KR really showed some leadership tonight. During the second half, each timeout after the team broke the huddle, Katin got the players on the court together for their own huddle, and he was doing all of the talking. Obviously don't know what was said, but he was clearly the man in charge out on the floor tonight.
Katin has been excellent for several weeks now.
There is lots of Scoopy crow-eating going on tonight, and Katin should be beneficiary of much of it.
It seems small, but I liked when Katin blocked an after the whistle three pointer at the rim. Liked the attitude. No easy buckets! Not even ones that don't count!
After Sam's 3, Kaitin looked right up into sec 200 and screamed "MARQUETTE MOTHER
F&$@CKERS!!!!"
I got goose bumps. What a night.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 24, 2017, 11:11:19 PM
After Sam's 3, Kaitin looked right up into sec 200 and screamed "MARQUETTE MOTHER
F&$@CKERS!!!!"
I got goose bumps. What a night.
Yep. Special
Stepping up just when we need it. Great senior leadership.
Him screaming that is senior leadership? His great play has coincided Marquette's run, but he doesn't strike me as a leader. Have no issue with it, but don't see it.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 24, 2017, 11:11:19 PM
After Sam's 3, Kaitin looked right up into sec 200 and screamed "MARQUETTE MOTHER
F&$@CKERS!!!!"
I got goose bumps. What a night.
That play was a perfect example of how he's embraced his role--shot clock was winding down and he got the ball and it looked like he was just going to force something up like he did often early in the season. Instead, he dishes to an open hauser, nylon. That's when it felt like something special was happening.
I don't have the posting history to show it, but I was definitely one of those people saying "get off my court" every time he got the ball for like his first ten marquette games. He's had a massive turnaround and I couldn't possibly be happier about it.
Katin and Luke have both led the last two games. Thanks for stepping up, gents.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 24, 2017, 11:22:06 PM
Him screaming that is senior leadership? His great play has coincided Marquette's run, but he doesn't strike me as a leader. Have no issue with it, but don't see it.
Then you are not paying attention.
Hitting big shots, making the extra open pass, telling teammates where to be on def, sets attitude with other teams players, hitting really big shots, getting teammates focused during timeouts, explaining game scenarios before the inbounds, running point, 92% FTs, etc.
You can call it what you like, but that is a leader on the court.
i was/am still worried about his discipline-knowing when and when not to chuck. is he feeling it? does someone have a better look? is someone else hot at the moment? yes, i understand that good shooters shoot their way out of slumps, but a "leader" will have a good mental checklist review and a sense for appropriate play, all in a milli-second
just hoping that katin is here for all the right reasons-for us, rather than to poke usc in the eye-forget about them-you are a warrior now-go forth my son and conquer :D
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 25, 2017, 06:33:13 AM
i was/am still worried about his discipline-knowing when and when not to chuck. is he feeling it? does someone have a better look? is someone else hot at the moment? yes, i understand that good shooters shoot their way out of slumps, but a "leader" will have a good mental checklist review and a sense for appropriate play, all in a milli-second
just hoping that katin is here for all the right reasons-for us, rather than to poke usc in the eye-forget about them-you are a warrior now-go forth my son and conquer :D
He's here for Marquette, motherfu4@er!
Wheres Sand-Knit and duanewade?
He found his groove lately. Next year we are really going to miss this guy..
Karin, Duane and Rowsey all show leadership and toughness. And, Sam for a freshman is so calm and collected. Starting to love this team more and more.
The shot he made with 1:50 left was clutch, cutting the lead from three to five, after the turnover. And it was a really tough shot.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 25, 2017, 06:43:49 AM
Wheres Sand-Knit and duanewade?
Honestly...and this might be a conspiracy theory...I think they are here. I've long thought that both of them (and some others) are second accounts for seemingly more reserved posters. That way they can vent and troll without worrying about having to eventually eat crow. No idea who, just seemed like a possibility.
Quote from: MU82 on January 25, 2017, 06:41:10 AM
He's here for Marquette, motherfu4@er!
come on man! was that necessary? really? just when i'm thinking you aren't as bad as they tell me...
i'm a fan of katin first, but he does have a little bit of "me" in him(note his post game interview) while trying to be grateful of his "higher power" and that's ok. i fully understand that there were A LOT of emotions flowing and very rightly so. i have noticed a growth in katin since game 1. i'm just trying to avoid the big highs and lows on players(and coaches). people get all geeked out of shape by episodes. this was one of the greatest moments these guys have felt to date and is a reward for all their hard work and perseverance through some very probable negative talk(scoop?)
Quote from: marquette09 on January 25, 2017, 08:42:45 AM
The shot he made with 1:50 left was clutch, cutting the lead from three to five, after the turnover. And it was a really tough shot.
I agree. That was the shot after another lazy pass by JJ. Down 5 and he misses would have been a different last minute.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 25, 2017, 08:52:22 AM
come on man! was that necessary? really? just when i'm thinking you aren't as bad as they tell me...
i'm a fan of katin first, but he does have a little bit of "me" in him(note his post game interview) while trying to be grateful of his "higher power" and that's ok. i fully understand that there were A LOT of emotions flowing and very rightly so. i have noticed a growth in katin since game 1. i'm just trying to avoid the big highs and lows on players(and coaches). people get all geeked out of shape by episodes. this was one of the greatest moments these guys have felt to date and is a reward for all their hard work and perseverance through some very probable negative talk(scoop?)
MU82's MF'er comment was a joke, not directed at you. Katin was dropping lots of MF'ers during the comeback I guess.
What about his post game interview made him think he was about him more than the team?
We've never really gotten the whole Katin story, hope he has more success where someone will do something in-depth on him. Gottlieb had a tweet that referenced his self-inflicted wounds (https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/824252637717692416), with some follow up comments about his "circle" and getting shopped around while still at UNLV. Lots of references to God in his post-game. Seems like part of the reason he came here was the connection between the Belmont Shore program and Wojo. Just seems like someone who has a good story to tell.
When Katin hit that three, I re-watched it about 3 or 4 times. If you slow it down just enough, you can see him mouth the word, "Kobe!"
It took him time to acclimate and for the coaches to acclimate to him. And he was injured. Now he was healthy and everybody is used to each other. The last two games, he has led. Apparently, he has it in him. Does this mean he will never force up another dumb 3? No. He is evolving into a leader AND a conscience-free gunner. Ok.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 25, 2017, 10:24:00 AM
I agree. That was the shot after another lazy pass by JJ. Down 5 and he misses would have been a different last minute.
That was bigger than the 3 in my opinion. That was a BIGTIME make, and was much needed after the TO to go back down 5.
Also, after he hit the tying 3, he ran into the student section and was hugging people. Not mean mugging at half court or self aggrandizing. He was loving the atmosphere and the moment. Amazed at his turnaround after the first few months. I'm far more worried about Rowsey and JJJ taking stupid shots than Katin at this point.
Quote from: g0lden3agle on January 25, 2017, 10:30:51 AM
MU82's MF'er comment was a joke, not directed at you. Katin was dropping lots of MF'ers during the comeback I guess.
What about his post game interview made him think he was about him more than the team?
I wasn't really sure, but as I still read it it, I have my doubts, but whatever...I just thought it was weird.
As for Katie's post game, I was really pulling for him as I was very happy for not only him, but wojo and the whole team. I haven't gone back to listen to it again, but my first impressions were that he started out heavy with the "me" stuff, but then leveled off. Don't get me wrong. to come out after playing one of the biggest games of your life, playing a CRUCIAL role, impromptu before a national audience ain't easy. He's fine. I do like how he tried to give some credit to our "higher power" as we still are MARQUETTE
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 25, 2017, 06:28:25 AM
Then you are not paying attention.
Hitting big shots, making the extra open pass, telling teammates where to be on def, sets attitude with other teams players, hitting really big shots, getting teammates focused during timeouts, explaining game scenarios before the inbounds, running point, 92% FTs, etc.
You can call it what you like, but that is a leader on the court.
You forgot wanting the ball in his hands at the end of a tie game.
If the definition of a leader is a guy who will hit huge free throws and be an absolute sniper in crunch time then yes he is a leader. It took awhile but he found a role as our point forward. WE are dangerous (offensively).
GO MU
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 25, 2017, 06:43:49 AM
Wheres Sand-Knit and duanewade?
Sand-Knut briefly poked his asinine head up to-- you guessed it-- rip on Luke and JJJ this morning, post-win. He loves the new post-fact world.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 25, 2017, 01:10:21 PM
I wasn't really sure, but as I still read it it, I have my doubts, but whatever...I just thought it was weird.
I'm pretty sure it was. This was mentioned earlier in the thread
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 24, 2017, 11:11:19 PM
After Sam's 3, Kaitin looked right up into sec 200 and screamed "MARQUETTE MOTHER
F&$@CKERS!!!!"
I got goose bumps. What a night.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 25, 2017, 01:10:21 PM
I wasn't really sure, but as I still read it it, I have my doubts, but whatever...I just thought it was weird.
Did you read the thread? See TAMU's post, beat me to it.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 24, 2017, 11:11:19 PM
After Sam's 3, Kaitin looked right up into sec 200 and screamed "MARQUETTE MOTHER
F&$@CKERS!!!!"
I got goose bumps. What a night.
ohhhh, this thread-i did not see the correlation-i saw the thread, then later, after i put my 2 cents in and then saw MU's post...my apologies to MU82 and thank you for clarifying for me.
Interesting article from Gottlieb about his transfer from UNLV -> USC back in 2013.
http://www.cbssports.com/general/news/katin-reinhardt-on-leaving-unlv-i-like-to-pass/
Basically feels most comfortable when he's given an opportunity to create ala Jimmer. Definitely has been successful this past week in the lead role with the ball in his hands, both scoring and making the right pass when available.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 25, 2017, 03:52:45 PM
ohhhh, this thread-i did not see the correlation-i saw the thread, then later, after i put my 2 cents in and then saw MU's post...my apologies to MU82 and thank you for clarifying for me.
No sweat, rocket. But hey, you gotta be quick-witted to keep up with us old, bald, Jew-turned-atheists.
Katin is a stud. He went to one of the best basketball high schools in the country and learned the fundamentals while playing against top flight competition. I saw him play many times as a young man so for me his development into a team leader is not unexpected. Remember he has only played half a season with these teammates. What do you expect? That he come in and take charge from day one? That's not how real leadership emerges. Anyhow, MU is figuring things out and playing good ball. I'm excited to see them continue to progress and play great ball in March. Make it to the NCAAs and our Warriors will not be an easy out.
SoCal
Quote from: SoCalEagle on January 26, 2017, 12:39:06 PM
Katin is a stud. He went to one of the best basketball high schools in the country and learned the fundamentals while playing against top flight competition. I saw him play many times as a young man so for me his development into a team leader is not unexpected. Remember he has only played half a season with these teammates. What do you expect? That he come in and take charge from day one? That's not how real leadership emerges. Anyhow, MU is figuring things out and playing good ball. I'm excited to see them continue to progress and play great ball in March. Make it to the NCAAs and our Warriors will not be an easy out.
SoCal
Oh SoCal ... coming onto Scoop and trotting out tired, old silliness such as logic and reason? Some people never learn.
Quote from: MU82 on January 26, 2017, 11:56:54 AM
No sweat, rocket. But hey, you gotta be quick-witted to keep up with us old, bald, Jew-turned-atheists.
May God bless ya there, MU. The adrenaline was running thru me like the dude needing to call 911 after 4 hours on a veee agray buzz. Hard to think straight either way, A'na?