What can you really take away from a game like this? Not a ton. Simply too weak an opponent. So here's the few things that I think might be meaningful:
- Lots of shooters: We legitimately have 9 guys with a chance to score from deep. When the team has an off night from three it will be ugly, but those will likely be few and far between simply because we have so many guys that can put it in the basket beyond the arc.
- Offensive boards will be tough: For the most part, we only kept one guy down low on the offensive glass, usually Luke, Matt, or Sam. Every now and again, someone would flash in for a board, but more often than not it was 3-4 defenders surrounding our one guy. We will likely struggle with second chance points.
- Defensive boards may be manageable: Okay, we overwhelmed the inferior opponent, but I saw some real effort to get to the defensive glass from guys like Rowsey, Johnson, and Carter. The whole team rebounding thing might work. I don't think we'll be a good rebounding team, but if the effort is there, we may not be as bad as many fear.
- Deep rotation: I know, this is tough to really say definitively, but I think we will have 11 scholarship players and all 11 will get some minutes. They won't all get a lot, but the "end of the bench" guys tonight were Rowsey, Duane, and Sandy, all of whom have averaged 20+ mpg for entire seasons. I think Wojo is going to go deep into his bench more often than not.
- Fun to watch: With lots of shooters, lots of ball movement, and active hands on defense, this team will at times be very fun to watch and has the potential to really play an entertaining brand of basketball. One caveat, however, is that when the shots aren't falling and guys are overreaching for steals and coming up empty (think Jajuan his first two years) we will have games where we are really frustrating to watch as well. That said, I think we'll rarely be boring.
- Sam: Okay...after games like this (and frankly most cupcakes) I try not to make too many individual player analyses because of the competition level. But that said, I think Sam is really going to be a player. He's incredibly active all over the court. Good movement both on and off the ball. Can block shots and get to balls on defense, has a beautiful stroke from deep, in a couple years he's the guy opposing teams will be saying "hasn't that ******* graduated yet?" I really think we're going to love him.
Awesome brew! Thanks for the mini analysis. Only 6 days until the games count.. Can't wait.
Totally boiled down thoughts- we are better than last year no doubt - And id probabky say at every position (are Reinhardt and Sam individually better than Ellenson - not sure id say that but it ain't that far and combined I'd say we are still better at the 4-
Was at the game and agree with brew. MU really passes and shoots the ball well. Thought the defense was rather iffy especially considering the opponent. Markus Howard is a very nice offensive player, but his defense was not good.
My thoughts:
1) We didn't lose.
2) Let'a see what we look like Friday.
Quote from: Nukem2 on November 05, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
Was at the game and agree with brew. MU really passes and shoots the ball well. Thought the defense was rather iffy especially considering the opponent. Markus Howard is a very nice offensive player, but his defense was not good.
I'll be interested to see the defense. Early on, it seemed like Rockhurst was getting a ton of open looks from deep. My hope was maybe they knew Rockhurst wasn't a great longball team, but if it was unintentional (and it probably was), then there's definitely work to be done.
I do think this will go hand in hand with the "fun to watch", though sometimes it will be more fun for the neutrals but frustrating for us. Considering the size of this team, I could see some zone working because so many players are interchangeable. Didn't seem like they really want to play that way, but when Rockhurst was moving the ball well our guys got crossed up in man which led to some of those open looks.
Highlights for those interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9rLEbGeWSU
https://www.youtube.com/v/A9rLEbGeWSU
- Real Chili Fix achieved
- 30-0 on points off turnovers. 'Nuff said
- Thought the small line up looked good
- Rowsey and Hauser will be starting situationally at some point
I thought two of the three fouls called on Franklin were crap. The third one especially.
We were playing such an overmatched team today, you can't take away much more from today.
The uniforms look great in action. Looking forward to Friday.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 05, 2016, 05:20:01 PM
I thought two of the three fouls called on Franklin were crap. The third one especially.
We were playing such an overmatched team today, you can't take away much more from today.
You have to admit, three fouls in three minutes is impressive.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 05, 2016, 05:51:15 PM
You have to admit, three fouls in three minutes is impressive.
Yes, he did make efficient use of his minutes with activity ;D
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 05, 2016, 04:35:08 PM
Highlights for those interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9rLEbGeWSU
https://www.youtube.com/v/A9rLEbGeWSU
Thanks for posting.
1) Uniforms look badass
2) Love the passes
1) We have numerous guys who can shoot.
2) Both our Frosh are ballplayers immediately.
3) Luke needs to eliminate useless fouls many feet from the rim.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2016-17/box_score/stats_20161105aaa.pdf
Box Score
Quote from: wadesworld on November 05, 2016, 04:17:41 PM
My thoughts:
1) We didn't lose.
2) Let'a see what we look like Friday.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Encouraging
• Good ball movement, passing, shot selection, offensive balance
• 42.9 3PT%, 67.6 eFG%, 29 assists, just 5 turnovers
• 7 players hitting at least 1 3PT
• 6 double-figure scorers, 11 players with 13+ minutes
• High pace, energy and effort throughout
• Freshmen not playing like freshmen
• Markus Howard scoring 17 points in 18 minutes, 4-6 3PT
• Sam Hauser doing a little of everything: 12 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals
• 22 rebounds for Hauser, Duane Wilson, Haanif Cheatham and Sandy Cohen
• JaJuan Johnson driving the lane at will and dishing 6 assists
• Matt Heldt playing 16 minutes
• Active, harassing man-to-man defense, good help
• Nobody injured
Concerning
• Luke Fischer with 2 first half fouls, just 13 minutes played overall
• Fischer and Heldt combining for just 12 points, 6 rebounds
• Maybe too many 3s? (39% of all FGA)
• Missing too many FT (10-16)
I don't read too much into an exhibition against an overmatched Division II school. It was fun to watch. Can't wait for Friday night to see what this team looks like for real.
Looking at the box score two things stood out to me that I did not realize during the game. JJJ had 6 assists and Reinhardt had zero rebounds.
Quote from: bilsu on November 05, 2016, 08:08:16 PM
Looking at the box score two things stood out to me that I did not realize during the game. JJJ had 6 assists and Reinhardt had zero rebounds.
You could not tell all those JJ assists? What game were you watching? He had several others that's guys did not finish.
Was listening on the radio and they were saying that there's reason to believe Johnson could lead the team in assists
Cupcake or not... only 5 turnovers as a team is impressive.
Quote from: Hold the Ellenson on November 05, 2016, 08:45:25 PM
Cupcake or not... only 5 turnovers as a team is impressive.
At least one of them was an offensive foul which is forgivable. Love the ball control
Quote from: Hold the Ellenson on November 05, 2016, 08:45:25 PMCupcake or not... only 5 turnovers as a team is impressive.
DePaul gave away 21 possessions against Rockhurst, and the two teams combined for a whopping 45 turnovers. If we lose to DePaul this season, I think my head might explode.
Quote from: bilsu on November 05, 2016, 08:08:16 PM
Looking at the box score two things stood out to me that I did not realize during the game. JJJ had 6 assists and Reinhardt had zero rebounds.
Shouldn't stand out. JjJ has consistently had strong assist rates for a non-PG and Katin has consistently been allergic to rebounds
Didn't get to see the game. How many turnovers did we have? Did the game look sloppy?
Quote from: Marquette4life on November 05, 2016, 09:43:35 PM
Didn't get to see the game. How many turnovers did we have? Did the game look sloppy?
Did you read this thread?
Quote from: Marquette4life on November 05, 2016, 09:43:35 PM
Didn't get to see the game. How many turnovers did we have? Did the game look sloppy?
Door #1 Post 14
Quote from: bilsu on November 05, 2016, 08:08:16 PM
Looking at the box score two things stood out to me that I did not realize during the game. JJJ had 6 assists and Reinhardt had zero rebounds.
JJJ is our best passer, he is quick, has great vision and looks to make assists.
Quote from: Windyplayer on November 05, 2016, 05:26:20 PMThe uniforms look great in action.
Agreed. Love the home whites.
vandy-5:30 game time? obviously the early tv slot of a dbl header. hopefully people can get the early seating for their fish frys and traffic will probably show a sparse crowd until 1/2 way thru the half, eyn'a? adjust the schedules accordingly and let's see some roundball
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 06, 2016, 04:41:30 AM
vandy-5:30 game time? obviously the early tv slot of a dbl header. hopefully people can get the early seating for their fish frys and traffic will probably show a sparse crowd until 1/2 way thru the half, eyn'a? adjust the schedules accordingly and let's see some roundball
Considering it's in Annapolis, I'd guess most fans are traveling for this one and will plan accordingly around the tip time.
Nm
I do not remember Wilson's, but I think he turned it over on a drive. Heldt and Rowsey got called for a baby step before they drove. Heldt's I could see from the stands and it did not surprise me. Rowsey faked a shot shot and started to drive. That one call I was not expecting. Carter started to pass and stopped. It was an obvious call, but may of been caused by the player Carter was going to pass to all of a sudden not being open. A travel is better than a stolen pass. Cohen's turnover I did not agree with. He drove in for a basket got hit from behind before he fell into a defender under the basket. When they blew the whistle I was expecting the foul to be on the defender that hit Cohen in the back first, but it was called a charge. Only 5 turnovers and Wilson's was the only one that could of been a live ball turnover. Very impressive showing by the team, especially since they played 11 players.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 06, 2016, 04:41:30 AM
vandy-5:30 game time? obviously the early tv slot of a dbl header. hopefully people can get the early seating for their fish frys and traffic will probably show a sparse crowd until 1/2 way thru the half, eyn'a? adjust the schedules accordingly and let's see some roundball
430 Milwaukee time.
Seemed like another family scrimmage. Last year was the Ellenson reunion & this year vs Drew & Dick Dieners Rockhurst club (37-92 last 5 years in D2).
But hey, atleast MU smashed them more than DePaul did! Is it Friday yet :)?
Wilson's was up top and the result of a very bad handle.
MU had four of the five turnovers at half...which in a garbage game, is impressive to limit it. Versus Valley City last year, MU had five turnovers in the first 12 minutes, on the way to 16. The early season focus is there. Let's hope it continues.
Vandy is a 5:30 local time start.
Game starts at 6:30 EST.
Quote from: We R Final Four on November 06, 2016, 08:08:39 AM
430 Milwaukee time.
I actually think it is 5:30 Milwaukee time, at least according to the CBS Sports broadcast info on both Time-Warner and DirecTV.
Quote from: fjm on November 06, 2016, 08:39:55 AM
Vandy is a 5:30 local time start.
Game starts at 6:30 EST.
This is correct. I've got it up in the top banner. Scoop time is Central time.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 06, 2016, 09:51:17 AM
This is correct. I've got it up in the top banner. Scoop time is Central time.
Dangit, Rocky, Scoop time is ALL the time!
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 06, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
Wilson's was up top and the result of a very bad handle.
MU had four of the five turnovers at half...which in a garbage game, is impressive to limit it. Versus Valley City last year, MU had five turnovers in the first 12 minutes, on the way to 16. The early season focus is there. Let's hope it continues.
I turned to my wife before Duane's turnover and said, "why is Duane bringing the ball up court when they have 2 better ball handlers , Howard and Rowsey, in the game?" As usual, she didn't appreciate my genius!
Quote from: Marquette4life on November 05, 2016, 09:43:35 PM
Didn't get to see the game. How many turnovers did we have? Did the game look sloppy?
MUs play wasn't very sloppy at all, IMO.
Not that it will matter this season, but was anyone else impressed by the new walk on as I was. He got called for three quick fouls, but he really went after the rebounds. He reminded me of the Seton Hall type player.
My big takeaway is we don't stink. You can't tell a lot on the upside against these preseason cupcakes except "do we stink?" Do we struggle to win by 20? Was it painful to watch.
But none of that. We did what a good team would do. But are we good?
Vanderbilt will tell us.
Quote from: bilsu on November 06, 2016, 02:51:30 PM
Not that it will matter this season, but was anyone else impressed by the new walk on as I was. He got called for three quick fouls, but he really went after the rebounds. He reminded me of the Seton Hall type player.
I commented to chick that if we ever need to play hackaplayer.
29 assists.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 06, 2016, 09:51:17 AM
This is correct. I've got it up in the top banner. Scoop time is Central time.
Now I know why my dog always pooped an hour earlier over the summer. The scooper is on time now that were on CDT here on the East Coast.
Quote from: tower912 on November 07, 2016, 09:48:00 AM
29 assists.
The following statement is in line with free throws do not matter claim, which I do not agree with. They do matter in close games.
I find the number of assists on baskets made as irrelevant. A basket made is a basket made whether it is associated with an assist or not. Sure it is a sign that the team is sharing the ball. It is also a sign that a team is not scoring off offensive rebounds or drives to the basket. I rather watch a player with a Wade type move blow by a player than watch someone pass the ball so someone can shoot a jumper. Feel free to disagree with me on this as I am sure there are plenty of people (maybe everyone besides me) that think assists matter. Just about every post game show Buzz and Wojo talk about the assist to basket ratio and I always think so what.
It was scheduled to be at 4:30pm and 7pm, but got changed in August to 5:30pm CT and 8pm for MU/Vandy & Ohio State/Navy. Both games on CBSSN.
Quote from: bilsu on November 07, 2016, 10:00:17 AM
The following statement is in line with free throws do not matter claim, which I do not agree with. They do matter in close games.
I find the number of assists on baskets made as irrelevant. A basket made is a basket made whether it is associated with an assist or not. Sure it is a sign that the team is sharing the ball. It is also a sign that a team is not scoring off offensive rebounds or drives to the basket. I rather watch a player with a Wade type move blow by a player than watch someone pass the ball so someone can shoot a jumper. Feel free to disagree with me on this as I am sure there are plenty of people (maybe everyone besides me) that think assists matter. Just about every post game show Buzz and Wojo talk about the assist to basket ratio and I always think so what.
I agree, I mean so what if some of the best basketball minds in the country have identified this as a key statistic for success I want to see a player with a once in a generation talent blow by people and not pass the ball. I mean sure if he's not going to pass then it'll be easier for other teams to double and triple team him but so what.
Assists matter they are a correlated with successfully breaking down a defense and playing the offense that the coach has installed (unless that offense is just isolation)
Quote from: bilsu on November 07, 2016, 10:00:17 AM
The following statement is in line with free throws do not matter claim, which I do not agree with. They do matter in close games.
I find the number of assists on baskets made as irrelevant. A basket made is a basket made whether it is associated with an assist or not. Sure it is a sign that the team is sharing the ball. It is also a sign that a team is not scoring off offensive rebounds or drives to the basket. I rather watch a player with a Wade type move blow by a player than watch someone pass the ball so someone can shoot a jumper. Feel free to disagree with me on this as I am sure there are plenty of people (maybe everyone besides me) that think assists matter. Just about every post game show Buzz and Wojo talk about the assist to basket ratio and I always think so what.
If you have a transcendent player who can get his shot at any time, sure. Any other time, assists are an indication of unselfish play and understanding of the system.
Assists show a style of play. A team with a high assist rate is NOT a good indicator of offensive efficiency and may in fact be a negative sign (low orebs/putbacks; low steal/transition buckets/lack of individual shot creators, etc)
Box score says attendance was 7,975.
Is it safe to assume that's how many season tickets were sold this year?
Quote from: Benny B on November 07, 2016, 10:52:36 AM
Box score says attendance was 7,975.
Is it safe to assume that's how many season tickets were sold this year?
Yikes. There weren't 8,000 in the house for sure so I fear you might be correct.
Quote from: jsglow on November 07, 2016, 10:54:47 AM
Yikes. There weren't 8,000 in the house for sure so I fear you might be correct.
What has it been in recent years past?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 07, 2016, 11:39:27 AM
What has it been in recent years past?
Attendance for Grambling last year was 11,618. While we have argued about how many single game tickets are sold for bottom feeders, many believe that's a decent proxy for last year's season ticket base.
Edit: Just looked up Valley City State from last year. 11,156. Suggests that the season ticket base has dropped nearly 30%.
Wasn't VCSt a night game? Rockhurst on Saturday was a day game, and it competed directly with the Badger football game, which could explain some of the drop in attendance.
I even skipped the game to go watch St. Cats win the boys soccer title, but I have season tickets so I was probably counted in the 8,000.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on November 07, 2016, 12:05:00 PM
Wasn't VCSt a night game? Rockhurst on Saturday was a day game, and it competed directly with the Badger football game, which could explain some of the drop in attendance.
I even skipped the game to go watch St. Cats win the boys soccer title, but I have season tickets so I was probably counted in the 8,000.
You're missing the point. MU counts tickets sold. As I said from the 'nearly' empty BC, there's NO WAY that there were even 5,000 there. Eng, chick and I had it to ourselves.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on November 07, 2016, 12:05:00 PM
Wasn't VCSt a night game? Rockhurst on Saturday was a day game, and it competed directly with the Badger football game, which could explain some of the drop in attendance.
I even skipped the game to go watch St. Cats win the boys soccer title, but I have season tickets so I was probably counted in the 8,000.
The point made however was that Marquette announces attendance as the number of tickets sold, not the butts in the seats. So if they're announcing less than 8,000 and we know every season ticket holder purchased a seat, that doesn't bode well for attendance.
Also makes it completely bewildering how despite my highest donation amount as a STH, my seats got worse from last year >:(
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2016, 12:14:24 PM
The point made however was that Marquette announces attendance as the number of tickets sold, not the butts in the seats. So if they're announcing less than 8,000 and we know every season ticket holder purchased a seat, that doesn't bode well for attendance.
Also makes it completely bewildering how despite my highest donation amount as a STH, my seats got worse from last year >:(
Brew was there too and owes me a beer!
Doesn't really surprise me though. We haven't won in a long time and we don't have the draw of Hank like we did last year. Season tickets were bound to go down, even though I think we have a better team.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 07, 2016, 12:18:33 PM
Doesn't really surprise me though. We haven't won in a long time and we don't have the draw of Hank like we did last year. Season tickets were bound to go down, even though I think we have a better team.
You all might recall that I had previously predicted the potential for attendance to drop below 10,000. No way I would have guessed this, if accurate.
One more quick point. Dollars and cents as represented by attendance might be the biggest factor determining Wojo's long term future. I sincerely believe a season ticket base of 8,000 won't be considered acceptable long term.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 07, 2016, 12:18:33 PM
Doesn't really surprise me though. We haven't won in a long time and we don't have the draw of Hank like we did last year. Season tickets were bound to go down, even though I think we have a better team.
A decline doesn't surprise me. A decline of more than 3,000 in a single year? That surprises me.
Marquette announced their average attendance in 2015-16 as 13,308 per game (http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/050416aaa.html). So that's a little over 2,000 non-STH tickets sold per game.
If that 7,975 is indicative of the number of STHs this year, we could be looking at less than 10,000 average attendance this year. Last year that would have dropped us from 21st to 43rd. Honestly, that's a terrible number and indicative that the athletic department is not getting the job done, from on the court results to marketing.
In that "Marquette by the Numbers" video, one of the points of pride was 15 straight years of top-25 attendance. The biggest takeaway from Rockhurst is not that streak ending, but ending with a dismal whimper. That impacts revenue, marketing, recruiting, virtually all aspects of the program. In the entire time since Wojo took over, that 7,975 may be the most significant statistical point to indicate the trajectory of the program. They need to start winning, now.
Well said Brew. If you scoopers within reasonable driving distance really care, buy some tickets and get your butt down there as often as you can.
The attendance number was a typo. The paid crowd was over 11,000.
Wow after Wojo's plea for us to get our butts to the games that isn't good. Can you buy season tickets after the start of the season? Because it would be interesting to see if there's any spike if we were to beat Vandy
Quote from: jsglow on November 07, 2016, 12:37:56 PM
Well said Brew. If you scoopers within reasonable driving distance really care, buy some tickets and get your butt down there as often as you can.
Define reasonable
Quote from: mupanther on November 07, 2016, 12:40:25 PM
The attendance number was a typo. The paid crowd was over 11,000.
Any idea the actual number? They may want to get that fixed, that's a big typo.
Quote from: mupanther on November 07, 2016, 12:40:25 PM
The attendance number was a typo. The paid crowd was over 11,000.
Source?
Quote from: jsglow on November 07, 2016, 12:51:02 PM
Source?
MuPanther works for the athletic department (or Marquette in some capacity), if I'm not mistaken.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
Any idea the actual number? They may want to get that fixed, that's a big typo.
Didn't remember the number. I'll ask for it. Exhibition games don't count for your season totals. It is a big typo, because it's sending a bad message about the fan base, that turns out not to be true.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on November 07, 2016, 12:58:56 PM
MuPanther works for the athletic department (or Marquette in some capacity), if I'm not mistaken.
Dental School
Quote from: mupanther on November 07, 2016, 01:00:38 PM
Didn't remember the number. I'll ask for it. Exhibition games don't count for your season totals. It is a big typo, because it's sending a bad message about the fan base, that turns out not to be true.
Not worried about the actual attendance, more the message sent by indicating there are less than 8,000 STHs this year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2016, 12:28:33 PM
A decline doesn't surprise me. A decline of more than 3,000 in a single year? That surprises me.
Marquette announced their average attendance in 2015-16 as 13,308 per game (http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/050416aaa.html). So that's a little over 2,000 non-STH tickets sold per game.
If that 7,975 is indicative of the number of STHs this year, we could be looking at less than 10,000 average attendance this year. Last year that would have dropped us from 21st to 43rd. Honestly, that's a terrible number and indicative that the athletic department is not getting the job done, from on the court results to marketing.
In that "Marquette by the Numbers" video, one of the points of pride was 15 straight years of top-25 attendance. The biggest takeaway from Rockhurst is not that streak ending, but ending with a dismal whimper. That impacts revenue, marketing, recruiting, virtually all aspects of the program. In the entire time since Wojo took over, that 7,975 may be the most significant statistical point to indicate the trajectory of the program. They need to start winning, now.
We need to win and we need to do it now.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2016, 12:28:33 PM
A decline doesn't surprise me. A decline of more than 3,000 in a single year? That surprises me.
Marquette announced their average attendance in 2015-16 as 13,308 per game (http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/050416aaa.html). So that's a little over 2,000 non-STH tickets sold per game.
If that 7,975 is indicative of the number of STHs this year, we could be looking at less than 10,000 average attendance this year. Last year that would have dropped us from 21st to 43rd. Honestly, that's a terrible number and indicative that the athletic department is not getting the job done, from on the court results to marketing.
In that "Marquette by the Numbers" video, one of the points of pride was 15 straight years of top-25 attendance. The biggest takeaway from Rockhurst is not that streak ending, but ending with a dismal whimper. That impacts revenue, marketing, recruiting, virtually all aspects of the program. In the entire time since Wojo took over, that 7,975 may be the most significant statistical point to indicate the trajectory of the program. They need to start winning, now.
Maybe that was the Ellenson effect. I thought with a McDonald's American that attendance would of gone up last year. Last year did not seem to get a boost by Ellenson. Maybe Ellenson prevented it from declining more last year and that is now showing up this year, since the season ticket holders who held on because of him are leaving a year later. Maybe the new arena will have the same effect. I know I am hanging on for the new arena. After that season, I will see. I love going to the games, but I can watch them on TV in Sheboygan, save a lot of money, and not worry about snowy roads.
Does anyone have any idea what sales have been like for the Mini Plans? I wonder if those have increased significantly in the past couple of seasons.
I know of a handful of people who switched from season tix to the Mini Plans this season. I assume they're not alone.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 07, 2016, 02:38:44 PM
Does anyone have any idea what sales have been like for the Mini Plans? I wonder if those have increased significantly in the past couple of seasons.
I know of a handful of people who switched from season tix to the Mini Plans this season. I assume they're not alone.
I heard from September, up 60% from last year. That's mainly due as Wisconsin and National Marquette Day versus Xavier are the main games on the Four Game Mini Plan.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 07, 2016, 02:38:44 PM
Does anyone have any idea what sales have been like for the Mini Plans? I wonder if those have increased significantly in the past couple of seasons.
I know of a handful of people who switched from season tix to the Mini Plans this season. I assume they're not alone.
The plans they offer recent grads are a pretty great deal. While if i lived anywhere close to Milwaukee I would probably be paying more than I should for the best lower bowl seats I could get my hands on, I don't know how any recent grad who cares just a little about MU hoops wouldn't do it. I would think you could make your money back just selling a few games a year.
Curious - does the paid attendance figure (whether its 8k or 11k) include the student season tickets?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 07, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
Curious - does the paid attendance figure (whether its 8k or 11k) include the student season tickets?
Yes
So panther, do you have the number because I've never seen MU make a mistake like this ever. Right now the only evidence we have is the 7,900.
Quote from: jsglow on November 08, 2016, 06:43:53 AM
So panther, do you have the number because I've never seen MU make a mistake like this ever. Right now the only evidence we have is the 7,900.
They were off by 1, the attendance was actually 17,900.
Quote from: Bocephys on November 08, 2016, 08:17:06 AM
They were off by 1, the attendance was actually 17,900.
;D I guess we'll know Monday.
Quote from: jsglow on November 08, 2016, 06:43:53 AM
So panther, do you have the number because I've never seen MU make a mistake like this ever. Right now the only evidence we have is the 7,900.
I put in the question, hoping to get an answer.
Quote from: mupanther on November 08, 2016, 10:24:41 AM
I put in the question, hoping to get an answer.
As I said, we'll know Monday. Thanks panther.
Starting 5 vs vandy
PG- Traci
SG - Hanni
SF- KR
PF - Hauser??
C- Luke
Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on November 08, 2016, 11:00:30 AM
Starting 5 vs vandy
PG- Traci
SG - Hanni
SF- KR
PF - Hauser??
C- Luke
JJJ has gotta be in that lineup somewhere
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't the same lineup that we had against Rockhurst...the only real debate would be Carter over Howard
Howard
Cheatham
JJJ
Reinhardt
Fisher
Bench minutes
Hauser
Carter
Wilson
Heldt
Rowsey
I will go with
Fischer
Cheatham
JJJ
Reinhardt
Howard
It could be Wojo will decide to go with experience at point, but then I would have to pick Rowsey over Carter, simply because Carter is more likely to turn the ball over.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on November 08, 2016, 03:05:00 PM
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't the same lineup that we had against Rockhurst...the only real debate would be Carter over Howard
Howard
Cheatham
JJJ
Reinhardt
Fisher
Bench minutes
Hauser
Carter
Wilson
Heldt
Rowsey
Cohen will play
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on November 09, 2016, 10:45:29 AM
Cohen will play
I actually think he will too...I just see him as the 11th guy. Will we play our whole roster? I don't know. So I left him out.
Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on November 08, 2016, 11:00:30 AM
Starting 5 vs vandy
PG- Traci
SG - Hanni
SF- KR
PF - Hauser??
C- Luke
Put KR or JJJ at sf/pf