Arrrrh! Pirates shiver at the mention of the Warriors. Arrrrrhhh!
Hanni breaks out of his funk for SOTG.
GO WARRIORS!!!!!
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Markus picking up his dribble too soon against the press.
I wish Sam would have hot that first one. Need him to get it going today.
KR with two threes in a row!!!
Good to see Katin hit his first two. Haani's struggling early so it'll be nice to see others step up.
HOT HAND!
KR for three again!
KR for his FOURTH trey!
Keep shooting Katin! Have a game!!
Me likeeeee
...and wojo and the bitch love it....
That's what I heard
I have been a KR hater but if he shoots like that I will be way happy to jump on the band wagon!!!
Great finsh by JJJ. Then a Matt foul. Fouls might come back to bite us.
Talk about runs...
Hall 7-2
MU 20-5
Hall 13-4
Heard him call it
always concerned about shooting in the other guys gym....but we're alright.
Defense intensity lacking and no ball movement. Sam needs a breather.
Bad last 8 minutes, especially turnovers. Fix it in the 2H and we can take this.
One observation: Matt Heldt makes Chris Grimm look like Bill Walton.
Fisher and Cheatham need to show uo
Continued to keep defensive focus. We'll need to find another way to score since Reinhardt probably won't be unconscious in the second half. Only four fouls on us, and TWO on them (one offensive) - partly how we played it, though a few bumps and reaches that are often whistles.
My goodness, what terrible defense and shot selection last few minutes. Then two Hauser turnovers, but man is he poised as a freshman.
Too many bunny misses, too many jackup threes, and Cheatham needs to get it together offensively.
Katlin bailed them out in first. Not bad to be down only one when everyone except KR not on their game.
Quote from: chapman on January 01, 2017, 04:12:12 PM
Continued to keep defensive focus. We'll need to find another way to score since Reinhardt probably won't be unconscious in the second half. Only four fouls on us, and TWO on them (one offensive) - partly how we played it, though a few bumps and reaches that are often whistles.
Agree. Other side is were only down 1 when Katin is the only player that played well offensively. I can handle that. Keep doubling Delgado. Other guys need to step up and hit shots
TO's and Delgado and missed close shots.
solve these and we're good.
Quote from: MUBigDance on January 01, 2017, 04:15:36 PM
TO's and Delgado and missed close shots.
solve these and we're good.
Not going to solve Delgado with Mr Softee in the middle for MU.
Glad to be trailing by one. Willard said they just need to keep doing what they're doing. I feel like we adjust better from behind. Get the rest of the shooters going and we got this.
One time Warriors.
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 01, 2017, 04:18:00 PM
Not going to solve Delgado with Mr Softee in the middle for MU.
Delgado isn't going to get solved by many - he is averaging a double double after all.
Luke is screwed on Scoop. He absolutely needs to get his O going more but he's either 'soft' or getting crucified for fouling here.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 04:19:57 PM
Glad to be trailing by one. Willard said they just need to keep doing what they're doing. I feel like we adjust better from behind. Get the rest of the shooters going and we got this.
Yes. Without KR, who is 5 for 7, MU is just 8 for 24 from field. SH shooting 50%.
JJJ and Cheatham keep driving and missing hoping to get foul called, not working, but JJJ had 5 steals.
Delgado loves playing against fischer
The numbers over the last couple years have been unbelivably good for delgado n bad for fischer
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 04:19:57 PM
Glad to be trailing by one. Willard said they just need to keep doing what they're doing. I feel like we adjust better from behind. Get the rest of the shooters going and we got this.
I feel like we are getting to the hoop but a bunch of layups' are just not falling in. If Even Steven applies those should start rolling in, in the second half.
Howard getting exposed. Step up Rowsey.
Luke is not the issue today. Our guards are.
We cannot stop them inside and their bit of full court pressure screwin with our O
We're in trouble. Rushed on offense. Can't get a stop.
Time to pull the plug on Haanif. He is a one-trick pony who is no match for any guard in the BE.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 01, 2017, 04:30:50 PM
Howard getting exposed. Step up Rowsey.
Luke is not the issue today. Our guards are.
Frontline is. Just layups and o-boards for SH right now. Need a badass up front to knock them on butts.
How was Rodriguez even remotely set, threw himself into JJ.
Idk what is about Hall but they own us.
We can't score on their length
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
How was Rodriguez even remotely set, threw himself into JJ.
i think if JJ isn't cradling the ball it goes as a SH foul
Only down 4, win-able if we get some of our O going
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 01, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Idk what is about Hall but they own us.
We can't score on their length
We led most of the first and are what, down two possessions? A bit early to toss the towel in.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 01, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Idk what is about Hall but they own us.
We can't score on their length
We're 2-3 vs. SHU since Wojo took over. Pretty sure that'll be 2-4 after today. But they don't own us.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 04:38:04 PM
We led most of the first and are what, down two possessions? A bit early to toss the towel in.
Didn't say it was over lol
Just said their length seems to really destroy our offense
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on January 01, 2017, 04:38:52 PM
We're 2-3 vs. SHU since Wojo took over. Pretty sure that'll be 2-4 after today. But they don't own us.
True but that 1 game in BeT they simply didn't try. Completely threw in the towel.
Doing better than expected getting the defensive rebounds. Can't be even in the turnover battle.
Playing zone defense.
JJ going one on three in the paint. SMDH.
Hope Sam finds his stroke.
We are in trouble here.
Gotta win the return game in a week
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 01, 2017, 04:40:58 PM
True but that 1 game in BeT they simply didn't try. Completely threw in the towel.
Can't disagree with that. And Carlino was hitting everything.
If this announcer says true point guard one more time....
Jjj needs to play a lot smarter
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on January 01, 2017, 04:45:23 PM
Hope Sam finds his stroke.
We are in trouble here.
Gotta win the return game in a week
wait...didn't you just say 'i didn't say it was over' about 5 minutes ago?
turn off your TV
Quote from: nyg on January 01, 2017, 04:33:26 PM
Frontline is. Just layups and o-boards for SH right now. Need a badass up front to knock them on butts.
Our bigs are being forced to go 3 on one as their guards break down our perimeter D every time. Not much they can do. Fischer has had a solid game.
JJJ is back to bad JJ. Trying to get back an 8 point deficit in 1 possession. Doesn't work that way.
Quote from: chapman on January 01, 2017, 04:41:04 PM
Doing better than expected getting the defensive rebounds. Can't be even in the turnover battle.
Yup, need to win the TO battle and we aren't. We also have frustrating JJJ today.
For as badly as they are playing they are still in this. Someone needs to step up and make some shots...JJJ needs to stop doing dumb things.
FINALLY!!!
Hauser #allthelittlethings
ND sucks
Frustrating on defense. Wojo says "no layups, foul them" and they give up two layups with no fouling then Fischer commits a foul on the offensive end.
Got to put them on the line when they have a easy shot. Especially their crapping shooting bigs.
JJ's stats aren't going to look bad, again, but he is not having a good game.
That Howard kid shoots the ball pretty well.
I love Howard so much
Play zone,don't let Delgado beat us
That was smart, smart play. Beautiful lay off by Cheatham.
Smart Sam. Love that kid.
I swear SH has gotten away with 4-5 travels
Pick n roll for a dunk n fischer cant catch
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 01, 2017, 05:02:59 PM
I swear SH has gotten away with 4-5 travels
Refs swallowing their whistles on both ends today. That is good for Hall and bad for us.
Really JJJ?
This one of those games,when Jjj get the ball,I just chringe
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 01, 2017, 05:05:20 PM
Refs swallowing their whistles on both ends today. That is good for Hall and bad for us.
+20
Howard and Hauser hitting some big shots. Would love to see our senior play more mature than them (that's you JJJ).
Get tough one time Warriors. Biggest game of the year.
The number of easily handled balls we lost today is frustrating.
I love lol lol
Nice couple sequences there. This team can frustrate, but boy can they be fun too. Let's get this one.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 05:08:28 PM
The number of easily handled balls we lost today is frustrating.
Story of my life.
Too...many.....layups
Luke no.....then picks up 4.
Oh no, another miss by Cheatham. Those could have done it......
This is shaping up to be the one that got away. Gotta finish those bunnies.
Cheat and Fish just plain chokedefinition today
Very clear to me that the issue with Cheatham is a mental one
No Hatin' on Katin today.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on January 01, 2017, 05:14:49 PM
Very clear to me that the issue with Cheatham is a mental one
Agree. Seems to have lost all confidence
Rebound now!!!
Don't like the foul there, but if you're gonna foul, gotta stop the shot.
My God, this is mentally weak team.
MU is beyond pathetic.
I just flipped knew it Damn!!!!!!
Terrible rebounding. Just terrible.
Just throw the game away. We all know you want to
BOX OUT DAMN IT!!!!
They showed such heart and then that...
Fisher was at free throw line
FFS. No words.
Just unbelievably bad.
Jesus H, JJJ. Could you play more out of control?
Incredibly poor finish on both ends
He further all game and you let him decide it nice
Saw that TO coming a mile away
Why do we follow this garbage ass team? Holy crap I just lost years off my life
They still can't finish out games...
Don't even know who I want shooting this. Probably Howard? Terrible 20 seconds.
Again our seniors play like freshmen.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 05:21:41 PM
Don't even know who I want shooting this. Probably Howard? Terrible 20 seconds.
Rowsey.
Hope Howard or Hauser take th last shot.
Did Buzz draw that one up?
Freakin choke.
Up by 3 with 30.
Sheesh
This program is in the crapper.
This program is in trouble
Refs don't call fouls either way and then took the game over with two awful calls. But Fisch and Cheatham deserved to lose.
Embarrassing. Absolutely shameful how that game ended. What a joke.
Had a funny feeling offensive rebounding would cost us the game. It did.
Missed layups killer too.
Better team for 39:30. SMDH.
Wow, we gave that one away.
Freshman should not be handling point at that time. Right into a trap
Wow. Just a total f'n meltdown in the last minute. Every bounce, every mistakes, everything that could go wrong did. Jeez.
This is hilarious. Just a couple days ago some people were praising this team for closing out games, and the same people are calling them soft and unable to close out games. What a fickle bunch.
My wife knows nothing about basketball and was barely watching. At the end of the game she says, "Sloppy."
This one is squarely on the man at the top. Just horrific coaching at the end of this one.
Can't get a stinkin rebound. Outscored 6-0 in the 20 second span. Then can't get a shot off. Brutal.
Quote from: ecompt on January 01, 2017, 05:23:24 PM
Refs don't call fouls either way and then took the game over with two awful calls. But Fisch and Cheatham deserved to lose.
Refs didnt lose the game. Not hitting bunnies and not rebounding lost the game.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on January 01, 2017, 05:22:08 PM
Again our seniors play like freshmen.
I will be so happy to see Johnson graduate. By far my least favorite player. All his good things are so outweighed by his mistakes. And the mistakes are correctable, but he does them over and over again. Unreal.
Quote from: Afroman on January 01, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
My wife knows nothing about basketball and was barely watching. At the end of the game she says, "Sloppy."
This one is squarely on the man at the top. Just horrific coaching at the end of this one.
What? I have been a Wojo critic but you need to delineate what he did wrong at the end.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 01, 2017, 05:24:54 PM
Can't get a stinkin rebound. Outscored 6-0 in the 20 second span. Then can't get a shot off. Brutal.
Seton Hall players wanted it more. Players fighting for the ball. MU players standing around and feeling bad for themselves.
End of the day, Seton Hall pushed MU out of the way and took the win.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 01, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
What? I have been a Wojo critic but you need to delineate what he did wrong at the end.
Out rebounded once during a free throw. Okay
2nd time: crap needs to hit the fan
3rd time: Benchings.
Quote from: Afroman on January 01, 2017, 05:24:34 PMThis one is squarely on the man at the top. Just horrific coaching at the end of this one.
I couldn't disagree more. Wojo didn't miss bunnies. Wojo didn't fail to box out. He pulled the right strings and had us in position to win. The players didn't hold up their end.
Agree. Did I miss him on the floor? Did the fact that Jjj lost that rebound fall on Would? And the layups?
Classic game to steal on the road,and they failed
Wojo did a lot of good things in this game. This is on the guys on the floor failing to secure rebounds and then committing dumb fouls.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on January 01, 2017, 05:27:30 PM
Out rebounded once during a free throw. Okay
2nd time: crap needs to hit the fan
3rd time: Benchings.
You are saying getting out-rebounded on the free throw line is a coaching mistake? Bring in Heldt? Maybe. Really don't think that is a coaching issue.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on January 01, 2017, 05:27:30 PM
Out rebounded once during a free throw. Okay
2nd time: crap needs to hit the fan
3rd time: Benchings.
And put in...?
Rowsey? To help rebounding? Heldt? In a 1 point game?
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 05:28:22 PM
I couldn't disagree more. Wojo didn't miss bunnies. Wojo didn't fail to box out. He pulled the right strings and had us in position to win. The players didn't hold up their end.
Yup; I've been critical of wojo at times but this isn't on him. He put them in a position to win on the road and the boys just choked, we showed plenty of heart fighting back to take the lead but lack toughness.
Quote from: Afroman on January 01, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
My wife knows nothing about basketball and was barely watching. At the end of the game she says, "Sloppy."
This one is squarely on the man at the top. Just horrific coaching at the end of this one.
Wrong. Players, not plays.
Benchings. Ha. Bring in whom? Heldt? Rowsey? Only 8 guys dressed.
Quote from: tower912 on January 01, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
Wojo did a lot of good things in this game. This is on the guys on the floor failing to secure rebounds and then committing dumb fouls.
Mostly yes, but end of game situational awareness has to fall on the coach too. How do you give a blocking foul on a layup when you're up 3 with under 30 seconds? Either you floor the guy and make sure there is no way in hell the shot is going in, or, preferably, once he's turned the corner you concede the shot - then you're still up 1 with 25 seconds and the best FT shooting team in the country.
Predictable the posters who show up at the end of the game to declare the program dead. Just don't bother watching, OK? Unfortunate that we fumbled that one away in the last 30 seconds. But what really killed was the three trips down the court in the 30 seconds before that ended up with no points. Tough game, but we will win more of these.
Leaving now to avoid the post-game kvetch-fest.
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on January 01, 2017, 05:32:54 PM
Predictable the posters who show up at the end of the game to declare the program dead. Just don't bother watching, OK? Unfortunate that we fumbled that one away in the last 30 seconds. But what really killed was the three trips down the court in the 30 seconds before that ended up with no points. Tough game, but we will win more of these.
Leaving now to avoid the post-game kvetch-fest.
Mom FTW!
I blame the coach for basically ruining HC. That kid is a shell of his former self.
Right your all right. How did leaving Fischer and jujuan go? This isn't something new. These are the players that have been constantly ending games like this.
Quote from: Afroman on January 01, 2017, 05:34:07 PM
I blame the coach for basically ruining HC. That kid is a shell of his former self.
Same coach found him and made him. Wojo isn't the reason Cheatham missed the layup.
Run a frickin play, instead JJJ dribbles into a crowd for the tenth time and the pirates are smiling.
What are we gonna do against teams with 2 bruisers?
Quote from: Afroman on January 01, 2017, 05:34:07 PM
I blame the coach for basically ruining HC. That kid is a shell of his former self.
You should change your moniker. I knew Afroman, and he'd think you are dumber than a box of rocks, he'd be insulted to be associated with you.
Quote from: 1SE on January 01, 2017, 05:32:41 PM
Mostly yes, but end of game situational awareness has to fall on the coach too. How do you give a blocking foul on a layup when you're up 3 with under 30 seconds? Either you floor the guy and make sure there is no way in hell the shot is going in, or, preferably, once he's turned the corner you concede the shot - then you're still up 1 with 25 seconds and the best FT shooting team in the country.
A freshman made a freshman play in his first road game. He played his chico's off today. He went for the hero draw-the-charge play and failed, leading to a series of failures by the players on the floor, not the coach.
Heldt did a better job boxing out and. bodying up .like to see Fischer's stats
You're right. HC is the same.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on January 01, 2017, 05:34:26 PM
Right your all right. How did leaving Fischer and jujuan go? This isn't something new. These are the players that have been constantly ending games like this.
Okay. So you do want our 5'8" PG in for our 7 foot center to rebound free throws. Got it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 01, 2017, 05:35:02 PM
Same coach found him and made him. Wojo isn't the reason Cheatham missed the layup.
To be somewhat fair, Cheats got hacked on that layup with no call.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 01, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
To be somewhat fair, Cheats got hacked on that layup with no call.
Regardless, not Wojo's fault.