I started a thread on this and the mods deleted it. Hopefully this one will pass muster ...
This board has a real problem, it's Bucky. The obsession is unhealthy. You have to stop measuring MU's success or failure against them. They are as relevant as any other B1G team. Anyone care that Maryland made the s16? That is as relevant as Bucky.
Mark Few has taken Gonzaga to 17 straight NCAAs, and has them in the S16 again. I don't hear anyone getting worked up about their success versus MU.
Whatever Bucky does, or does not do, does not matter to MU. It does not matter to recruiting (see HE and Hauser), it does not matter to our conference rankings, as we are in different conferences, it does not matter to our TV market, as they are a different TV market. Stop turning this into a defacto Bucky board.
It only matters to a bunch of MU alumni that live in WI and have a serious inferiority complex, which seems to be way to many.
You need to get over it.
It is not a sick obsession when they are your main rival. Yes Gonzaga has had success and do you know who measures themselves against Gonzaga, their main rival St. Mary's.
Very well said!
If we want to be like Maryland, Gonzaga or even WI we need to start getting the right in-state recruits. Like Stone or this kid Herro from Whitnall that led a team to state semis. Kids like Herro and Diener remind me of Koenig. Why are we not looking for the next Diener out there? We have no one on this current team that has the moxie of a Diener or Koenig. Lets face it.
Quote from: GWSwarrior on March 21, 2016, 09:52:12 AM
It is not a sick obsession when they are your main rival. Yes Gonzaga has had success and do you know who measures themselves against Gonzaga, their main rival St. Mary's.
They are not our main rival. They are a team we play every year, like the 9 teams in our conference.
Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 21, 2016, 09:52:40 AM
Very well said!
If we want to be like Maryland, Gonzaga or even WI we need to start getting the right in-state recruits. Like Stone or this kid Herro from Whitnall that led a team to state semis. Kids like Herro and Diener remind me of Koenig. Why are we not looking for the next Diener out there? We have no one on this current team that has the moxie of a Diener or Koenig. Lets face it.
Duane Wilson
Luke Fischer
Henry Ellenson
Wally Ellenson
Matt Heldt
Sandy Cohen
MU has more WI players on its roster than Bucky. We actually have a rotation if 5 WI players (Du, chief, Wally, Henry and Luke)
Also, Happ, Brown and Hayes are not from WI.
Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 21, 2016, 09:52:40 AM
Very well said!
If we want to be like Maryland, Gonzaga or even WI we need to start getting the right in-state recruits. Like Stone or this kid Herro from Whitnall that led a team to state semis. Kids like Herro and Diener remind me of Koenig. Why are we not looking for the next Diener out there? We have no one on this current team that has the moxie of a Diener or Koenig. Lets face it.
Marquette just pulled in the last two co-Mr. Basketballs from Wisconsin, and you are complaining that we aren't getting the "right" in-state recruits.
Jesus Lord Almighty...
So the dude that has an obsession with Hillary's coughing fits is posting about other's unhealthy obsessions. Do I have that right?
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:35:50 AM
I started a thread on this and the mods deleted it. Hopefully this one will pass muster ...
This board has a real problem, it's Bucky. The obsession is unhealthy. You have to stop measuring MU's success or failure against them. They are as relevant as any other B1G team. Anyone care that Maryland made the s16? That is as relevant as Bucky.
Mark Few has taken Gonzaga to 17 straight NCAAs, and has them in the S16 again. I don't hear anyone getting worked up about their success versus MU.
Whatever Bucky does, or does not do, does not matter to MU. It does not matter to recruiting (see HE and Hauser), it does not matter to our conference rankings, as we are in different conferences, it does not matter to our TV market, as they are a different TV market. Stop turning this into a defacto Bucky board.
It only matters to a bunch of MU alumni that live in WI and have a serious inferiority complex, which seems to be way to many.
You need to get over it.
You dont live here do you?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 09:58:50 AM
So the dude that has an obsession with Hillary's coughing fits is posting about other's unhealthy obsessions. Do I have that right?
Keep this on the other board.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
Marquette just pulled in the last two co-Mr. Basketballs from Wisconsin, and you are complaining that we aren't getting the "right" in-state recruits.
Jesus Lord Almighty...
I wish Duane Wilson improved like Koening did
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 21, 2016, 09:59:04 AM
You dont live here do you?
I'm sorry do I need a visa to go to Wisconsin? Or do you have to take an oath of inferiority to Bucky to live in WI?
Couldn't disagree more. Teams need healthy rivalries to keep things interesting. I'm not even from WI or live there, but I despise UW and their fans and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Quote from: kryza on March 21, 2016, 10:01:42 AM
Couldn't disagree more. Teams need healthy rivalries to keep things interesting. I'm not even from WI or live there, but I despise UW and their fans and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Despising them is fine. I hate the B1G, Bucky included. Many here hate ND. But I don't see half a dozen threads stretching for pages each essentially saying we suck only because ND is the S16.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 21, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
I wish Duane Wilson improved like Koening did
You may want to look a little deeper at the stats. Koenig is a high volume player who has a worse overall shooting percentage than Duane with less assists per game.
I'm not arguing who is better, and Koenig is clearly more valuable to UW than Wilson is to MU, but let's not let emotion cloud rational thought here.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 09:58:50 AM
So the dude that has an obsession with Hillary's coughing fits is posting about other's unhealthy obsessions. Do I have that right?
Both VERY funny and a legit question.
I'm more disappointed that a conference foe, who was ranked Top 5 this year, couldn't get out of the Round of 32.
If we're a basketball conference, we should be good at basketball. Only having 1 S16 team, is disappointing.
I like Bucky being good, it makes our wins vs. them all the more sweeter.
We've won 3 of the past 5, we are getting the Mr. Basketballs and the majority of the desired in-state recruits. We're clearly winning every measurable head to head. And we're doing it during their peak, which is fun.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 21, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
I wish Duane Wilson improved like Koening did
Bucky fans have been critical of Koening all year. Last night he was a hero.
Not the case for most of the year..
BUCK PHUCKY
Just win baby.
(Just FYI, I didn't remove any UW thread .. not sure who did, sure it wasn't merged?)
I like seeing other Scoop posters talk about their misery, it makes me feel less alone.
But what I really really love is threads about how what other people post about is wrong and shouldn't be discussed. If you don't like reading it, move on, find another thread.
Deal with it. Wisconsin is an in-state rival in direct competition with us for recruits and media coverage. Their fanbase is smug, sanctimonious and excessively hypocritical. Most of us, even those of us who live outside of Wisconsin, interact with them daily and experience this first-hand. Would it have been nice to Xavier pound them? Absolutely. Should we watch in schadenfreude when His Majesty Bo Ryan turns out to be the scumbag we knew he was? Definitely. You can either ignore it or embrace it. Calling it a "Sick obsession" only makes you look self-important and smug.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:35:50 AM
I started a thread on this and the mods deleted it. Hopefully this one will pass muster ...
This board has a real problem, it's Bucky. The obsession is unhealthy. You have to stop measuring MU's success or failure against them. They are as relevant as any other B1G team. Anyone care that Maryland made the s16? That is as relevant as Bucky.
Mark Few has taken Gonzaga to 17 straight NCAAs, and has them in the S16 again. I don't hear anyone getting worked up about their success versus MU.
Whatever Bucky does, or does not do, does not matter to MU. It does not matter to recruiting (see HE and Hauser), it does not matter to our conference rankings, as we are in different conferences, it does not matter to our TV market, as they are a different TV market. Stop turning this into a defacto Bucky board.
It only matters to a bunch of MU alumni that live in WI and have a serious inferiority complex, which seems to be way to many.
You need to get over it.
I live in Illinois, so the Red Rodent is an unattractive nuisance.
Let's face it, the Rodent has almost no business being where he is now. So give Greg Gard credit and hope that whoever wins the Domer/Rodent match-up loses handily to North Carolina (they will).
As to the Rodent's appeal -- who cares. When we start playing like we're for real, I'll worry about it. Until we do and until we make the NCAA again (next year), we're just another mediocre team with significant deficiencies. I know Wojo is working on it and I'm looking forward to laughing at the Rodent the way we did back in the 1970s.
Scout a little harder. Those Mr Basketballs outside of Henry have no heart and have not improved like another poster mentioned. Fischer gets 4 boards a game most of the box scores I look at. His help side defense is comparable to Greg Monroe's of the Bucks.
Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 21, 2016, 10:21:10 AM
Scout a little harder. Those Mr Basketballs outside of Henry have no heart and have not improved like another poster mentioned. Fischer gets 4 boards a game most of the box scores I look at. His help side defense is comparable to Greg Monroe's of the Bucks.
Luke is the only other Wisconsin Mr. Basketball on the roster. If you don't think he's improved then you're simply not watching or you don't know what you're seeing, other than some numbers in the occasional box score.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 21, 2016, 10:27:57 AM
Luke is the only other Wisconsin Mr. Basketball on the roster. If you don't think he's improved then you're simply not watching or you don't know what you're seeing, other than some numbers in the occasional box score.
i do think luke has improved and im a huge Wojo doubter.
People will definitely stop talking about Bucky if we start more threads about Bucky
I wasn't even talking about Luke. I was talking Henry and Sam Hauser.
Underdogs get a lot of press. And especially underdogs that win no matter how the game goes down. It is something we have to live with until we start doing it.
I do like Hauser. That will help. Need players that aren't replicas of each other.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:54:51 AM
They are not our main rival.
You never used to annoy me and I thought you were moderately funny, but who are you to tell anyone who and who isn't our main rival? I don't post Bucky hate, but I don't like them and root against them for a variety of reasons, many of which posters here have brought up. The only "sick obsession" is your desire to stir @#$% up constantly.
Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 21, 2016, 09:52:40 AM
Very well said!
If we want to be like Maryland, Gonzaga or even WI we need to start getting the right in-state recruits. Like Stone or this kid Herro from Whitnall that led a team to state semis. Kids like Herro and Diener remind me of Koenig. Why are we not looking for the next Diener out there? We have no one on this current team that has the moxie of a Diener or Koenig. Lets face it.
Face what? That we got Ellenson and the very example you use, Diamond Stone, went to...yes, Maryland? So by that logic, the original post is spot on and we should care more about Maryland than UW.
It's always nice to beat your in-state rival like we did this year. Unfortunately the team they just knocked out beat us 3 times this year and I don't see us beating X any time soon unless we get some seriously big bodies very soon. Hauser is a nice player but does nothing to address that need.
Quote from: frozena pizza on March 21, 2016, 10:54:03 AM
It's always nice to beat your in-state rival like we did this year. Unfortunately the team they just knocked out beat us 3 times this year and I don't see us beating X any time soon unless we get some seriously big bodies very soon. Hauser is a nice player but does nothing to address that need.
Great point, Wisky has big bodies that know how to play defense, we have a smaller team that does not know how to defend, its that simple. X killed MU twice scoring
at least 90 points a game, against a good D team, 63. MU is to small and not quick enough to defend.
Quote from: RKMU123 on March 21, 2016, 10:41:01 AM
People will definitely stop talking about Bucky if we start more threads about Bucky
Well played.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:54:51 AM
They are not our main rival. They are a team we play every year, like the 9 teams in our conference.
Agree. I do not live in Wisconsin. Beating them is nice. Once that game is over on to the next one. I don't care what Wisconsin does in the NCAA
What I like about Marquette is the increased efforts of trying to make the school less local and regional and make it more National and Global. There is a long way to go. I am aware that a significant number of MU students come from Wisconsin and Illinois. However I am all for the geographic, racial, and other types of diversification as much as possible moving forward.
When your team sees its season end in the conference tourney, fans turn their attention elsewhere. When your rival is having a good run, it's only natural that would draw some of that attention. There are no MU games to discuss or much new recruiting news at the moment.
When MU makes its next run, you won't see any* threads about Wisconsin. Not an obsession so much as lack of alternative, more positive topics. (From where I'm sitting, anyway)
*I hope, anyway, but Scoop is a silly place
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:35:50 AM
I started a thread on this and the mods deleted it. Hopefully this one will pass muster ...
You talking about this thread - titled "What Goes In The Superbar and What Goes Here?". It was hardly about Bucky. Only the closing paragraph. It got moved, and answered in the Suggestions board.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=51205.0
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2016, 12:24:44 PM
You talking about this thread - titled "What Goes In The Superbar and What Goes Here?". It was hardly about Bucky. Only the closing paragraph. It got moved, and answered in the Suggestions board.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=51205.0
You have a suggestion board? I do not see a link for it on the left hand column.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 12:50:26 PM
You have a suggestion board? I do not see a link for it on the left hand column.
Is there a thread where I can recommend that the Suggestion Board be more easily located?
I agree the constant whining about how Bucky is better than us right now is obnoxious.
But to say Bucky isn't our main rival is just silly. If not them, who is?
This board has a sick obsession with suggestion boards.
Love the MU-UW rivalry (yes, it is a rivalry, the longest in school history).
But...it's also different from most others. Michigan-Ohio State, Duke-North Carolina, Alabama-Auburn — they're all in-conference rivals. Our win at the Kohl Center this year (awesome as it was) didn't help us one bit in the Big East standings. Ultimately, it's just another non-conference game. We face every conference opponent twice, and I honestly care more about how we do against Xavier and Villanova than I do against the Badgers.
I'd gladly exchange beating UW for a 12-6 conference record and an NCAA bid. Any season, any day of the week. No contest.
I bleed blue and gold. But I don't hate the Badgers; they're a great program that represents the state with pride. And I see no contradiction between those two ideas.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 21, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
Is there a thread where I can recommend that the Suggestion Board be more easily located?
Is there a thread where I can complain about your need to have a thread about said Suggestion Board being more easily located?
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 12:50:26 PM
You have a suggestion board? I do not see a link for it on the left hand column.
There's a link for it on the main page
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 21, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
Is there a thread where I can recommend that the Suggestion Board be more easily located?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=muscoop+suggestion+board
Quote from: mu03eng on March 21, 2016, 01:29:15 PM
Is there a thread where I can complain about your need to have a thread about said Suggestion Board being more easily located?
http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/forums?s=415
What is he going to cut and paste to the suggestion board?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2016, 01:34:38 PM
http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/forums?s=415
(http://i42.tinypic.com/70v1ad.jpg)
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 21, 2016, 01:27:38 PM
Love the MU-UW rivalry (yes, it is a rivalry, the longest in school history).
But...it's also different from most others. Michigan-Ohio State, Duke-North Carolina, Alabama-Auburn — they're all in-conference rivals. Our win at the Kohl Center this year (awesome as it was) didn't help us one bit in the Big East standings. Ultimately, it's just another non-conference game. We face every conference opponent twice, and I honestly care more about how we do against Xavier and Villanova than I do against the Badgers.
I'd gladly exchange beating UW for a 12-6 conference record and an NCAA bid. Any season, any day of the week. No contest.
I bleed blue and gold. But I don't hate the Badgers; they're a great program that represents the state with pride. And I see no contradiction between those two ideas.
A school doesn't have to be in your conference to have a great rivalry:
Clemson/South Carolina
Georgia/Georgia Tech
Georgetown/Maryland
Iowa/Iowa St
Kentucky/Louisville
Florida/Florida St/Miami
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 10:04:46 AM
Despising them is fine. I hate the B1G, Bucky included. Many here hate ND. But I don't see half a dozen threads stretching for pages each essentially saying we suck only because ND is the S16.
Somebody is wrong on the internet and it is Heisenberg's job to correct him. if you don't like reading about/ comparing MU to Bucky go read another thread.
Quote from: Skitch on March 21, 2016, 02:03:23 PMA school doesn't have to be in your conference to have a great rivalry:
Clemson/South Carolina
Georgia/Georgia Tech
Georgetown/Maryland
Iowa/Iowa St
Kentucky/Louisville
Florida/Florida St/Miami
No debate here. MU-UW is a great rivalry. (You could add Cincy-Xavier to the above list.) It's just different.
That's not to say the Badgers don't matter. I've been to the last four away games at the Kohl Center, and I enjoyed every minute of our victory there. It was a great win. But to me, the Badgers don't matter as much as conference opponents.
Your results may vary. To each his own.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 21, 2016, 01:09:53 PM
I agree the constant whining about how Bucky is better than us right now is obnoxious.
But to say Bucky isn't our main rival is just silly. If not them, who is?
I said that UW and the nine conference foes are our main rivals. Yet no one gets as exercised about their success like Bucky.
Again it is simple, to graduate from MU and live in WI you must have an inferiority complex that Bucky success = MU failure.
When Henry returns and we win the national championship next year we'll all just look back on this and laugh.
Sam Dekker took a shot at Marquette fans on Twitter last night. He needs to stop his sick obsession with Marquette.
Quote from: Skitch on March 21, 2016, 02:03:23 PM
A school doesn't have to be in your conference to have a great rivalry:
Clemson/South Carolina
Georgia/Georgia Tech
Georgetown/Maryland
Iowa/Iowa St
Kentucky/Louisville
Florida/Florida St/Miami
For the most part, all of those schools are large, public universities with alums all across the state. They're not the one and only state school against the small, private school with a significantly smaller fan base.
Obviously Gtown is private but it's campus is only about 20 miles from College Park. The Florida/FSU rivalries with Miami are largely a result of having dominant football programs. Florida vs. FSU is a much bigger deal.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:31:56 PM
I said that UW and the nine conference foes are our main rivals. Yet no one gets as exercised about their success like Bucky.
Again it is simple, to graduate from MU and live in WI you must have an inferiority complex that Bucky success = MU failure.
No. If you graduate from MU and live in Wisconsin, you're surrounded by non-UW alum, Badger fans, many of whom truly, honestly believe that UW has the greatest school and sports programs on earth.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:31:56 PM
I said that UW and the nine conference foes are our main rivals. Yet no one gets as exercised about their success like Bucky.
Darnit Villanova our main rival is in the Sweet 16 ::)
Bucky sucks. Fanbase, players, former coach. All suck.
Bucky Obsession may decrease after the NBE is more established and new rivalries are formed. I would prefer our biggest rival to be a conference game. Then I could ignore the trolls.
Many of us remember NoDick as far and away the biggest rivalry, no others need apply. My era had DePaul as clear number 2, but they were a great program then. Bucky was #3, and that might have been for Wisconsin natives only.
The origin of the Badger sludgy fans was December 1979. We had smacked the Vadgers around 14 times in a row. They came to the Arena and pulled out a buzzer beater by Joe Chrenelich. It was the Saturday night finals ended and I suspect a lot of people went home and left their tickets. Too many got into Badger fans hands. The Badger fans acted like they owned us walking up the hill to the State St. bars. They might have been obnoxious before that too, but we beat them 14 times in a row. Who cared.
Before that game I rooted for the Badgers except when they played MU. NFW since that night.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 21, 2016, 02:38:29 PM
No. If you graduate from MU and live in Wisconsin, you're surrounded by non-UW alum, Badger fans, many of whom truly, honestly believe that UW has the greatest school and sports programs on earth.
Except for
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern (non-revenue)
Penn State
Meaning they are about the 6th or so best sports program in the B1G
Bucky is a good middle of the pack B1G program. Both academically and athletically.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2016, 01:34:38 PM
There's a link for it on the main page
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=muscoop+suggestion+board
http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/forums?s=415
So, a secret page to send threads that displeasure you so they die quietly and out of view.
How many other hidden pages does this site have?
You call it an obsession.
I call it a way of life.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:52:17 PM
So, a secret page to send threads that displeasure you so they die quietly and out of view.
How many other hidden pages does this site have?
...he said without a touch of irony.
Quote from: kryza on March 21, 2016, 10:01:42 AM
Couldn't disagree more. Teams need healthy rivalries to keep things interesting. I'm not even from WI or live there, but I despise UW and their fans and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I have friends who went to Nebraska and hate Wisconsin fans. They said they're obnoxious and think they're better than everyone else. One even said it's the reason he stopped rooting for the Packers.
As I always say.....How do you find out where a Wisconsin alum went to college? You don't have to ask. They'll bring it up in the first 2 minutes and continue to talk about it over and over as long as you know them.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:52:17 PM
So, a secret page to send threads that displeasure you so they die quietly and out of view.
How many other hidden pages does this site have?
Why do you think we would ever disclose the secret MU Scoop pages? We're all enjoying them perfectly fine without you.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:49:29 PM
Except for
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern (non-revenue)
Penn State
Meaning they are about the 6th or so best sports program in the B1G
Bucky is a good middle of the pack B1G program. Both academically and athletically.
Northwestern???? Cmon...
Oh and a bunch of my UW friends have been posting this over the last few days.
http://www.startribune.com/is-wisconsin-the-best-athletic-program-in-the-country-badgers-have-results-streak-to-argue-their-case/372275801/
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:52:17 PM
So, a secret page to send threads that displeasure you so they die quietly and out of view.
How many other hidden pages does this site have?
LOL. "If I don't know about it, it's 'secret' and 'hidden.'"
The correct response would be "If I don't know about it, it's because I haven't been paying attention."
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:31:56 PM
I said that UW and the nine conference foes are our main rivals. Yet no one gets as exercised about their success like Bucky.
Again it is simple, to graduate from MU and live in WI you must have an inferiority complex that Bucky success = MU failure.
But you can't have 10 main rivals. You can only have one. And that is Bucky. To say otherwise is silly.
I don't think I have an inferiority complex and I don't think that Bucky success=MU failure. But I do hate when they win and I love when they lose. Has no bearing on my feelings about Marquette at all.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:52:17 PM
So, a secret page to send threads that displeasure you so they die quietly and out of view.
How many other hidden pages does this site have?
Dude, you're too funny. I'm actually laughing.
Go to your browser bar, type in "muscoop.com" (no http, no slashes, nothing else), hit "Enter" (or whatever macs have), and it takes you DIRECTLY to this page that you deem "secret". I'm sorry we made it so hard for you to find. Hahahahaha.
Quote from: tompopsicle on March 21, 2016, 02:58:36 PM
I have friends who went to Nebraska and hate Wisconsin fans. They said they're obnoxious and think they're better than everyone else. One even said it's the reason he stopped rooting for the Packers.
As I always say.....How do you find out where a Wisconsin alum went to college? You don't have to ask. They'll bring it up in the first 2 minutes and continue to talk about it over and over as long as you know them.
Husker fans mixed about traveling to Madison (http://www.omaha.com/huskers/husker-fans-mixed-about-traveling-to-madison/article_48bbda46-0b3f-5149-8b48-18a78bdaf3ef.html)
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Dude, you're too funny. I'm actually laughing.
Go to your browser bar, type in "muscoop.com" (no http, no slashes, nothing else), hit "Enter" (or whatever macs have), and it takes you DIRECTLY to this page that you deem "secret". I'm sorry we made it so hard for you to find. Hahahahaha.
And/or the pull down at the bottom of every single Scoop page for navigation between pages....but in fairness to Heisen, it's not like you showed up at his house and showed him directly how to access every board of Scoop, so you have no one to blame but yourself.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
Northwestern???? Cmon...
Oh and a bunch of my UW friends have been posting this over the last few days.
http://www.startribune.com/is-wisconsin-the-best-athletic-program-in-the-country-badgers-have-results-streak-to-argue-their-case/372275801/
No one can touch UCLA, Stanford and USC. They are so far ahead of everyone else that the mere idea that Bucky is the best embarrasses the author.
Total Number of NCAA Championships, Conference and RankUniversity of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) 113 Pac-12 Conference 1
Stanford University 108 Pac-12 Conference 2
University of Southern California (USC) 100 Pac-12 Conference 3
Oklahoma State University 51 Big 12 Conference 4
Pennsylvania State University 48
Big Ten Conference 5
University of Arkansas 43 Southeastern Conference 6
University of Texas 43 Big 12 Conference 6
Louisiana State University 43 Southeastern Conference 6
University of North Carolina 40 Atlantic Coast Conference 9
University of Michigan 36
Big Ten Conference 10
University of California, Berkeley (California) 34 Pac-12 Conference 11
University of Denver 31 The Summit League 12
University of Florida 30 Southeastern Conference 13
University of Oregon 29 Pac-12 Conference 14
University of Georgia 29 Southeastern Conference 14
University of Wisconsin 28 Big Ten Conference 16Ohio State University 28
Big Ten Conference 16
Yale University 28 Ivy League 16
University of Maryland 27
Big Ten Conference 19
University of Colorado 26 Pac-12 Conference 20
University of Iowa 25
Big Ten Conference 21
Indiana University 24
Big Ten Conference 22
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 02:52:17 PM
So, a secret page to send threads that displeasure you so they die quietly and out of view.
How many other hidden pages does this site have?
Wait, does that mean there a thread that will pleasure me?
Now THAT would be a feature enhancement.
Rocky, link please, because I'm too lazy to look for one.
Quote from: barfolomew on March 21, 2016, 04:04:42 PM
Wait, does that mean there a thread that will pleasure me?
Now THAT would be a feature enhancement.
Rocky, link please, because I'm too lazy to look for one.
Any thread that Keefe has carpet bombed with his "lady pictures"
YW
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 21, 2016, 02:38:29 PM
No. If you graduate from MU and live in Wisconsin, you're surrounded by non-UW alum, Badger fans, many of whom truly, honestly believe that UW has the greatest school and sports programs on earth.
Isn't that the job of a fan.
I understand the Badger hatred in the week before we play them. But to worry about what they do the rest of the time? "Obsession" is probably too strong of a word. I would just use "silly" instead.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 04:00:26 PM
No one can touch UCLA, Stanford and USC. They are so far ahead of everyone else that the mere idea that Bucky is the best embarrasses the author.
Total Number of NCAA Championships, Conference and Rank
University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) 113 Pac-12 Conference 1
Stanford University 108 Pac-12 Conference 2
University of Southern California (USC) 100 Pac-12 Conference 3
Oklahoma State University 51 Big 12 Conference 4
Pennsylvania State University 48 Big Ten Conference 5
University of Arkansas 43 Southeastern Conference 6
University of Texas 43 Big 12 Conference 6
Louisiana State University 43 Southeastern Conference 6
University of North Carolina 40 Atlantic Coast Conference 9
University of Michigan 36 Big Ten Conference 10
University of California, Berkeley (California) 34 Pac-12 Conference 11
University of Denver 31 The Summit League 12
University of Florida 30 Southeastern Conference 13
University of Oregon 29 Pac-12 Conference 14
University of Georgia 29 Southeastern Conference 14
University of Wisconsin 28 Big Ten Conference 16
Ohio State University 28 Big Ten Conference 16
Yale University 28 Ivy League 16
University of Maryland 27 Big Ten Conference 19
University of Colorado 26 Pac-12 Conference 20
University of Iowa 25 Big Ten Conference 21
Indiana University 24 Big Ten Conference 22
I agree with you but many of those championships are in sports that most people don't care much about. And yes that is relevant.
Quote from: tompopsicle on March 21, 2016, 02:58:36 PM
I have friends who went to Nebraska and hate Wisconsin fans. They said they're obnoxious and think they're better than everyone else. One even said it's the reason he stopped rooting for the Packers.
As I always say.....How do you find out where a Wisconsin alum went to college? You don't have to ask. They'll bring it up in the first 2 minutes and continue to talk about it over and over as long as you know them.
You are telling it wrong.
"How can you tell that someone is a Wisconsin grad?"
"Don't worry; he'll tell you."
I like it better the first way I heard it - with Notre Dame as the butt of the joke.
Other options:
Vegan
Cross-fitter
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:54:51 AM
They are not our main rival. They are a team we play every year, like the 9 teams in our conference.
They are our main rival. They are the team we are most likley going to battle over a recruit for. UW getting to sweet 16 while we sit at home doing nothing does not help us in recruiting.
Quote from: bilsu on March 21, 2016, 07:08:19 PM
They are our main rival. They are the team we are most likley going to battle over a recruit for. UW getting to sweet 16 while we sit at home doing nothing does not help us in recruiting.
And who did we lose the last few years siting home while Bucky was having tourney success?
HE, Hauser, Luke? How about Diamond Stone? How did all Bucky success work in recruiting him?
Under Buzz we recruited a different type of player than Bucky, little overlap. Under Wojo we are going after a player more similar but head-to-head Wojo looks like he had more success than Bucky to date.
Finally, if they ever get their act together (if!) Depaul will present a far bigger challenge to MU recruiting than Bucky. Likewise, if the Illini and /or Northwestern get it together, they will present a far greater challenge to Bucky than MU. (look at how many Chicago Suburban kids Bucky has had success with, MU hardly gets any of them, and has always been light on that demographic.)
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Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
Finally, if they ever get their act together (if!) Depaul will present a far bigger challenge to MU recruiting than Bucky. Likewise, if the Illini and /or Northwestern get it together, they will present a far greater challenge to Bucky than MU. (look at how many Chicago Suburban kids Bucky has had success with, MU hardly gets any of them, and has always been light on that demographic.)
Since 2010, Marquette has had one scholarship player from Chicagoland. STJ. (Excluding the Reggie Smith fiasco.) None joining in 2016. None that I can forsee in 2017.
Since that time we have had numerous players from Wisconsin, many of whom UW showed interest in if not out and out offered. (And vice versa.) We have the co-Mr. Basketball joining MU next year. We are recruiting against UW for his brother.
Marquette will be recruiting against UW for the foreseeable future. Likely more than any other school out there.
Reading this thread I was thinking about commenting on how you (heisy) have a pattern of casting an extreme position that a few extremest take (in this case Wiscy is doing good so MU suffers) and projecting it on the moderate majority of those that don't completely see things your way (in this case those unfortunate MU grads that complain about their daily interactions with pompous Wiscy 'fans') without being able to differentiate between the two perspectives.**
However, with the secret board stuff, you may be through the looking glass.
**applies to any other board.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 08:54:32 PM
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Since 2010, Marquette has had one scholarship player from Chicagoland. STJ. (Excluding the Reggie Smith fiasco.) None joining in 2016. None that I can forsee in 2017.
Since that time we have had numerous players from Wisconsin, many of whom UW showed interest in if not out and out offered. (And vice versa.) We have the co-Mr. Basketball joining MU next year. We are recruiting against UW for his brother.
Marquette will be recruiting against UW for the foreseeable future. Likely more than any other school out there.
Agreed, but in the past the existence of a successful Bucky has not been a hindrance to MU in recruiting. And going forward, MU is recruiting against a Greg Gard Bucky, not a Bo Ryan Bucky. Big difference.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
And who did we lose the last few years siting home while Bucky was having tourney success?
HE, Hauser, Luke? How about Diamond Stone? How did all Bucky success work in recruiting him?
Under Buzz we recruited a different type of player than Bucky, little overlap. Under Wojo we are going after a player more similar but head-to-head Wojo looks like he had more success than Bucky to date.
Finally, if they ever get their act together (if!) Depaul will present a far bigger challenge to MU recruiting than Bucky. Likewise, if the Illini and /or Northwestern get it together, they will present a far greater challenge to Bucky than MU. (look at how many Chicago Suburban kids Bucky has had success with, MU hardly gets any of them, and has always been light on that demographic.)
Dude you need to poop, your seriously starting to sound like duanewade, it's ok for people to disagree and/or having differing opinions. It doesn't mean you're are wrong, that the great thing about opinions, they cannot be either right or wrong (less than informed...yes).
You don't think Wisconsin is out main rivalry, I along with many people do think they are.
So it comes down to this:
Either you started this thread simply troll, in which case you should find a new book to read( I highly recommend a great one title "I Dissent, 10 of the greatest Supreme Court Dissents" read it while pooping) or you just cannot stand anybody having an opinion other than yours, in which case maybe sites like this are not for you.
Either way, you should check out the book.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:11:33 PM
Agreed, but in the past the existence of a successful Bucky has not been a hindrance to MU in recruiting. And going forward, MU is recruiting against a Greg Gard Bucky, not a Bo Ryan Bucky. Big difference.
Depends on what you mean by "hindrance." UW has gotten players Marquette has wanted and vice versa. Has it prevented both of them from being successful at the same time? No. Both have recruited alternatives.
And I have no idea how you can state the second sentence yet. You have no idea what the Gard era will bring.
Greg Gards UW may be harder to recruit against than Bo"s. Just a thought. Hard to swallow.
Quote from: jaygall31 on March 21, 2016, 10:19:47 PM
Greg Gards UW may be harder to recruit against than Bo"s. Just a thought. Hard to swallow.
Greg Gard knew about multiple indiscretions within the program and did nothing about it. The current regime may be no more moral than Bo's. Just a thought. Easy to swallow.
Quote from: GWSwarrior on March 21, 2016, 09:24:20 PM
Dude you need to poop, your seriously starting to sound like duanewade, it's ok for people to disagree and/or having differing opinions. It doesn't mean you're are wrong, that the great thing about opinions, they cannot be either right or wrong (less than informed...yes).
You don't think Wisconsin is out main rivalry, I along with many people do think they are.
So it comes down to this:
Either you started this thread simply troll, in which case you should find a new book to read( I highly recommend a great one title "I Dissent, 10 of the greatest Supreme Court Dissents" read it while pooping) or you just cannot stand anybody having an opinion other than yours, in which case maybe sites like this are not for you.
Either way, you should check out the book.
Ok, I just dropped a deuce and I still think your most important rivals are conference foes. That said, Bucky is still significant,
Does anyone else want to justify their inferiority complex about Bucky?
Quote from: naginiF on March 21, 2016, 10:54:32 PM
Greg Gard knew about multiple indiscretions within the program and did nothing about it. The current regime may be no more moral than Bo's. Just a thought. Easy to swallow.
You need a brush-up on 2016 NCAA hoops "ethics"......
An assistant college basketball coach is under no obligation, and in no position, to rat on his de facto employer. Much more kosher is the head coach making the assistant his "fall guy" for matters the head coach knew about, and probably even encouraged (Pitino).
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 10:58:48 PM
Ok, I just dropped a deuce and I still think your most important rivals are conference foes. That said, Bucky is still significant,
Does anyone else want to justify their inferiority complex about Bucky?
So your just straight up trolling. At least you owned up to the fact that your a douche with no life
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
And who did we lose the last few years siting home while Bucky was having tourney success?
HE, Hauser, Luke? How about Diamond Stone? How did all Bucky success work in recruiting him?
Under Buzz we recruited a different type of player than Bucky, little overlap. Under Wojo we are going after a player more similar but head-to-head Wojo looks like he had more success than Bucky to date.
The past does not matter. The grinch is gone. Gard is the new coach on the block, just like Wojo was two years ago. I felt that Wojo was in good position to recruit against Bo. Now that dyanmic between the two programs has changed. Only time will tell how it turns out, but do not throw past history in, because the competition for recruits is not the same as it was last year.
Quote from: jaygall31 on March 21, 2016, 10:19:47 PM
Greg Gards UW may be harder to recruit against than Bo"s. Just a thought. Hard to swallow.
We'll see. So far he has brought in a grand total of 0 recruits. Not that he should have in this limited amount of time. I will wait a few years to see if he can win with his own guys before passing judgement.
There is a process. It must be respected.
"Under Buzz we recruited a different type of player than Bucky, little overlap. Under Wojo we are going after a player more similar but head-to-head Wojo looks like he had more success than Bucky to date."
You're an idiot.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 21, 2016, 11:32:22 PM
We'll see. So far he has brought in a grand total of 0 recruits. Not that he should have in this limited amount of time. I will wait a few years to see if he can win with his own guys before passing judgement.
There is a process. It must be respected.
In 2016, they have two open slots, with zero commits. If Hayes goes pro, it's three.
In 2017, they will have four open slots and they have one commit, Kobe King.
The next two years will be critical for them, so lets see what Gard can do.
Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2016, 06:59:39 AM
In 2016, they have two open slots, with zero commits. If Hayes goes pro, it's three.
In 2017, they will have four open slots and they have one commit, Kobe King.
The next two years will be critical for them, so lets see what Gard can do.
Hayes will not go pro. Had a rough season by his standards and he doesnt exactly fit the NBA mold.
Hayes will be a good Euro player some day
A friend on mine is a good friend of Dekker. Saw this on his Twitter feed. The "obsession" must work both ways. Certainly not a "rival."
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 22, 2016, 07:55:31 AM
Hayes will not go pro. Had a rough season by his standards and he doesnt exactly fit the NBA mold.
Hayes will be a good Euro player some day
He's not exactly interested in school.
He's had a down year but still has good measurables. It wouldn't shock me at all if he left.
Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2016, 06:59:39 AM
In 2016, they have two open slots, with zero commits. If Hayes goes pro, it's three.
I am fairly certain they only have one open slot. The one vacated when Dearring transferred mid year. They have no scholarship seniors.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 22, 2016, 09:02:11 AM
I am fairly certain they only have one open slot. The one vacated when Dearring transferred mid year. They have no scholarship seniors.
Got it from this:
wisconsin basketball recruits commits
Sorry, link didn't copy. But it lists two slots open. Just google it and it will show a chart.
Yep. You're right. I was counting one of their redshirts as a scholarship player.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 21, 2016, 02:34:47 PM
Sam Dekker took a shot at Marquette fans on Twitter last night. He needs to stop his sick obsession with Marquette.
Sam Dekker was, is, and always will be an enormous douche
I... LIKE... BEN... BRUST and I cannot lie.
You other brothers can't deny...
(Taught that to my 7-year-old daughter when he played for them.
It was cute as hell til she found out the real words two years later.
Now I just get glares from her mother.)
Took to page 4 and this thread has descended into obsessing over Bucky. Amazing how worked up everyone gets about this, and how every one this board that does not live in WI thinks you're a bunch of fools.
Is it a requirement to live in WI without a UW degree to assume a position of inferiority or does it just come naturally?
(https://theinnerdoor.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/must_not_feed_the_troll.jpg)
Wait until they get to Elite Eight with this less than stellar team, then it will get really bad here.
Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 22, 2016, 11:33:18 AM
Wait until they get to Elite Eight with this less than stellar team, then it will get really bad here.
Wait until they win it all
I don't see that happening but they could get by Notre Dame.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
And who did we lose the last few years siting home while Bucky was having tourney success?
HE, Hauser, Luke? How about Diamond Stone? How did all Bucky success work in recruiting him?
Under Buzz we recruited a different type of player than Bucky, little overlap. Under Wojo we are going after a player more similar but head-to-head Wojo looks like he had more success than Bucky to date.
This narrative is a little over used. In year one, UW had one opening and landed the big ten freshman of the year. In year two, the only athlete that MU/UW competed for was Henry. Without offering his brother, maybe he goes elsewhere.
Herro and Joey Hauser on the other hand.. That will be a big recruiting battle for both schools. Wisconsin is in good shape with Herro, and hopefully Joey. Hard to turn down the opportunity to play with your brother, so maybe an MU lean.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 22, 2016, 10:45:40 AM
Took to page 4 and this thread has descended into obsessing over Bucky. Amazing how worked up everyone gets about this, and how every one this board that does not live in WI thinks you're a bunch of fools.
Is it a requirement to live in WI without a UW degree to assume a position of inferiority or does it just come naturally?
You bear a striking resemblance to Sam Dekker.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 23, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
This narrative is a little over used. In year one, UW had one opening and landed the big ten freshman of the year. In year two, the only athlete that MU/UW competed for was Henry. Without offering his brother, maybe he goes elsewhere.
Herro and Joey Hauser on the other hand.. That will be a big recruiting battle for both schools. Wisconsin is in good shape with Herro, and hopefully Joey. Hard to turn down the opportunity to play with your brother, so maybe an MU lean.
How would this differ if UW was bubble team/NIT level the last few years?
The assumption in this thread if UW success in the last few years has made it more difficult to recruit against them. How much does recent success give one school versus the other in recruiting against each other?
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 23, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
Herro and Joey Hauser on the other hand.. That will be a big recruiting battle for both schools. Wisconsin is in good shape with Herro, and hopefully Joey. Hard to turn down the opportunity to play with your brother, so maybe an MU lean.
WRT to Herro and Hauser, I think it might be the opposite.
It's simple for me.
I want to throw up whenever I think of the douche nozzles on Badger Nation enjoying a NC.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 23, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
This narrative is a little over used. In year one, UW had one opening and landed the big ten freshman of the year. In year two, the only athlete that MU/UW competed for was Henry. Without offering his brother, maybe he goes elsewhere.
Herro and Joey Hauser on the other hand.. That will be a big recruiting battle for both schools. Wisconsin is in good shape with Herro, and hopefully Joey. Hard to turn down the opportunity to play with your brother, so maybe an MU lean.
From what I've heard, both are an MU lean. But there's a long way to go.