Four years ago was nice, 14 years ago was great. Only the third time in our history.
Marquette defeats #1 Kentucky Wildcats
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I cried when Marquette beat Kentucky.
Followed bye T-Cubed crappin' down his leg, on college basketball's biggest stage, wit a weak ta prepare for KU's fast break. Butt, he had no answers and da game wuz long over bye half time, ai na?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 30, 2017, 07:29:46 AM
Followed bye T-Cubed crappin' down his leg, on college basketball's biggest stage, wit a weak ta prepare for KU's fast break. Butt, he had no answers and da game wuz long over bye half time, ai na?
Yep, Tom got lucky with Wade and deserves no credit for getting Marquette to the final four. But he deserves all the blame for losing in the final four. ::)
Exposed his coachin' flaws and da phony he is.
Still hasn't gotten bedder ta dis dey. Witout #3 he'd be a lifer at U of Nebraska-Omaha, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 30, 2017, 08:36:15 AM
Exposed his coachin' flaws and da phony he is.
Still hasn't gotten bedder ta dis dey. Witout #3 he'd be a lifer at U of Nebraska-Omaha, hey?
The guy still had three NITs and three non Wade NCAA tournament appearances. That's a bit better than Nebraska Omaha. Most A10 or MWC teams would kill for Crean.
Quote from: tower912 on March 30, 2017, 07:09:04 AM
I cried when Marquette beat Kentucky.
I remember being somewhat shocked that day. I went up just hoping to cheer them to a good performance, but that Kentucky team looked near unbeatable. They had what, a 26-game winning streak and were the clear-cut #1 team in the country? And then right from the start, we played with them and then were pulling away in the first half. One of those surreal moments when you're not sure if our team is that good or if something is about to go wrong.
Of course, it did end up going wrong, but not until the next week.
I had a feeling after watching Wisconsin give UK all they could handle, that MU could beat 'em. Did not see a blowout happening, obviously.
Tower
Goose cried a couple of times that afternoon and evening. Beating Kentucky is always high on the list and doing it on a big stage was awfully cool. Unfortunately, as 4ever said, that next week was one of the low moments in MU history. To make that day worse, a very dear family friend (off the charts MU fan) passed away later that evening.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 30, 2017, 08:58:18 AM
The guy still had three NITs and three non Wade NCAA tournament appearances. That's a bit better than Nebraska Omaha. Most A10 or MWC teams would kill for Crean.
don't try to use logic with that clown and his shtick.
The fact is in the first two rounds Wade was invisible and Crean coached the team to victory. And if it only took one star player to get to a Final Four why didn't Ben Simmons or Markell Faultz make it to the Final Four even make it to the tourney?
Crean rebuilt MU and he rebuilt IU. He'll rebuild another program too.
I guess Lon Kruger sucks as a coach too, according to Goober, considering he lost by 44 to Villanova in last year's final four.
Nice ta see you reed da board and tanks for yo input, Jack, hey?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 30, 2017, 04:41:09 PM
The fact is in the first two rounds Wade was invisible and Crean coached the team to victory. And if it only took one star player to get to a Final Four why didn't Ben Simmons or Markell Faultz make it to the Final Four even make it to the tourney?
The fact is that Wade was subpar in rounds one and two but hardly "invisible". He was our leading rebounder (13) and assist man (11) through those games and our second leading scorer (39). And comparing one of the best basketball players of all time to Ben Simmons or Markell Faultz is ludicrous.
Quote from: Goose on March 30, 2017, 11:11:52 AM
Tower
Goose cried a couple of times that afternoon and evening. Beating Kentucky is always high on the list and doing it on a big stage was awfully cool. Unfortunately, as 4ever said, that next week was one of the low moments in MU history. To make that day worse, a very dear family friend (off the charts MU fan) passed away later that evening.
The lowest NCAA moment in MU history was a one point loss, in my opinion. People get hung up that we lost a Final Four game by a lot of points? We lost a first round game in 1978 in what was arguably equivalent to a 16 vs 1 loss, or 15 vs 2 (yes, I'm aware there were not 64 teams back then).
We have been trounced a number of times in the NCAA tournament, lose by 1 or lose by 30, still going home. Syracuse crushed us 4 years ago. North Carolina in 2011. MSU in '07. Providence in 1997. Nova in '80. Kentucky in '75.
The journey of making it to the Final Four in '03 far outweighed the loss. I'd rather have that journey than the '78 loss to Miami (OH) in the first game. That was the most embarrassing loss in our NCAA tournament history. We earned a Final Four in '03, in '78 we earned nothing.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 30, 2017, 08:18:24 PM
The fact is that Wade was subpar in rounds one and two but hardly "invisible". He was our leading rebounder (13) and assist man (11) through those games and our second leading scorer (39). And comparing one of the best basketball players of all time to Ben Simmons or Markell Faultz is ludicrous.
+1
The "Wade was invisible" narrative has become just as entrenched as a false truth in MU Scoop history as the "Crean's entire career exists because of Wade" narrative.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 30, 2017, 04:41:09 PM
The fact is in the first two rounds Wade was invisible and Crean coached the team to victory. And if it only took one star player to get to a Final Four why didn't Ben Simmons or Markell Faultz make it to the Final Four even make it to the tourney?
Right, Crean's coaching was the only reason why Diener put up 29 points against Holy Cross and why they didn't miss a single shot or free throw in OT against Missouri.
Those games against the #14 and #6 seeds shouldn't have been anywhere nearly as close as they were. And that is more likely the result of coaching than the performances that were needed to survive the first weekend of that tournament.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 31, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
+1
The "Wade was invisible" narrative has become just as entrenched as a false truth in MU Scoop history as the "Crean's entire career exists because of Wade" narrative.
I think Crean did a fine job at MU. I have few complaints. But when you look at the 18 years he has been a high major coach, how many times has he gotten past the sweet 16 without Wade? Would you want a coach who's ceiling was the sweet 16 for most of his career, despite having tremendous resources at his disposal? He landed Wade. That team went to the final 4. He deserves full marks for that and I give them to him and appreciate it more than I can say. What about the other 17 years?
Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2017, 10:06:35 AM
I think Crean did a fine job at MU. I have few complaints. But when you look at the 18 years he has been a high major coach, how many times has he gotten past the sweet 16 without Wade? Would you want a coach who's ceiling was the sweet 16 for most of his career, despite having tremendous resources at his disposal? He landed Wade. That team went to the final 4. He deserves full marks for that and I give them to him and appreciate it more than I can say. What about the other 17 years?
Didn't need this many words to prove my point.
He has a career. He is a .600 coach over 18 seasons. He has won big 10 titles and coach of the year awards. When you look at the totality of his career objectively, he is a good coach but not a great coach. Not a slam. Not a narrative.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=8154.msg65935#msg65935
Talk about prescient when hiring a Duke assistant....
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=8900.msg74424#msg74424
Another prescient observation
.http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=9374.msg80306#msg80306
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=11177.msg98807#msg98807
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=11747.msg104400#msg104400
Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2017, 10:14:35 AM
He has a career. He is a .600 coach over 18 seasons. He has won big 10 titles and coach of the year awards. When you look at the totality of his career objectively, he is a good coach but not a great coach. Not a slam. Not a narrative.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=8154.msg65935#msg65935
Talk about prescient when hiring a Duke assistant....
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=8900.msg74424#msg74424
Another prescient observation
.http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=9374.msg80306#msg80306
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=11177.msg98807#msg98807
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=11747.msg104400#msg104400
You spent 30 minutes finding ways to slap your back. That's weird.
I was a sportswriter back then and I had a credential to the Minneapolis regional because one of the teams I covered was in that region. But that team lost the previous weekend, so the company would no longer pay me to go.
My wife had a friend I had never met who also went to MU and she and her husband were driving up for the weekend. They offered me a ride, but the idea of riding with strangers, coupled with sitting on press row even though I wouldn't have been working (borderline unethical, though I probably would have found a way to work it into something I was gonna write) made me decide not to go.
One of the worst decisions I've made in the last 20 years.
I loved watching the games on TV, including the KY game with a big contingent of fellow alums, but it would have been something to be there. I envy those who were. Damn!
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 31, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
You spent 30 minutes finding ways to slap your back. That's weird.
More like bored.
Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2017, 10:06:35 AM
I think Crean did a fine job at MU. I have few complaints. But when you look at the 18 years he has been a high major coach, how many times has he gotten past the sweet 16 without Wade? Would you want a coach who's ceiling was the sweet 16 for most of his career, despite having tremendous resources at his disposal? He landed Wade. That team went to the final 4. He deserves full marks for that and I give them to him and appreciate it more than I can say. What about the other 17 years?
ScopesnotSnopes to correct the record.
Of those 18 coaching years, 5 were rebuilding. He also had two years with major injuries (this year OG and Hartmann and the Diener year for MU), but we will count those anyway.
13 years not rebuilding, made the NCAAs 9 times, NIT 3 times, one year no tournament.
Other fun fact. His teams have been knocked out by very good to great teams a number of times.
2003 knocked out by National Runner Up Kansas
2008 knocked out by Sweet 16 Stanford in OT
2012 knocked out by National Champions Kentucky
2013 knocked out by Final Four team Syracuse
2015 knocked out by Sweet 16 Wichita State
2016 knocked out by National Runner Up North Carolina
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 31, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
Right, Crean's coaching was the only reason why Diener put up 29 points against Holy Cross and why they didn't miss a single shot or free throw in OT against Missouri.
Those games against the #14 and #6 seeds shouldn't have been anywhere nearly as close as they were. And that is more likely the result of coaching than the performances that were needed to survive the first weekend of that tournament.
Holy Cross was 25-5 and had won 20 of 21 games coming into that game. Damn good team. Missouri, beat Kansas only two games earlier in the Big 12 tournament. They were in the finals of the Big 12 tournament and lost by 2. Playing very well.
If you're going to rip on not running roughshod over Holy Cross and Missouri, then you must be wild over the wins over Pittsburgh and Kentucky where we were the underdog.
I remember going to the bathroom at halftime at the Metrodome. We were up big but nobody wanted to say anything. So much small talk. You can not overstate how big UK was that season. Clear #1.
Of course we should have known we'd win...we own Kentucky in the tournament.
I bought my lone ticket from Kentucky fans who had great seats. Their friend didn't show. At halftime I remember saying to them that they would come back and the game was going down to the end. And they quietly nodded but I felt they didn't agree.
Usually Wildcat fans are pretty cocky but I think they knew this wasn't their day. It was ours.
Quote from: ScopesnotSnopes on March 31, 2017, 11:43:52 PM
ScopesnotSnopes to correct the record.
Of those 18 coaching years, 5 were rebuilding. He also had two years with major injuries (this year OG and Hartmann and the Diener year for MU), but we will count those anyway.
13 years not rebuilding, made the NCAAs 9 times, NIT 3 times, one year no tournament.
Other fun fact. His teams have been knocked out by very good to great teams a number of times.
2003 knocked out by National Runner Up Kansas
2008 knocked out by Sweet 16 Stanford in OT
2012 knocked out by National Champions Kentucky
2013 knocked out by Final Four team Syracuse
2015 knocked out by Sweet 16 Wichita State
2016 knocked out by National Runner Up North Carolina
Quote from: ScopesnotSnopes on March 31, 2017, 11:52:26 PM
Holy Cross was 25-5 and had won 20 of 21 games coming into that game. Damn good team. Missouri, beat Kansas only two games earlier in the Big 12 tournament. They were in the finals of the Big 12 tournament and lost by 2. Playing very well.
If you're going to rip on not running roughshod over Holy Cross and Missouri, then you must be wild over the wins over Pittsburgh and Kentucky where we were the underdog.
Welcome back James!
Quote from: wadesworld on April 01, 2017, 12:51:07 AM
Welcome back James!
David, not James.
Best April 1st joke in awhile and the anguish on his face while sucking you guys in, even better.
Four of us here in Phoenix for the Final Four, including JD. This is our third time at the event over the years. Yesterday at breakfast I told him Scoop has a new member that will have his bestest friends knocking themselves over to say hello.
He had two reactions. WHY are you doing that? After showing him some of my entries, his second reaction was a nice middle finger and a shaking of the head.
We then had a game of who would respond first and most often. JD refused to participate, but the rest of us had our money on RealChili, Wadesworld, Smith, MU82 and Lenny. Ryan had you, and he was the winner.
Told JD last night after the games one more entry was coming as homage. He had to leave early this morning to get back to his family before heading to Augusta for the Masters. I hate him sometimes.
In honor of all the players, coaches, big wigs he introduced us to yesterday, a name dropping was in order as a salute to him. He will give me another finger for sure, but it was great. Thanks JD! Get well soon, your bros.
#Tom Crean (very gracious with us, more a fan now than I used to be)
#Adam Morrison (he was so nervous before the game, needed win to get monkey off his back)
#Charles Barkley (amazing)
#Michael Slive (don't know who he is but JD said used to be top 2 or 3 most powerful NCAA guys)
#Jamie Dixon (the meetings of the Jamies, talking So. Cal)
#Matt Painter (Purdue coach)
#Keith Urban
#John Stockton (Could still play)
#Dan Guerrero (UCLA Athletic Director)
Other people that were Athletic honchos whom I cannot remember.
Final Thoughts. Marquette represented well in Phoenix. Tomorrow night will be head to toe in Marquette regalia. Randomly ran into two guys in the lobby of the hotel last night with MU gear, neither attended our great university but we hit it off. At the Turner \ TBS party, another MU fan. Several at the Keith Urban concert Friday night. Too many fat Badger fans here and we had some fun with them, too.
Yo, shout out, ai na?
Free Chicos 2017
Quote from: ScopesnotSnopes on April 02, 2017, 09:19:04 AM
David, not James.
Best April 1st joke in awhile and the anguish on his face while sucking you guys in, even better.
Four of us here in Phoenix for the Final Four, including JD. This is our third time at the event over the years. Yesterday at breakfast I told him Scoop has a new member that will have his bestest friends knocking themselves over to say hello.
He had two reactions. WHY are you doing that? After showing him some of my entries, his second reaction was a nice middle finger and a shaking of the head.
We then had a game of who would respond first and most often. JD refused to participate, but the rest of us had our money on RealChili, Wadesworld, Smith, MU82 and Lenny. Ryan had you, and he was the winner.
Told JD last night after the games one more entry was coming as homage. He had to leave early this morning to get back to his family before heading to Augusta for the Masters. I hate him sometimes.
In honor of all the players, coaches, big wigs he introduced us to yesterday, a name dropping was in order as a salute to him. He will give me another finger for sure, but it was great. Thanks JD! Get well soon, your bros.
#Tom Crean (very gracious with us, more a fan now than I used to be)
#Adam Morrison (he was so nervous before the game, needed win to get monkey off his back)
#Charles Barkley (amazing)
#Michael Slive (don't know who he is but JD said used to be top 2 or 3 most powerful NCAA guys)
#Jamie Dixon (the meetings of the Jamies, talking So. Cal)
#Matt Painter (Purdue coach)
#Keith Urban
#John Stockton (Could still play)
#Dan Guerrero (UCLA Athletic Director)
Other people that were Athletic honchos whom I cannot remember.
Final Thoughts. Marquette represented well in Phoenix. Tomorrow night will be head to toe in Marquette regalia. Randomly ran into two guys in the lobby of the hotel last night with MU gear, neither attended our great university but we hit it off. At the Turner \ TBS party, another MU fan. Several at the Keith Urban concert Friday night. Too many fat Badger fans here and we had some fun with them, too.
Yup, it's official, welcome back to MUScoop James!
Off the lithium, eh?
Multiple personalities!
Or finding friends just like him.
Incredible
toldja guys scopes wasn't jams, but thanks for playin, ehehehyn'a?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 02, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
toldja guys scopes wasn't jams, but thanks for playin, ehehehyn'a?
My best guess is James is such a good guy he found a random MU fan going to Phoenix, couldn't go to the Finals himself because he's off to Augusta...because, you know, it starts...well, Thursday, so he couldn't make...Monday night's Finals?...as reported by the formerly random stranger who is now his beer buddy, and made the drive to Phoenix to hook said beer buddy up with some awesome free Final Four tickets. What a great guy that James is.
How many screennames has Chicoloops had? Off of the top of my head this is number 3, but Mr. Snopes referenced 4 buddies there. Snopes, Chicos, Hoopaloop, and...? Which personality did I miss?
Quote from: ScopesnotSnopes on March 31, 2017, 11:43:52 PM
ScopesnotSnopes to correct the record.
Of those 18 coaching years, 5 were rebuilding. He also had two years with major injuries (this year OG and Hartmann and the Diener year for MU), but we will count those anyway.
13 years not rebuilding, made the NCAAs 9 times, NIT 3 times, one year no tournament.
Other fun fact. His teams have been knocked out by very good to great teams a number of times.
2003 knocked out by National Runner Up Kansas
2008 knocked out by Sweet 16 Stanford in OT
2012 knocked out by National Champions Kentucky
2013 knocked out by Final Four team Syracuse
2015 knocked out by Sweet 16 Wichita State
2016 knocked out by National Runner Up North Carolina
Factually, not much to argue except 3rd year of rebuilding at Indiana. Record looked roughly the same, but appears their Ken Pom was much better. What are you using as criteria?
For laughs, add to your list for those knocked his clubs out by good or great teams. Classic big time program goes to NIT and looked like they didn't want to be there. Four or Five of these a year it seems.
2017 knocked out by NIT Runner Up Georgia Tech
Quote from: 4or5yearstojudge on April 04, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
Factually, not much to argue except 3rd year of rebuilding at Indiana. Record looked roughly the same, but appears their Ken Pom was much better. What are you using as criteria?
For laughs, add to your list for those knocked his clubs out by good or great teams. Classic big time program goes to NIT and looked like they didn't want to be there. Four or Five of these a year it seems.
2017 knocked out by NIT Runner Up Georgia Tech
I've avoided the obvious troll job, but the list of "knocked out by" is comical.
2003 Knocked out by a team that lost their next game.
2008 Knocked out by a team that lost their next game.
2012 Valid.
2013 Knocked out by a team that won one more game.
2015 Knocked out by a team that won one more game.
2016 Valid.
So 4/6 times, the team either lost their next game or lost the game after that. It's not like they were propelled to some incredible run by beating Crean.
This is why taking solace in losing to a team that goes deep (South Carolina, for example) makes no sense to me. You are still out and part of that "deep run" was your own team's failings.
Lost to national runner up Kansas. LOST TO NATIONAL RUNNER UP KANSAS?!? Are you effing kidding me? After that game, the only two options were national runner up or national champs. So basically, they beat Crean then maximized their possible failure.
What an inane argument.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 04, 2017, 10:22:15 AM
So 4/6 times, the team either lost their next game or lost the game after that. It's not like they were propelled to some incredible run by beating Crean.
This is why taking solace in losing to a team that goes deep (South Carolina, for example) makes no sense to me. You are still out and part of that "deep run" was your own team's failings.
Lost to national runner up Kansas. LOST TO NATIONAL RUNNER UP KANSAS?!? Are you effing kidding me? After that game, the only two options were national runner up or national champs. So basically, they beat Crean then maximized their possible failure.
What an inane argument.
I wasn't making the inane argument. Only stated that what was said was factually correct.
My view losing to someone that goes far is better than losing to someone that goes out early. It helps to legitimize your exit, keeps you in the news because the media will talk about the teams they beat. I felt a lot better watching SC beat Duke, beat Baylor go to the Final Four and damn near beat Gonzaga. That was a team that hit its stride and losing to someone like St. Mary's or Dayton (also a 7 seed), would have felt much worse. Don't think that is an inane argument, but maybe I am making it.
Quote from: ScopesnotSnopes on April 02, 2017, 09:19:04 AM
David, not James.
Best April 1st joke in awhile and the anguish on his face while sucking you guys in, even better.
Four of us here in Phoenix for the Final Four, including JD. This is our third time at the event over the years. Yesterday at breakfast I told him Scoop has a new member that will have his bestest friends knocking themselves over to say hello.
He had two reactions. WHY are you doing that? After showing him some of my entries, his second reaction was a nice middle finger and a shaking of the head.
We then had a game of who would respond first and most often. JD refused to participate, but the rest of us had our money on RealChili, Wadesworld, Smith, MU82 and Lenny. Ryan had you, and he was the winner.
Told JD last night after the games one more entry was coming as homage. He had to leave early this morning to get back to his family before heading to Augusta for the Masters. I hate him sometimes.
In honor of all the players, coaches, big wigs he introduced us to yesterday, a name dropping was in order as a salute to him. He will give me another finger for sure, but it was great. Thanks JD! Get well soon, your bros.
#Tom Crean (very gracious with us, more a fan now than I used to be)
#Adam Morrison (he was so nervous before the game, needed win to get monkey off his back)
#Charles Barkley (amazing)
#Michael Slive (don't know who he is but JD said used to be top 2 or 3 most powerful NCAA guys)
#Jamie Dixon (the meetings of the Jamies, talking So. Cal)
#Matt Painter (Purdue coach)
#Keith Urban
#John Stockton (Could still play)
#Dan Guerrero (UCLA Athletic Director)
Other people that were Athletic honchos whom I cannot remember.
Final Thoughts. Marquette represented well in Phoenix. Tomorrow night will be head to toe in Marquette regalia. Randomly ran into two guys in the lobby of the hotel last night with MU gear, neither attended our great university but we hit it off. At the Turner \ TBS party, another MU fan. Several at the Keith Urban concert Friday night. Too many fat Badger fans here and we had some fun with them, too.
Semesters in grad school will be spent analyzing this post.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 04, 2017, 10:22:15 AM
I've avoided the obvious troll job, but the list of "knocked out by" is comical.
2003 Knocked out by a team that lost their next game.
2008 Knocked out by a team that lost their next game.
2012 Valid.
2013 Knocked out by a team that won one more game.
2015 Knocked out by a team that won one more game.
2016 Valid.
So 4/6 times, the team either lost their next game or lost the game after that. It's not like they were propelled to some incredible run by beating Crean.
This is why taking solace in losing to a team that goes deep (South Carolina, for example) makes no sense to me. You are still out and part of that "deep run" was your own team's failings.
Lost to national runner up Kansas. LOST TO NATIONAL RUNNER UP KANSAS?!? Are you effing kidding me? After that game, the only two options were national runner up or national champs. So basically, they beat Crean then maximized their possible failure.
What an inane argument.
This. I've been trying to figure out how to write this for awhile now.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 08, 2017, 02:33:42 AM
Semesters in grad school will be spent analyzing this post.
Enough material for a doctoral thesis in Abnormal Psychology.