Sacar play is exactly what this team needs. What a tremendous effort at all phases of the game. He simply will get better offensively as he attacks the rim.
3 more years! WOW!!!
Quote from: Big tuna on December 09, 2017, 04:14:36 PM
Sacar play is exactly what this team needs. What a tremendous effort at all phases of the game. He simply will get better offensively as he attacks the rim.
3 more years! WOW!!!
Amen
He will continue to keep defenses off-balance because they will never know where he is.
Hes a team player and fits seamlessly with this group, I believe he will only get smarter at picking
his spots
Sacar will never be a "star" or big-time scorer. But he is a very valuable player on this team.
I was not impressed as a freshman and didn't think he'd have much impact on the team in his career. But the year off really helped his game. The athleticism is there. The game awareness is there.
He will continue to see a lot of floor time and be a big contributor over the next couple years.
I thought Wojo couldn't develop players.
Quote from: barfolomew on December 09, 2017, 04:35:59 PM
He will continue to keep defenses off-balance because they will never know where he is.
I like this a lot.
I shudder to think what this team's defense would be like without Sacar. He is so critical to our 'D'.
30+ solid minutes again. We're getting 3 very solid years from Sacar.
Sacar is a great athlete who plays aggressively. He's a great fit on this team.
His defense reminds me of Jimmy...if Jimmy were ever allowed to play his natural position.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 09, 2017, 04:39:25 PM
I thought Wojo couldn't develop players.
I'm looking forward to Sacar's senior season when some Scoopers will turn on Sacar since he'll still be a hustle player, averaging 8 ppg and shooting a poor percentage from 3 ;)
Sacar will probably never be the SOTG here on scoop.
NVM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 12, 2017, 11:37:59 AM
Sacar will probably never be the SOTG here on scoop.
That's cause we can never find him.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on December 12, 2017, 08:24:11 AM
I'm looking forward to Sacar's senior season when some Scoopers will turn on Sacar since he'll still be a hustle player, averaging 8 ppg and shooting a poor percentage from 3 ;)
Yep, that is the most likely scenario. On a team of shooters at the 1,2,4 positions, he gives a solid defense/rebounding presence with average finishing ability at the rim and a below average shot. I'd like to think he's still going to noticeably improve his shot and finishing ability, which will keep him in the rotation the next couple years. I can totally see him out of the rotation next year though if he doesn't make another step forward.
I feel bad for Sacar. He's got a great drive to the hole all the time and just seems to be incredibly unlucky in the rim rolls.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on December 12, 2017, 01:56:39 PM
I feel bad for Sacar. He's got a great drive to the hole all the time and just seems to be incredibly unlucky in the rim rolls.
He simply puts the ball up too hard. Needs to put a little more air under his shot like Markus and Rowsey do when they get in the lane.
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 12, 2017, 02:07:52 PM
He simply puts the ball up too hard. Needs to put a little more air under his shot like Markus and Rowsey do when they get in the lane.
Yup. That's a difficult skill to learn sometimes. Go up strong, but shoot it/lay it in softly.
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 12, 2017, 02:16:36 PM
Yup. That's a difficult skill to learn sometimes. Go up strong, but shoot it/lay it in softly.
Just look at freshman Vander compared to junior Vander.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 12, 2017, 11:37:59 AM
Sacar will probably never be the SOTG here on scoop.
I'm not taking that Bet, he has plenty of time to work and Display other Skills.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on December 12, 2017, 01:56:39 PM
I feel bad for Sacar. He's got a great drive to the hole all the time and just seems to be incredibly unlucky in the rim rolls.
What a bizarre thing to feel bad about...yet, I completely understand.
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 12, 2017, 02:07:52 PM
He simply puts the ball up too hard. Needs to put a little more air under his shot like Markus and Rowsey do when they get in the lane.
Easier said than done! That shot takes incredible skill. It will take a lot of practice.
On drives, it's usually a defender that puts the air under Rowsey's shots.
Early, but Sacar's 2FG% is 51.3% and his FT Rate is 54.9
Cheetham this year was 45.8% witha FTR of 18.9
Vander Sophmore year was 43.6%|49.6
Vander Junior year was 52.8% | 31.5
In the slasher role, Sacar getting it done. Scoring for twos and drawing fouls at the rim. Needs to improve his treys and I dare say, FTs.
All Sacar needs to do is be a potential threat from beyond the arc and continue to slash. With Froling coming in, Sacar may now be the 5th option for scoring. But when he slashes and we can spread the D out with 4 3-point shooters out on the floor, the court clears up a bit.
Interestingly, one of Sacar's statistical comps on kenpom is Nick Williams, an MU signee that bailed for Indiana when Crean left then finished up his career at Ole Miss. Will we see comps of all those that bailed during that time come back through the program? Is Theo the Mbakwe we never had? Will Rocket Watts be the next Tyshawn Taylor?
From February 2015...
https://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/ (https://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/)
PS - Sacar's HS coach is now an asst coach at Drake.
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 13, 2017, 07:06:15 PM
From February 2015...
https://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/ (https://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/)
PS - Sacar's HS coach is now an asst coach at Drake.
So Anim to Duke is a done deal when Wojo goes there after next year
Quote from: zcg2013 on December 13, 2017, 10:51:34 AM
All Sacar needs to do is be a potential threat from beyond the arc and continue to slash. With Froling coming in, Sacar may now be the 5th option for scoring. But when he slashes and we can spread the D out with 4 3-point shooters out on the floor, the court clears up a bit.
Be nice if he could do a little drive-and-dish occasionally, a la JJJ.
JJJ didn't do a ton of it, as he mostly set himself up, but we miss the dishin' he did.
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 13, 2017, 07:06:15 PM
From February 2015...
https://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/ (https://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/)
PS - Sacar's HS coach is now an asst coach at Drake.
Is this an insinuation he's gonna jump for the Valley before it's all said and done?
Where is his cousin Sacre?
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 14, 2017, 12:53:46 PM
Where is his cousin Sacre?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sacrero01.html
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on December 14, 2017, 01:20:26 PM
You mean Sacre Ai-na, playa.
Sacre Bleu (or is it "Blue?"), monsieur! I think that cousin has no eligibility remaining.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 14, 2017, 01:05:53 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sacrero01.html
Hope we don't get in trouble.......
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 13, 2017, 10:33:47 AM
Early, but Sacar's 2FG% is 51.3% and his FT Rate is 54.9
Cheetham this year was 45.8% witha FTR of 18.9
Vander Sophmore year was 43.6%|49.6
Vander Junior year was 52.8% | 31.5
In the slasher role, Sacar getting it done. Scoring for twos and drawing fouls at the rim. Needs to improve his treys and I dare say, FTs.
Please explain. Is that the percentage of times he gets fouled on way to hoop or his actual FT percentage at the charity stripe? Seems like the former. And how does that rank relative to other slashers? Thanks.
Quote from: jsglow on December 15, 2017, 08:13:53 AM
Please explain. Is that the percentage of times he gets fouled on way to hoop or his actual FT percentage at the charity stripe? Seems like the former. And how does that rank relative to other slashers? Thanks.
Free throw rate is the ratio of free throw attempts to field goal attempts. You do have to look at the numbers a little more thoroughly for individual players, because he may just not shoot a lot.
I keep expecting to open this thread and find an app to play Sacar Anim clips or something similar.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 15, 2017, 08:42:50 AM
Free throw rate is the ratio of free throw attempts to field goal attempts. You do have to look at the numbers a little more thoroughly for individual players, because he may just not shoot a lot.
And it's early in the season so sample size is small. As a benchmark, the average NCAA team average is 34.4. I will also note, Sacar's shooting percent at the rim is 56.3% (18-32).
In a related note, this Harvard research paper says that "free throws made per possession" is a better metric than free throw rate, with the low shots attempted issue being one of the problems with free throw rate as the predictor.
I will just drop this paper's blog link here:
https://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/re-examining-the-four-factors-the-case-for-free-throws-made-per-100-possessions/
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 15, 2017, 09:02:18 AM
In a related note, this Harvard research paper says that "free throws made per possession" is a better metric than free throw rate
Uh-oh. Harvard is indicating that FTs matta.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 15, 2017, 09:02:18 AM
And it's early in the season so sample size is small. As a benchmark, the average NCAA team average is 34.4. I will also note, Sacar's shooting percent at the rim is 56.3% (18-32).
In a related note, this Harvard research paper says that "free throws made per possession" is a better metric than free throw rate, with the low shots attempted issue being one of the problems with free throw rate as the predictor.
I will just drop this paper's blog link here:
https://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/re-examining-the-four-factors-the-case-for-free-throws-made-per-100-possessions/
Thank you for this article.
I think the point is that taking a bunch of free throws, even if you miss more than usual, is better than making a bunch of them but not taking very many.
Of course taking a bunch AND making a bunch is preferable.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 15, 2017, 11:44:45 AM
Thank you for this article.
I think the point is that taking a bunch of free throws, even if you miss more than usual, is better than making a bunch of them but not taking very many.
Of course taking a bunch AND making a bunch is preferable.
LOL.....no it's not! SMH....
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on December 15, 2017, 12:36:58 PM
LOL.....no it's not! SMH....
FTR is more important than FT%
Now this thread is going places!
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 15, 2017, 12:56:50 PM
FTR is more important than FT%
True.
Even if you're shooting 60% from the line (which only 1 of 351 teams were worse than last year), that's an elite offense. Team FT% no matta to winning bball games. FTrate can, but it's by far the least important of the four factors.
#FTsNoMatta
Getting to the line is good, even if you're shooting "a bad percentage"
If they are going to foul you .....making them is better then missing them.....especially if trying to hold a lead in a close game.
Everything matters.... some things just matter more.
Steele article on Sacar. Per Wojo he is best defender.
https://twitter.com/bensteelemjs/status/942509932523372544
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 17, 2017, 05:08:31 PM
Steele article on Sacar. Per Wojo he is best defender.
Kind of like being the tallest midget!
(No insult intended to Markus and Rowsey!!)
Quote from: MU82 on December 14, 2017, 09:06:25 AM
Be nice if he could do a little drive-and-dish occasionally, a la JJJ.
JJJ didn't do a ton of it, as he mostly set himself up, but we miss the dishin' he did.
Any post that mentions JJJ twice is a good post....
JJJ was an excellent passer and in fact led the team in total assists last year.