Just for the 2017-18 season while Welsh-Ryan is being renovated.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160927/sports/160928942/
Could not get a deal with the United Center?
Quote from: Jesse Livermore on September 27, 2016, 02:54:50 PM
Could not get a deal with the United Center?
Seriously? They couldn't cover the overhead.
Finally, there's a game at the Allstate that DePaul fans might want to go to.
Quote from: buckchuckler on September 27, 2016, 03:29:15 PM
Seriously? They couldn't cover the overhead.
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DePaul was offered a deal to play in the UC for free. Why not Northwestern?
Quote from: warriorchick on September 27, 2016, 08:33:57 PM
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DePaul was offered a deal to play in the UC for free. Why not Northwestern?
Regarding DePaul, the UC wanted to keep all the parking, concession and suite revenues, and wanted DePaul to make a 10-year commitment. That was a non-starter, since DePaul wanted its own facility.
Quote from: warriorchick on September 27, 2016, 08:33:57 PM
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DePaul was offered a deal to play in the UC for free. Why not Northwestern?
I thought part of the reason for the DePaul offer was that the UC owners didn't competition from the new arena. That isn't an issue with Northwestern.
I wonder how many season ticket holders NU has and how many students will show up at the games?
Rosemont is the Wisconsn Dells for Millenials. Because of the B32, this will be a good move.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 27, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
Rosemont is the Wisconsn Dells for Millenials. Because of the B32, this will be a good move.
Fat millenials with lots of tattoos and affinities for dumb t-shirts?
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on September 27, 2016, 10:30:27 PM
I wonder how many season ticket holders NU has and how many students will show up at the games?
Welsh-Ryan holds just over 8,000.
NU averaged just over 6,900 last year.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 27, 2016, 11:31:34 PM
Fat millenials with lots of tattoos and affinities for dumb t-shirts?
Neck beards, anti-anti-perspiration and rumpled, under fitted tees make for a good, finely muddled cocktail.
Quote from: Jesse Livermore on September 27, 2016, 02:54:50 PM
Could not get a deal with the United Center?
The reality is that there are only two teams that play all of their home games at an NBA stadium. Us and Georgetown. Makes us unique but playing in an NBA arena isn't usually the best option for a college team.
Remember it is only one year as they remodel Walsh-Ryan. Since they are sinking many millions into that stadium (in addition to over $200 million in a new athletic facility on the lakefront) I cannot believe the rent of the UC for 17 dates was a deal-killer.
A school that is spending that kind of money on a new basketball stadium, and would like to see its basketball team breakthrough and get its first ever bid to the NCAA ... the novelty factor of playing in the UC for one year could be something that reminds Chicago a Big 10 basketball team exists in Chicago and maybe get some sweather-vests to consider making the trip to see them play.
Quote from: Jesse Livermore on September 28, 2016, 08:30:05 AM
Remember it is only one year as they remodel Walsh-Ryan. Since they are sinking many millions into that stadium (in addition to over $200 million in a new athletic facility on the lakefront) I cannot believe the rent of the UC for 17 dates was a deal-killer.
A school that is spending that kind of money on a new basketball stadium, and would like to see its basketball team breakthrough and get its first ever bid to the NCAA ... the novelty factor of playing in the UC for one year could be something that reminds Chicago a Big 10 basketball team exists in Chicago and maybe get some sweather-vests to consider making the trip to see them play.
Fair points. But big pro arenas and novelty factors also have downsides.
With an average attendance under 7,000, the UC for a Northwestern game risks looking like the Prudential Center for a Seton Hall game - an embarrassing number of people disguised as empty seats.
Also consider that NU would be (at best) third in line behind the Blackhawks and Bulls for dates/times. Seems plausible that UC availability might not have come close to meeting NU's needs.
Quote from: Jesse Livermore on September 28, 2016, 08:30:05 AM
Remember it is only one year as they remodel Walsh-Ryan. Since they are sinking many millions into that stadium (in addition to over $200 million in a new athletic facility on the lakefront) I cannot believe the rent of the UC for 17 dates was a deal-killer.
A school that is spending that kind of money on a new basketball stadium, and would like to see its basketball team breakthrough and get its first ever bid to the NCAA ... the novelty factor of playing in the UC for one year could be something that reminds Chicago a Big 10 basketball team exists in Chicago and maybe get some sweather-vests to consider making the trip to see them play.
I wonder if they tried to make a deal to rent DePaul new arena
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on September 28, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
I wonder if they tried to make a deal to rent DePaul new arena
That would be a terrible idea. Thats 15 miles from NW's campus in Evanston, roughly the same distance as Depaul's campus to Allstate. You would likely lose all student support due to the hour+ trip and it would have a negligible effect for alumni. The remodel of Welsh-Ryan was a much better move.
It's really not hard to figure out why Northwestern is going to AllState for a year.
It's in Rosemont.
Sincerely,
The Stephens Family
Quote from: MUDish on September 28, 2016, 09:40:08 AM
It's really not hard to figure out why Northwestern is going to AllState for a year.
It's in Rosemont.
Sincerely,
The Stephens Family
It's Rosemont! It's Rosemont!
Quote from: GooooMarquette on September 27, 2016, 10:20:25 PM
I thought part of the reason for the DePaul offer was that the UC owners didn't competition from the new arena. That isn't an issue with Northwestern.
Post of the week.
Quote from: JWags85 on September 28, 2016, 09:28:57 AM
That would be a terrible idea. Thats 15 miles from NW's campus in Evanston, roughly the same distance as Depaul's campus to Allstate. You would likely lose all student support due to the hour+ trip and it would have a negligible effect for alumni. The remodel of Welsh-Ryan was a much better move.
I meant just for the one season.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 27, 2016, 11:31:34 PM
Fat millenials with lots of tattoos and affinities for dumb t-shirts?
Specifically, Tasmanian devil tattoos with tweetie bird tees and weathered dull-pink stretch pants?
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on September 28, 2016, 12:56:25 PM
Specifically, Tasmanian devil tattoos with tweetie bird tees and weathered dull-pink stretch pants?
With a Packers tank top.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 28, 2016, 12:35:32 AM
The reality is that there are only two teams that play all of their home games at an NBA stadium. Us and Georgetown. Makes us unique but playing in an NBA arena isn't usually the best option for a college team.
And you can make a very serious argument that it's a bad idea for Georgetown.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on September 28, 2016, 10:14:50 PM
And you can make a very serious argument that it's a bad idea for Georgetown.
Do they have a viable alternative? Their on campus gym only holds 2,500, and gyms at other local schools (if they could even use them) are only in the 3,000-5,000 range. Even with their recent down seasons, GTown has averaged 8,500-9,500 per game.
Wow... sounds like some of you have been to the Dells more often than you'd like to admit recently.
Quote from: Benny B on September 29, 2016, 09:20:45 AM
Wow... sounds like some of you have been to the Dells more often than you'd like to admit recently.
Was at a recent Packer outing there...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3009/2390830654_413f0e3dee_z.jpg?zz=1)
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 29, 2016, 09:23:25 PM
Was at a recent Packer outing there...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3009/2390830654_413f0e3dee_z.jpg?zz=1)
Which Packer was outed?
Quote from: GooooMarquette on September 28, 2016, 10:39:31 PM
Do they have a viable alternative? Their on campus gym only holds 2,500, and gyms at other local schools (if they could even use them) are only in the 3,000-5,000 range. Even with their recent down seasons, GTown has averaged 8,500-9,500 per game.
The argument to be made is that Georgetown shouldn't play every game at the Verizon Center.
For example: Last year, they drew barely over 4K announced for Maryland-Eastern Shore, just short of 4700 for Brown, and 5200+ for Monmouth. Hell, they didn't break 5500 for Butler & Seton Hall.
Given the rent that they're paying on the big building, it might have been smarter to play those games on campus.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on September 30, 2016, 05:53:05 AM
The argument to be made is that Georgetown shouldn't play every game at the Verizon Center.
For example: Last year, they drew barely over 4K announced for Maryland-Eastern Shore, just short of 4700 for Brown, and 5200+ for Monmouth. Hell, they didn't break 5500 for Butler & Seton Hall.
Given the rent that they're paying on the big building, it might have been smarter to play those games on campus.
I can see the argument, but with an on-campus arena that holds about half of what they had even for their very worst-attended games, I don't think the argument is a strong one. I could maybe see it if their gym held 4,000 - 5,000, but I doubt any school would want to cut already weak attendance in half....
Recent? That was over 6 years ago.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 29, 2016, 09:23:25 PM
Was at a recent Packer outing there...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3009/2390830654_413f0e3dee_z.jpg?zz=1)
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on September 30, 2016, 10:04:01 AM
Recent? That was over 6 years ago.
I live in dog years, my man.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 29, 2016, 09:23:25 PM
Was at a recent Packer outing there...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3009/2390830654_413f0e3dee_z.jpg?zz=1)
Was this walking out after a long night?
Quote from: GooooMarquette on September 30, 2016, 08:38:24 AM
I can see the argument, but with an on-campus arena that holds about half of what they had even for their very worst-attended games, I don't think the argument is a strong one. I could maybe see it if their gym held 4,000 - 5,000, but I doubt any school would want to cut already weak attendance in half....
Do you want 2500 people packed to the rafters or do you want less than 5K in a 19K seat building? Depends on what they're paying to rent the Verizon, essentially. If 4K is their profit line, then they're fine. If it's say, 7K, well, then they're in a lot of trouble.
Even the games that are well attended at Verizon aren't being well attended by Georgetown fans. There's multiple YouTube videos of audible WE ARE MARQUETTE chants in that building.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 04, 2016, 01:15:55 AM
Do you want 2500 people packed to the rafters or do you want less than 5K in a 19K seat building? Depends on what they're paying to rent the Verizon, essentially. If 4K is their profit line, then they're fine. If it's say, 7K, well, then they're in a lot of trouble.
Even the games that are well attended at Verizon aren't being well attended by Georgetown fans. There's multiple YouTube videos of audible WE ARE MARQUETTE chants in that building.
The fact that they play at Verizon just might answer your question about their financial analysis of 2500 people in the gym vs 7000 at Verizon.
And from a financial perspective, it doesn't matter who buys the tickets - the bean counters are just as happy with MU fans as GTown fans in the stands. My guess is that DePaul likewise appreciates the extra $$$ they get whenever MU comes to town.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on September 27, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
Welsh-Ryan holds just over 8,000.
NU averaged just over 6,900 last year.
This. I go see some of the non conference games because I can sit in the third row for two bits.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on October 04, 2016, 08:51:13 AM
The fact that they play at Verizon just might answer your question about their financial analysis of 2500 people in the gym vs 7000 at Verizon.
And from a financial perspective, it doesn't matter who buys the tickets - the bean counters are just as happy with MU fans as GTown fans in the stands. My guess is that DePaul likewise appreciates the extra $$$ they get whenever MU comes to town.
Just found this out yesterday: Georgetown is playing Arkansas State in McDonough this season.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 10, 2016, 05:52:55 AM
Just found this out yesterday: Georgetown is playing Arkansas State in McDonough this season.
Sounds like a fun gimmick, like we played one inconsequential game at the Al not too long ago. Doesn't mean they should or could play there permanently.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on October 10, 2016, 10:01:43 PM
Sounds like a fun gimmick, like we played one inconsequential game at the Al not too long ago. Doesn't mean they should or could play there permanently.
It wouldn't have been an inconsequential game had MU lost.
Quote from: Benny B on October 11, 2016, 10:28:46 AM
It wouldn't have been an inconsequential game had MU lost.
It's all fun and games until someone loses a buy game.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on October 04, 2016, 08:51:13 AM
The fact that they play at Verizon just might answer your question about their financial analysis of 2500 people in the gym vs 7000 at Verizon.
And from a financial perspective, it doesn't matter who buys the tickets - the bean counters are just as happy with MU fans as GTown fans in the stands. My guess is that DePaul likewise appreciates the extra $$$ they get whenever MU comes to town.
As I understand it the Verizon center is owned by a Georgetown alum who gives them a steep discount on rent. I realize it's somewhat ironic for me to post this without a source but I believe they essentially pay what it costs to turn the lights on.