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Title: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: fjm on April 21, 2016, 05:19:06 PM
Per report from Matty V on Twitter.
Also there is reporting that Christian Haffner is no longer with the team in his way on role.

@matt_velazquez 4-21-16, 1701

According to a source, redshirt junior guard Wally Ellenson is no longer part of the Marquette men's basketball team. Story coming. #mubb
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Post by: 🏀 on April 21, 2016, 05:25:18 PM
NOT HAFFNER
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Post by: The Lens on April 21, 2016, 05:28:37 PM
Wally gets a full track scholly.  That's not all bad.
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Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 21, 2016, 05:33:00 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/12wfap.jpg)
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 21, 2016, 05:34:00 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/wally-ellenson-no-longer-with-marquette-mens-basketball-team-b99711424z1-376626461.html

Sounds like he might not transfer but stay as a track athlete.  Since all he has left is one year of indoor track, which overlaps with basketball, he cannot play basketball and jump at the same time (that is if he wants to do one well).

If so, we still have not had a transfer in over a year.

Wally Ellenson, a 6-foot-6 redshirt junior guard, will not be a part of the Marquette men's basketball team next season, the program confirmed on Thursday. A dual-sport athlete in basketball and track and field — Ellenson is a four-time All-American in the high jump — he has one season of indoor track eligibility left entering 2016-'17 and can remain at Marquette on a full athletic scholarship if he chooses.

Ok, now I will read the thread about picking up another graduate transfer :)
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Post by: Shaka Shart on April 21, 2016, 05:38:52 PM
Maybe they are freeing up a scholarship for Henry to return.
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Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 21, 2016, 05:39:22 PM
Pole Vaulted, then?
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: jsglow on April 21, 2016, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: The Lens on April 21, 2016, 05:28:37 PM
Wally gets a full track scholly.  That's not all bad.

Is this confirmed somewhere?  I'm more comfortable if MU has asked Wally to focus on what's clearly his best sport while maintaining a full ride for him to finish his Marquette degree.  I know he 'wanted' to play hoops but I do see Wojo's need and desire to field the best team possible.
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Post by: cheebs09 on April 21, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
Clearly Prince's death expedited the release of this from the typical Friday news release.
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Post by: DJO's Jaw on April 21, 2016, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 21, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
Clearly Prince's death expedited the release of this from the typical Friday news release.

To be honest, it's entirely possible that's true
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 21, 2016, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: jsglow on April 21, 2016, 05:59:12 PM
Is this confirmed somewhere?  I'm more comfortable if MU has asked Wally to focus on what's clearly his best sport while maintaining a full ride for him to finish his Marquette degree.  I know he 'wanted' to play hoops but I do see Wojo's need and desire to field the best team possible.

From Matt V's article: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/wally-ellenson-no-longer-with-marquette-mens-basketball-team-b99711424z1-376626461.html

"Wally Ellenson, a 6-foot-6 redshirt junior guard, will not be a part of the Marquette men's basketball team next season, the program confirmed on Thursday. A dual-sport athlete in basketball and track and field — Ellenson is a four-time All-American in the high jump — he has one season of indoor track eligibility left entering 2016-'17 and can remain at Marquette on a full athletic scholarship if he chooses".
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: jsglow on April 21, 2016, 06:58:39 PM
Honestly, I'm feeling better about this knowing Wally's academic situation isn't being disrupted assuming he chooses to stay.  This fits in with what BD suggested a couple weeks back.  I don't think Wally has the right to expect that he'll be on the team next year if much of his two years already on campus was somewhat of a concession and where he certainly got special privileges not afforded to other basketball players.  For me, the availability of a full track ride for next year is a very big deal.

Thanks Wally.  Wear the track uniform proudly.  It's what you do best.  Prepare yourself to maximize that skill and earn your coveted Marquette degree before you leave.  In the end, that's your greatest treasure.
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: mu_hilltopper on April 21, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
Wouldn't this be perfect, really?  Wally uses a track scholly, frees up a bball scholly, then walks on to the bball team.

I mean, I know he's off the team, but that seems workable.
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: fjm on April 21, 2016, 07:11:10 PM
That would be awesome. Really Wojo had to have mentioned to Wally that he was maybe 12 or 13th off the bench at this point. I'm bummed for Wally but how bummed will we all really be if he focuses on track and makes rio? Or he misses and walks on.
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Post by: Archies Bat on April 21, 2016, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 21, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
Wouldn't this be perfect, really?  Wally uses a track scholly, frees up a bball scholly, then walks on to the bball team.

I mean, I know he's off the team, but that seems workable.

Smoke and mirrors.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 21, 2016, 07:18:48 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 21, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
Wouldn't this be perfect, really?  Wally uses a track scholly, frees up a bball scholly, then walks on to the bball team.

I mean, I know he's off the team, but that seems workable.

You can't be a walk on for basketball (or football) if you are on scholarship for track. NCAA violation.
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: reinko on April 21, 2016, 07:26:56 PM
New meme for the tourney eng.

(http://www.eclecticblue.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Smoke-Mirrors_700.png)
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: tower912 on April 21, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
damned buzz.    Oh, wait.....
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Post by: #UnleashSean on April 21, 2016, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 21, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
Wouldn't this be perfect, really?  Wally uses a track scholly, frees up a bball scholly, then walks on to the bball team.

I mean, I know he's off the team, but that seems workable.

Sorry, Miami already stole that idea.
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: mu_hilltopper on April 21, 2016, 07:52:26 PM
Meh, what do I know.
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Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 21, 2016, 08:10:07 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 21, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
Wouldn't this be perfect, really?  Wally uses a track scholly, frees up a bball scholly, then walks on to the bball team.

I mean, I know he's off the team, but that seems workable.

Currently Wally is in his fourth year of outdoor track.  He has no more eligibility.  He has one more year of indoor track, which runs November to March.  That overlaps with Basketball.

So while it is against NCAA rules as TAMU noted (or everyone can "stash" players in other sports with full rides to exceed the 13 scholarship limit), Wally cannot participate in two sports during the same season.
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Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 21, 2016, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 21, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
Wouldn't this be perfect, really?  Wally uses a track scholly, frees up a bball scholly, then walks on to the bball team.

I mean, I know he's off the team, but that seems workable.

Isn't it well established that this cannot happen?
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 21, 2016, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 21, 2016, 08:15:26 PM
Isn't it well established that this cannot happen?

NCAA doesn't allow it. Same with football. 
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 21, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
By making this announcement now, is it fair to assume Wojo has someone in mind and we should hear really soon about another transfer?  Like in a week or so?
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Post by: NotAnAlum on April 22, 2016, 07:16:30 AM
I think this is the aspect of kicking Wally off that has not been discussed.  Wojo must be pretty darn sure that he can sign one or both of the guys coming in next week.  Otherwise if MU goes into next year with the roster as it currently stands and a wasted 1 year scholarship this will have been a very bad decision.  Wally would have provided at least someone to guard a #4 and some rebounding.  Why not interview and evaluate both these recruits, get a quiet verbal from one or both and then "have the talk with Wally" the day after you have a quiet verbal in hand.  It's not like doing it this way is going to make it any less obvious what the motivation is.  I hope our coach isn't getting a little over confident in his recruiting abilities.
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: jsglow on April 22, 2016, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: NotAnAlum on April 22, 2016, 07:16:30 AM
I think this is the aspect of kicking Wally off that has not been discussed.  Wojo must be pretty darn sure that he can sign one or both of the guys coming in next week.  Otherwise if MU goes into next year with the roster as it currently stands and a wasted 1 year scholarship this will have been a very bad decision.  Wally would have provided at least someone to guard a #4 and some rebounding.  Why not interview and evaluate both these recruits, get a quiet verbal from one or both and then "have the talk with Wally" the day after you have a quiet verbal in hand.  It's not like doing it this way is going to make it any less obvious what the motivation is.  I hope our coach isn't getting a little over confident in his recruiting abilities.

He's confident.  And you know what? Kalif cleared his dance card.  Think of it.  'Son, we've freed up a scholarship for YOU. Now get your arse on a plane, take a campus tour, and sign the damn LOI. Got it?  Good.'

Oh, and there's at least one back-up plan (Gill) if that doesn't work out.  Probably others too.
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Post by: We R Final Four on April 22, 2016, 07:42:34 AM
Quote from: jsglow on April 22, 2016, 07:22:13 AM
He's confident.  And you know what? Kalif cleared his dance card.  Think of it.  'Son, we've freed up a scholarship for YOU. Now get your arse on a plane, take a campus tour, and sign the damn LOI. Got it?  Good.'

Oh, and there's at least one back-up plan (Gill) if that doesn't work out.  Probably others too.
Bingo.
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Post by: Babybluejeans on April 22, 2016, 07:53:19 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on April 22, 2016, 07:42:34 AM
Bingo.

Thirded. BD said Young is happening and BD KNOWS WOJO (Bo Jackson voice).
Title: Re: Wally no longer with team.
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 22, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 21, 2016, 07:18:48 PM
You can't be a walk on for basketball (or football) if you are on scholarship for track. NCAA violation.

Which is such a stupid rule, because everybody knows that these guys are really only there for the education. They don't actually care about playing football or basketball.
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