AP
4. Villanova
7. Xavier
22. Creighton
Butler, Seton Hall also received votes
Coaches
3. Villanova
8. Xavier
23. Creighton
Seton Hall, Butler also received votes
AP
3. Villanova
11. Xavier
22. Creighton
Butler, Marquette, Seton Hall received votes
Coaches
3. Villanova
10.Xavier
20. Creighton
Butler and Seton Hall received votes
AP
2. Villanova
9. Xavier
12 . Creighton
Seton Hall and Butler also received votes
Coaches Poll
2. Villanova
8. Xavier
18. Creighton
Seton Hall and Butler also received votes
Creighton wins the Paradise Jam. BlueJays are looking like contenders for BE crown.
#ilovetheparadisejam
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 21, 2016, 09:27:39 PM
Creighton wins the Paradise Jam. BlueJays are looking like contenders for BE crown.
#ilovetheparadisejam
they look tough, nothing marquette can't handle. We play them at home for senior day
Last Weeks rankings were
AP
2. Villanova
7. Xavier
10. Creighton
18. Butler
Coaches
2. Villanova
7. Xavier
12. Creighton
18. Butler
No one else received votes.
Will be interesting to see if Villanova is number 1 when the new rankings come out Monday.
Xavier obviously lost to a very good Bayor team on the road and will be interesting to see how that hurts them.
Also Providence Beat number 21 Rhode Island so they may be in the additional vote category.
I think if we can beat Fresno State and Badgers we will get in the rankings.
Might get votes, but beating two unranked teams and beating one ranked team at home likely won't be enough.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 04, 2016, 09:20:14 PM
Might get votes, but beating two unranked teams and beating one ranked team at home likely won't be enough.
Im more worried about playing fresno state then the badgers ;D
AP
1. Villanova
10. Creighton
13. Xavier
16. Butler
Coaches
1. Villanova
10.Creighton
14. Xavier
15. Butler
No one else in the Big East got any votes. Lets see how long Villanova can hold the Number 1 position.
AP
3.Villanova
8. Creighton
12. Butler
15. Xavier
Seton Hall also received votes
Coaches
3. Villanova
8. Creighton
13. Butler
14. Xavier
Seton Hall also received votes
AP
1. Villanova
7. Creighton
13. Butler
22. Xavier
No others receiving notes
Coaches
2. Villanova
7. Creighton
14. Butler
19. Xavier
No others receiving votes
AP
1. Villanova
11. Butler
16. Creighton
24. Xavier
No one else received votes
Coaches
2. Villanova
11. Butler
16. Creighton
22. Xavier
No one else received votes.
Clearly losing Watson impacted Creighton perception in both polls.However, if they can hang around at this level it would be great for all concerned.
Villanova obviously has to take us seriously and not look forward to their battle with Virginia on Sunday.
AP
4. Villanova
16. Butler
22. Creighton
Xavier received additional votes
Coaches
4. Villanova
15. Butler
22. Creighton
25. Xavier
No other Big East school received votes
OT but amazing to see the Wildcats ranked in the AP poll. And I am not talking about Villanova, Arizona, Kentucky, nor Kansas State.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 30, 2017, 03:38:36 PM
OT but amazing to see the Wildcats ranked in the AP poll. And I am not talking about Villanova, Arizona, Kentucky, nor Kansas State.
Not that surprising, like Jay Bee and Markus Howard, I've been saying it all year. Northwestern is legit.
They have a tough stretch four games coming up, have Purdue and Wisconsin on the road and Maryland and Illinois at home. Should be a good measuring stick for the rest of the season.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 30, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Not that surprising, like Jay Bee and Markus Howard, I've been saying it all year. Northwestern is legit.
They have a tough stretch four games coming up, have Purdue and Wisconsin on the road and Maryland and Illinois at home. Should be a good measuring stick for the rest of the season.
I am a believer but it is still surreal to see it. Wonder if they are the last team of the Power Conferences to finally have a national ranking?
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 30, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
I am a believer but it is still surreal to see it. Wonder if they are the last team of the Power Conferences to finally have a national ranking?
Northwestern was previously ranked in the top 25 for one week in December of 2009.
Quote from: 4everCrean on January 30, 2017, 04:28:51 PM
Northwestern was previously ranked in the top 25 for one week in December of 2009.
Thanks. I hope this season turns out better than 2009.
Butler beat Northwestern, so Wildcats ranking , rip etc helpful to Big East.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 30, 2017, 04:39:57 PM
Thanks. I hope this season turns out better than 2009.
This is just the 13th week NU has ever been ranked. (MU has been ranked 360 weeks and Kentucky 871 for comparison.)
* They were ranked #25 for a week in December 2009
* They reached a peak of #12 in the 1968/1969 season
* They reached a peak of #6 in 1958/1959
* They reached a peak of #16 in 1954/1955
These are the only seasons they have ever been ranked.
They have never made the NCAA tourney
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/northwestern/
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 30, 2017, 04:39:57 PM
Thanks. I hope this season turns out better than 2009.
The John Shurna wonder years. Talk about someone who regressed over a college career.
The BIG#? being a bit down this year looks like a perfect storm for this Northwestern team to take advantage.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 31, 2017, 06:48:43 AM
The John Shurna wonder years. Talk about someone who regressed over a college career.
He didn't. His best year was his senior year.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 31, 2017, 06:48:43 AM
The John Shurna wonder years. Talk about someone who regressed over a college career.
I didn't watch them that closely, but how is this regression?
08-09: 18.5 7.3 3.0 1.0 0.5 0.6 1.2 .466 .745 .347
09-10: 36.4 18.2 6.4 2.6 0.8 0.9 2.0 .459 .775 .355
10-11: 34.0 16.6 4.9 2.6 1.1 1.0 1.8 .481 .707 .434
11-12: 37.3 20.0 5.4 2.8 1.2 1.7 1.6 .463 .753 .440
His raw numbers took a bit of a hit between his sophomore and junior years but his efficiency increased.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 31, 2017, 09:18:35 AM
I didn't watch them that closely, but how is this regression?
08-09: 18.5 7.3 3.0 1.0 0.5 0.6 1.2 .466 .745 .347
09-10: 36.4 18.2 6.4 2.6 0.8 0.9 2.0 .459 .775 .355
10-11: 34.0 16.6 4.9 2.6 1.1 1.0 1.8 .481 .707 .434
11-12: 37.3 20.0 5.4 2.8 1.2 1.7 1.6 .463 .753 .440
His raw numbers took a bit of a hit between his sophomore and junior years but his efficiency increased.
Weird, sure felt like he got worse. Maybe it just felt like it because the team was worse after his sophomore year.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 31, 2017, 09:26:08 AM
Weird, sure felt like he got worse. Maybe it just felt like it because the team was worse after his sophomore year.
Indicative of quite a lot of the modern mindset. People prefer to "feel" their truth rather then know the quantifiable truth of the matter.
AP
2. Villanova
22.Butler
23. Creighton
24. Xavier
No other Big East team received votes
Coaches
2. Villanova
21. Butler
23. Creighton
25. Xavier
No other Big East team received votes
Big East has really beaten up on itself. That, and the Watson and Summer injuries have really hurt in the rankings. Butlers two game slide didn't help. Think the BE as a whole still underrated, but it's such a shame the injuries have hampered what could have been a legit 4 or 5 teams that could easily make the 2nd weekend.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 07, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
Big East has really beaten up on itself. That, and the Watson and Summer injuries have really hurt in the rankings. Butlers two game slide didn't help. Think the BE as a whole still underrated, but it's such a shame the injuries have hampered what could have been a legit 4 or 5 teams that could easily make the 2nd weekend.
I agree with this analysis.
AP
2. Villanova
20. Creighton
24. Butler
Xavier received votes
Coaches
2. villanova
22. Creighton
24.Butler
Xavier received votes
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 07, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
Big East has really beaten up on itself. That, and the Watson and Summer injuries have really hurt in the rankings. Butlers two game slide didn't help. Think the BE as a whole still underrated, but it's such a shame the injuries have hampered what could have been a legit 4 or 5 teams that could easily make the 2nd weekend.
This. With only 10 teams in the league, for MU to consistently be in the top half is a tough task. SH, George, Prov, Butler aren't going away. It will be a dog fight every year against the middle of the pack. With the competiveness, a 8th/9th place team will be able to beat a 3/4tg place team every time they play. It is the nature of the league.
Big East RPI Rankings
2. Nova
12. Butler
14. Xavier
17. Creighton
45. Seton Hall
60. Georgetown
71. Providence
82. MU
114. St. Johns
230. Depaul
AP
2. Villanova
22. Butler
23. Creighton
No other team received votes
Coaches
2. Villanova
22. Butler
23. Creighton
No other team received votes
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 31, 2017, 06:48:43 AM
The John Shurna wonder years. Talk about someone who regressed over a college career.
Shurna just got better and better. At the Final Four after his senior year he became the only player in history to win both the slam dunk and three point shooting contest.
His Dad was a good friend of mine and really wanted Marquette to recruit him. Unfortunately we never did.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 22, 2017, 09:06:37 AM
Shurna just got better and better. At the Final Four after his senior year he became the only player in history to win both the slam dunk and three point shooting contest.
His Dad was a good friend of mine and really wanted Marquette to recruit him. Unfortunately we never did.
I can't figure out why anybody would diss Shurna. A very good college player. We definitely could have used him.
AP
2. Villanova
13. Butler
Creighton received votes
Coaches
2. Villanova
15. Butler
Creighton,Xavier received votes
Good news is Butler is moving up significantly. Bad news is Wheels coming off Wagon of Creighton, Xavier.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 27, 2017, 01:11:55 PM
AP
2. Villanova
13. Butler
Creighton received votes
Coaches
2. Villanova
15. Butler
Creighton,Xavier received votes
Good news is Butler is moving up significantly. Bad news is Wheels coming off Wagon of Creighton, Xavier.
Let's run 'em both into the ditch.
Rankings no matta at this point