Not bad.
Awesome.
Did i miss X?
X may be out. They are not in Dayton.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on March 12, 2017, 05:00:50 PM
X may be out. They are not in Dayton.
With Providence in Dayton, Xavier might be out.
X is in!!!!!!!!!!!
whew! well, you were right
Quote from: naginiF on March 12, 2017, 04:58:55 PM
Did i miss X?
I called it about 10 minutes early on the other board. Once Marquette got in as a 10 and when Providence got placed where they did, it a foregone conclusion that X would get in. Once I called it, that news traveled over here. People took it an ran with it...I took a chance...what chance I say? :o
Did they really pair Providence vs USC again this year? Thought they were the 1st round matchup last year..
Seems very easy to just switch up the 4 teams for some variety..
Lot of questionable moves by the committee - but can't really argue with any of the Big East seeds.
Outside of Nova/Butler, I like Creighton's path the best at making a run. Have a decent shot at getting to the sweet 16. Playing against Rhode Island, then against their old coach Dana Altmann in Oregon (without one of their top starters).
Here is an awesome picture I got from the twitter page @bigeasthoops
70% of the league is out of this world!!
70% of the Big East conference made the tourney today. That is a new conference record on a percentage basis.
The old percentage record was set in 2011 when The Big East received 11 (of 16) bids or 68.75% of the conference getting bids. The 11 bids remains the record for the most absolute number of bids for a conference.
The Big East owns all the records.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 12, 2017, 08:02:14 PM
70% of the Big East conference made the tourney today. That is a new conference record on a percentage basis.
The old percentage record was set in 2011 when The Big East received 11 (of 16) bids or 68.75% of the conference getting bids. The 11 bids remains the record for the most absolute number of bids for a conference.
The Big East owns all the records.
As was pointed out in another thread, I believe that the record for highest percentage was set by the Big East in 1991 - 7 out of 9.
Has to help recruiting to the conference. Congrats BE!
Remember a few short years ago when there was a concern about mid-major status and irrelevance?
Quote from: tower912 on March 12, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
Remember a few short years ago when there was a concern about mid-major status and irrelevance?
Ans ESPN did its obituary with its 30 for 30 "Requiem for the Big East"
http://www.espn.com/30for30/film?page=requiemforthebigeast
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 12, 2017, 08:53:33 PM
Ans ESPN did its obituary with its 30 for 30 "Requiem for the Big East"
http://www.espn.com/30for30/film?page=requiemforthebigeast
ESPN actually made a 30 for 30 film on the death of the Big East, really? I tuned out the network 5 years ago, but I am shocked by this.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on March 12, 2017, 08:35:12 PM
As was pointed out in another thread, I believe that the record for highest percentage was set by the Big East in 1991 - 7 out of 9.
This is correct. I've seen people say the record was the ACC in 1997, the Big East in 2011, and somehow people completely ignoring that 70% is pretty much a normal year for the Big 12. It's a nice feather in the cap, but not that big of a deal seeing as we'd need 8 teams in to break the actual record from 1991.
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 12, 2017, 08:43:02 PM
Has to help recruiting to the conference. Congrats BE!
Come to DePaul: Almost all of our losses were to teams that made the NCAA Tournament!!!
Never a doubt.
Quote from: warriorfred on March 12, 2017, 09:04:56 PM
ESPN actually made a 30 for 30 film on the death of the Big East, really? I tuned out the network 5 years ago, but I am shocked by this.
What's even more funny is that they decided to run it this week during the Big East Tournament and then again today at 6:00 PM CST right after the bids were announced and the Big East got 7 teams in the Big Dance. ESPN is now a slime ball network that was partly responsible for all of the conference raiding that occurred.
I lost all respect for the ESPN during the split of the original Big East Conference and their coverage of the 2013 Big East Tournament. They played it up as the last BET ever when ESPN already knew that the Catholic 7 had the rights to the name "Big East" and the C7 had a television contract with Fox Sports and it was almost a certainty the BET was going to continue at MSG.
"Requiem For The Big East" is the worst 30 for 30 because it is nothing more than a propaganda piece used to try to destroy the Big East Conference and raise the profile of the ACC. It failed.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 12, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
This is correct. I've seen people say the record was the ACC in 1997, the Big East in 2011, and somehow people completely ignoring that 70% is pretty much a normal year for the Big 12. It's a nice feather in the cap, but not that big of a deal seeing as we'd need 8 teams in to break the actual record from 1991.
You think it is possible to get 8 bids? Providence was on the bubble as they are playing in Dayton. We were a 10 seed. Keep everything the same and assume that Georgetown was 9 - 9 in conference. Now unless St. Johns and Depaul go 0 - 18, those winds have to come from somewhere and that may knock out someone else.
Point is it is a really narrow path to spread the wins around to get 8 bids.
Fantastic work by the whole Big East . Kudos to all the coaches very well earned. I love the Big East and looking forward to seeing all our teams go as far as possible.
You got to kick ass in out of conference play.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 12, 2017, 09:35:42 PM
You think it is possible to get 8 bids? Providence was on the bubble as they are playing in Dayton. We were a 10 seed. Keep everything the same and assume that Georgetown was 9 - 9 in conference. Now unless St. Johns and Depaul go 0 - 18, those winds have to come from somewhere and that may knock out someone else.
Point is it is a really narrow path to spread the wins around to get 8 bids.
Of course, its possible - that's a mathmatics question. Now is it probable? It depends on what you mean by probable. If someone who knew probability theory wanted to take the time, they could come up with a pretty good number. Ideal conditions would be a great nonconference season and a league with two awful teams and the other eight very closely matched in terms of conference record.
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 12, 2017, 09:39:40 PM
You got to kick ass in out of conference play.
The Big East does that every year. And then out of conference play ends in late December. The 8th team probably goes 8 - 10 (tying with the 7th place team) but has a bad loss (Depaul) or two. So it has serious doubts. By definition the 8th team will be on the bubble so its has a very narrow path.
7 out of 10 Bis East teams in the tournament is incredible. I don't believe it will be topped, even by the Big East of the future.
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 12, 2017, 09:35:42 PM
You think it is possible to get 8 bids? Providence was on the bubble as they are playing in Dayton. We were a 10 seed. Keep everything the same and assume that Georgetown was 9 - 9 in conference. Now unless St. Johns and Depaul go 0 - 18, those winds have to come from somewhere and that may knock out someone else.
Point is it is a really narrow path to spread the wins around to get 8 bids.
Possible? Yes. Probable? No. You need 8 teams that are pretty competitive and two dogs.
Next year, more likely Georgetown is down there than St John's, though it's impossible for two teams to go 0-18 as they will play each other twice.
I think the National Championship by Villanova went a long way in helping the conference get 7 bids this year. That championship carried a lot of weight in the national polls all year long and helped keep 'Nova near the top. That really helped the conference overall.
The only way we are going to get 8 teams in a future NCAA Tournament is three-fold and as follows: 1) crash the Final Four with 2 or 3 teams (like in 1985) so there is no doubt that the Big East is the best basketball conference on the planet, for the benefit of following seasons; or, 2) a perceived lower status Big east team like DePaul or Saint John's needs to make the Final Four to give the national perception that the Big East has strong programs top to bottom for the benefit of following seasons.
Then, if one of those two scenarios occurs the perceptual benefits, nationally, should last 2 to 3 years. Within that 2 to 3 year window the Big East teams would need to kick absolute butt in the non-conference in a given year. All of those things would provide justification for the selection committee to take an eighth or ninth Big East team, even if they have a conference record that is less than .500.
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 12, 2017, 10:02:56 PM
I think the National Championship by Villanova went a long way in helping the conference get 7 bids this year. That championship carried a lot of weight in the national polls all year long and helped keep 'Nova near the top. That really helped the conference overall.
You're probably right.
The only thing that matters to me is that BEATING the defending national champion went a long way in helping my favorite Big East team get a bid this year!
Quote from: 4everCrean on March 12, 2017, 09:17:09 PM
Come to DePaul: Almost all of our losses were to teams that made the NCAA Tournament!!!
Yep, with this theme and bringing the Logo back, it just might work.