There was a noticeable buzz and energy in the arena for the G'town game. I do think it impacted the team in a positive manner. Kudos MU fans, keep it up!
Quote from: Warrior of Law on December 29, 2016, 08:45:01 AM
There was a noticeable buzz and energy in the arena for the G'town game. I do think it impacted the team in a positive manner. Kudos MU fans, keep it up!
It definitely had moments, especially in the second half. To be honest, I was pretty happy with the turnout for the students given the break.
Good win!
Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 29, 2016, 08:57:32 AM
It definitely had moments, especially in the second half. To be honest, I was pretty happy with the turnout for the students given the break.
Good win!
Yep, the lower bowl was full, and about 1/3 of the upper deck. To be fair, though, there were a few fans that looked older or younger than your typical college student.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 29, 2016, 09:13:32 AM
Yep, the lower bowl was full, and about 1/3 of the upper deck. To be fair, though, there were a few fans that looked older or younger than your typical college student.
The be a student break package seemed to work. Theres not a noticeable gap anymore.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on December 29, 2016, 09:27:51 AM
The be a student break package seemed to work. Theres not a noticeable gap anymore.
Yeah, we took advantage of the sitting in the student section package (I am not a student) and it was a great idea. We had good seats and it made sure the student section and the lower bowl stayed relatively full.
I imagine this will continue for the Seton Hall and DePaul games as well as that is also part of the package.
Very nice crowd last night. That is the type of atmosphere and game that will bring fans back to more games. Very enjoyable night across the board.
Have to add kudo's to Wojo for the Howard recruitment. Major improvement at the PG position and he is a player to build around. He and Rowsey are a nice tandem and very pleased with both of them.
Great crowd. I think the Be a Student deal was good + an announced time of 7:30pm is ideal.
I was not expecting such a robust lower bowl during break. It was fun to see. Lets keep this rolling.
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2016, 09:39:29 AM
Very nice crowd last night. That is the type of atmosphere and game that will bring fans back to more games. Very enjoyable night across the board.
Have to add kudo's to Wojo for the Howard recruitment. Major improvement at the PG position and he is a player to build around. He and Rowsey are a nice tandem and very pleased with both of them.
More importantly, Howard should be at MU for 4 years, small for NBA. Seems Howard and Hauser have become good friends. Lets see if they can recruit some kids
to play with them. Need a 2 guard next year, as well as another big.
I agree. My only gripe is I thought there were a few key moments where we got a big bucket and could've used the crowd getting up and into it. Hauser and Howard each were trying to get the fans to realize it when they were on the bench. But I think that's more led by the student section typically, and during break there isn't a "true" student section (in that, students who *may* be aided by some alcohol are getting rowdy at key points...but a very good idea to add a package putting butts in the student section seats).
But hard to complain about that crowd during break. Hope to see more and more show up, hopefully as we have success.
Winning brings them out, plus excitement. Definitely more entertainment value this year.
From the television, the crowd didn't seem an impact at all. Sure there were moments (e.g. JJJ's monster in the first and back-to-back swipes in the second) but for most of the second half I felt a tension in the arena when the lead would go from 15 to nine as if most everyone expected MU to choke the entire advantage.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on December 29, 2016, 11:27:56 AM
From the television, the crowd didn't seem an impact at all. Sure there were moments (e.g. JJJ's monster in the first and back-to-back swipes in the second) but for most of the second half I felt a tension in the arena when the lead would go from 15 to nine as if most everyone expected MU to choke the entire advantage.
Why wouldn't that be expected? Even the most casual Marquette fan would get nervous when the other team goes on a scoring streak. They haven't exactly been consistent so far this year.
That be a Student Pass for the men's and women's game over break had good sales. Let's hope people attend the women's games as well.
Paid crowd of almost 15,000. Energy in the building. Good game to see.
I wonder what some thought of the parking and bars last night. Parking seemed fine. Reason I bring this up as the Admirals had a big crowd of 7,300 at UWM Panther Arena for their 7pm game. Pretty cool having both events letting out at the same time, as both fan bases giving out high fives. Great night on 4th street!
Quote from: mupanther on December 29, 2016, 11:56:54 AM
That be a Student Pass for the men's and women's game over break had good sales. Let's hope people attend the women's games as well.
Paid crowd of almost 15,000. Energy in the building. Good game to see.
I wonder what some thought of the parking and bars last night. Parking seemed fine. Reason I bring this up as the Admirals had a big crowd of 7,300 at UWM Panther Arena for their 7pm game. Pretty cool having both events letting out at the same time, as both fan bases giving out high fives. Great night on 4th street!
Most schools would die for a crowd that large.
Parking was really tight, so I figured there was something else going on. With everything going on north of the BC, it will make for some long walks for a few games.
Quote from: mupanther on December 29, 2016, 11:56:54 AM
That be a Student Pass for the men's and women's game over break had good sales. Let's hope people attend the women's games as well.
Paid crowd of almost 15,000. Energy in the building. Good game to see.
I wonder what some thought of the parking and bars last night. Parking seemed fine. Reason I bring this up as the Admirals had a big crowd of 7,300 at UWM Panther Arena for their 7pm game. Pretty cool having both events letting out at the same time, as both fan bases giving out high fives. Great night on 4th street!
Rumpus Room seemed pretty packed with Marquette fans before the game.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 29, 2016, 03:20:27 PM
Rumpus Room seemed pretty packed with Marquette fans before the game.
Rumpus Room? Wow, did you goballlout & pay $10 for parking? Chick filled up at the Kenosha White Castle pregame before parking &!walking from 21st & Wells
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 29, 2016, 04:06:10 PM
Rumpus Room? Wow, did you goballlout & pay $10 for parking? Chick filled up at the Kenosha White Castle pregame before parking &!walking from 21st & Wells
Nope, but we did stop to pregame with $2 Riverwest Stein's before heading to the Courtside Club.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on December 29, 2016, 03:10:15 PM
Parking was really tight, so I figured there was something else going on. With everything going on north of the BC, it will make for some long walks for a few games.
My guess is the majority of Scoopers could use the exercise.
The opponent helps draw a good crowd as well....GTown is a decent draw every year, even though they are sometimes mediocre.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 29, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
My guess is the majority of Scoopers could use the exercise.
Not all, Chick...
I wonder if SH will turn out for MU. I am clueless to their attendance history for BE middle tier home games. Same draw issue during break I would guess.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 29, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
My guess is the majority of Scoopers could use the exercise.
Misandry?
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Quote from: MUBigDance on December 30, 2016, 06:32:33 PM
I wonder if SH will turn out for MU. I am clueless to their attendance history for BE middle tier home games. Same draw issue during break I would guess.
Like several of our BE colleagues, Seton Hall plays in a professional venue (Prudential Center, home of the NHL's Devils). So, their relatively decent crowds of 7,000 fans get drowned out by empty seats. On that note, it appears there is a trend among BE teams towards playing in a smaller venue when appropriate. Examples include Villanova (Pallestra vs. Wells Fargo), St. Johns (Carnesecca vs. MSG), DePaul's new facility (Wintrust) which will seat 10,000.
It will be interesting to see if the rent/value of the new Bucks arena makes MU consider playing some games at a smaller venue such as the AL or UWM Panther arena...
Quote from: Warrior of Law on December 30, 2016, 07:36:41 PM
It will be interesting to see if the rent/value of the new Bucks arena makes MU consider playing some games at a smaller venue such as the AL or UWM Panther arena...
Have wondered this too....
The Georgetown game was as much fun as I've had since we last beat Notre Dame at our house. We took advantage of the "Be a Student" offer and had 12 friends and family make the trip from Chicago. The three point show and JJJ jumping out of the gym motivated even my mellowist millennial to put down her phone and get a little crazy. This team may be the classic example of offense selling tickets. Also, it was good to see Georgia edit. Vandy-beat LSU last night.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on December 30, 2016, 07:36:41 PM
Like several of our BE colleagues, Seton Hall plays in a professional venue (Prudential Center, home of the NHL's Devils). So, their relatively decent crowds of 7,000 fans get drowned out by empty seats. On that note, it appears there is a trend among BE teams towards playing in a smaller venue when appropriate. Examples include Villanova (Pallestra vs. Wells Fargo), St. Johns (Carnesecca vs. MSG), DePaul's new facility (Wintrust) which will seat 10,000.
It will be interesting to see if the rent/value of the new Bucks arena makes MU consider playing some games at a smaller venue such as the AL or UWM Panther arena...
Good info thanks.
I think the bucks new arena will be a plus to begin with if nothing else than a novelty. I'm looking forward to buying some seats. But you're right about the emptiness being a problem. MU does seem like a 10000 seat team.
Quote from: cschor on December 30, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
The Georgetown game was as much fun as I've had since we last beat Notre Dame at our house. We took advantage of the "Be a Student" offer and had 12 friends and family make the trip from Chicago. The three point show and JJJ jumping out of the gym motivated even my mellowist millennial to put down her phone and get a little crazy. This team may be the classic example of offense selling tickets. Also, it was good to see Georgia beat LSU last night.
I like the enthusiasm, love the support, and it's easy for a non local fan who can't get to many games to criticize, but.....Georgia and LSU were both on the good end of SEC games for us yesterday, just not the same game.
Quote from: MUBigDance on December 30, 2016, 07:52:42 PMMU does seem like a 10000 seat team.
Sorry, but this is just preposterous. We sell over 11,000 season tickets. Marquette isn't going to downsize below their STH base, especially when moving to a new arena will give them a chance to get a bit of a boost in STH numbers for people that want to get the arena experience without NBA prices.
Maybe we could play in something that seated 13,000-15,000, but no less than that. I realize that numbers haven't been what they were, but it wasn't that long ago that we were drawing 15,000 per night and during conference play it was a legit 15K+.
Will we get back there? I don't know. But the idea of downsizing to a 10K arena, playing in the Panther Arena or the Al, that's just ludicrous. Unless the program plummets for the next decade, it wouldn't even remotely be considered.
The new arena is actually supposed to be closer to 17,000 seats (down from 19,000 at the BC) so the new arena is not likely to have more empty seats than we see now. It will have more lower bowl seats and less upper deck seats though so it'll be interesting to see how that affects STH pricing.
Quote from: MU7703 on December 30, 2016, 09:13:58 PM
The new arena is actually supposed to be closer to 17,000 seats (down from 19,000 at the BC) so the new arena is not likely to have more empty seats than we see now. It will have more lower bowl seats and less upper deck seats though so it'll be interesting to see how that affects STH pricing.
I don't know how Marquette will handle it, but the Bucks have been very interactive with STHs thus far. They are planning to bring each STH in to a simulator to allow them to see what would be both the seats comparable to their current seats and the seats that would most closest meet their current price. I have a friend who is close with all the Bucks brass and it sounds like while they plan on price increases, they will try to keep prices pretty close to current.
EDIT: If we can get back to drawing 14,000 in a 17,000 seat arena (82% capacity) and most of the seats are lower bowl, it will look full just about all the time, other than probably some buy games.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 30, 2016, 08:54:22 PM
Sorry, but this is just preposterous. We sell over 11,000 season tickets. Marquette isn't going to downsize below their STH base, especially when moving to a new arena will give them a chance to get a bit of a boost in STH numbers for people that want to get the arena experience without NBA prices.
Maybe we could play in something that seated 13,000-15,000, but no less than that. I realize that numbers haven't been what they were, but it wasn't that long ago that we were drawing 15,000 per night and during conference play it was a legit 15K+.
Will we get back there? I don't know. But the idea of downsizing to a 10K arena, playing in the Panther Arena or the Al, that's just ludicrous. Unless the program plummets for the next decade, it wouldn't even remotely be considered.
Got to plan for the future though, not the past. Across the nation attendance is going down. With TV only going to get better that is a trend that is likely to continue. Even historic programs like Duke have seen some of their home court advantage disappear. I don't pretend to know the future but I could see us losing STHs even if we are a winning program.
Personally, I would love us to have our own on campus arena with 10-12 thousand seats. Keep the relationship with the Bucks and play some big games there, kind of like what Villanova does. Give students free tickets. That place would be full and rocking every game. Feel like we could make more money because all the revenue would be coming our way. Not sure if that's how the finances would work but its what I would love to see. If only I ran the world.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 30, 2016, 09:52:11 PM
Got to plan for the future though, not the past. Across the nation attendance is going down. With TV only going to get better that is a trend that is likely to continue. Even historic programs like Duke have seen some of their home court advantage disappear. I don't pretend to know the future but I could see us losing STHs even if we are a winning program.
Personally, I would love us to have our own on campus arena with 10-12 thousand seats. Keep the relationship with the Bucks and play some big games there, kind of like what Villanova does. Give students free tickets. That place would be full and rocking every game. Feel like we could make more money because all the revenue would be coming our way. Not sure if that's how the finances would work but its what I would love to see. If only I ran the world.
It's a combination of things, but you aren't going to build an arena that holds fewer seats than you have STHs. Just doesn't make sense. Next, where on campus would it go? You need at least a full city block, and maybe two, especially if you want parking, which the campus area would never accommodate without a dedicated facility.
I understand the theoretical lure, but we live in an urban area that is mostly developed. If we tried to put it where the Al is, we'd have to tear down Cobeen and 707. Maybe tear down the Ramada and put it on 6th and Michigan (can they even do that?).
I don't mean to be a jerk, but I feel like it's a complete non-starter. Unless there's a reasonable plan, including both land and fundraising ability, I don't see the point to the discussion.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 30, 2016, 10:14:29 PM
It's a combination of things, but you aren't going to build an arena that holds fewer seats than you have STHs. Just doesn't make sense. Next, where on campus would it go? You need at least a full city block, and maybe two, especially if you want parking, which the campus area would never accommodate without a dedicated facility.
I understand the theoretical lure, but we live in an urban area that is mostly developed. If we tried to put it where the Al is, we'd have to tear down Cobeen and 707. Maybe tear down the Ramada and put it on 6th and Michigan (can they even do that?).
I don't mean to be a jerk, but I feel like it's a complete non-starter. Unless there's a reasonable plan, including both land and fundraising ability, I don't see the point to the discussion.
Oh I'm sure this is the case. This was purely an "if I ran the world" scenario.
Thanks for starting this thread. We certainly have some who complain about the crowd most of the time, so it's nice to have something where the crowd gets two thumbs-up.
I also like the arena discussion. I'm sure brew is right - MU won't play anywhere smaller than their STH base. Still, lots of schools certainly could draw more than their STH base but choose to make the events have a more exclusive feel.
I mean, Duke could probably draw more than double what they get at Cameron, but they don't play games at the Hurricanes' arena just to get the $$$. They have a long waiting list for tickets.
All y'all need to relax. Upon completion, the Benny B Thunderdome will settle the hearts of all.
Groundbreaking is slated for 2035. Get your shovels ready.
Quote from: Benny B on December 31, 2016, 12:04:55 AM
All y'all need to relax. Upon completion, the Benny B Thunderdome will settle the hearts of all.
Groundbreaking is slated for 2035. Get your shovels ready.
We do need a marquee place for roller derby...we could share the place.
As for hypothetical homecourts...of course they're all hypothetical. There is no other place than the bucks new place. UWM, Al, etc are all out.
Quote from: MUBigDance on December 31, 2016, 07:52:56 AM
We do need a marquee place for roller derby...we could share the place.
Banked track roller derby in the Austin convention center was one of the more memorable events I have attended in person -- good fun and good people watching.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 30, 2016, 07:40:05 PM
Have wondered this too....
Take it to da bank, not happenin', hey?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 30, 2016, 09:52:11 PM
Got to plan for the future though, not the past. Across the nation attendance is going down. With TV only going to get better that is a trend that is likely to continue. Even historic programs like Duke have seen some of their home court advantage disappear. I don't pretend to know the future but I could see us losing STHs even if we are a winning program.
Personally, I would love us to have our own on campus arena with 10-12 thousand seats. Keep the relationship with the Bucks and play some big games there, kind of like what Villanova does. Give students free tickets. That place would be full and rocking every game. Feel like we could make more money because all the revenue would be coming our way. Not sure if that's how the finances would work but its what I would love to see. If only I ran the world.
...ah, free stuff?
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 31, 2016, 08:03:05 AM
Banked track roller derby in the Austin convention center was one of the more memorable events I have attended in person -- good fun and good people watching.
+1 St. Louis a long time ago