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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: dolly4512 on February 11, 2017, 12:01:11 PM

Title: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: dolly4512 on February 11, 2017, 12:01:11 PM
Toughness and rebounding. These kids are really clicking.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: wadesworld on February 11, 2017, 12:07:36 PM
Wojo is outcoaching JTIII?

Toughness and rebounding are adjustments that can be made in game?
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: GGGG on February 11, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
This has everything to do with a shortcoming in personnel. That is ultimately on Wojo but nothing to do with coaching. Not enough length.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2017, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 11, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
This has everything to do with a shortcoming in personnel. That is ultimately on Wojo but nothing to do with coaching. Not enough length.

Not enough length, not enough strength. Also, not enough quickness, not enough athletic ability.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: skianth16 on February 11, 2017, 12:49:57 PM
We're talking about a Georgetown team that is barely above .500 and is getting dominated in conference play. If you think we don't have enough athleticism and toughness to compete against this team, then who could we ever beat in a power conference?

I think those arguments are garbage. We're not outmatched, we're just getting outplayed right now. There was a comment earlier in the first half that we're running plays but not playing offense, and I think that's the problem today. Too much time spent going through the motions and not enough competitiveness.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: Big Papi on February 11, 2017, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 11, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
This has everything to do with a shortcoming in personnel. That is ultimately on Wojo but nothing to do with coaching. Not enough length.

We are consistently outcoached and in comparing quickness and physicality of other Big East teams, one can definitely say that Wojo is not recruiting the right players.  Add them both up and it is a recipe for disaster. 

It is looking like Villanova fell asleep and gifted us a win and Creighton was trying to figure out how to play without their best player.  We are clearly not a tournament team and might finish 8th or 9th in our conference in year 3 of the Wojo era.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: Afroman on February 11, 2017, 01:07:48 PM
Steve Wojodukiet
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: MUfan12 on February 11, 2017, 01:14:44 PM
This is what happens when University leadership requires the program to bring in choir boys.

Soft, soft, soft.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: GoldenZebra on February 11, 2017, 01:15:26 PM
Im dreading to see what this place is gonna be like when Xavier beats us down at home in a week.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: esotericmindguy on February 11, 2017, 01:47:50 PM
It's 100% personnel. People on this board are morons. You have Reinhardt and Hauser playing PF in the big east and guards that weight MAYBE 180 pounds. They got destroyed in the lane today. How is that coaching?

Same guys were losing their mind over the Shaka hire, he's been worse at Texas. Way more talent in Texas. I'm excited about the young guys on the team, two really good freshman and a solid defender in Cheatham. Froling can fill fischer's spot without much problem and finally some PF help with Eke and John.

Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: tower912 on February 11, 2017, 01:52:25 PM
Remember 3 months ago when there was concern about finding minutes for everyone?  The arc of this season was cast when wojo failed to land a 4.   Simply not enough size to compete when we aren't raining 3s.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: GGGG on February 11, 2017, 01:52:56 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 11, 2017, 01:14:44 PM
This is what happens when University leadership requires the program to bring in choir boys.

Soft, soft, soft.


False dichotomy
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 11, 2017, 01:47:50 PM
It's 100% personnel. People on this board are morons. You have Reinhardt and Hauser playing PF in the big east and guards that weight MAYBE 180 pounds. They got destroyed in the lane today. How is that coaching?

Same guys were losing their mind over the Shaka hire, he's been worse at Texas. Way more talent in Texas. I'm excited about the young guys on the team, two really good freshman and a solid defender in Cheatham. Froling can fill fischer's spot without much problem and finally some PF help with Eke and John.

A bit blunt, but agreed. We can't defend the paint with slow footed Luke as our only big body. Next year's added length will help the defense. Hopefully more physical maturity for our youngsters, and Duane and Rowsey provide senior leadership. Not at all ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but this has been a frustrating couple weeks.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: skianth16 on February 11, 2017, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 11, 2017, 01:47:50 PM
I'm excited about the young guys on the team, two really good freshman and a solid defender in Cheatham. Froling can fill fischer's spot without much problem and finally some PF help with Eke and John.

The fact that this sentiment is popular on the boards shows how far we've fallen in the Wojo era. Years 1 and 2 I can understand as a rebuild. But we're 2 weeks out from beating 2 top 10 teams, and we're already trying to find positives for next year. We should be talking about seeding. We should be 3rd or 4th in the conference. And we should be looking forward to another resume boost next weekend against X. But instead, we're talking about Nov. 2017. This is not the way this season should be winding down.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: Big Papi on February 11, 2017, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 11, 2017, 01:47:50 PM
It's 100% personnel. People on this board are morons. You have Reinhardt and Hauser playing PF in the big east and guards that weight MAYBE 180 pounds. They got destroyed in the lane today. How is that coaching?

Its either coaching or recruiting.  Pick one or both but its all on Wojo.
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: NickelDimer on February 11, 2017, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 11, 2017, 01:47:50 PM
It's 100% personnel. People on this board are morons. You have Reinhardt and Hauser playing PF in the big east and guards that weight MAYBE 180 pounds. They got destroyed in the lane today. How is that coaching?

Same guys were losing their mind over the Shaka hire, he's been worse at Texas. Way more talent in Texas. I'm excited about the young guys on the team, two really good freshman and a solid defender in Cheatham. Froling can fill fischer's spot without much problem and finally some PF help with Eke and John.
Oh the irony
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: Warrior_2002 on February 11, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on February 11, 2017, 01:56:00 PM
The fact that this sentiment is popular on the boards shows how far we've fallen in the Wojo era. Years 1 and 2 I can understand as a rebuild. But we're 2 weeks out from beating 2 top 10 teams, and we're already trying to find positives for next year. We should be talking about seeding. We should be 3rd or 4th in the conference. And we should be looking forward to another resume boost next weekend against X. But instead, we're talking about Nov. 2017. This is not the way this season should be winding down.

Amen...very frustrating.  Hate to give up on a coach in year 3 without fully having his full program in place but man this is frustrating. 
Title: Re: Wojo outcoaching again
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 11, 2017, 02:27:15 PM
Really disappointing game and season.  Worst defense ever.  We don't defend the rim.  And, we didn't have one fast break basket.  What the hell is going on?
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