There may not be such a thing, but...
Are there any sites that list/collect the names of available graduate transfers nationally?
http://georgiabasketballblog.com/possible-graduate-transfers-for-2017-18-hot-board/
The one I have interest in (But I don't see him listed) is
Anthony Dailer
Yale
PG 6-6 190
This was in the recruiting thread..... Along with some incoming Freshmen that may be available due to coaching changes. I would like to see a grad PF to show Theo the ropes, IMO that is what next year's team will need the most.
brewcity77
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/17
« Reply #6026 on: March 17, 2017, 01:36:38 PM »
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Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 17, 2017, 12:47:32 PM
Thanks TAMU. Now, who's got a list of potential grad transfers.
If Jeffrey Carroll of of Okie State came free, I'd be very happy to add him. Rs-Jr, great athlete and shooter.
A few names I've seen already:
Geno Thorpe, SG, South Florida
Jack Whitman, C, William & Mary
Nick Fuller, F, Nebraska
Khris Lane, F, Longwood
Any chance Duane Wilson grad transfers?
He is a redshirt junior meaning he's been in school four years and could have accumulated enough credits to graduate in May.
Yes, he is emotional and loyal to MU but if a young highly ranked program, that could be in line for a National Championship (i.e., Lousiville, Kansas, Mich State) is looking for veteran leadership, would he be interested?
No, I'm not suggesting he will but rather trying to remind everyone that grad transfers go both ways.
Most likely Wilson and Andrew Rowsey could both go grad transfer. From everything I've heard, I'd be surprised if either left.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
Most likely Wilson and Andrew Rowsey could both go grad transfer. From everything I've heard, I'd be surprised if either left.
Rowsey is from Virginia. If a Virginia, UNC and/or Duke have a spot for him this fall, and he can graduate in May, is he too at risk of leaving?
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 10:27:56 AM
Any chance Duane Wilson grad transfers?
He is a redshirt junior meaning he's been in school four years and could have accumulated enough credits to graduate in May.
Yes, he is emotional and loyal to MU but if a young highly ranked program, that could be in line for a National Championship (i.e., Lousiville, Kansas, Mich State) is looking for veteran leadership, would he be interested?
No, I'm not suggesting he will but rather trying to remind everyone that grad transfers go both ways.
No way Louisville, Kansas, or UNC take Wilson. They are not going to get leadership from an end of the bench player that has never been at their school. Guess it's time to buy more Apple stock.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
Most likely Wilson and Andrew Rowsey could both go grad transfer. From everything I've heard, I'd be surprised if either left.
Agreed. I'd be really, really surprised. Rowsey has a guaranteed major role on a very solid Power 6 team. And Duane will likely be named Captain next year and get significant minutes, even if off the bench. Why mess with that?
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 19, 2017, 10:44:39 AM
No way Louisville, Kansas, or UNC take Wilson. They are not going to get leadership from an end of the bench player that has never been at their school.
So Katin provided no leadership whatsoever? He came from USC and was a bench player for MU.
And you're positive a highly ranked team might not want to add a fifth year senior that might provide the leadership and/or experience should someone go down during the season. MU certainly could have used a Wilson type in 2008 when DJ broke his foot. And remember other teams see Wilson as a starter in the Big East (he was the last seven games) that was also a tourney team.
So if you want to argue he is going to stay, why not argue a positive reason instead of essentially saying he sucks (or not good enough for a ranked team).
Again, I'm not trying to say he is leaving, and I do not want him to leave. It's just everyone here see grad transfers as a one-way street, we only get them, never see them leave here for elsewhere.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 10:35:42 AM
Rowsey is from Virginia. If a Virginia, UNC and/or Duke have a spot for him this fall, and he can graduate in May, is he too at risk of leaving?
It's possible, but it would be very surprising to me. Duane has family here and strong ties to Milwaukee. If he leaves, it's probably to earn money. For Rowsey, Wojo gave him a chance and this offense is perfectly tailored to his skillset.
Everything I've heard leads me to believe they will both be back. But anything could happen. I wouldn't worry too much about it, as I think the odds of adding two grad transfers is higher than losing one, and we've seen how hard it is to add more than one in a single summer.
I'm in agreement with brew here. I see the prospects of DU leaving at below 15%. I'd put Rowsey in the same range. Neither seems unhappy in any way. And I can't think of a situation that would be materially better for them although I suppose it's possible.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
So Katin provided no leadership whatsoever? He came from USC and was a bench player for MU.
And you're positive a highly ranked team might not want to add a fifth year senior that might provide the leadership and/or experience should someone go down during the season. MU certainly could have used a Wilson type in 2008 when DJ broke his foot. And remember other teams see Wilson as a starter in the Big East (he was the last seven games) that was also a tourney team.
So if you want to argue he is going to say, why not argue a positive reason instead of essentially saying he sucks (or not good enough for a ranked team).
Again, I'm not trying to say he is leaving, and I do not want him to leave. It's just everyone here see grad transfers as a one-way street, we only get them, never see them leave here for elsewhere.
Yeah, I'm sure Roy Williams, Bill Self, Coach K, Tom Izzo, Tony Bennett, Coach Cal, and Steve Alford are sitting around their phones refreshing a guy's Twitter and Instagram pages for the news he's going to be a graduate transfer that averaged 16 mpg, 5 ppg, 2 rpg, and 1.5 apg on a bubble BE team.
Click. Bait.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
It's just everyone here see grad transfers as a one-way street, we only get them, never see them leave here for elsewhere.
It has been discussed here many times before.
But that would require actually going through other threads.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on March 19, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
It has been discussed here many times before.
Everything has been discussed here many times.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 11:43:01 AM
Everything has been discussed here many times.
Then this is untrue:
"It's just everyone here see grad transfers as a one-way street, we only get them, never see them leave here for elsewhere."
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 11:43:01 AM
Everything has been discussed here many times.
Why don't we ever talk about football? That's what MU needs to be elite.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
So Katin provided no leadership whatsoever? He came from USC and was a bench player for MU.
And you're positive a highly ranked team might not want to add a fifth year senior that might provide the leadership and/or experience should someone go down during the season. MU certainly could have used a Wilson type in 2008 when DJ broke his foot. And remember other teams see Wilson as a starter in the Big East (he was the last seven games) that was also a tourney team.
So if you want to argue he is going to say, why not argue a positive reason instead of essentially saying he sucks (or not good enough for a ranked team).
Again, I'm not trying to say he is leaving, and I do not want him to leave. It's just everyone here see grad transfers as a one-way street, we only get them, never see them leave here for elsewhere.
Lol
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on March 19, 2017, 11:45:35 AM
Then this is untrue:
"It's just everyone here see grad transfers as a one-way street, we only get them, never see them leave here for elsewhere."
It's historically true ... Lockett, Carlino and Reinhardt in while no one left. It is also true that we have been active in the grad transfer market looking to Shonn Miller, Damian Lee last year alone.
On the other side, Rowsey and Wilson are the first two starting juniors (basketball wise) with four years of college (academic wise). It has been many years, if ever, that MU has had one, if not two, decent plays that are in a position to actually grad transfer.
So yes, I think many "forgot" they could leave here too.
But I know, you all hung up on "everyone" as your specialty is taking everything as literally as possible while not looking at the broader meaning.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2017, 11:09:33 AM
Yeah, I'm sure Roy Williams, Bill Self, Coach K, Tom Izzo, Tony Bennett, Coach Cal, and Steve Alford are sitting around their phones refreshing a guy's Twitter and Instagram pages for the news he's going to be a graduate transfer that averaged 16 mpg, 5 ppg, 2 rpg, and 1.5 apg on a bubble BE team.
Click. Bait.
In the post-game interview after West Virginia beat ND yesterday, while still standing on the court, Huggins was asked how is he going to celebrate his win and another S16 trip. He said, deadly serious, he was going to walk into the locker room and talk to his team and then go recruiting.
So, yes, the Roy Williams, Bill Self, Coach K, Tom Izzo, Tony Bennett, Coach Cal, and Steve Alford
are indeed sitting around their phones refreshing a guy's Twitter and Instagram pages.
How do you think they got to their position?
None of us know for sure that Duane and Rowsey are in position to graduate. Duane is more likely since he has been at MU for four full years and summers, but less likely Rowsey is unless he took a full course load both years he has been at MU. Its definitely possible, but not a given.
That said, I see no way Rowsey leaves. He is a major part of this team and by all accounts loves Marquette. Duane I could see, maybe, but how in demand is he really going to be? Plus, as others have said, he has a little boy and his family is from Milwaukee. Leaving could be complicated for him. His post game comments after the loss Friday night certainly didn't sound like a guy who was on his way out the door.
As for adding grad transfers - I can't wait. I think this is the year Wojo gets us a gem. We've had some really nice players in Lockett, Carlino and KR, but not an all conference type player. Wojo has shown he is willing to go after the big fish, and with our return to the NCAAs and with the talent we have coming back, MU is going to be very attractive for grad transfers. A 6'7 shut down defensive wing that could play the 3 or the 4 and fill it up would be absolutely unreal. I know, I know - those guys don't grow on trees, but I assure you there will be a few names that will fit the bill. TAMU - can't wait for your list!
After that, I hope he uses the other available scholarship on a traditional transfer. I'd be fine if we landed Elliot, but I'd prefer a transfer.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 12:20:25 PM
It's historically true ... Lockett, Carlino and Reinhardt in while no one left. It is also true that we have been active in the grad transfer market looking to Shonn Miller, Damian Lee last year alone.
On the other side, Rowsey and Wilson are the first two starting juniors (basketball wise) with four years of college (academic wise). It has been many years, if ever, that MU has had one, if not two, decent plays that are in a position to actually grad transfer.
So yes, I think many "forgot" they could leave here too.
But I know, you all hung up on "everyone" as your specialty is taking everything as literally as possible while not looking at the broader meaning.
No. I am saying that the possibility of graduate transfers out of Marquette has been repeatedly discussed here, especially this year with either Duane or Rowsey.
Your statement was wrong. You're spin suggested otherwise is pathetic.
Quote from: silverback on March 19, 2017, 02:53:04 AM
There may not be such a thing, but...
Are there any sites that list/collect the names of available graduate transfers nationally?
Paint Touches compiles one every year. I'm currently working on it.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on March 19, 2017, 12:39:23 PM
No. I am saying that the possibility of graduate transfers out of Marquette has been repeatedly discussed here, especially this year with either Duane or Rowsey.
Your statement was wrong. You're spin suggested otherwise is pathetic.
Everything is repeatedly discussed here, including discussing that everything is repeatedly discussed here.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 12:48:42 PM
Everything is repeatedly discussed here, including discussing that everything is repeatedly discussed here.
So, again, your statement was wrong. Thanks for playing.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 12:27:00 PM
In the post-game interview after West Virginia beat ND yesterday, while still standing on the court, Huggins was asked how is he going to celebrate his win and another S16 trip. He said, deadly serious, he was going to walk into the locker room and talk to his team and then go recruiting.
So, yes, the Roy Williams, Bill Self, Coach K, Tom Izzo, Tony Bennett, Coach Cal, and Steve Alford are indeed sitting around their phones refreshing a guy's Twitter and Instagram pages.
How do you think they got to their position?
Read the rest of the sentence buddy. It'll help you post things that make people actually want to take what you post seriously.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 19, 2017, 12:36:05 PM
That said, I see no way Rowsey leaves. He is a major part of this team and by all accounts loves Marquette. Duane I could see, maybe, but how in demand is he really going to be? Plus, as others have said, he has a little boy and his family is from Milwaukee. Leaving could be complicated for him. His post game comments after the loss Friday night certainly didn't sound like a guy who was on his way out the door.
Duane in the MJS yesterday as quoted by Matt:
"You've just got to remember we've got another chance; there's more life and another chance to play in the tournament," Wilson said. "I'm really ready to get to work. I've got a lot of stuff I feel I need to work on, the team needs to work on. ... Rest is key, then we'll really get back to these workouts and build this team."
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2017, 12:52:34 PM
Read the rest of the sentence buddy. It'll help you post things that make people actually want to take what you post seriously.
Everyone knows you disagree with for the sake of disagreeing. For some unsettling reason, you have made this a mission of yours. So worry about you own credibility.
But you put you down again .... here is the missing sentence ...
he's going to be a graduate transfer that averaged 16 mpg, 5 ppg, 2 rpg, and 1.5 apg on a bubble BE team.So, who would possibly be interested in a grad transfer like this?
Well here is a graduate transfer that started 18 of 34 games and was only the fifth highest scorer on his team. His name was Katin Reinhardt
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/usc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/stats/season_stats.pdf
But even more important, why is your argument that Duane is a crappy player that no one wants?
Quote from: WarriorHal on March 19, 2017, 01:35:30 PM
Duane in the MJS yesterday as quoted by Matt:
"You've just got to remember we've got another chance; there's more life and another chance to play in the tournament," Wilson said. "I'm really ready to get to work. I've got a lot of stuff I feel I need to work on, the team needs to work on. ... Rest is key, then we'll really get back to these workouts and build this team."
Hey Wades and Headband ...
Here is a much better argument. Instead of arguing that Duane stinks and no one wants him, just note that he is happy and psyched about playing here next year.
Issue over.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
So Katin provided no leadership whatsoever? He came from USC and was a bench player for MU.
And you're positive a highly ranked team might not want to add a fifth year senior that might provide the leadership and/or experience should someone go down during the season. MU certainly could have used a Wilson type in 2008 when DJ broke his foot. And remember other teams see Wilson as a starter in the Big East (he was the last seven games) that was also a tourney team.
So if you want to argue he is going to stay, why not argue a positive reason instead of essentially saying he sucks (or not good enough for a ranked team).
Again, I'm not trying to say he is leaving, and I do not want him to leave. It's just everyone here see grad transfers as a one-way street, we only get them, never see them leave here for elsewhere.
1. Starting no matta. Katin played starter minutes and brought NCAA tournament experience. So yes, I think he provided some leadership though his newcomer status limited his leadership contributions. But note that I said "end of bench" player, which is what Duane was much of the year at Marquette, nevermind the schools you listed.
2. Starting no matta. So Duane technically started the last 7 games and has lots of starting experience from past years. But what in his play this year screams Big East starter. But I think Duane has had some nagging injuries. Can he regain his explosiveness? I hope so. But I don't think an outside program can count on that.
3. No where did I say Duane sucks. But objectively speaking, I do think the 3 programs you listed would aim higher up the grad transfer market.
4. The reasons for Duane staying are well known and much discussed. Didn't think I needed to rehash that.
5. All evidence so far suggests Duane is staying. Guess I forgot to look for boogeymen though.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 01:50:56 PM
Hey Wades and Headband ...
Here is a much better argument. Instead of arguing that Duane stinks and no one wants him, just note that he is happy and psyched about playing here next year.
Issue over.
You were the one who brought up Duane leaving. I was responding to your lunacy.
Had not seen the JS stuff till just now. So outside of being telepathic, not sure how I was supposed to know what was in Duane's head.
Based on the players from the Georgia Basketball list with at least a moderate chance of becoming a graduate transfer, and knowing nothing else about any of them beyond height/weight/stats, a few have intriguing potential:
Payton Banks of Penn State. Good size at 6-6/220. Averaged 10.4 ppg in 26.7 mpg, shooting 36% from 3-point range (not quite at Katin's level, but close). Like Katin, shot selection, rebounding and defense are big question marks.
MiKyle Mcintosh of Illinois State. Great size at 6-7/230. Averaged 12.7 ppg in 26.6 mpg, also shooting 36% from 3-point range. A very good rebounder.
Ryan Kemrite of Liberty. 6-4/200, averaged 13.7 ppg on 31.1 mpg and shot 43.8% from 3-pt. range.
Jermaine Crumpton of Canisius. 6-6/240, 15.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 42.9 3pt%, 28.4 mpg.
My favorite might be Elijah Brown of New Mexico. 6-4/190, averaged 18.8 ppg and 5.2 rpg in 32.3 mpg, a 34.6% career 3-point shooter. He's from Cali and transferred from Butler to New Mexico after his freshman year, so my guess he's not going to return to the Midwest. But Katin came here from USC; you never know.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 01:50:56 PM
Hey Wades and Headband ...
Here is a much better argument. Instead of arguing that Duane stinks and no one wants him, just note that he is happy and psyched about playing here next year.
Issue over.
Nobody is arguing that no one would want Duane. The preposterous statement that you made in your first post was that a team in line to challenge for the national championship (ie Kansas, Michigan St or Louisville) would be interested in him for "senior leadership." I think Duane is a good player and am proud to have him at Marquette but that is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here in a while and that's saying something.
Quote from: Skitch on March 19, 2017, 02:45:59 PM
Not one is arguing that no one would want Duane. The preposterous statement that you made in your first post was that a team in line to challenge for the national championship (ie Kansas, Michigan St or Louisville) would be interested in him for "senior leadership." I think Duane is a good player and am proud to have him at Marquette but that is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here in a while and that's saying something.
This
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 12:20:25 PM
It's historically true ... Lockett, Carlino and Reinhardt in while no one left. It is also true that we have been active in the grad transfer market looking to Shonn Miller, Damian Lee last year alone.
On the other side, Rowsey and Wilson are the first two starting juniors (basketball wise) with four years of college (academic wise). It has been many years, if ever, that MU has had one, if not two, decent plays that are in a position to actually grad transfer.
So yes, I think many "forgot" they could leave here too.
But I know, you all hung up on "everyone" as your specialty is taking everything as literally as possible while not looking at the broader meaning.
Not sure about all of this, but could Luke Fischer have been a grad transfer (had he chosen) from MU this past year?
Quote from: wildbillsb on March 19, 2017, 03:09:37 PM
Not sure about all of this, but could Luke Fischer have been a grad transfer (had he chosen) from MU this past year?
No. He only did four years. He transferred in the middle of his freshman year and became eligible in the middle of his sophomore year. Unless he graduated in 3 years it wouldn't have been possible.
Jamil Wilson may have been able to do it.
Quote from: chren21 on March 19, 2017, 05:42:41 AM
http://georgiabasketballblog.com/possible-graduate-transfers-for-2017-18-hot-board/
Too long a list to contemplate, who would have thought?
Thanks, smoke eater.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 01:40:31 PM
Everyone knows you disagree with for the sake of disagreeing. For some unsettling reason, you have made this a mission of yours. So worry about you own credibility.
But you put you down again .... here is the missing sentence ...
he's going to be a graduate transfer that averaged 16 mpg, 5 ppg, 2 rpg, and 1.5 apg on a bubble BE team.
So, who would possibly be interested in a grad transfer like this?
Well here is a graduate transfer that started 18 of 34 games and was only the fifth highest scorer on his team. His name was Katin Reinhardt
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/usc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/stats/season_stats.pdf
But even more important, why is your argument that Duane is a crappy player that no one wants?
Lol. Put me down again? Here I thought you said why wouldn't a team like Kentucky, UNC, Duke, etc....teams with National Title aspirations...
Katin Reinhardt averaged 10 minutes per game more than Duane and 5 points per game more than Duane did. He also was going from an NCAA Tournament team to a team that missed the NIT and lost their best player to the NBA.
But sure, Katin Reinhardt going from USC to Marquette proves that K, Roy, Self, Cal, etc. are salivating over the thought of having Duane Wilson join their team.
Hilarious, guy, hilarious. You really put me down!
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 10:27:56 AM
Any chance Duane Wilson grad transfers?
He is a redshirt junior meaning he's been in school four years and could have accumulated enough credits to graduate in May.
Yes, he is emotional and loyal to MU but if a young highly ranked program, that could be in line for a National Championship (i.e., Lousiville, Kansas, Mich State) is looking for veteran leadership, would he be interested?
No, I'm not suggesting he will but rather trying to remind everyone that grad transfers go both ways.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Just disagreeing to disagree. You got me. Not just using the most minimal amount of common sense you could ever think of.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 01:50:56 PM
Hey Wades and Headband ...
Here is a much better argument. Instead of arguing that Duane stinks and no one wants him, just note that he is happy and psyched about playing here next year.
Issue over.
Hey Dread Pirate/Heise/whatever infinite number of names you've had, here's a much better idea. Don't suggest Katin coming to Marquette means Duane is wanted by a team that is "one piece away from a National title" and I won't treat it for what it is, click bait.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
Hey Dread Pirate/Heise/whatever infinite number of names you've had
What he names himself no matta.
His friends (or whatever most of us are to him) call him Smuggles.
Slightly different transfer question ... With Illinois and Indiana switching coaches, do they have an incoming freshman that considered MU?
We have a recruiting thread that is always on the first page. Look there.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2017, 05:39:44 PM
We have a recruiting thread that is always on the first page. Look there.
You mean the one with 244 pages and 6100 posts.
Sad thing is you're probably serious.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
You mean the one with 244 pages and 6100 posts.
Sad thing is you're probably serious.
Yes. I'm serious. Quit being a lazy ass and it will take you less than 90 seconds to find.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
You mean the one with 244 pages and 6100 posts.
Sad thing is you're probably serious.
One can probably get by with page 1 and the most recent 2-3. ;D
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
You mean the one with 244 pages and 6100 posts.
Sad thing is you're probably serious.
Yes look there. Don't change the topic.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 19, 2017, 05:37:52 PM
Slightly different transfer question ... With Illinois and Indiana switching coaches, do they have an incoming freshman that considered MU?
There is a list on the most recent page of the recruiting thread.