I'm watching them destroy Syracuse in the first half. Up 10 right now at half time. That will be a tough game.
Sack up, Chicos. Road games are tough, but you are penciling in a loss to a bad Cincy team just because the Cuse is struggling with them? I normally agree with you on most things, but your post is bed-wetting.
They also beat Louisville in Louisville. I realize Slick Rick's team has had there share of problems but Cinci appears to be turning it on.
That beating said Cinci is now up 9 with 13:45 to go.
Quote from: ozmetal71 on January 09, 2008, 08:15:09 PM
Sack up, Chicos. Road games are tough, but you are penciling in a loss to a bad Cincy team just because the Cuse is struggling with them? I normally agree with you on most things, but your post is bed-wetting.
I think they are playing a lot better of late. They played with Xavier the entire game. Beat Louisville. Only lost by 10 to Memphis.
I hope you're right
If MU loses @ Cincy, it will be one of the worst losses in the TC era and certainly one of the biggest upsets in all of college BB this season. It should be as close to a layup on the road of any road game they play this year.
Where you at the Western Michigan NIT Game couple of years back?; that was awful, quite possibly one of the worst feelings for MU in a long long time
Quote from: muguru on January 09, 2008, 08:25:41 PM
If MU loses @ Cincy, it will be one of the worst losses in the TC era and certainly one of the biggest upsets in all of college BB this season. It should be as close to a layup on the road of any road game they play this year.
You obviously are not watching this game. Cincy looks pretty damn good.
It may end up being a loss. But I don't think you can judge anything off of a game versus Syracuse. They've lost 3 players to season or possibly career ending injuries(Devendorf, Rautins and Brennan-McBride) as well as losing one player(Josh Wright) because he quit the team. They only have 3 scholarship guards at the moment and thats if you count Paul Harris as a guard instead of his natural position of forward. They had to lift the redshirt on Sean Williams just to have enough players. They may have some talented guys, but they have almost no depth, no leadership, and quite honestly are not a good team without all those guys.
I watched them against Xavier and thought they had some talent, young but talented. In the Louisville game they didn't look very good but won nonetheless.
This game just looks like a tough game to me. Saturday game, it will be a lot tougher then some here are making it.
Cinci up 12 with 5 to go.
no worries.. rocky and I will be at this game. our combined mojo won't let us lose. ;D
Oh boy. Cinci up 7 with 2:34 to go.
Quote from: spiral97 on January 09, 2008, 08:47:05 PM
no worries.. rocky and I will be at this game. our combined mojo won't let us lose. ;D
Remind me again how that combined mojo worked out last year for the 'ville game? :-X
donte greene is the real deal for the cuse!
Cinci wins it 74-66.
Cincinnati wins 74-66
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on January 09, 2008, 08:57:53 PM
Quote from: spiral97 on January 09, 2008, 08:47:05 PM
no worries.. rocky and I will be at this game. our combined mojo won't let us lose. ;D
Remind me again how that combined mojo worked out last year for the 'ville game? :-X
way to kick me in the balls man..
all over again..
coincidentally, we'll be at the home l-ville game too :D
It's funny to compare the comments on the board about Cincinnati versus West Virginia over the past few days.
Can any explain why Cincinnati seems to be getting far more respect than West Virginia?
I sense a general attitude that we should have been able to beat a lowly team like WVU quite handily. But Cincy, well, THAT game is going to be tough.
Not sure.
I picked us to lose to WVU and I think the game at Cincy looks very tough as well. In general, I'd be thrilled with any road conference wins regardless of opponent. Equally, I will be disappointed with any home conference loss regardless of opponent.
Quote from: Marquette84 on January 09, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
I sense a general attitude that we should have been able to beat a lowly team like WVU quite handily. But Cincy, well, THAT game is going to be tough.
personally never considered WVU lowly.. their 3 point shot has left me sleepless quite a few nights over the past few years..
but my disdain for cinci goes all the way back to the days of the midwestern conference...
Quote from: muguru on January 09, 2008, 08:25:41 PM
If MU loses @ Cincy, it will be one of the worst losses in the TC era and certainly one of the biggest upsets in all of college BB this season. It should be as close to a layup on the road of any road game they play this year.
Yeah, do you forget that we lost to Cinci at HOME just two years ago???? Not sure why losing away to them would be worse than losing at home during the year we beat the NUMBER TWO team in our first ever BEast game. We've gone 10-6 the last two years in conf play and that was good enough for first round byes, so obviously games will be lost!! I'm much more worried about home & home vs. ND & L'ville than Cinci. Every game is gonna be tough, can't go all chicken little. I mean, Pitt beat Duke & then lost to Dayton (yeah i know they lost cook & fields), so what does that mean?? Don't sweat the small stuff, one game at a time :)
I hope everyone also saw how Cincinnati almost choked out a 15 point lead with under 5 minutes to go.
Pomeroy gives Cincinnati a 6% chance of beating us (they were given a 19% chance of upending Syracuse tonight, so take that for what it's worth), and another encouraging report comes from a different reading of the numbers, which may have already been posted.
• Marquette (18th/22nd/4th)
The Golden Eagles also are a shocking eighth in offensive rebounding. If that number, along with contributions of Ousmane Barro and Co. come anything close to holding, this team will be deep into the NCAAs.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?id=3178261 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?id=3178261)
if we lose at cincy this year, how will that be on of TC's worst losses?
let us also remember that Cincy's wins have been against injured teams. L'ville has had just about everyone out at one point or another this year and all those who were back were not at full strength. Also, 'Cuse is w/o Devendorf. While I hate the guy, he is a valuable member of the Syracuse team. If we are healthy, I see it as a tough game but winnable. It's games like that which are going to separate us from the rest of the conference, if we are going to be at the top. Personally, I'd rather see Cincy be decent than absolutely suck. Adds more to the rivalry.
No way would a loss at Cincy be one of TC's worst. If the game were played tomorrow we'd be around a 1--to-2-point favorite. That's hardly an upset. Besides, while I love TC, we've had some bad losses in his tenure. We will have to play well to win at Cincy.
Cincy is better than I thought they would be this year, but we should be able to win that game as long as we don't shoot 33% like we did in WV
Cincy just beat #17 Villanova tonight
You just can't really take a night off in the BEast
I "almost" expect to lose every road game in the BE, or at least go into each game with the expectation of a loss. There isn't a single cup cake anywhere.
That said, the opposite is true. I go into every home game expecting us to win.
MU shoots decent from outside they win, because of their outstanding D. Trouble is, we can never know.
All other analysis is spending too much time on the little, tangential stuff.
i'll be happy winning 1 of these next 2...
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 12, 2008, 08:43:09 PM
Cincy just beat #17 Villanova tonight
The rankings mean nothing. Nova was exposed at DePaul as a team that was primarily untested through the pre-conference and a team that if you shut down Reynolds the snake dies quickly.
When Cincinnati beats Notre Dame, Georgetown, Pittsburgh at home then I'll be a little more worried about Marquette's visit.
Quote from: jaygall31 on January 12, 2008, 11:58:12 PM
i'll be happy winning 1 of these next 2...
I'd be thrilled
Quote from: muguru on January 09, 2008, 08:25:41 PM
If MU loses @ Cincy, it will be one of the worst losses in the TC era and certainly one of the biggest upsets in all of college BB this season. It should be as close to a layup on the road of any road game they play this year.
Dude apparently you don't remember our final four team losing at East Carolina, D-Wade and all.
P.S. When you use the prases best, worst, always, or never in regards to sports; I am going to go ahead and disregard your opinion and encourage others to do so as well.
Quote from: MUSF on January 13, 2008, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: muguru on January 09, 2008, 08:25:41 PM
If MU loses @ Cincy, it will be one of the worst losses in the TC era and certainly one of the biggest upsets in all of college BB this season. It should be as close to a layup on the road of any road game they play this year.
Dude apparently you don't remember our final four team losing at East Carolina, D-Wade and all.
P.S. When you use the prases best, worst, always, or never in regards to sports; I am going to go ahead and disregard your opinion and encourage others to do so as well.
first of all best, worst, always and never aren't phrases they are words. 2nd of all, I don't agree with muguru but in his defence he said 'one of the worst' not 'the worst'
One of the worst losses?
A road conference game? :o
How do you think Huggins felt when MU always seemed to beat Cincy at at the Bradley Center no matter how high Cincy was ranked (was it 3 out of 4 times?)
Road-conference upsets are upsets (my Yogi Berra), but not all that surprising. Happens all of the time to good teams.
Great teams avoid are the teams that can consistently win on the road and put forth a great effort every single night.
We'll be favored, but to call it one the worst losses in the Crean era is ridiculous. It's a road conference game against a rival.
Right now in BE play, teams are a combined 22-7 at home. Ten of 16 teams are yet to win a road game, including Marquette.
Coach Crean has already won 2 of the 3 'MUSTS' this year, all 3 were losses last year: UW, ND, and the first tournament game. Having said that, I can accept a stubbed toe loss (WV) or two- in conference, on the road.
Quote from: augoman on January 14, 2008, 08:09:46 PM
Coach Crean has already won 2 of the 3 'MUSTS' this year, all 3 were losses last year: UW, ND, and the first tournament game. Having said that, I can accept a stubbed toe loss (WV) or two- in conference, on the road.
Two losses in conference? That's it? Wow, we have the Big East pretty much wrapped up if that happened.
Cincy wins again, now against top 20 Pitt at the Shoe.
Tonight they beat WVU by more than 20 on the road.....I'll repeat what I said weeks ago.....
Don't worry, Chicos, Rocky and Spiral are going to the game so they'll make sure the boys are in good shape before they take the court :) :) :)
BTW, I think we win by 8+. We need it, we know it, we'll do it.
I think MU wins in a very close game. I say we win by around 10 only because of Ft's a the end. I think the game will really be closer than that final score though. 73-63 Final MU wins.... just my guess though (so in other words it means nothing)
You guys have a lot more confidence then I do....I think Cincy is playing lights out. They've already beaten Louisville on the road where we got smoked. They beat WVU tonight where we got smoked. They beat Pitt. They beat Syracuse. They lost to UCONN by one point in a game they totally choked.
I know we can win, but we haven't played well in awhile, I just don't see it. I want to see it, we definitely need it, but I don't see it.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 31, 2008, 12:36:13 AM
You guys have a lot more confidence then I do....I think Cincy is playing lights out. They've already beaten Louisville on the road where we got smoked. They beat WVU tonight where we got smoked. They beat Pitt. They beat Syracuse. They lost to UCONN by one point in a game they totally choked.
I know we can win, but we haven't played well in awhile, I just don't see it. I want to see it, we definitely need it, but I don't see it.
Agreed,
If we don't shoot like we did against OK State or Notre dame we could be part of another blowout. I agree with those on this board who say its confidence as I just don't think the team is playing with much of it right now...Hope that changes come Saturday! GO MU!
They have been nothing if not inconsistent, and I still say we are catching UC at a good time. I expect MU to be very ready to play in this one, and I think we walk away with the win.
I know one poster who will jump all over me for saying this, but .. MU can play down to the level of competition. SHU and USF are examples of teams, that on paper, were easy W's that turned into near losses.
At one point, Cincy looked like a tasty W on the road. Not so much any more, and MU will know they need to "play with their hair on fire".
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 31, 2008, 07:55:07 AM
I know one poster who will jump all over me for saying this, but .. MU can play down to the level of competition. SHU and USF are examples of teams, that on paper, were easy W's that turned into near losses.
At one point, Cincy looked like a tasty W on the road. Not so much any more, and MU will know they need to "play with their hair on fire".
If MU plays down to the competition don't they also play up to the competition? If that's the case, then we can expect their best performance out of the last 4 or 5 games.
"don't they also play up.." you'd think so, wouldn't ya? .. The games at UL, WVU, and UConn would suggest otherwise.
Reminders of ND and @UW in 3...2...1...
But we weren't at UL, WVU, or UConn :D
now I'm not guaranteeing a win @ cinci or anything so Plaxico Burress-like (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/01/30/2008-01-30_tom_coughlin_john_mara_bristle_over_plax.html) but we will be channeling all of our positive energy into funneling our shots THROUGH the hoop. Been practicing my OOOOHHMMMMMMMMMMMM's for weeks.
Quote from: SoCalEagle on January 30, 2008, 11:30:28 PM
Don't worry, Chicos, Rocky and Spiral are going to the game so they'll make sure the boys are in good shape before they take the court :) :) :)
BTW, I think we win by 8+. We need it, we know it, we'll do it.
I do believe Rocky and Spiral will be drinking the champaign coolies on Saturday, not Coach Cronin.
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Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 31, 2008, 09:17:06 AM
"don't they also play up.." you'd think so, wouldn't ya? .. The games at UL, WVU, and UConn would suggest otherwise.
Reminders of ND and @UW in 3...2...1...
We could rephrase it to they play up to the "moment". They sucked versus Chaminade and needed a tight performance against OK State and ending up smoking them. Certainly Wisconsin and Notre Dame were "moments". I think we could add Providence to that -- first Big East game, at home, would they be rusty from the bunnies.
Let's see what happens. This is certainly a "moment" that needs to be seized upon. Just imagine if they win in Cincinnati and then turn around and beat Lousiville? In 5 days people will be giddy again.
Indeed, this team does have road wins within them. Last year was a great example, huge road wins that no one expected. And this is that same team, minus 3 bit players.
We are overdue for a great team game - firing on all cylinders - I saw we win in Cinncy!
Quote from: SoCalEagle on January 30, 2008, 11:30:28 PM
Don't worry, Chicos, Rocky and Spiral are going to the game so they'll make sure the boys are in good shape before they take the court :) :) :)
BTW, I think we win by 8+. We need it, we know it, we'll do it.
Well, it looks like Rocky and Spiral did a good job getting the boys to play good ball. :)
I predicted a big win at Cincy. Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day. :)
Great win on the road by the good guys. Hope this streak we're on continues.
Hey Chicos, I know you started this thread, and believe me I had the same sentiment when you did. But isn't it great being wrong sometime? We don't mind eating crow when it's a "W" for the good guys right?
I never was really worried about Cincy. They're just not a bad matchup for us like the Louisville's and UCONN's of the world. When you got to play more talented teams on the road it's hard to beat them as we saw at UCONN and Ville'. That's not the case with Cincy when comparing their personal with our's. We're quite a bit more talented. Today was a big win though because Cincy has beaten their share of good BE teams this year. So we didn't beat a cupcake on the road by any means.