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Title: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on December 12, 2017, 09:47:13 AM
I guess all the voters will have to vote for Tyler Herro now that Hauser is hurt.That will be interesting since he decommitted from Wisconsin.We will see how fixed this system is if does not win.Has to be killing the voters to have to vote for him.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 12, 2017, 09:53:29 AM
Is there any random talent going to a mid major school that lights up the numbers in a lower division?
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 12, 2017, 09:57:42 AM
Tyrese Halliburton of Oshkosh North might be a possibility.  North has got to be the new favorite in D-1.

Carlos Curtis perhaps.    And hey, Joey did have 35 in his one game played.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: GGGG on December 12, 2017, 10:01:44 AM
I guess all the voters will have to vote for Tyler Herro now that Hauser is hurt.That will be interesting since he decommitted from Wisconsin.We will see how fixed this system is if does not win.Has to be killing the voters to have to vote for him.


Case in point...  TJ Bray over Vander Blue.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Freeport Warrior on December 12, 2017, 10:18:29 AM
Carlos is a one-man show on a mediocre team. Scores a ton, but they will be .500.

Halliburton probably won't even be the leading scorer on his team. Quincy Anderson is a volume shooter for North. Their road to state title got easier with Joey out, but they still have Kimberly to contend with.

I would say Herro is a shoe-in with McCabe right there.

Herro is not on a good team, but he has the stats. Whitnall could get to state but I don't see any possible way they beat MKE Washington if they are healthy and eligible. MKE Washington is not coached well (had their senior center, who can't shoot well, shooting a 3 while they were up 4 with a minute left against Brook Central) but they have studs with length. I would say the guy actually playing the best ball of this season is Deontay Long from Washington. He got in some legal trouble this summer, but looks like it scared him straight -- down 20 lbs, all muscle and elevating).

Another dude playing at a very high level is Jay Gentry of Brown Deer. Undersized small forward/guard - thick but not tall.

McCabe is on a good team and he is playing well, so he has a good shot too. John Deiner is good but the definition of ball hog  (one game, Cedarburg had only two guys score in the entire game.)

Grant Basile of Pewaukee had 49 this year, but he -- just like most mentioned here -- will lose the PR battle to Herro and McCabe.

Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 12, 2017, 10:19:47 AM
I know he's like 20 at this point but I think Jordan McCabe is still eligible for the award. What about Diener over at Cedarburg?

Honestly, if Herro doesn't get it (assuming no injuries or huge drop in performance) than it was probably politics.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on December 12, 2017, 01:14:55 PM
Herro's team is terrible its all him
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Windyplayer on December 12, 2017, 01:22:10 PM
Herro's team is terrible its all him
Based on all accounts of him, I'm sure he hates that.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 12, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
I know he's like 20 at this point but I think Jordan McCabe is still eligible for the award. What about Diener over at Cedarburg?

Honestly, if Herro doesn't get it (assuming no injuries or huge drop in performance) than it was probably politics.

How does the greatest player in Wisconsin hoops history not win it on talent alone?
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 12, 2017, 02:27:36 PM
How does the greatest player in Wisconsin hoops history not win it on talent alone?

Did Wisconsin even have a Mr. Basketball award before this year? I have been told that Wisconsin High School basketball wasn't even on the map until Mr. Herro put it there.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: MUdmb on December 12, 2017, 03:40:24 PM
I guess all the voters will have to vote for Tyler Herro now that Hauser is hurt.That will be interesting since he decommitted from Wisconsin.We will see how fixed this system is if does not win.Has to be killing the voters to have to vote for him.

I can assure you there is very little if any bias as to where a player is going to college in the voting.  There is a heavy emphasis on production at the high school level, how much an individual elevates his team, and very little consideration for future potential on the college level.

And yes there are fans of Marquette basketball on the committee as well.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: barfolomew on December 13, 2017, 11:49:50 AM
Did Wisconsin even have a Mr. Basketball award before this year? I have been told that Wisconsin High School basketball wasn't even on the map until Mr. Herro put it there.

#TheCartographer
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: oldwarrior81 on December 13, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
Did Wisconsin even have a Mr. Basketball award before this year? I have been told that Wisconsin High School basketball wasn't even on the map until Mr. Herro put it there.

There has been a Mr. Wisconsin award in the past, but once Herro is unanimously selected as this year's recipient, the consensus is that the award will be retired, as none of the future candidates will be able to live up to the seer awesomeness of the 2018 winner.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2017, 12:33:15 PM
There has been a Mr. Wisconsin award in the past, but once Herro is unanimously selected as this year's recipient, the consensus is that the award will be retired, as none of the future candidates will be able to live up to the seer awesomeness of the 2018 winner.

I thought they were just going to name it after him.  The Herro Award.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 13, 2017, 12:35:10 PM
I thought they were just going to name it after him.  The Herro Award.
Clearly, this is it.  Like the Lombardi Trophy.

The important thing to remember though is that we should be hearing from Cheesy/Tommy on the state of Wisconsin's MR. Basketball in 3, 2, 1.......
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on March 16, 2018, 05:58:45 PM
McCabe is the winner.Just what I thought.I see the bias is still alive in the State of Wisconsin.Poor University of Wisconsin. Herro decommitted so we will show him.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Marcus92 on March 16, 2018, 06:18:43 PM
Did Wisconsin even have a Mr. Basketball award before this year? I have been told that Wisconsin High School basketball wasn't even on the map until Mr. Herro put it there.


The periodic Tyler Herro posts here have been hilarious. One of my favorite topics over the past year. Like a Chuck Norris joke:


"Tyler Herro isn't part of a rotation. The team rotates around him."
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: fjm on March 16, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
Literally.
Don't.
Care.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: MUDPT on March 16, 2018, 08:41:01 PM
Jalen Johnson is playing with Sun Prairie against Brookfield East right now.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: GGGG on March 16, 2018, 09:01:07 PM
McCabe is the winner.Just what I thought.I see the bias is still alive in the State of Wisconsin.Poor University of Wisconsin. Herro decommitted so we will show him.


Did Herro have a better season than McCabe?
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 16, 2018, 09:13:01 PM
Herro put up big numbers;   32.9 pts, 7.4 reb, 3.6 ast, 3.3 stls, .7 blk

McCabe was at 26.6 pts
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: MUDPT on March 16, 2018, 10:40:56 PM
Brookfield East beat Sun Prairie on a last second 2 in OT. Johnson is AWESOME.  Great handle, sees the floor well, has a nice fade away jumper.  SP's coaching left a lot to be desired...
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 16, 2018, 10:45:11 PM
Brookfield East beat Sun Prairie on a last second 2 in OT. Johnson is AWESOME.  Great handle, sees the floor well, has a nice fade away jumper.  SP's coaching left a lot to be desired...

Tbh he only looked okay to me.  Flat shot, he's bigger and stronger than everyone, but he deferred a lot.  I know they were doubling him, but I wasn't overly impressed.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Marquette2022 on March 17, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
Herro is a better all around player. McCabe has better handles. Both very talented players. IMO, Herro has the best shot at the NBA. Could be a sg or a bigger pg.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 17, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
#TheCartographer

Like Galileo before him where the powers labelled him a heretic for proclaiming the world is not flat, so to it in this case with the Grand Mapmaker of Wisconsin hoops.  Mayor McCheese must be stewing somewhere in despaired basement exile, ready to pounce again and proclaim The Cartographer was again wronged.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2018, 03:48:42 PM
Like Galileo before him where the powers labelled him a heretic for proclaiming the world is not flat, so to it in this case with the Grand Mapmaker of Wisconsin hoops.  Mayor McCheese must be stewing somewhere in despaired basement exile, ready to pounce again and proclaim The Cartographer was again wronged.
The world is not flat?? Many would beg to differ !!
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2018, 04:38:58 PM
Like Galileo before him where the powers labelled him a heretic for proclaiming the world is not flat, so to it in this case with the Grand Mapmaker of Wisconsin hoops.  Mayor McCheese must be stewing somewhere in despaired basement exile, ready to pounce again and proclaim The Cartographer was again wronged.

Ahh, but the Mayor's efforts to glorify the Cartographer shall be thwarted by the Galloping Ghost of Kaukauna:

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/142
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Goose on March 17, 2018, 04:42:49 PM
Jalen Johnson is the real deal. Very impressed with unselfish play and looks like he has high ball IQ.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2018, 04:49:54 PM
Jalen Johnson is the real deal. Very impressed with unselfish play and looks like he has high ball IQ.

Curious for your thoughts on Baldwin if you watched him as well.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 17, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
The world is not flat?? Many would beg to differ !!

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Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2018, 05:33:34 PM
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I heard somewhere that the flat earth just flips over at night...
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Goose on March 17, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
Brew

I like Baldwin a lot, but like Foster and Johnson more. Johnson has become my guy.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2018, 06:59:35 PM
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Sorry have to trust Kyrie on this one
https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/12/16883156/kyrie-irvings-flat-earth-theory-instagram-research
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 17, 2018, 07:41:44 PM
So McCabe over Herro.  How does that happen to the greatest basketball player to EVER put on a uniform and play hoops in Wisconsin?
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on March 17, 2018, 08:08:58 PM
Watched McCabe tonight... great player but his act is nauseating
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on March 17, 2018, 08:29:17 PM
McCabe was fantastic tonight. Just thrilled the felon on Milw Wash didn’t win. He is quite the talent, but should not still be in school, much less on the basketball team.

https://www.google.com/amp/fox6now.com/2018/03/16/washington-hs-basketball-star-plays-at-state-after-pleading-guilty-to-armed-robbery/amp/
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Goose on March 17, 2018, 08:51:31 PM
McCabe is going to be a very good college basketball player. Herro might be a very, very, very good one.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: GrimmReaper33 on March 17, 2018, 09:30:49 PM
McCabe was fantastic tonight. Just thrilled the felon on Milw Wash didn’t win. He is quite the talent, but should not still be in school, much less on the basketball team.

https://www.google.com/amp/fox6now.com/2018/03/16/washington-hs-basketball-star-plays-at-state-after-pleading-guilty-to-armed-robbery/amp/

Don't get me wrong, McCabe is an extremely talented offensive player and he won the game for Kaukauna down the stretch.  However, I would not call his game tonight fantastic.

He scored 35 points on 33 shots and was 7-21 from three.  Kid loves to chuck, that's for sure.  Also doesn't seem to care about playing D.

I personally will be shocked if he lasts at West Virginia.  Who is he going to guard when he gets in the Big 12??   Wish him well though, maybe he will prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on March 17, 2018, 09:45:32 PM
Yeah, I gotcha. I would say fantastic 3 final minutes when he was needed to win back to back state title games for his team.
As far as college, WVU plays full court pressure, in your face D. McCabe sometimes doesn’t even get back to the defensive side of the half court. I am not sure how that marriage is going to work.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 17, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
Yeah, I gotcha. I would say fantastic 3 final minutes when he was needed to win back to back state title games for his team.
As far as college, WVU plays full court pressure, in your face D. McCabe sometimes doesn’t even get back to the defensive side of the half court. I am not sure how that marriage is going to work.
Actually it was 2 titles in 3 years. La Crosse Central defeated Cedarburg last year.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 17, 2018, 11:17:01 PM
So McCabe over Herro.  How does that happen to the greatest basketball player to EVER put on a uniform and play hoops in Wisconsin?

#fakenews
As Cheesy/Tommy pointed out, basketball didn't even exist prior to Herro, so obviously no one previously put on a uniform in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Herman Cain on March 17, 2018, 11:32:45 PM
McCabe was fantastic tonight. Just thrilled the felon on Milw Wash didn’t win. He is quite the talent, but should not still be in school, much less on the basketball team.

https://www.google.com/amp/fox6now.com/2018/03/16/washington-hs-basketball-star-plays-at-state-after-pleading-guilty-to-armed-robbery/amp/
Will be interesting to see where the felon ends up after his prison term.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: dgies9156 on March 18, 2018, 06:37:37 AM
As far as college, WVU plays full court pressure, in your face D. McCabe sometimes doesn’t even get back to the defensive side of the half court. I am not sure how that marriage is going to work.

Hmmm, he and the Huggie Bear will get along just fine then!!!!!
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Eye on March 18, 2018, 10:44:01 AM
It's early, but is MU showing any interest in Foster? Very impressed with him.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on March 18, 2018, 10:45:12 AM
That kid is a beast.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Eye on March 18, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
Already verballed to Arizona State according to Verbal Commits dot com.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 18, 2018, 10:53:49 AM
Already verballed to Arizona State according to Verbal Commits dot com.

This. And he's heading to Hillcrest Prep in Arizona next year.

But the track record of freshman verbals becoming signed NLI ain't great.  A lot can happen over the next few years.
Title: Re: Mr.Basketball in Wisconsin
Post by: Eye on March 18, 2018, 11:01:42 AM
Based on what saw the last two days, wouldn't be surprised one bit if he ends up at a top 10 program. Who'll be top 10 programs 3 years from now with all the FBI stuff in tow could be a lot different than what it is now. Hopefully MU turns the corner and is back at or close to the level in a few years. And the one-and-done rule could be gone three years from now. A 6-9, 14-year-old freshman that looks smooth shooting 3-pointers ought to be a big prospect when he's senior.