The providence of St. Al, and the kharma of Sonoran Salsa will reign supreme and power our Warriors to victory today.
Hauser for SOTG.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
GO WARRIORS!!!
Yo Chili! No CBS Sports will be on delay >:(
Buenos Dias Newsie
Fire up Marquette. Let's do this.
Hola, mis amigos.
On the radio broadcast, hoping I can keep that or get the CBS stream once we take off. Norwegian advertises free Wi-Fi, we'll see how that works out. Part of me would rather pay for it knowing I don't have to share bandwidth.
Good start.
Unplayable floor. FRIARS FORFEIT.
Khalif Young better than Fischer
Biffed layup smh
How many layups is Wilson gonna miss this year??!!
Like our effort.
Love the hustle. Gotta convert.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 03:21:34 PM
Khalif Young better than Fischer
unnatural carnal knowledge off, Fischer hasn't even played yet!
What actually does happen if the floor stays slippery?
Make it up tomorrow?
Constant stop in actions favor Providence
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 25, 2017, 03:23:17 PM
What actually does happen if the floor stays slippery?
Make it up tomorrow?
A draw, maybe? Reminds me of the carrier game we didn't play against OSU.
Quote from: DJOs Jaw on February 25, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
unnatural carnal knowledge off, Fischer hasn't even played yet!
Young's basket was with Fischer on him
He's not better then luke tho
Did you see JjJ go to his left? I know there was a foul called but he went left!!
Playing so erratic.
We make a wide open jumper.
But follow that up with trying to go too quickly and it leads to a easy lay up for them.
Slow down, take good shots. Win.
Quote from: DJOs Jaw on February 25, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
unnatural carnal knowledge off, Fischer hasn't even played yet!
Yes he has young just abused him
Pretty soft call on Hauser with all they are letting go. Could been a moving screen.
The problem is it's a layup line for Providence.
We should run away with this one cause Brendan Haywood just told us that the Big East is not viewed as a strong conference this year.
There is absolutely no chance we win this game if we don't start defending.
I enjoy basketball less when JJJ dribbles in traffic
There is the JJ bitch to the ref which costs us.
Offense disappearing now
Rowsey has been very loose with the ball.
JJJ going to the hole regardless of the outcome. Just leaving his feet and throwing it at the rim. Love that.
Way too many back door cuts being allowed.
Is it just me or are the announcers brutal?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 03:42:35 PM
Is it just me or are the announcers brutal?
Not you, I turned off tv sound, I'd rather watch game and hear Mac N Home on delay
THAT BLOCK WAS CLEAN!
Quote from: DJOs Jaw on February 25, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
THAT BLOCK WAS CLEAN!
you could t have a cleaner block from behind. Refs taking over now!
What was i saying about the hairy wet cat versus Young?
Just so sloppy.
We are getting killed on the boards. If we keep losing on the boards we have no chance.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 03:48:48 PM
What was i saying about the hairy wet cat versus Young?
Did he bang your girlfriend or mom?
Give it a rest.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 25, 2017, 03:50:19 PM
We are getting killed on the boards. If we keep losing on the boards we have no chance.
Certainly not with the way we're defending
Several appearances today by dumb Marquette. Dumb passes. Diving for a ball that would have been an over and back leading to a travel. Ugh
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 03:50:35 PM
Did he bang your girlfriend or mom?
Give it a rest.
No hes just the worst player on the team n kills us
Keep fighting boys!!!
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 25, 2017, 03:51:25 PM
Several appearances today by dumb Marquette. Dumb passes. Diving for a ball that would have been an over and back leading to a travel. Ugh
I thought that was over and back. Shouldn't the ref have blown the whistle before Rowsey touched it?
Worst announcers ever!!!!!
Cheatham needs to see a shrink.
I'd rather turnovers come out of aggressiveness than sheer laziness.
Latin is a stud.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 03:53:19 PM
I thought that was over and back. Shouldn't the ref have blown the whistle before Rowsey touched it?
Probably would have been if Rowsey hadn't touched it first.
Ha - Katin.
This half is on Wojo...PC keeps killing them in the paint..so does he switch to zone?? Nope. Just let them keep doing it. This is what frustrates me so much about Wojo.
All in All not a bad half
But wojo needs to earn his keep here
Quote from: JerseyWarrior on February 25, 2017, 03:57:24 PM
Probably would have been if Rowsey hadn't touched it first.
Apparently I forgot the whistle isn't blown until a player touches it or it goes out. Now I'm more annoyed about the play.
Down only 1, felt a hell of a lot worse than that, that's encouraging
Game is there for the taking. Sack up, boys.
Down one after playing pretty sloppy. Could be much worse. Gotta make some adjustments and come out strong in the second half.
Guru don't worry. We make the halftime corrections and take this one home. Down by one on the road vs a hot team ain't bad.
need to tighten up that D and rebound, they're hitting everything.
Made it to half and Markus still has 2 fouls. Clean up the D and this will work out.
In decent position here. Let's come out and take it.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on February 25, 2017, 03:59:32 PM
Down only 1, felt a hell of a lot worse than that, that's encouraging
Part of that was the announcers, at least for me.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 25, 2017, 03:58:47 PM
All in All not a bad half
But wojo needs to earn his keep here
Agreed Heroes. Far from a great half for MU and down one. Could be a lot worse.
Officiating and announcers well below average today.
Quote from: muguru on February 25, 2017, 03:58:16 PM
This half is on Wojo...PC keeps killing them in the paint..so does he switch to zone?? Nope. Just let them keep doing it. This is what frustrates me so much about Wojo.
We are only down 1....and frankly it was the sloppy, brain fart turnovers on the offensive end that killed us. Game plan seems fine to me on defense...just take care of the ball better and get Luke more PT to increase rebounding and inside d and we should be fine.
Let's go Warriors.
Marcus only one playing under control. Slow down, rebound the basketball, hold onto the basketball, and fight to the final buzzer.
PS Cartwright has yet to dribble the basketball without carrying it...in his entire career.
Apparently Barandon Haywood is a HUGE Providence guy! 2 FT's and 0 O Rebounds and only down 2 is a good sign.
Quote from: muguru on February 25, 2017, 03:58:16 PM
This half is on Wojo...PC keeps killing them in the paint..so does he switch to zone?? Nope. Just let them keep doing it. This is what frustrates me so much about Wojo.
It won't matter. Four MU guys battle for the rebound against 1 PC guy and who gets the rebound? You guessed it, PC. We have to be the worst at getting in position for the rebound. If we get cold we are toast.
Our defense sucks, because our guys cannot execute.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 25, 2017, 04:03:28 PM
Marcus only one playing under control. Slow down, rebound the basketball, hold onto the basketball, and fight to the final buzzer.
PS Cartwright has yet to dribble the basketball without carrying it...in his entire career.
It's pretty blatant.
Quote from: jsglow on February 25, 2017, 04:00:18 PM
Made it to half and Markus still has 2 fouls. Clean up the D and this will work out.
Is Wojo capable of cleaning up the D? MU is one good coaching adjustment away from a huge win.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 25, 2017, 04:03:28 PM
Marcus only one playing under control. Slow down, rebound the basketball, hold onto the basketball, and fight to the final buzzer.
PS Cartwright has yet to dribble the basketball without carrying it...in his entire career.
Markus is leading the team wit 3 turnovers. He's not really under control. He can, however, shoot the frickin lights out.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 25, 2017, 04:04:18 PM
It won't matter. Four MU guys battle for the rebound against 1 PC guy and who gets the rebound? You guessed it, PC. We have to be the worst at getting in position for the rebound. If we get cold we are toast.
Our defense sucks, because our guys cannot execute.
It's also physical limitations. Our big guys are not quick are particularly physical.
Our small guys are, well, small.
And out guys who do have some athleticism are not strong.
Still should be better, though.
It we had an athletic, physical 4 (like a Marcus Jackson) it would make a huge difference.
Were down by 8 at the half in the first meeting (lost by 1). Hopefully we can have a similar 2nd half, and take this thing home.
Should have been much worse considering Howard had 2 early fouls, and our team had 8 turnovers in the 1st half..
Being "small" is no excuse for turning the ball over.
Michigan putting it on Purdue at half right now.
What???? They are not going to call travels if they think someone slipped due to the bad flooring? How will they determine that?
There's the adjustment.
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on February 25, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
What???? They are not going to call travels if they think someone slipped due to the bad flooring? How will they determine that?
Good question.
Late whistle. Awful call.
Why go right back to man?
Good old, wait to see what happens before making a call
Ugh.
Lucky we are in the game.
No D.
Sloppy ball control.
If we wake up in half two we're good.
Otherwise?
How many empty possessions has providence had ?
Can Roswey's sliding travel be retroactively not called one now?
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
Why go right back to man?
Exactly, and if you are, why the hell is Dwil not guarding Cartwright??
Stop the game.
Ahhh...that's how they will call it instead of travelling...that did seem obvious
This floor is a shiit show
This is a joke
They need to stop this game. We've reached a point where the refs are altering the rules just so players can actually play without traveling.
Get off the Friars' jock, Haywood.
Get back in a zone wojo wth are you doing???
Zero low post touches for Luke that I have seen.
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on February 25, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
Getting dangerous
They need to stop this game. Not safe. Also, you can't just have refs arbitrarily changing the rules in the middle of the game. Wtf?
Will fuschers defense cost us this one?
Stick it to em Warriors.
If they could just get this thing up to about 7-8
F*cking box out. FFS.
Go Katin.
What happens when the defender slips?
If a guy slips in d are they going to blow the whistle?
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 04:26:24 PM
Will fuschers defense cost us this one?
Fuscher hasn't checked in yet.
Lloyd this is doable, right???
Quote from: marquette09 on February 25, 2017, 04:25:57 PM
They need to stop this game. Not safe. Also, you can't just have refs arbitrarily changing the rules in the middle of the game. Wtf?
I agree. This seems like it could cost some kids something serious. What are they waiting for? Watch us be up 10 with 3 minutes to go and THEN they call it...
If you get trapped, "slip".
Announcer complainers used tuned in radio n listen to homer n mac pause game a few seconds to sync... Pretty simple
Why go away from the zone yet again?
These refs...
Eff yeah let's do this!!
They'll call the game when we're up double digits
Why is Providence the only team slipping? That side worse?
If they do call it, which seems unlikely, is it just resumed with the same score?
Someone's getting hurt. And that shouldn't be allowed.
They need to have more TV timeouts to wipe down the court or something.
Would it be a delay, or would it just be stopped and called a draw?
Why is Wojo OK with the floor situation. He should be raising hell about this. Stupid
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 25, 2017, 04:34:38 PM
Why is Providence the only team slipping? That side worse?
It was their side in the first half too. Seems convenient.
Keep the feet on their throats. No let up Warriors !
Quote from: RJax55 on February 25, 2017, 04:36:14 PM
Why is Wojo OK with the floor situation. He should be raising hell about this. Stupid
why is Cooley you mean. His teams falling all over and losing
Rowsey - you idiot.
Seriously rowsey??
Need to keep up the pressure. Let's go guys.
Just a stupid play by Rowsey and a horrible shot by Katin. WTF are you thinking.
9 point lead gone
Howard and fish!!!
Fischer can't help but fouling
So funny he keeps saying Fisher will need to learn as he matures, he's a senior
Hard to believe we're ahead in this game by reading this thread.
DW should be getting more run
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on February 25, 2017, 04:41:05 PM
Hard to believe we're ahead in this game by reading this thread.
Word.
You gotta know better.
Cartwright was out of control. Bad call
Refs are seriously AWFUL
Clock running during jjj free throws.fools
Second time the clock has ran during free throws. Amateur hour there.
These stoppages are ridiculous. Hurting us as we need fast tempo.
How many free timeouts is PC going to get? Slippery floor at beginning. Stop the game. Running clock. Stop the game.
4 FT's for the entire game is a joke. It's a combination of our perimeter play and this officiating crew. Gotta get to the line
Is Cooley getting advice from the crowd?
Got lucky there.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 25, 2017, 04:50:18 PM
Is Cooley getting advice from the crowd?
Looked like it.
Did Cooley just chastised a fan?
Providence has a history of this floor issue
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/03/17/whats-up-with-the-slippery-floor-in-providence/?utm_term=.948b43a50106
Yeah Sam!
Eff yeah!!!
Quote from: jsglow on February 25, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
Did Cooley just chastised a fan?
He was talking strategy.
Quote from: jsglow on February 25, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
Did Cooley just chastised a fan?
That's the second time he was looking up there. We can only hope an MU fan is in his head and he's more worried about that.
Stud move by KR
Katin with two huge plays
Make them pay for having us play on this effed up floor!!
I complained earlier in the year when Reinhart didn't play like a senior. I take it back after that hustle play
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 04:53:02 PM
He was talking strategy.
Was it the brother of the guy who walked on the floor in the middle of the game in 09?
Why wasn't that a backcourt btw?
Horrible call. Backcourt before he slipped. Worked out at least.
Very nice tip-in, Mr. Heldt. :)
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 25, 2017, 04:54:45 PM
Why wasn't that a backcourt btw?
Because this is a bullspit game.
Haywood is atrocious.
Let's close this mutha!!!
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 04:57:04 PM
Haywood is atrocious.
I find myself wishing for Dickey Simpkins, PU alum Dickey Simpkins no less. Thats how terrible he is.
This overly-virtuous announcer grows tiresome.
The flow of this game is ummmm not so smooth.... :o
Quote from: JWags85 on February 25, 2017, 04:58:35 PM
I find myself wishing for Dickey Simpkins, PU alum Dickey Simpkins no less. Thats how terrible he is.
+ infinity
Wonder how Elliott feels about potentially playing his home games on this court...
If Wojo was as good of a coach as Buzz he would be grabbing a towel and wiping the floor of this condensation
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 25, 2017, 05:00:00 PM
If Wojo was as good of a coach as Buzz he would be grabbing a towel and wiping the floor of this condensation
Well done.
How many games has Fischer fouled out of
Would be nice if HC could give us anything today
Clearly Haywood thinks Luke is an underclassman.
Hard to believe wojo can't find minutes for Wilson in this game
That guy had more position than Luke?
Good timeout here, just as the crowd was getting into it.
Finish this.
Fucking JJJ! Pass the goddamn ball!
Get Markus back in now...no reason to save him!
Need a few good looks and good D and we can close this out. Let's go Warriors!!!
Need Howard in asap 4 minutes left.
Put Howard back in.
With the lead, I'm worried.
LOL luke fouls out with such limited mins, and hweres SWAGGY DUUU
For those watching on TV, is this a ref-show? I'm listening to ESPN540 feed on TuneIn and it seems like a bit of home-cooking with the whistles.....or is MU D just slow
Gotta get to the line. Nore more weak fadeaways
Quote from: muwarrior97 on February 25, 2017, 05:06:00 PM
For those watching on TV, is this a ref-show? I'm listening to ESPN540 feed on TuneIn and it seems like a bit of home-cooking with the whistles.....or is MU D just slow
No home-cookin'. MU lacks lateral quickness defensively in a big way.
Of course that goes in.
Yawn
These fucking chokes
Calm down. Execute.
Breathe!!!
This team is simply unbelievable
Where's the foul?
Where's Wilson wojo?
Classic!
Dig Deep boys!!!! Finish this ish
There is not one mentally tough player on this team
Lloyds we need you.
Still doable right??
Wide open 3 and a layup rims out. Hard to complain about the last two shots.
Well we shot the load on this one.
All we need is guys to drive and kick. So let's sit DW the entire half. Awesome coaching. Let's also only use zone for spot possessions when it's the only d that's worked
It is hard to imagine a more gutless performance by any team the past three minutes. Still, there is hope.
TuneIn App couldn't take this crap anymore and lost game feed :-X
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 25, 2017, 05:11:29 PM
There is not one mentally tough player on this team
Not true.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 05:12:42 PM
Not true.
Ya maybe Howard.
This is just sad.
We meltdown every chance available
We did better when Reinhardt brought the ball up
Put that home, Sam.
F*ck.
They literally can't get even 1 fucking stop
And there not having a big man killed us. Cripes
We had to grab that loose ball
This team is bad for my heart
Great D, just couldn't finish it with a board
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on February 25, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
They literally can't get even 1 unnatural carnal knowledgeing stop
Great defense. Two centers out. Got a frickin tip.
Hit this shot and have a great flight home. Cmon Warriors!!
I feel sick.
Fucking epic meltdown
That was the fucking shot we take?
Wojo sucks. Horrible management of our d. Horrible management of personnel
What the unnatural carnal knowledge
Mutha Humpin UGGH!!!!
Sam got fouled.
Final play drawn up for Johnson? Wow. Head scratcher for me.
Damn. One more shot down the stretch and we're probably fine. :-\
Final 7+ minutes without a basket
Did you see him pass it? Maybe play was a drive and dish...
This team. Seriously. Duane doesn't play in the 2nd half. JJJ killed MU. Terrible offensively
Can't even get a shot off
Fucking great
Most painful NON-finish of the year :'( :'( :'(
This hurts. Gotta steer clear of this place for a bit.
We need a game coach. Bad.
Someone tell me again how much we're going to miss the seniors. Biggest game of the year, and they didn't show up. Maybe they'll show up for the NIT.
Not sure where to go on this one. This hurts in the worst way. Trying to stay positive but this happens time and time again.
So sick of the refs fuc king our big guys on touch bull shi t.
Fukuin RPOV FRIARS steal our Tourney spot. Hello NIT
Suck, suck, sucks.
Whatta choke job.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 05:24:44 PM
We need a game coach. Bad.
Trying to figure out how Wojo didn't make a shot for 8 min?
Thankfully 9-9 gets us to Dayton, but this hurts. No way around it. We had this game won. JJJ fucking sucks.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 25, 2017, 05:32:36 PM
Fukuin RPOV FRIARS steal our Tourney spot. Hello NIT
This one sucks. But win the next 2 and we're guaranteed a spot. Might only need one.
brutal loss, I know that was a foul to Sam, but we had this one in the bag and gave it away...the the Lord for whiskey. Have to X now.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 25, 2017, 05:33:17 PM
Thankfully 9-9 gets us to Dayton, but this hurts. No way around it. We had this game won. JJJ unnatural carnal knowledgeing sucks.
What did JJJ do wrong?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2017, 05:32:48 PM
Trying to figure out how Wojo didn't make a shot for 8 min?
look no further than him sitting one of our best penetrating ball handlers the entire second half
I don't care if this gets me banned or not. No fuckin' way we should have blown a 12 point lead and lost this goddam game. I'm talking to you wojciechowski. you goddam idiot. Ya' shoulda stayed home. I coulda' coached 'em to a loss you pretty boy. fuckin' resign. you suck!
Quote from: jonny09 on February 25, 2017, 05:27:03 PM
Not sure where to go on this one. This hurts in the worst way. Trying to stay positive but this happens time and time again.
The thing about this team is, when they're up 12 with 6 minutes to go, you aren't thinking "We got this," you are thinking, "I hope we can hang on," because you know we're going to give up a run.
We just stopped running offense for the last 5 minutes or so. Infuriating to watch.
Quote from: ATWizJr on February 25, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
I don't care if this gets me banned or not. No unnatural carnal knowledgein' way we should have blown a 12 point lead and lost this goddam game. I'm talking to you wojciechowski. you goddam idiot. Ya' shoulda stayed home. I coulda' coached 'em to a loss you pretty boy. unnatural carnal knowledgein' resign. you suck!
Not banned. But a warning. Watch your fucking language.
Game was in hand with KR bringing the ball up. Then it changed
Got scared every time JJJ got the ball in the 2nd. Prayed he wouldn't drive
I won't be crying on senior day
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 25, 2017, 05:35:04 PM
The thing about this team is, when they're up 12 with 6 minutes to go, you aren't thinking "We got this," you are thinking, "I hope we can hang on," because you know we're going to give up a run.
We just stopped running offense for the last 5 minutes or so. Infuriating to watch.
It's almost like they are so worried about running clock that they forget to run an offense.
Poor way to finish. Should have won game.
Main issues for me....
Where was Duane in the 2nd?
Howard' has to have the ball on the last possession.
I disagree. I think our chances to dance are pipe dreams at this point,and we need a point guard
with some size and a coach that can teach Defense
I can't take anymore of this the rest of the year...I need to step away the rest of the year and just hope for the best. I'm just so emotionally done at this point.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 05:39:41 PM
Main issues for me....
Where was Duane in the 2nd?
Howard' has to have the ball on the last possession.
Add to that... why such limited use of the extended zone??
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 05:40:49 PM
Add to that... why such limited use of the extended zone??
Good point.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 05:40:49 PM
Add to that... why such limited use of the extended zone??
Extended zone doesn't work so well when your centers are in deep foul trouble. Zones mean rebounding suffers, even worse when in foul trouble.
Quote from: muguru on February 25, 2017, 05:40:24 PM
I can't take anymore of this the rest of the year...I need to step away the rest of the year and just hope for the best. I'm just so emotionally done at this point.
Agreed
Quote from: Shark on February 25, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
What did JJJ do wrong?
He was horrible. Got stripped of the ball multiple times. Drove to the hoops with 20 seconds on the clock and took an ill advised shot or poor pass multiple times in the last 5 minutes. We needed him to step up, and he took a crap.
Quote from: 4or5yearstojudge on February 25, 2017, 05:42:20 PM
Extended zone doesn't work so well when your centers are in deep foul trouble. Zones mean rebounding suffers, even worse when in foul trouble.
Our big men got killed against man because we couldn't stop penetration
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 05:39:41 PM
Main issues for me....
Where was Duane in the 2nd?
Howard' has to have the ball on the last possession.
This is the issue for me, I said to a buddy of mine I was watching with that there is no way in hell the best shooter in all of college basketball does not touch the ball here, unnatural carnal knowledge
Quote from: ecompt on February 25, 2017, 05:24:59 PM
Someone tell me again how much we're going to miss the seniors. Biggest game of the year, and they didn't show up. Maybe they'll show up for the NIT.
We wont miss them. Not even a little. SOFT!!!!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2017, 05:32:48 PM
Trying to figure out how Wojo didn't make a shot for 8 min?
It would have been a risk, but I think Wojo needed to put Howard back in the game much earlier. You could sense the offense stagnating and the players getting really nervous.
And Wojo has shown that once his team loses momentum near the end of a game, he is incapable of righting the ship.
Quote from: Blueprint on February 25, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
I disagree. I think our chances to dance are pipe dreams at this point,and we need a point guard
with some size and a coach that can teach Defense
This loss sucks, no doubt. But to say our chances to dance are a pipe dream proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
I dont think Wojo is the next Wooden but there is no way in heck this is on Wojo.
Up 12 we had a ton of good looks, hauser misses a 4 footer unguarded, missses a layup n gets fouled, and has a 3 rattle out. Rinehardt misses 2-3 less than 6 footers, howard has a 3 rattle in and out, jjj misses 2 12 footers n an uncontested layup.
Then we have literally no true 4 on the squad and bith 5s are fouled out.
Not gonna say the players choked bt if they hit a shot or two and they win. And they were theowing bigs at the rim defended by our guards. Its unfortunate and really really sucks but not sure what else Wojo could have done
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:46:25 PM
I dont think Wojo is the next Wooden but there is no way in heck this is on Wojo.
Up 12 we had a ton of good looks, hauser misses a 4 footer unguarded, missses a layup n gets fouled, and has a 3 rattle out. Rinehardt misses 2-3 less than 6 footers, howard has a 3 rattle in and out, jjj misses 2 12 footers n an uncontested layup.
Then we have literally no true 4 on the squad and bith 5s are fouled out.
Not gonna say the players choked bt if they hit a shot or two and they win. And they were theowing bigs at the rim defended by our guards. Its unfortunate and really really sucks but not sure what else Wojo could have done
I agree with the MrSK that doesn't just hate on Luke.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:46:25 PM
I dont think Wojo is the next Wooden but there is no way in heck this is on Wojo.
Up 12 we had a ton of good looks, hauser misses a 4 footer unguarded, missses a layup n gets fouled, and has a 3 rattle out. Rinehardt misses 2-3 less than 6 footers, howard has a 3 rattle in and out, jjj misses 2 12 footers n an uncontested layup.
Then we have literally no true 4 on the squad and bith 5s are fouled out.
Not gonna say the players choked bt if they hit a shot or two and they win. And they were theowing bigs at the rim defended by our guards. Its unfortunate and really really sucks but not sure what else Wojo could have done
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.
This game tho is a perfect illustration of how badly our seniors have let us down. Seniors with mental and physical toughness will their teams to wins. Our seniors, i believe without fail, have wilted in these situations time after time this year. If one looks at all our heartbreaking losses this year, our seniors have either been the reason or been no where to be found. Really unfortunate but they simply are not winners.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:53:35 PM
This game tho is a perfect illustration of how badly our seniors have let us down. Seniors with mental and physical toughness will their teams to wins. Our seniors, i believe without fail, have wilted in these situations time after time this year. If one looks at all our heartbreaking losses this year, our seniors have either been the reason or been no where to be found. Really unfortunate but they simply are not winners.
Not a great game for them admittedly, but your obsession with them is really odd. Did they double team your missus or something?
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on February 25, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.
I agree.
And it wasn't like Providence went into a furious press and caused 3 straight turnovers and hit a bunch of 3's to close the game in a minute. This was a slow collapse where the air was leaking out of the balloon slowly but surely over the last five minutes and either Wojo doesn't know what to do or the players are just not mentally tough and no matter what Wojo tells them, they can't execute due to nerves.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on February 25, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.
Players gotta make plays, those games are often reffered to as "senior games". Where ur seniors carry the team. Ours disappear of screw up continuously. They are mental marshmallows it suck but they disappear and then its freshamn and sophomores trying to do what our seniors cant
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:57:10 PM
Players gotta make plays, those games are often reffered to as "senior games". Where ur seniors carry the team. Ours disappear of screw up continuously. They are mental marshmallows it suck but they disappear and then its freshamn and sophomores trying to do what our seniors cant
If you think wojo didn't fail as a coach today you're nuts. That's not to say the collapse is entirely on him, but he failed today
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 25, 2017, 05:55:26 PM
Not a great game for them admittedly, but your obsession with them is really odd. Did they double team your missus or something?
Not at all. But all the complaining and gnashing of teeth and blaming wojo and looking for blame when all one needs to do is look at our seniors. A team is only as good as its seniors. I keep bringing it up because people keep trying to figure out why we lose or find blame. When its incredibly simple.
Anyone still think Fischer is better than Heldt?
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 05:59:05 PM
If you think wojo didn't fail as a coach today you're nuts. That's not to say the collapse is entirely on him, but he failed today
To be fair, the whole team failed today. A game that should have been won.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on February 25, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.
It's on the players and the coach.
How about earlier in the game when we had a 9-10 point lead and Rowsey tries to inbound it off the defenders backside and Katin fires up an awful shot on the next trip down? Those hurt too.
This brings the count of losses after double-digit, under 10 minutes leads to what - 4 now? Sickening.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2017, 06:02:59 PM
To be fair, the whole team failed today. A game that should have been won.
This is the truest thing written in any of these threads.
This loss hurts a lot after being up 12. Ratz blank blank.
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 25, 2017, 06:04:23 PM
This is the truest thing written in any of these threads.
Yes, and when a team fails it's the leader that has to take responsibility.
Quote from: 1SE on February 25, 2017, 06:04:00 PM
This brings the count of losses after double-digit, under 10 minutes leads to what - 4 now? Sickening.
Today, Butler, Pitt, and .... were we ever up 10 at Seton Hall? Feels like I'm missing one.
Quote from: 1SE on February 25, 2017, 06:07:52 PM
Yes, and when a team fails it's the leader that has to take responsibility.
This is also the truth. Preach.
Can someone tell me what happened? We were up 9 with 4 and change to play. Then we took off and I just got back online now. WTF?
Same here. I went to mass and we're up 7 with 3:46 or something to go. WTF Happened?
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 25, 2017, 06:10:07 PM
Can someone tell me what happened? We were up 9 with 4 and change to play. Then we took off and I just got back online now. WTF?
Not much, they just kept scoring and we just kept not scoring until they took a one point lead, then it went back and forth for about 90 seconds but we missed on our turn to take the lead with 3 seconds to go.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 25, 2017, 06:10:07 PM
Can someone tell me what happened? We were up 9 with 4 and change to play. Then we took off and I just got back online now. WTF?
This season happened.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 25, 2017, 06:10:07 PM
Can someone tell me what happened? We were up 9 with 4 and change to play. Then we took off and I just got back online now. WTF?
Didn't make a basket. A few turnovers. No calls while PC got every calls. Missed a few wide open shots. Some classic JJJ I'll advised drives. The whole enchilada.
Day drinking is much more fun when you win.
MU was able to get the first shot stop a couple of times at the end,but gave up the offensive rebound tip twice.Rebounding on the defensive end is a big problem.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 06:08:46 PM
Today, Butler, Pitt, and .... were we ever up 10 at Seton Hall? Feels like I'm missing one.
We blew a 10 point lead late in the home game against SHU, but we managed to pull that one out in OT (which I never saw coming). I don't think we had 10 point lead at SHU but I think we were up three with less than a minute and just did nothing right to finish that game.
Lost the game at Seton Hall because we could not get the rebound off two missed free throws.We didn't score a basket for seven minutes today but we still win if we get the rebound off there two misses at the end
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 25, 2017, 06:17:01 PM
We blew a 10 point lead late in the home game against SHU, but we managed to pull that one out in OT (which I never saw coming). I don't think we had 10 point lead at SHU but I think we were up three with less than a minute and just did nothing right to finish that game.
Were up 6 with less than a minute left against shu at shu
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
Were up 6 with less than a minute left against shu at shu
Thats the one
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
Were up 6 with less than a minute left against shu at shu
I just looked it up. The biggest lead we had that game was 4. We took that lead with 2:50 to go and SHU cut it to 2 with 2:32 to go. But make no mistake, we gagged that one. Go look at the game log on ESPN. We had a 3 point lead with 38 seconds to go but never rebounded a missed SHU free throw (and there were a few) after that nor did we manage even to take a shot.
Plays like Markus losing his dribble at the half court line to a stationary player or JJJ missing an uncontested layup
Anyone seen a link to Wojos presser from yesterday?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 26, 2017, 04:12:35 PM
Anyone seen a link to Wojos presser from yesterday?
Both coaches
http://friarbasketball.com/2017/02/26/post-game-press-conferences-marquette/
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 26, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Both coaches
http://friarbasketball.com/2017/02/26/post-game-press-conferences-marquette/
Thanks. Not sure I have ever seen Wojo more pissed off in an interview.