Brian's first year as coach of the Bradley Braves.... 5-27. Anyone know what happened?
They are rebuilding
And GB won the horizon with Wardle's guys.
Quote from: alexius23 on March 09, 2016, 10:19:46 PM
Brian's first year as coach of the Bradley Braves.... 5-27. Anyone know what happened?
They lost 8 scholarship players during the offseason. Complete rebuild.
The poor guy is cursed:
Plays at MU until 2001
MU makes 2002 NCAA
Coaches at MU until 2005
MU makes 2006 NCAA
Coaches at UWGB until 2015
UWGB makes 2016 NCAA
Quote from: The Lens on March 09, 2016, 11:07:40 PM
The poor guy is cursed:
Plays at MU until 2001
MU makes 2002 NCAA
Coaches at MU until 2005
MU makes 2006 NCAA
Coaches at UWGB until 2015
UWGB makes 2016 NCAA
Or .... it's always good when he goes away.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 09, 2016, 10:35:41 PM
They lost 8 scholarship players during the offseason. Complete rebuild.
GB lost 80-percent of their scoring from the 2014-15 season. Coach Linc Darner was able to patch things together and bring in two impact JUCO players. Darner is a heck of a coach. If Wardle would have stayed Green Bay would have been a .500 team.
Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on March 09, 2016, 11:14:39 PM
GB lost 80-percent of their scoring from the 2014-15 season. Coach Linc Darner was able to patch things together and bring in two impact JUCO players. Darner is a heck of a coach. If Wardle would have stayed Green Bay would have been a .500 team.
63% actually but yes, Darner did a heck of a job.
Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on March 09, 2016, 11:14:39 PM
If Wardle would have stayed Green Bay would have been a .500 team.
source?
The situation that Wardle inherited was beyond horrible. AD situation was sharty. I think you will see a resurgent BU in a year or two.
Was Bradley a step up or sideways? Or get out of Dodge?
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 09, 2016, 11:42:03 PM
Was Bradley a step up or sideways? Or get out of Dodge?
MVC > Horizon
Man, Wardle had two guys that are/were sniffing the NBA and he still couldn't get UWGB to the NCAA tournament. He had the two time player of the year, the defensive player of the year, a guy that was first team defense every year. What more did he need? One more conference tourney win. Then this guy comes in from the division 2 level and takes a 4th place team to the tourney for the first time in 20 years!. Frankly, I would rather have the dance then a regular season championship and a loss in the conference tourney.
Let's deal with reality for a second.
UWGB had an ok year, but did great for 3 games. Suddenly the coach is great? Maybe.
Wardle did very well throughout the regular season over 5 months for several years, but because they lost in the championship game of the tournament he's not a good coach? He had a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finished teams at UWGB.
Fans crack me up.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 10, 2016, 12:54:19 AM
Let's deal with reality for a second.
UWGB had an ok year, but did great for 3 games. Suddenly the coach is great? Maybe.
Wardle did very well throughout the regular season over 5 months for several years, but because they lost in the championship game of the tournament he's not a good coach? He had a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finished teams at UWGB.
Fans crack me up.
I was thinking the same exact thing.
Wardle produced two great regular seasons at UWGB. He did his job. I'm not bagging on the guy since Linc has them dancing. I was more lamenting his timing.
It's not like he did nothing with Alex & Keifer, he won the league twice.
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2016, 11:32:14 PM
source?
It was a big step up in salary. GB is the worst paying job or one of the worst paying jobs in the Horizon League.
Quote from: schubert33 on March 10, 2016, 09:20:58 AM
It was a big step up in salary. GB is the worst paying job or one of the worst paying jobs in the Horizon League.
Thus the reason they hired a DII coach and prayed for the best.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 10, 2016, 09:42:30 AM
Thus the reason they hired a DII coach and prayed for the best.
They hired probably the best D2 coach in the country, who has accomplished more than Wardle has. It was an upgrade.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 10, 2016, 12:54:19 AM
Let's deal with reality for a second.
UWGB had an ok year, but did great for 3 games. Suddenly the coach is great? Maybe.
Wardle did very well throughout the regular season over 5 months for several years, but because they lost in the championship game of the tournament he's not a good coach? He had a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finished teams at UWGB.
Fans crack me up.
well done! brian's a good guy. got a bad rap for pushing one of his players to excel...? no safe zones back then?
as for coach darner, didn't he get a commitment from one of the top players in the state?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 10, 2016, 10:01:05 AM
well done! brian's a good guy. got a bad rap for pushing one of his players to excel...? no safe zones back then?
as for coach darner, didn't he get a commitment from one of the top players in the state?
Trevor Anderson. Point guard from SPASH and Sam Hauser's teammate. He's gonna love that system.
10 freshmen on that Bradley team. Wow.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/roster/_/id/71/sort/experience
Weren't we after Mike Shaw when he committed to Illinois?
(yes, http://bleacherreport.com/articles/501769-illinois-basketball-recruiting-mike-shaw-to-make-decision-thursday-night)
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 10, 2016, 10:01:05 AM
as for coach darner, didn't he get a commitment from one of the top players in the state?
Yes. Trev Anderson from Stevens Point committed to UWGB. Teammates with the Hauser bros. I thought Anderson committed a little early and would have had better options if he had waited a bit -- not crazy high options, but moderately better. For some reason I thought he would go the Zak Showalter route and end up at WI. He's not as athletic as Showalter but I think his game is better in all other facets, especially shooting. I said it a few weeks ago, but I think Anderson wins the WI Player of Year this year.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 10, 2016, 09:50:59 AM
They hired probably the best D2 coach in the country, who has accomplished more than Wardle has. It was an upgrade.
Seems so now. If he loses next week's NCAA game and then has three straight 20-loss seasons and then is fired, will he have been an upgrade? That is NOT a prediction, BTW. I'm just saying that it's way too early to declare anything.
And I'm just a little leery of those (not necessarily you, Sultan) who claim to know unequivocally that Wardle would not have gotten this UWGB team to the Dance. I'd love to have that magical power.
As usual, it's opinion presented as fact, something we're real good at here in Scoopland. (I've been guilty of the same myself, though I try hard not to do it.)
Quote from: MU82 on March 10, 2016, 10:15:32 AM
Seems so now. If he loses next week's NCAA game and then has three straight 20-loss seasons and then is fired, will he have been an upgrade? That is NOT a prediction, BTW. I'm just saying that it's way too early to declare anything.
And I'm just a little leery of those (not necessarily you, Sultan) who claim to know unequivocally that Wardle would not have gotten this UWGB team to the Dance. I'd love to have that magical power.
As usual, it's opinion presented as fact, something we're real good at here in Scoopland. (I've been guilty of the same myself, though I try hard not to do it.)
It is obviously simply my opinion that Darner was an upgrade. But if you look at his track record, you can see how successful he has been. Took over two bottom feeder D2 programs, got one to the playoffs and got another the D2 championship. His teams play an exciting style, and I like his coaching philosophy. Wants his players playing loose. After the Wright State game he said something like "sometimes teams pass too much. They make seven passes and the first one ends up the best one."
I think Wardle is an OK coach, but I thought his teams played too tight at times. He overcoaches them IMO. And then there was that whole player incident which I hope he learned from.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 10, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
It is obviously simply my opinion that Darner was an upgrade. But if you look at his track record, you can see how successful he has been. Took over two bottom feeder D2 programs, got one to the playoffs and got another the D2 championship. His teams play an exciting style, and I like his coaching philosophy. Wants his players playing loose. After the Wright State game he said something like "sometimes teams pass too much. They make seven passes and the first one ends up the best one."
I think Wardle is an OK coach, but I thought his teams played too tight at times. He overcoaches them IMO. And then there was that whole player incident which I hope he learned from.
I am agnostic on Wardle. I think I saw two UWGB games during his era, including a win over us, and no Bradley games this season. I'm not sticking up for him at all. I simply am leery of declarative statements when they are opinions.
I also have not seen a single Darner-coached game. I'll try hard to watch UWGB's tourney game ... unless it conflicts with ours - ha! I have heard good things about him. Who knows ... he might be our next coach after Wojo leaves for Duke following the third straight S16-or-better run!!
Quote from: brandx on March 09, 2016, 11:09:24 PM
Or .... it's always good when he goes away.
How do I like this? ;)
If this becomes an axiom of sorts, he should be blessed as it equates to job security for life!
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 10, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
After the Wright State game he said something like "sometimes teams pass too much. They make seven passes and the first one ends up the best one."
That has always been my thought on how to play. The sole purpose of running an offense is to get good shots on every possession. What difference does it make if that is after one pass or seven passes.
Of course there are times at the end of games where you need to run some clock, but as far as your basic offense, I like what he says.
Three freshman recruits have just transferred out of Bradley. I have a concern over the player turnover rate Wardle has had as a head coach.
Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on March 11, 2016, 07:29:57 PM
Three freshman recruits have just transferred out of Bradley. I have a concern over the player turnover rate Wardle has had as a head coach.
Well it depends who they were. He had 10 freshmen, he needed some to "move on".
Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on March 11, 2016, 07:29:57 PM
Three freshman recruits have just transferred out of Bradley. I have a concern over the player turnover rate Wardle has had as a head coach.
Still has 7 left! Probably a great thing in balancing classes and I would guess some were there to fill out the bench anyway.
I like to see our alumni do well as it reflects well on MU. Wardle was a very good player for us and I was very happy to see his success at UWGB. Hopefully he can get the Bradley program going strong soon. I will be rooting for him.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 11, 2016, 10:16:15 PM
I like to see our alumni do well as it reflects well on MU. Wardle was a very good player for us and I was very happy to see his success at UWGB. Hopefully he can get the Bradley program going strong soon. I will be rooting for him.
thank you! he is basicly a good guy-no harm no foul...go get 'em brian!
Quote from: T-Bone on March 11, 2016, 08:47:34 PM
Still has 7 left! Probably a great thing in balancing classes and I would guess some were there to fill out the bench anyway.
Tough to sell Peoria.