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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: SoCalEagle on March 17, 2017, 01:19:58 PM

Title: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: SoCalEagle on March 17, 2017, 01:19:58 PM
They need to put the pressure on Arkansas. I expect they will rally and put theses guys away in the second half. Go Beast!!!
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: forgetful on March 17, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
Arkansas (like St. Johns/Louisville) is an example of officials changing how the game is called just so that the team doesn't foul out entirely.  They got called for about 6 fouls in the first 5 minutes.  They actually started reaching and fouling more the rest of the half, but the officials started to swallow their whistles otherwise the game would be over by forfeit when the entire team fouls out.  I hate that.

I've also become a vocal critic of calling offensive players for push off fouls when the defender is reaching.  I was always taught that your off arm is to defend the ball and if they reach in, break their damn arm/knock them on their ass so you draw the reach in foul.

When a ball handler, defends his space/ball now, they call an offensive foul.  There needs to be a clear distinction between a defender being granted his space/being in position (offensive foul) and a defender reaching in/bodying the ball handler (defensive foul)...in the latter the offensive player should be able to knock the defender on his ass if he wants and get to the FT line for it.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Its nice to see that man-child Delgado devastating somebody that's not us. He's gonna have a hell of a senior year.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: NickelDimer on March 17, 2017, 02:24:44 PM
Nail biter. Let's go pirates!!
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Seton hall went on a huge run to get up 8.

Then just meltdown ever since
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: wadesworld on March 17, 2017, 02:35:38 PM
I don't like SH at all so I'm cool with what's happening. But man have they had some chances to put this game away and just choke it up every time. Go up 8 and just start throwing the ball away and in like a minute you're tied. Have the ball inside a minute up 1 and turn it over leading to a run out. With the ball down 1 and Carington takes literally 6 steps without dribbling then whines about being called for a travel.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: MUMountin on March 17, 2017, 02:36:43 PM
Started firing up jumpers instead of attacking the rim.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2017, 02:36:53 PM
Wow. Flagrant on that? Refs just decided this game.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: drewm88 on March 17, 2017, 02:37:21 PM
Wow. Flagrant on that? Refs just decided this game.

They got effed.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: NickelDimer on March 17, 2017, 02:37:38 PM
Wow. Flagrant on that? Refs just decided this game.
awful and unreal
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2017, 02:38:09 PM
Officiating just dictated the outcome of the game.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: GB Warrior on March 17, 2017, 02:38:19 PM
Wow, Hall just got screwed. At least we got the bad SC refs out of the way.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: ecompt on March 17, 2017, 02:38:26 PM
Hall got screwed on that last call, but it's hard to feel bad for them. They choked this game away.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: kryza on March 17, 2017, 02:38:49 PM
Wow. Flagrant on that? Refs just decided this game.

Worst call I've seen in the tourney in a long time.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: nyg on March 17, 2017, 02:38:54 PM
Night...Night

Ark misses one and one, then turnover. 

Then stupid foul, leads to flagrant.  Ugh......

FT matter  13 for 21 for the Hall.  60%, just below their average (333rd in NCAA)
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: MUMountin on March 17, 2017, 02:39:01 PM
That's bad, although he did seem to add an extra little unnecessary push in.  But at full speed, tough to call that a flagrant
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: drewm88 on March 17, 2017, 02:39:16 PM
Hall got screwed on that last call, but it's hard to feel bad for them. They choked this game away.

True.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 17, 2017, 02:39:59 PM
Those refs should not move on.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: buckchuckler on March 17, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
That's bad, although he did seem to add an extra little unnecessary push in.  But at full speed, tough to call that a flagrant

Yup.  Nice of the refs to seal that game for Arkansas. 
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2017, 02:41:31 PM
Hall got screwed on that last call, but it's hard to feel bad for them. They choked this game away.

Absolutely true. Never let yourself get into a position where 1 bad call decides the game. But dang, that was a bad call.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: NickelDimer on March 17, 2017, 02:41:45 PM
Hall got screwed on that last call, but it's hard to feel bad for them. They choked this game away.
They completely unraveled
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 17, 2017, 02:46:34 PM
That call was awful.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: DJO's Jaw on March 17, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
Eh, by the letter of the rule it probably was a flagrant. Shoved him in the back without making a play for the ball. Not really in the spirit of the rule, but seems like it's technically correct.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: buckchuckler on March 17, 2017, 02:58:41 PM
Eh, by the letter of the rule it probably was a flagrant. Shoved him in the back without making a play for the ball. Not really in the spirit of the rule, but seems like it's technically correct.

By the letter of the law, that call could be made on at least half of end game fouls. 
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
Agreed, perfectly justified by the call.  But if you look at the fall, it was more caused by the incidental foot contact than the "push".  Oh well, SHU put themselves in a bad position.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: Nukem2 on March 17, 2017, 02:59:25 PM
Eh, by the letter of the rule it probably was a flagrant. Shoved him in the back without making a play for the ball. Not really in the spirit of the rule, but seems like it's technically correct.
That was probably. Flagrant 2 call technically. He just pushed him down.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: DJO's Jaw on March 17, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
Yeah, Hall lost that game just as much from their own mistakes as from that flagrant foul call.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: mugoose on March 17, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
anyone that thinks the flag 1 was justified is an idiot. and should probably stop watching basketball.
Title: Re: The Hall needs to get it in gear
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2017, 03:04:01 PM
Eh, by the letter of the rule it probably was a flagrant. Shoved him in the back without making a play for the ball. Not really in the spirit of the rule, but seems like it's technically correct.

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