What are your expectations for this year vs next year?
My personal expectations this year are for us to be a bubble team and may be squeak in the tourney.
Next year though, obviously getting grimes would change this, but with the class currently I would expect to make the sweet sixteen.
What about you guys?
Quote from: Marquette4life on October 04, 2017, 12:23:32 PM
What are your expectations for this year vs next year?
My personal expectations this year are for us to be a bubble team and may be squeak in the tourney.
Next year though, obviously getting grimes would change this, but with the class currently I would expect to make the sweet sixteen.
What about you guys?
I basically agree with you.
About the same for this season. I think we will finish as a ranked team next year, and hope that translates to tourney success. A meaningful guess at how far we'd go in the 2019 NCAA tournament at this point is beyond my capabilities.
I believe us better this year then last. I think what we lost is far outweighed by what we have gained.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on October 04, 2017, 01:04:03 PM
I believe us better this year then last. I think what we lost is far outweighed by what we have gained.
I agree. I think we have more solid contributors. I'm thinking this team will reflect the Sum is Greater than all its Parts.
I think we'll be more comfortable than most are thinking. 5-7 seed. Top half of the league and 20 wins.
We return three of our four most offensively efficient players and the other was Luke, who was relatively ineffective down the stretch. I feel in terms of net value, Luke and JJ are very replaceable. We'll need a sparkplug to replace Reinhardt, but there are plenty of candidates.
Defensively, I'm hoping the increased depth, improved size, and extra diligence will pay off. I don't expect great, but with our returning offensive pieces, top-100 should be enough to be comfortable.
Go out, compete, steal some games, give some away. Bubble team, but like the Brewers this year, just a bunch of kids having fun and growing together.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 04, 2017, 05:43:53 PM
I think we'll be more comfortable than most are thinking. 5-7 seed. Top half of the league and 20 wins.
We return three of our four most offensively efficient players and the other was Luke, who was relatively ineffective down the stretch. I feel in terms of net value, Luke and JJ are very replaceable. We'll need a sparkplug to replace Reinhardt, but there are plenty of candidates.
Defensively, I'm hoping the increased depth, improved size, and extra diligence will pay off. I don't expect great, but with our returning offensive pieces, top-100 should be enough to be comfortable.
Lot depends on defense. We do well on the defensive side of the ball, we win 22 games and maybe are the 5-7 seed noted above.
We're gonna score and we're much more powerful inside than last year.
NCAA -- decent chance we go into the second week
You lost 3 seniors with experience, added 6 players with no experience, they better grow up fast if you think they will be better. Howard shot 55% from 3's, not sure
that will ever happen again. MU put 5 players on the court last year that could score, do not see that this year. Better defensively yes, but I see short on the O end.
Rebounding better be better as they are not going to hit as many threes. Got to score in the paint. I love Joey and Morrow in the paint the following year, bigger
and stronger. This year I am not even sure who the 3 is right now, and Sam is slightly overmatched on the D end as the 4.
I expect that we struggle early, Scoop will melt down, but that we will do well in BE season and end up about where we were last year when all is said and done.
2018-19? Watch out...
Make progress this year. Better in non-league play. Better in league play. Win a tourney game. I'd think that translates to low to mid-20s in terms of wins.
Quote from: DCHoopster on October 04, 2017, 11:36:33 PM
You lost 3 seniors with experience, added 6 players with no experience, they better grow up fast if you think they will be better. Howard shot 55% from 3's, not sure
that will ever happen again. MU put 5 players on the court last year that could score, do not see that this year. Better defensively yes, but I see short on the O end.
Rebounding better be better as they are not going to hit as many threes. Got to score in the paint. I love Joey and Morrow in the paint the following year, bigger
and stronger. This year I am not even sure who the 3 is right now, and Sam is slightly overmatched on the D end as the 4.
Based on this, What is prediction for this year? Or are you sitting on the Fence.
Honestly expectations are hard for this team. Really it comes down to if the freshmen can step up.
Can Theo be a defensive presence at this level, even for a 10-12 minutes? Can Elliott or Cain provide scoring off the bench?
For Marquette to make a leap, at least two of them have to be solid contributors. Or one of them has to be a stud and exceed what Sam did last year. And until the games tip-off, that is hard to predict.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on October 04, 2017, 01:04:03 PM
I believe us better this year then last. I think what we lost is far outweighed by what we have gained.
I believe this, but that does not mean we make the NCAA tournament. Things fell in place for us last year.
A key win over Villanova and key injuries to Creighton and Xavier cannot be counted on to happen again.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on October 05, 2017, 08:40:47 AM
Honestly expectations are hard for this team. Really it comes down to if the freshmen can step up.
Can Theo be a defensive presence at this level, even for a 10-12 minutes? Can Elliott or Cain provide scoring off the bench?
For Marquette to make a leap, at least two of them have to be solid contributors. Or one of them has to be a stud and exceed what Sam did last year. And until the games tip-off, that is hard to predict.
Honestly, nothing wrong with being on the Fence.
Quote from: Loose "Q" Cannon on October 05, 2017, 08:35:11 AM
Based on this, What is prediction for this year? Or are you sitting on the Fence.
I am more on the wait and see attitude. Hoping for the best, will not be discouraged if they fall short of the NCAA. Never seen any of the new recruits in person,
and how they have grown from a high school senior to a college freshman. If Cheatham can give them anything? Then you add Harry in December, who is he?
The scrimmage tomorrow will give us all more incite on the the team. Another big point to watch, can Howard play some D and stop reaching and fouling. He has to
play more than 22 minutes that he did last year, need 30 from him or more.
Quote from: DCHoopster on October 05, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
The scrimmage tomorrow will give us all more incite on the the team.
Uh oh.
Quote from: DCHoopster on October 05, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
I am more on the wait and see attitude. Hoping for the best, will not be discouraged if they fall short of the NCAA. Never seen any of the new recruits in person,
and how they have grown from a high school senior to a college freshman. If Cheatham can give them anything? Then you add Harry in December, who is he?
The scrimmage tomorrow will give us all more incite on the the team. Another big point to watch, can Howard play some D and stop reaching and fouling. He has to
play more than 22 minutes that he did last year, need 30 from him or more.
Thanks for the response.
Quote from: Loose "Q" Cannon on October 05, 2017, 09:02:25 AM
Thanks for the response.
insight, ok, spelled it wrong, big deal to you I guess.
Given the high quality of our returnees, I think our floor is 7th in the Big East and either the NIT/last 4 in NCAA. Ceiling is trickier - maybe 3rd in the conference and the Sweet 16.
Quote from: DCHoopster on October 05, 2017, 09:06:45 AM
insight, ok, spelled it wrong, big deal to you I guess.
No No that was not me, I'm more interested in content, not so much about Form.
Good, so am I. I am not writing a paper to get graded on or my spelling, if somebody wants to correct me that is great though. Never got an A in English, maybe A
in business courses.
More insight, it is great to see all the potential recruits coming to Madness. To me, Wojo and staff are tireless workers. Nice to have a recruiting budget that does
not stop. Future looks very bright with the addition of the new Arena coming, I expect big crowds the first year with a very good team for sure! Next year with or
without Grimes, they should win a couple games in the NCAA tournament.
I am looking for us to finish 3rd in the Big East. We will get to the second weekend in the tournament. Our offense is going to be very strong and we can start a veteran lineup. The defense will be improved. We have plenty of fouls to give and have some young pogo sticks who are not under pressure to contribute immediately. I believe Sacar has the most of the year off and will be a plus.
I have us about the same this year as last. Mid Tier BE team. Can beat anyone when hot from 3, but will struggle to win when not. Somewhere between 8-11 seed. I have us in the tourney.
Next year we could be super good, but I'll enjoy this one first.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 05, 2017, 09:29:12 AM
Next year we could be super good, but I'll enjoy this one first.
I agree with this analysis...because I remember when Vander was a Soph we were saying how super good we'd be when he was a senior. Things change.
Quote from: DCHoopster on October 05, 2017, 09:06:45 AM
insight, ok, spelled it wrong, big deal to you I guess.
I will admit, I'm a bit of a grammar stickler and probably missed my calling to be a copy editor. A couple months back I even tweeted to a reporter and helped correct an error. The article was about Adam Jones being called the N-Word by Red Sox fans and the reporter omitted the word "not" when she wrote "Going to someone's work place and yelling racial slurs at them is completely acceptable." Oops!
I usually try to let it slide on an internet message board. One exception is when the wrong word is used and the meaning of a post is completely changed. Honestly though, I got more of a chuckle than anything. Even though I assumed you meant insight, the thought of an open practice causing the board to lash out in violent behavior is pretty funny. To me anyway.
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 05, 2017, 09:56:39 AM
Anyways? Sounds like gramma no matta 2 u
Thanks for the correction. I admit misusing "anyways" instead of "anyway" is one of my grammar pitfalls.
Edit: I researched it and discovered "anyways" is colloquial. It is generally considered acceptable to be used in informal writing. In formal writing, "anyway" should be used. Carry on.
Quote from: DCHoopster on October 05, 2017, 09:18:11 AM
Good, so am I. I am not writing a paper to get graded on or my spelling, if somebody wants to correct me that is great though. Never got an A in English, maybe A
in business courses.
More insight, it is great to see all the potential recruits coming to Madness. To me, Wojo and staff are tireless workers. Nice to have a recruiting budget that does
not stop. Future looks very bright with the addition of the new Arena coming, I expect big crowds the first year with a very good team for sure! Next year with or
without Grimes, they should win a couple games in the NCAA tournament.
Who is all coming to madness?
Quote from: TSmith34 on October 05, 2017, 09:40:35 AM
I agree with this analysis...because I remember when Vander was a Soph we were saying how super good we'd be when he was a senior. Things change.
Had Vander played that senior year and McKay had stayed. Probably would have been super good
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on October 05, 2017, 12:43:47 PM
Had Vander played that senior year and McKay had stayed. Probably would have been super good
That was always the year I was looking forward to as the year we could win it all. Instead, Vander and McKay both left, no one stepped into the leadership void, and we missed the tournament.
I've been feeling similarly positive feelings about 2018-19 and 2019-20. A bit unnerving, considering how it went the last time.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 05, 2017, 12:56:47 PM
I've been feeling similarly positive feelings about 2018-19 and 2019-20. A bit unnerving, considering how it went the last time.
Yup, that was exactly my point. The future looks extremely rosy, but things can change in a hurry. I'll just enjoy this upcoming year and wait to see what the actual roster looks like the year after.
Quote from: TSmith34 on October 05, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
Yup, that was exactly my point. The future looks extremely rosy, but things can change in a hurry. I'll just enjoy this upcoming year and wait to see what the actual roster looks like the year after.
2019-20 season we will be on probation when it surfaces that Wojo was taking kickbacks from Ben and Jerry.
Quote from: Grime-y Headband on October 05, 2017, 09:53:14 AM
I will admit, I'm a bit of a grammar stickler and probably missed my calling to be a copy editor. A couple months back I even tweeted to a reporter and helped correct an error. The article was about Adam Jones being called the N-Word by Red Sox fans and the reporter omitted the word "not" when she wrote "Going to someone's work place and yelling racial slurs at them is completely acceptable." Oops!
"Not" is a good word to forget to use there.
Quote from: barfolomew on October 05, 2017, 03:03:33 PM
2019-20 season we will be on probation when it surfaces that Wojo was taking kickbacks from Ben and Jerry.
Money can be traced. In Wojo's case, the evidence was eaten.