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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: moomoo on June 15, 2016, 11:52:31 AM

Title: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: moomoo on June 15, 2016, 11:52:31 AM
Reunited.

Joe hired as grad assistant for the Hokies

Good luck, Joe.

Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Nukem2 on June 15, 2016, 12:06:27 PM
Good for Joe.  He was a good teammate during his MU career.  Too bad that he had the bad wheels.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 12:07:22 PM
As Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank would say if he were a Marquette fan:

"He's Dead to Me!"

That's how I feel about the Hillbilly and about his coaching staff. Period.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: The Lens on June 15, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 12:07:22 PM
As Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank would say if he were a Marquette fan:

"He's Dead to Me!"

That's how I feel about the Hillbilly and about his coaching staff. Period.

I guess we all view 5 straight NCAA's / 3 Straight Sweet 16's / an Elite 8 / a Big East Title differently.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: NickelDimer on June 15, 2016, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 12:07:22 PM
As Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank would say if he were a Marquette fan:

"He's Dead to Me!"

That's how I feel about the Hillbilly and about his coaching staff. Period.

Nice model for behavior. Such a douchey comment
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: tower912 on June 15, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Fulce was viewed as a better prospect than JFB.  His game was compared to Shawn Marion's.  Then the knees.  I hope their professional relationship is more productive.  S16-S16-E8.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: MUCam on June 15, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Good for Joe. I always liked him; good to see him join the coaching ranks.

As for Buzz, his tenure creates great internal discord with me. I truly believed we could be a top 10 program with him here; he was quite a character and good for the program on many levels. On the other hand....
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: jsglow on June 15, 2016, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 12:07:22 PM
As Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank would say if he were a Marquette fan:

"He's Dead to Me!"

That's how I feel about the Hillbilly and about his coaching staff. Period.

It's one thing to feel that way about Buzz. Entirely different with Joe. He's a great MU alumni and I think almost all of us are pleased for him. Congrats!
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: mu03eng on June 15, 2016, 01:16:23 PM
Quote from: tower912 on June 15, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Fulce was viewed as a better prospect than JFB.  His game was compared to Shawn Marion's.  Then the knees.  I hope their professional relationship is more productive.  S16-S16-E8.

So apparently he and Marion had a lot in common.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 15, 2016, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 12:07:22 PM
As Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank would say if he were a Marquette fan:

"He's Dead to Me!"

That's how I feel about the Hillbilly and about his coaching staff. Period.

"anger management" dude, maintain-maintain man...soooo many other things to be discombobulated over ;)

   nice to see a former coach who had a lot of faith in one of his own continue to stand by him and give him a chance to take it to the next, next level as his wheels weren't going to allow him to fulfill his other dreams-good luck joseph!
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Herman Cain on June 15, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
Quote from: moomoo on June 15, 2016, 11:52:31 AM
Reunited.

Joe hired as grad assistant for the Hokies

Good luck, Joe.
This is good news. Always like to see positive things for alumni and former coaches.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Daniel on June 15, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
Joe was a good guy. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 15, 2016, 02:35:32 PM
Joe was a great guy who but for the bad knees could have been a great player. Happy for him.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Hubert Davis on June 15, 2016, 02:38:08 PM
Joe was definitely a great guy. Happy to see him make a big step in his career. Go Joe, go Buzz...

Just win baby.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: avid1010 on June 15, 2016, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: MUCam on June 15, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Good for Joe. I always liked him; good to see him join the coaching ranks.

As for Buzz, his tenure creates great internal discord with me. I truly believed we could be a top 10 program with him here; he was quite a character and good for the program on many levels. On the other hand....
i didn't mind buzz...and generally supported him.  that said, i'm not sure he was going to get us to top 10 program status.  i always felt like part of the reason he left is he had a terrible season, and he had whiffed on a recruiting class or two whose prospects weren't showing at the college level.  it made sense for him to jump ship, and in doing so he secured a large amount of $$$ for many years to come. 

there's a big difference between building a program back up to the level buzz/tc did, and maintaining that level.  so tc took us to a final four, but hasn't been able to do the same at iu, and never came close to final four status again at MU.  buzz had a nice run, and while i think all coaches have an ego...i think buzz realized how lucky he was not to get bounced earlier than he did in the tourney.  he's made nice strides at VT...but i don't think he'll ever repeat there what he did at MU. 

as for joe...class act...good luck to him, and i think it shows some class from buzz as well. 
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 15, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
Maybe his jersey will now get peddled off of Ebay, ai na?
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: brewcity77 on June 15, 2016, 04:01:36 PM
Joe was always a top class guy, and if nothing else, he has proved himself as a recruiter already since he landed a future NBA All-Star when he recruited Jimmy Butler to Marquette. Glad to see Joe stay in the game and hope he can work his way up. Always one of those guys I'd be happy to see back at Marquette.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 15, 2016, 04:14:46 PM
Very happy for Joe.  He was a classmate of mine and was always very sincere, kind and respectful with everyone he encountered.  What a wonderful opportunity for him at Tech.  I know he will make the most of it.

As for Buzz, regardless of how MU fans/alumni feel about him, a high number (probably not all) of his former players think the world of him.  He gave many an opportunity that no one else offered,  and helped the players achieve a great deal of success that many thought was not possible.  Buzz's run, which overlapped my college years, will always have a special place in my heart.  The players, the personalities, the team identity and all the successes we had were all special and memorable in their own right.  No need to bad mouth individuals that helped make our school and program reach new heights.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 15, 2016, 01:45:49 PM
"anger management" dude, maintain-maintain man...soooo many other things to be discombobulated over ;)

   nice to see a former coach who had a lot of faith in one of his own continue to stand by him and give him a chance to take it to the next, next level as his wheels weren't going to allow him to fulfill his other dreams-good luck joseph!

Look, I really liked Joe and I hope he does well.

I am extremely loyal to Marquette and the university means a lot to me. The basketball team is something that was an integral part of my growing up and I was on campus when we won in 1977. I've lived and died with Marquette ever since and was extremely hopeful about where we were going before the Hillbilly bolted.

From a sporting standpoint, I'll never get over what the Hillbilly did and how ugly he was to us. Yes, us, as we are Warrior Nation. He had a tough season and rather than manning up and doing the best he can to rebuild, he cut and ran. And the way he ran was in and of itself disgusting.

Anger management -- naah. No more than Mr. Wonderful is really in need of Anger Management. But the Hillbilly is dead to me.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 15, 2016, 05:34:54 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on June 15, 2016, 04:14:46 PM
Very happy for Joe.  He was a classmate of mine and was always very sincere, kind and respectful with everyone he encountered.  What a wonderful opportunity for him at Tech.  I know he will make the most of it.

As for Buzz, regardless of how MU fans/alumni feel about him, a high number (probably not all) of his former players think the world of him.  He gave many an opportunity that no one else offered,  and helped the players achieve a great deal of success that many thought was not possible.  Buzz's run, which overlapped my college years, will always have a special place in my heart.  The players, the personalities, the team identity and all the successes we had were all special and memorable in their own right.  No need to bad mouth individuals that helped make our school and program reach new heights.

A quibble, I admit, but the program under Buzz did not reach any new heights. 

Was never ranked the number 1 team in the country during the season
Never finished ranked second in the country.
Never came close to a record of 28-1 or 27-2.
Never won the NIT.
No final four
No loss in the NCAA championship game
No NCAA championship.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 15, 2016, 06:21:48 PM
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on June 15, 2016, 05:34:54 PM
A quibble, I admit, but the program under Buzz did not reach any new heights. 

Was never ranked the number 1 team in the country during the season
Never finished ranked second in the country.
Never came close to a record of 28-1 or 27-2.
Never won the NIT.
No final four
No loss in the NCAA championship game
No NCAA championship.

i think what golden really meant, but i could be wrong, was that between TC and buzz, they took the program back up to respectability and back into the national spotlight.  buzz sure didn't lose any ground from where TC had us given the pre-TC years dating back to duckiet.  i hesitate to put rick in that mix as i think given the chance, he would have done very well also as he ended up doing very well at utah and st. louis 
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 15, 2016, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 04:55:01 PM
Look, I really liked Joe and I hope he does well.

I am extremely loyal to Marquette and the university means a lot to me. The basketball team is something that was an integral part of my growing up and I was on campus when we won in 1977. I've lived and died with Marquette ever since and was extremely hopeful about where we were going before the Hillbilly bolted.

From a sporting standpoint, I'll never get over what the Hillbilly did and how ugly he was to us. Yes, us, as we are Warrior Nation. He had a tough season and rather than manning up and doing the best he can to rebuild, he cut and ran. And the way he ran was in and of itself disgusting.

Anger management -- naah. No more than Mr. Wonderful is really in need of Anger Management. But the Hillbilly is dead to me.



Kinda sounds a bit like T-Cubed, ai na?
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: MU82 on June 15, 2016, 10:31:18 PM
This thread title sounds like a really bad buddy-cop TV show.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: avid1010 on June 16, 2016, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 15, 2016, 04:55:01 PM
Look, I really liked Joe and I hope he does well.

I am extremely loyal to Marquette and the university means a lot to me. The basketball team is something that was an integral part of my growing up and I was on campus when we won in 1977. I've lived and died with Marquette ever since and was extremely hopeful about where we were going before the Hillbilly bolted.

From a sporting standpoint, I'll never get over what the Hillbilly did and how ugly he was to us. Yes, us, as we are Warrior Nation. He had a tough season and rather than manning up and doing the best he can to rebuild, he cut and ran. And the way he ran was in and of itself disgusting.

Anger management -- naah. No more than Mr. Wonderful is really in need of Anger Management. But the Hillbilly is dead to me.
what if MU wanted him to leave...or was at least impartial on his future at the university?
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: warriorchick on June 16, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 15, 2016, 10:31:18 PM
This thread title sounds like a really bad buddy-cop TV show.

Buzz is getting too old for this sh!t.
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 16, 2016, 03:40:57 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 16, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
Buzz is getting too old for this sh!t.

What crap is that?
Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: warriorchick on June 16, 2016, 03:44:12 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 16, 2016, 03:40:57 PM
What crap is that?

I guess you missed my Lethal Weapon reference.


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Title: Re: Fulce and Buzz
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 16, 2016, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 16, 2016, 03:44:12 PM
I guess you missed my Lethal Weapon reference.


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I did indeed.
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