Just announced.
Announced where?
If so, that is the Grinchiest of moves--leave your team high and dry in the middle of the first year that you might not make the NCAA tournament. Par for the course, Bo.
Confirmed.
What a puss. I respect him but what!? Afraid to finish the season? Crazy!
All over Twitter
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14378183/wisconsin-badgers-coach-bo-ryan-retiring-effective-immediately
Lol, the only way to keep that streak of top 4 finishes in the Big 10 in tact. Good riddance
Here's the announcement.
https://twitter.com/BigTenNetwork/status/676985846747308034
Guy is 67 and in an extremely stressful job. I wouldn't call him a puss until we know there isn't healthy problems or family pushing him to retire.
So long, Grinch!
Who's taking over on an interim basis? Didn't we kinda predict this happening when it was clear they weren't going to just hire his anointed successor?
It was an honor to enjoy his final defeat!
Gard should kiss Bo's feet. The team was mediocre with Bo coaching, and now Gard gets a chance to work to improve Bucky. If they do anything at all in the BT, Gard gets all the credit and gets to keep the job. If they don't, he might not get to keep the job but his reputation isn't stained and maybe he'll get a head-coaching job elsewhere.
Last game coached was a loss to Marquette. So this is our fault, aina?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 15, 2015, 10:52:17 PM
Last game coached was a loss to Marquette. So this is our fault, right?
They just beat TAMU Corpus Christi.
This is 100% him making sure his guy is the coach.
Quote from: MU82 on December 15, 2015, 10:50:30 PM
It was an honor to enjoy his final defeat!
Gard should kiss Bo's feet. The team was mediocre with Bo coaching, and now Gard gets a chance to work to improve Bucky. If they do anything at all in the BT, Gard gets all the credit and gets to keep the job. If they don't, he might not get to keep the job but his reputation isn't stained and maybe he'll get a head-coaching job elsewhere.
But what a disservice to the students. I actually feel bad for them.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 15, 2015, 10:52:58 PM
They just beat TAMU Corpus Christi.
This is 100% him making sure his guy is the coach.
Exactly this.
Didn't he flip out on someone for leaving early? For not committing to the team for the full year?
Quote from: wadesworld on December 15, 2015, 10:52:58 PM
They just beat TAMU Corpus Christi.
This is 100% him making sure his guy is the coach.
Ah yes. And yes I totally agree. Gard will be the coach for 3 months. What's the point? To "give him a shot".
K
Buzz to Wisconsin
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 15, 2015, 10:47:29 PM
Guy is 67 and in an extremely stressful job. I wouldn't call him a puss until we know there isn't healthy problems or family pushing him to retire.
Or some other reason...
Screw that guy. AMF!
I really think this was the only way Gard was getting the job.
I like Bo. He's a good dude. I hate his brand of basketball, but I absolutely love that he stayed in the UW system for 40 years
I hope he's not ill
At least we'll always have this from his last game.
Brace yourself
Shaka and Tony Bennett to UW claims are coming.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 15, 2015, 10:52:58 PM
They just beat TAMU Corpus Christi.
This is 100% him making sure his guy is the coach.
My first thought when I heard the news. UW is a young, inexperienced team that is gonna get better as the year goes on. And if they do, Gard will be kept.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 15, 2015, 11:01:18 PM
Or some other reason...
There have been rumors of something going on behind the scenes. Anyone know anything about this?
Does Barry step in and coach the team for the rest of the year?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 15, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
Brace yourself
Shaka and Tony Bennett to UW claims are coming.
Supposedly TB's new contract last spring has an enormous buyout except for one school...
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 15, 2015, 11:01:18 PM
Or some other reason...
I've heard this too, don't know how much I believe it, although it came from two different ITK people.
Goodnight Mr. Ryan, and all the ships at sea.
Quote from: The Deane Team on December 15, 2015, 11:13:48 PM
Does Barry step in and coach the team for the rest of the year?
Barry joked at the press conference that if a bowl game was coming up, he coach, haha.
I'm not from WI, so maybe someone here can help me, but how the hell is Barry an AD at a place like UW. He seems like a relic, an AD from the 70s who's around to shake hands, kiss babies and tell old war stories. I get it, he built UW football, but I think the modern AD at a power program requires a bit more.
Quote from: MUDPT on December 15, 2015, 11:19:16 PM
Supposedly TB's new contract last spring has an enormous buyout except for one school...
I doubt it. The whole point of that reworked contract was to keep him from UW.
I thought he looked pretty out of it during the marquette game. Not his usual Grinch self, not very animated and didn't argue hardly any calls.
Pls hire gard
Quote from: wadesworld on December 15, 2015, 10:52:58 PM
They just beat TAMU Corpus Christi.
This is 100% him making sure his guy is the coach.
Yup. Forces the emperor to put Gard in as coach, at least for now.
Quote from: MUsoxfan on December 15, 2015, 11:03:19 PM
I like Bo. He's a good dude. I hate his brand of basketball, but I absolutely love that he stayed in the UW system for 40 years
I hope he's not ill
His brand of basketball last year was unbelievable to watch. When he got the right players, it was beautiful. When he didn't have the right players, it was downright ugly.
Best coach Wisconsin ever had. Goes for all sports.
Terrible situation for Gard. Unless he wins immediately (and I can't see better than 9-9 in league, that might even be overly generous) he'll be let go. Does he get another shot right away? Might not be as easy for a guy who couldn't make it work as a HC versus a guy who was a hot young assistant.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 16, 2015, 12:00:27 AM
His brand of basketball last year was unbelievable to watch. When he got the right players, it was beautiful. When he didn't have the right players, it was downright ugly.
Yes. You said it perfectly.
Wisconsin head coaches.....conditions so bad they quit before the season ends
Dick Bennett
Bo Ryan
Gary Anderson
Bret Bieliema
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 16, 2015, 12:01:26 AM
Best coach Wisconsin ever had. Goes for all sports.
Terrible situation for Gard. Unless he wins immediately (and I can't see better than 9-9 in league, that might even be overly generous) he'll be let go. Does he get another shot right away? Might not be as easy for a guy who couldn't make it work as a HC versus a guy who was a hot young assistant.
I don't know. Bob Johnson would get my vote.
He wants to set Gard up for success. If they have a winning record in the Big Ten it will be tough for Alvarez to hire someone else.
Bo arguing that he wanted to step down last year but Gard's dad was dying so didn't want Greg to have to deal with that and new coaching job. Now that Gard's father has died he has time to take the position (So Bo can leave).
To other's point, it is really about Gard. I will give Bo credit that he has a lot of loyalty to Gard. It Gard ends up being good for the program this looks great. If not, to me it seems like Gard > UW Program in Bo's eyes.
There may be more to this story than what currently meets the eye. I heard a rumor about this late last week and not willing to share it, but if true, makes this a very interesting story.
Andy Katz said the thing that pushed Bo into retirement was the MU lost.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14378338/wisconsin-coach-bo-ryan-earned-right-walk-away-whenever-wanted
Must have finally been offered the lead in the traveling road show musical version of the Grinch. Wiscy fans finally have karma come home to roost.
Quote from: Goose on December 16, 2015, 04:39:53 AM
There may be more to this story than what currently meets the eye. I heard a rumor about this late last week and not willing to share it, but if true, makes this a very interesting story.
Come on goose. Out with it
Bo got boned. More ways than one...
I'll give Madison this, when they commit to a story, they really go all in.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 16, 2015, 06:06:41 AM
I'll give Madison this, when they commit to a story, they really go all in.
Explanation?
Honestly, I didn't see anything about this until this morning
So what's the dirt? If we can't speculate on UW rumors here, then what's the point of Scoop?
Yeah. Out with the conspiracy theories. The more lurid the better.
Quote from: Goose on December 16, 2015, 04:39:53 AM
There may be more to this story than what currently meets the eye. I heard a rumor about this late last week and not willing to share it, but if true, makes this a very interesting story.
Bo's side piece?
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 16, 2015, 06:06:41 AM
I'll give Madison this, when they commit to a story, they really go all in.
Come on Brew, you should know that Communists love propaganda ;)
Genius move on Bo's part. Wasn't gonna win the Gard pissin' scrum with Sir Barry. So, he figured he'd paint Alvarez inta a corner where he had no choice but ta hire Gard. His interim status is essentially a workin' interview, ai na?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 16, 2015, 06:46:40 AM
Genius move on Bo's part. Wasn't gonna win the Gard pissin' scrum with Sir Barry. So, he figured he'd paint Alvarez inta a corner where he had no choice but ta hire Gard. His interim status is essentially a workin' interview, ai na?
While certainly Bo's objective, I don't think Barry is in a corner at all. He'll do a comprehensive search.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 16, 2015, 06:46:40 AM
Genius move on Bo's part. Wasn't gonna win the Gard pissin' scrum with Sir Barry. So, he figured he'd paint Alvarez inta a corner where he had no choice but ta hire Gard. His interim status is essentially a workin' interview, ai na?
Right, he probably had this planned all along. There is obviously a pissing match going on between Bo and Barry. Except this will probably back fire on Bo and Gard because Alvarez isn't going to let them get their way no matter what Gard does. On top of that Wisconsin sucks this year so Bo set up Gard for failure.
How many transfers are we going to see? If I were a player at UW-Madison I'd be pissed. I didn't sign up for a losing team with a no-name coach.
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This is fantastic for the world
Quote from: jsglow on December 16, 2015, 06:59:04 AM
While certainly Bo's objective, I don't think Barry is in a corner at all. He'll do a comprehensive search.
Maybe. But I'm sure that Michigan and UCLA both planned to do comprehensive search the day Bill Frieder and Jim Harrack left.
Fisher's and Lavin's respective performances in their interim roles made it nearly impossible for their teams to do anything other than remove the interim tag.
Bo's timing was set up to give Gard has his shot at the head coaching job. If he succeeds--either by winning or by landing some big-time recruits--it will be pretty difficult for Wisconsin to hire anyone else.
This could give some new life to the MU/Wisco rivalry if they get a big name.... not that there wasn't already enough hate there, but just something fresh, maybe building a new era of the rivalry with two young coaches.
Quote from: The Equalizer on December 16, 2015, 07:37:39 AM
Maybe. But I'm sure that Michigan and UCLA both planned to do comprehensive search the day Bill Frieder and Jim Harrack left.
Fisher's and Lavin's respective performances in their interim roles made it nearly impossible for their teams to do anything other than remove the interim tag.
Bo's timing was set up to give Gard has his shot at the head coaching job. If he succeeds--either by winning or by landing some big-time recruits--it will be pretty difficult for Wisconsin to hire anyone else.
Barry walks on water to Wisconsin fans. If he wants to do a search and hire someone else no one is going to say anything regardless of what Gard does. Alvarez will get his way in the end.
Unless he signed another extension after last season it looks like Bennett's buyout isn't that big. Started at $1.4M but goes down $200K each season. That would make his buyout only $1M after this season.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/tony-bennett-signs-seven-year-contract-extension-to-coach-virginia-mens-basketball/2014/06/03/e82d718e-eb69-11e3-93d2-edd4be1f5d9e_story.html
Nothing but respect. Competition brings out the best in all of us. Congratulations to Bo on a great career.
Bo cooled on UW
Quote from: The Equalizer on December 16, 2015, 07:37:39 AM
Maybe. But I'm sure that Michigan and UCLA both planned to do comprehensive search the day Bill Frieder and Jim Harrack left.
Fisher's and Lavin's respective performances in their interim roles made it nearly impossible for their teams to do anything other than remove the interim tag.
Bo's timing was set up to give Gard has his shot at the head coaching job. If he succeeds--either by winning or by landing some big-time recruits--it will be pretty difficult for Wisconsin to hire anyone else.
No disagreement from me. But those are two HUGE ifs.
People shouldnt dismiss the idea of Tony Bennett to Wisconsin so quickly. At least at one point in his career, it was his dream job. IDK what hes thinking now
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 16, 2015, 08:33:30 AM
People shouldnt dismiss the idea of Tony Bennett to Wisconsin so quickly. At least at one point in his career, it was his dream job. IDK what hes thinking now
It's my understanding when he renegotiated his contract last year there were significant roadblocks for him to get out of the contract for Wisconsin specifically.
That is the interesting question though, assuming Gard doesn't lose the interim tag, who is the most likely person to take that job. In theory it would be Bennett but I'm not sure he can/wants to take the job. They aren't going to the Rob Jeter path if they aren't going Gard.....so that about exhausts the Bo/Bennett coaching tree.
Would they go to a coach with a totally different style of play? If so, this could be a longer rebuild because it's not like Wisconsin was pulling in top 100 talent, they were much more of a system play than a talent play.
I'm doubly glad for our win on Saturday. Had UW won, he probably would have made that his last game, and we'd have to hear about him going out with a remarkable come from behind win over MU.
Quote from: mu03eng on December 16, 2015, 08:43:36 AM
It's my understanding when he renegotiated his contract last year there were significant roadblocks for him to get out of the contract for Wisconsin specifically.
That is the interesting question though, assuming Gard doesn't lose the interim tag, who is the most likely person to take that job. In theory it would be Bennett but I'm not sure he can/wants to take the job. They aren't going to the Rob Jeter path if they aren't going Gard.....so that about exhausts the Bo/Bennett coaching tree.
Would they go to a coach with a totally different style of play? If so, this could be a longer rebuild because it's not like Wisconsin was pulling in top 100 talent, they were much more of a system play than a talent play.
Podcast, podcast, podcast. (Or did you record it already 10 minutes prior to the announcement?)
Quote from: mu03eng on December 16, 2015, 08:43:36 AM
It's my understanding when he renegotiated his contract last year there were significant roadblocks for him to get out of the contract for Wisconsin specifically.
True, and the way Bo's posse treated his dad's move with Soderberg probably doesn't help.
Quote from: mu03eng on December 16, 2015, 08:43:36 AM
Would they go to a coach with a totally different style of play? If so, this could be a longer rebuild because it's not like Wisconsin was pulling in top 100 talent, they were much more of a system play than a talent play.
They could do a lot worse than Ben Jacobson at UNI. Stylistically, they're not far off how UW used to play. The transition wouldn't be as bad for the current roster.
Still looks like the Planet of the Apes boss when he has a "What kind of a call was that' expression
Quote from: jsglow on December 16, 2015, 08:22:50 AM
No disagreement from me. But those are two HUGE ifs.
Agreed. I think this move essentially guarantees Gard is gone. If they can't beat Western Illinois and UWM with Bo, I seriously doubt they'll go over .500 in the Big Twelethirfourteen with Gard.
And how does a coach with "interim" in the title and an AD who clearly doesn't support him get big-time recruits?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 16, 2015, 08:33:30 AM
People shouldnt dismiss the idea of Tony Bennett to Wisconsin so quickly. At least at one point in his career, it was his dream job. IDK what hes thinking now
has anyone on here dismissed that idea? I for one think that it will be Tony B. next year.
Bennett's contract was re-worked to try and keep him away from Becky:
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4649272-tony-bennett-uva-contract-ncaa-basketball (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4649272-tony-bennett-uva-contract-ncaa-basketball)
I think it will be Bennett or Smart.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 16, 2015, 02:27:35 AM
Bo arguing that he wanted to step down last year but Gard's dad was dying so didn't want Greg to have to deal with that and new coaching job. Now that Gard's father has died he has time to take the position (So Bo can leave).
My brother said that he heard this was a compromise worked out between Bo and Barry and was supposed to take place this fall, but Gard's dad was diagnosed with cancer earlier this year and died just in in October. Bo stayed on until Gard was ready. (Not that Barry was happy about this.)
And yes there are rumors than a personal issue (not health) is pushing Bo into retirement.
Quote from: Goose on December 16, 2015, 08:57:49 AM
I think it will be Bennett or Smart.
Smart isn't leaving Texas. It's a better job than UW.
A lot of people are dismissing Bennett but I think that is more likely.
Bob and Brian radio show (not a sports show) said this this am.
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 16, 2015, 08:56:50 AM
has anyone on here dismissed that idea? I for one think that it will be Tony B. next year.
Bennett just signed a new contract, part of which he agreed to increase his buyout to $3M if he leaves UVA before March of 2018. This came after Bo announced his 1 year plan to retire. I think Bennett's a smart enough guy to know that he'd be on the top of UW's list of replacements for Bo. I also think he's smart enough to not agree to a 3 year extension and nearly double his buyout if he thought UW would be in his plans a year later.
King Rice to UW
Quote from: wadesworld on December 16, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
Bennett just signed a new contract, part of which he agreed to increase his buyout to $3M if he leaves UVA before March of 2018. This came after Bo announced his 1 year plan to retire. I think Bennett's a smart enough guy to know that he'd be on the top of UW's list of replacements for Bo. I also think he's smart enough to not agree to a 3 year extension and nearly double his buyout if he thought UW would be in his plans a year later.
Hes not paying that buyout and if donor(s) want him that seems like a small hurdle to jump over.
What a complete douche
http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/bo-ryan-retires-as-head-coach-from-university-of-wisconsin-basketball/
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 16, 2015, 09:12:58 AM
Hes not paying that buyout and if donor(s) want him that seems like a small hurdle to jump over.
How the donors react is going to be interesting. Bo did a great job cultivating a cadre of boosters to the basketball program. Do those boosters have a loyalty to Bo's guy?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 09:00:30 AM
And yes there are rumors than a personal issue (not health) is pushing Bo into retirement.
You can either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
Unfortunately for Bo, he is an undead vampire. This was inevitable.
If Diamond Stone went to Madison, does Bo make this announcement yesterday?
Heisenberg
Diamond or not he would have made that decision IMO.
Quote from: PTM on December 16, 2015, 07:23:58 AM
This is fantastic for the world
Think Oscar Wilde when he said, 'every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.' But also think Neil Young. 'The fork in the road, light a candle'. Instead of cursing the darkness, let's light a candle for where we're going. This was fantastic for the world. We are better people for having been here. It was absolutely incredible. I'm inspired. I don't know when I'll ever sleep again.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 16, 2015, 08:33:30 AM
People shouldnt dismiss the idea of Tony Bennett to Wisconsin so quickly. At least at one point in his career, it was his dream job. IDK what hes thinking now
What boy doesn't dream about having his dad's job when he grows up? I wanted to be the guy who drove the dump truck at construction sites when I was about 4 years old... but I still went to college.
Quote from: Goose on December 16, 2015, 04:39:53 AM
There may be more to this story than what currently meets the eye. I heard a rumor about this late last week and not willing to share it, but if true, makes this a very interesting story.
I'll put what I know out there (in order from most certain to most speculative):
1) Behind closed doors, Bo and Barry aren't as adversarial about the next coach as they are letting on.
2) The bottom line here is that the UW faithful doesn't want another Soderberg episode... they (like us circa I4) want a big name coach to come in and pick up where Bo left off. But ask anyone who knows Barry personally, and they'll say that's not going to happen; Barry is the alpha at UW and he's loathe to hire someone who may steal his thunder.
3) So Gard now gets the job, and Barry catches no heat because the faithful are willing to write this off as having no other choice. As previously stated, if Gard can do better than .500 in conference (which he likely will), the faithful step back from the ledge and Barry can remove his interim tag in March without blow back.
4) Where this (potentially) gets super interesting is how in the world could the faithful be satisfied by a .500 season after consecutive Final Fours??? It's all about expectations, frankly... or the management of said expectations. The implication here is that the season is already lost and even a .500 finish would be a major accomplishment for Gard (meriting a permanent job as HC). The school of thought here is that lowering the bar with three home OOC losses was either a) a very fortunate circumstance or b) a calculated move by Bo (who would not have done so without Barry's complicity). I don't think that Bo intended to "throw" any of these games, but the way they played WIU and UWM (and to a certain extent, MU), it was completely out of character for a Bo Ryan team. If you watched the UW @ Syracuse game, they played "Bo Ryan basketball" in that game, so why did they abandon what's worked for over a decade at UW vs. WIU and UWM? Perhaps his approach was to simply keep the games close and see what happens.
I still think, at the end of the season, Jeter will be interviewed (whether it's announced publicly or not) to appease the regents' AA emphasis. I'm sure there will be rumors that other coaches are interviewed even if they're not with convenient excuses (contract buyouts, etc.) to help UW save face. But whatever happens going forward, this much I know... Barry and Bo are on the same page.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on December 16, 2015, 09:21:47 AM
You can either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
Unfortunately for Bo, he is an undead vampire. This was inevitable.
There is a 50% chance he will die from this trauma.....next to a log....behind his house in Wisconsin this summer.
So does this mean the rumors that Bo has been cheating on Mrs. Bo are true?
Quote from: Litehouse on December 16, 2015, 09:30:39 AM
So does this mean the rumors that Bo has been cheating on Mrs. Bo are true?
I can neither confirm, nor deny this. ;)
Quote from: Benny B on December 16, 2015, 09:30:15 AM
I still think, at the end of the season, Jeter will be interviewed (whether it's announced publicly or not) to appease the regents' AA emphasis. I'm sure there will be rumors that other coaches are interviewed even if they're not with convenient excuses (contract buyouts, etc.) to help UW save face. But whatever happens going forward, this much I know... Barry and Bo are on the same page.
I think Barry and Bo are making the best of a bad situation, but I wouldn't go so far as saying they are on the same page. Nothing I have heard indicates that's the case.
Good riddance to a guy who didn't graduate his players: https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/03/24/march-madness-top-courts-but-wisconsin-badgers-bottom-graduation-rates/I8LIg6FKwrz1nK250NKaJJ/story.html
Crean to Wisconsin
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 09:34:24 AM
I think Barry and Bo are making the best of a bad situation, but I wouldn't go so far as saying they are on the same page. Nothing I have heard indicates that's the case.
Well, to the extent that being on the same page means that Barry is cheating on Cindy, then no, I don't think they're on the same page. But relative to the "Barry vs. Bo feud" that was being reported back in August, the two agree over the succession plan.
Quote from: Sheriff on December 16, 2015, 09:44:06 AM
Crean to Wisconsin
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Quote from: Benny B on December 16, 2015, 09:45:55 AM
Well, to the extent that being on the same page means that Barry is cheating on Cindy, then no, I don't think they're on the same page. But relative to the "Barry vs. Bo feud" that was being reported back in August, the two agree over the succession plan.
They have agreed to the immediately succession plan, but Barry has done so grudgingly. Everything I have heard is that he is grumpy about being put into this place where he basically had to put Gard in place. But this was the only guaranteed way Gard gets a shot at being head coach albiet on an interim basis.
Now Gard may indeed end up with the job full time, but that won't be because Bo and Barry are holding hands and singing kum-ba-ya together.
If the rumors are true and what is being insinuated is true then, considering its Bo Ryan doing these things,
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Quote from: We R Final Four on December 16, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
There is a 50% chance he will die from this trauma.....next to a log....behind his house in Wisconsin this summer.
Good to see you've found your way to Scoop, Big Cat.
That Big Cat article just fellates Bo.
How underwhelmed would you be as UW fan coming off the National Championship game to give the reins to Greg Gard? The guy's been getting pulled around by Bo since Platteville, it's like that old guy in your office getting the promotion just because he's been there longest. Sucks for them I guess.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 16, 2015, 12:09:20 AM
I don't know. Bob Johnson would get my vote.
You are absolutely correct
https://twitter.com/clubtrillion/status/677150746681438208
@[Mark Titus]Honest question, what would his rep be if he never made the Final Four the last 2 years?
Quote"Good-not-great coach who overachieved with what he had but never contended bc he couldn't adapt to new era of CBB."
I'd say that's pretty accurate. Final fours validated all he had ever done.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 09:51:54 AM
They have agreed to the immediately succession plan, but Barry has done so grudgingly. Everything I have heard is that he is grumpy about being put into this place where he basically had to put Gard in place. But this was the only guaranteed way Gard gets a shot at being head coach albiet on an interim basis.
Humor me for a moment.... if you were Barry and had been planning to hire Gard for the past several years, yet were critically concerned about how donors and boosters (who are still sour about the Soderberg hiring and want someone higher profile) may react, how would you portray yourself to the public? Lay it straight or smoke & mirrors?
Bo is the perfect fall guy... he's the best coach they've ever had and no one can stay mad at him for wanting to retire at his age. Barry's cachet in Madison has lost its luster over time, and he still has to deal with everyone after Bo heads to Naples. Gard has been "in waiting" for a few years now, and Barry & Bo couldn't be handling this in front of the public any better.
Heck, the UW alums in my office are actually
looking forward to seeing what Gard can do, just 3-4 months after spouting off about how they will be pissed if Bo's eventual replacement is anything less than Shaka or Tony.
MU Athletics' public relations dept. could stand to learn a lesson here. Then again, the average UW alum/fan isn't as well-versed in cutting through the BS as we are.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 16, 2015, 12:09:20 AM
I don't know. Bob Johnson would get my vote.
And I would put Barry Alvarez ahead of both of them.
I grew up in Madison as a huge hockey fan, but establishing a college hockey program from scratch in the 1960s was much "easier" than building a mortibund football program from nothing. And in college athletics these days, football is *MUCH* more important for a P5 school than any other sport. I mean UW hockey is in tatters right now, and no one really cares.
In fact the only coaches I think that can rival what Alvarez did at Wisconsin in the last 30 years are Snyder at Kansas State, Spurrier at Florida and Bellotti at Oregon. (Not that I am saying that he is a better coach than Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, etc. Just that he built something from near nothing. Those guys didn't.)
I think it is safe to say that the team of Shalala, Richter and Alvarez have everything to do with UW's success in many sports - not just football. UW's athletic program may have been at the bottom of the B10 before those guys came along. Last year it was third in revenue behind only Ohio State and Michigan.
Will Greg Gard be dedicated to sticking to the running game?
Maybe Saul Phillips? He has some tourney experience and is from Reedsburg, WI. and look where he went to school. Funny name good coach.
Saul Phillips
Basketball Coach
Saul Edward Phillips is an American college basketball head coach for the Ohio Bobcats. Phillips is a graduate of University of Wisconsin–Platteville. Wikipedia
Born: October 11, 1972 (age 43), Reedsburg, WI
Spouse: Nicole Phillips
Education: University of Wisconsin–Platteville
Team: Ohio Bobcats men's basketball
Quote from: Benny B on December 16, 2015, 10:17:46 AM
Humor me for a moment.... if you were Barry and had been planning to hire Gard for the past several years, yet were critically concerned about how donors and boosters (who are still sour about the Soderberg hiring and want someone higher profile) may react, how would you portray yourself to the public? Lay it straight or smoke & mirrors?
Bo is the perfect fall guy... he's the best coach they've ever had and no one can stay mad at him for wanting to retire at his age. Barry's cachet in Madison has lost its luster over time, and he still has to deal with everyone after Bo heads to Naples. Gard has been "in waiting" for a few years now, and Barry & Bo couldn't be handling this in front of the public any better.
Heck, the UW alums in my office are actually looking forward to seeing what Gard can do, just 3-4 months after spouting off about how they will be pissed if Bo's eventual replacement is anything less than Shaka or Tony.
MU Athletics' public relations dept. could stand to learn a lesson here. Then again, the average UW alum/fan isn't as well-versed in cutting through the BS as we are.
Benny I love you, but this is deep end crazy even for you. :)
You are basically saying that Barry and Bo are conspiring to get the fan base to accept Greg Gard as the next coach. So Greg Gard is so awesome as a coach that they would orchestrate one of the most bizarre conspiracies to ensure the fan base will accept a coach who Barry and Bo already think will be amazing??? If Gard's the guy, Barry makes him the guy, nobody questions Barry in Madison.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 10:21:56 AM
In fact the only coaches I think that can rival what Alvarez did at Wisconsin in the last 30 years are Snyder at Kansas State, Spurrier at Florida and Bellotti at Oregon. (Not that I am saying that he is a better coach than Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, etc. Just that he built something from near nothing. Those guys didn't.)
Agreed.
Although he's a little outside the 30-year window, it's similar to what Schnellenberger did at Miami. Hired in '79 to lead a team that hadn't been to a bowl since 1967, they went from a sub-.500 program to National Champions in 5 seasons.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 16, 2015, 10:40:37 AM
Agreed.
Although he's a little outside the 30-year window, it's similar to what Schnellenberger did at Miami. Hired in '79 to lead a team that hadn't been to a bowl since 1967, they went from a sub-.500 program to National Champions in 5 seasons.
Good call. And I should give some of Oregon's success to Rich Brooks too.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 10:41:54 AM
Good call. And I should give some of Oregon's success to Rich Brooks too.
And Florida's success to Charley Pell who, though he was a notorious cheater, took the Gators from 0-10-1 his first season to four straight winning seasons, including 9-2-1 his final year. Pell led a similar turnaround in his two years at Clemson.
Quote from: mu03eng on December 16, 2015, 10:39:57 AM
Benny I love you, but this is deep end crazy even for you. :)
You are basically saying that Barry and Bo are conspiring to get the fan base to accept Greg Gard as the next coach. So Greg Gard is so awesome as a coach that they would orchestrate one of the most bizarre conspiracies to ensure the fan base will accept a coach who Barry and Bo already think will be amazing??? If Gard's the guy, Barry makes him the guy, nobody questions Barry in Madison.
It was a hypothetical... the point is that what Barry and Bo are saying publicly may not be what's actually being discussed behind closed doors. It doesn't have to be a full-blown conspiracy. It could simply be - as I said - the management of expectations (i.e. public relations).
Sometimes, making the right decision forces you to eschew the popular one, and sometimes you have to stretch the truth and/or put on a bit of a show for your constituency in order to ensure a soft landing, especially when you're dealing with boosters and donors who could put the brakes on your revenues on a whim.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 16, 2015, 12:01:26 AM
Best coach Wisconsin ever had. Goes for all sports.
Terrible situation for Gard. Unless he wins immediately (and I can't see better than 9-9 in league, that might even be overly generous) he'll be let go. Does he get another shot right away? Might not be as easy for a guy who couldn't make it work as a HC versus a guy who was a hot young assistant.
Never cared for Bo, but you are right about him being the best coach, Brew Guy did tons with many times limited talent.
People are saying he did it now to get Gard the job. Maybe so. Not sure Alvarez sees it that way. He likely already has some candidtes in mind, probably including Gard. Likely Bennet and others.
Quote from: jsglow on December 16, 2015, 06:59:04 AM
While certainly Bo's objective, I don't think Barry is in a corner at all. He'll do a comprehensive search.
Agreed.
Quote from: WolverineWarrior85 on December 16, 2015, 08:57:05 AM
Bennett's contract was re-worked to try and keep him away from Becky:
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4649272-tony-bennett-uva-contract-ncaa-basketball (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4649272-tony-bennett-uva-contract-ncaa-basketball)
The taxpayers pockets run deep.
Quote from: MU B2002 on December 16, 2015, 07:10:17 AM
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131018143443/sonicfanchara/images/3/3b/Well_bye.jpg)
Kurt Russell gave Booth the final bye as they waded into the stream. The guy deserved it, too. Pretty poor shooting.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 16, 2015, 11:21:31 AM
The taxpayers pockets run deep.
Love him or hate him, it doesn't bode well for UW that Scott Walker is governor.
Quote from: ronald dragon on December 15, 2015, 11:00:35 PM
Buzz to Wisconsin
This would be great fun. Just think of the gnashing of teeth of the Buzz slurpers when MU and UW play. Root for MU or continue to slurp on the buzz? Oh the agony!!
Doubt if Wiscy would be that dumb.
Quote from: Benny B on December 16, 2015, 11:22:52 AM
Love him or hate him, it doesn't bode well for UW that Scott Walker is governor.
Bennett is making around $2M with a $3M buyout. They'd have to fork over at least $5.5M the first year, while at the same time matching or exceeding Chryst's contract. Even if Bennett was interested, which I highly doubt, I just can't see how they'd justify that expenditure.
How about Michelle O's brother? That would be a perfect fit for commie land.
Gary Parrish's candidates (all fairly obvious):
Greg Gard
Tony Bennett
Ben Jacobson
Saul Phillips
Bryce Drew
Wayne Tinkle
Rob Jeter
Quote from: Pakuni on December 16, 2015, 11:47:19 AM
Gary Parrish's candidates (all fairly obvious):
Greg Gard
Tony Bennett
Ben Jacobson
Saul Phillips
Bryce Drew
Wayne Tinkle
Rob Jeter
Wayne Tinkle??? Because he was born in Milwaukee? I can't think of any other reason why Parrish would think he would be considered.
Quote from: Pakuni on December 16, 2015, 11:47:19 AM
Gary Parrish's candidates (all fairly obvious):
Greg Gard
Tony Bennett
Ben Jacobson
Saul Phillips
Bryce Drew
Wayne Tinkle
Rob Jeter
Wayne Tinkle would feel like Gary Anderson 2.0, I can't see the Red Nation being pleased with that
Quote from: Pakuni on December 16, 2015, 11:47:19 AM
Gary Parrish's candidates (all fairly obvious):
Greg Gard
Tony Bennett
Ben Jacobson
Saul Phillips
Bryce Drew
Wayne Tinkle
Rob Jeter
Yikes. Underwhelming.
Wayne Tinkle! I want Wayne Tinkle! Imagine the headlines....
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 16, 2015, 11:21:31 AM
The taxpayers pockets run deep.
Why don't Wojo or Buzz show up on this list?
I know the legend of King Barry and his UUUuuuge egoand need to be the big dog, BUT.........
He's gotta be out the door soon too. Why tie your legacy to Greg F Gard? Isn't it better to go out as the guy who hired ****Tony Bennett**** (or whoever).
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 16, 2015, 11:59:43 AM
Wayne Tinkle! I want Wayne Tinkle! Imagine the headlines....
Tinkle? That can't be real.
That's a name that way back when at Ellis Island Mr. Tinkle tells the man in the blue uniform, "My name is Smith, sir! S-M-I-T-H!"
So if UW-Madison would have beat Marquette last weekend, would the announcement have come then? I wonder if this announcement was pushed out of the weekend because we won and he couldn't go out on a loss.
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Last night was the last game of the semester. Thats why it was announced now.
Big hire for Alvarez after screwing up Andersen. I guarantee it will be a guy who runs a squeaky clean program and knows that their academic requirements will handcuff him. Bo wasn't a great recruiter and really wouldn't take in transfers which was dumb.
Are people even remotely serious about Buzz or Crean? :o
He was a great coach for UW and I wish hm the best in his retirement.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 16, 2015, 09:27:18 AM
If Diamond Stone went to Madison, does Bo make this announcement yesterday?
If my uncle had a vagina, he'd be my aunt, ai na?
Quote from: keefe on December 16, 2015, 12:06:52 PM
Tinkle? That can't be real.
That's a name that way back when at Ellis Island Mr. Tinkle tells the man in the blue uniform, "My name is Smith, sir! S-M-I-T-H!"
His son Tres is a freshman on the team and second in scoring this year (behind Gary Payton II.) Just wait for the poor kid to miss a buzzer-beater: "Tinkle Gets Rim."
As for the matter at hand...
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3062741/barad-dur-o.gif)
Happy to see him quit Respected his results but thought he conducted himself poorly. I think between Bennett and Bo the Badgers have had a long enough period of success that they will be fine no matter who they pick to coach them after this season.
From an MU perspective I would prefer they stick with Guard and not hire some young and upcoming coach like Archie Miller.
Quote from: Sylvester78 on December 16, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Last night was the last game of the semester. Thats why it was announced now.
Big hire for Alvarez after screwing up Andersen. I guarantee it will be a guy who runs a squeaky clean program and knows that their academic requirements will handcuff him. Bo wasn't a great recruiter and really wouldn't take in transfers which was dumb.
Are people even remotely serious about Buzz or Crean? :o
Good to see you buy into the Becky propaganda machine
Quote from: Sylvester78 on December 16, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
knows that their academic requirements will handcuff him.
you gotta be f#cking sh1tting me...
Quote from: mik ekinsellaMVP on December 16, 2015, 12:56:09 PM
His son Tres is a freshman on the team and second in scoring this year (behind Gary Payton II.) Just wait for the poor kid to miss a buzzer-beater: "Tinkle Gets Rim."
Tres Tinkle, hey?
Quote from: Sylvester78 on December 16, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
and knows that their academic requirements will handcuff him.
See Ron Dayne.
They have had at least 5 FB players not accepted in to school in the last 2-3 years including some really good ones.
You believe what you want but don't be silly:
http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Article/Should-Wisconsin-reduce-academic-requirements-for-athletes-34871032
http://www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/temple-academic-admissions-an-issue-at-wisconsin-but-andersen-should-have-known-better-121114
For the purpose of comparison, let's examine the admission standards for incoming freshmen at Nebraska, Ohio State and Michigan State -- three teams Wisconsin figures to compete with annually for Big Ten championships. As the website 30mileradius.com points out, Nebraska has "guaranteed admissions" with lower standards than Wisconsin, and the notion that other schools harbor fewer expectations is well-founded in several cases.
At Wisconsin, 13 high school credits must be considered "core college preparatory" classes (four years of English, three years of math, three years of natural science and three years of social science). However, unlike other institutions, Wisconsin also requires an additional four electives, which can include foreign language, fine arts, computer science or other academic areas. That last addition very well could be the difference between landing some talented prospects with marginal coursework.
Nebraska requires 14 of those so-called "core" units, adding a fourth year of math. But the school only asks for two other units coming from a foreign language for a total of 16 academic course units. Ohio State's minimum course unit requirement also is 16, while Michigan State's is only 14.
At Wisconsin? That number is, at minimum, 17.
It's all about the core credit requirements. I only know because I mentor a kid who is good enough to play football at either but got into Mich St very quickly but not Wisky...yet.
See ya, Grinch.
Go Warriors.
It is expected that people will claim that his career was a paean to nobility but I think the guy was a sore loser and nasty sonuvabitch.
His presser after losing to Duke or what he did to that Uthoff kid is all one needs to know about the character of one Bo Ryan.
Adios Mother F#cker. College basketball is a better place without your toxic personality.
Quote from: Sylvester78 on December 16, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
They have had at least 5 FB players not accepted in to school in the last 2-3 years including some really good ones.
You believe what you want but don't be silly:
http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Article/Should-Wisconsin-reduce-academic-requirements-for-athletes-34871032
http://www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/temple-academic-admissions-an-issue-at-wisconsin-but-andersen-should-have-known-better-121114
For the purpose of comparison, let's examine the admission standards for incoming freshmen at Nebraska, Ohio State and Michigan State -- three teams Wisconsin figures to compete with annually for Big Ten championships. As the website 30mileradius.com points out, Nebraska has "guaranteed admissions" with lower standards than Wisconsin, and the notion that other schools harbor fewer expectations is well-founded in several cases.
At Wisconsin, 13 high school credits must be considered "core college preparatory" classes (four years of English, three years of math, three years of natural science and three years of social science). However, unlike other institutions, Wisconsin also requires an additional four electives, which can include foreign language, fine arts, computer science or other academic areas. That last addition very well could be the difference between landing some talented prospects with marginal coursework.
Nebraska requires 14 of those so-called "core" units, adding a fourth year of math. But the school only asks for two other units coming from a foreign language for a total of 16 academic course units. Ohio State's minimum course unit requirement also is 16, while Michigan State's is only 14.
At Wisconsin? That number is, at minimum, 17.
It's all about the core credit requirements. I only know because I mentor a kid who is good enough to play football at either but got into Mich St very quickly but not Wisky...yet.
Dirty secret, what a core unit is comprised of is an interpretation of NCAA guidelines. Wisconsin does "require" 17 core units, but those extra units could be underwater basket weaving if the admissions office deemed it worth. Requiring 3 extra core units allows them to say they have higher standards when they really don't. If they want an athlete and they meet NCAA standards, Wisconsin can get them in.
It's a risk-reward proposition for admissions, for every PJ Hill you take in you have to have a John Urschel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Urschel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Urschel)). Their admissions aren't higher than anyone elses. The NCAA dings you on volume of poor academics not on individuals who have questionable academics.
Quote from: Sylvester78 on December 16, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
They have had at least 5 FB players not accepted in to school in the last 2-3 years including some really good ones.
You believe what you want but don't be silly:
http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Article/Should-Wisconsin-reduce-academic-requirements-for-athletes-34871032
http://www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/temple-academic-admissions-an-issue-at-wisconsin-but-andersen-should-have-known-better-121114
For the purpose of comparison, let's examine the admission standards for incoming freshmen at Nebraska, Ohio State and Michigan State -- three teams Wisconsin figures to compete with annually for Big Ten championships. As the website 30mileradius.com points out, Nebraska has "guaranteed admissions" with lower standards than Wisconsin, and the notion that other schools harbor fewer expectations is well-founded in several cases.
At Wisconsin, 13 high school credits must be considered "core college preparatory" classes (four years of English, three years of math, three years of natural science and three years of social science). However, unlike other institutions, Wisconsin also requires an additional four electives, which can include foreign language, fine arts, computer science or other academic areas. That last addition very well could be the difference between landing some talented prospects with marginal coursework.
Nebraska requires 14 of those so-called "core" units, adding a fourth year of math. But the school only asks for two other units coming from a foreign language for a total of 16 academic course units. Ohio State's minimum course unit requirement also is 16, while Michigan State's is only 14.
At Wisconsin? That number is, at minimum, 17.
It's all about the core credit requirements. I only know because I mentor a kid who is good enough to play football at either but got into Mich St very quickly but not Wisky...yet.
Yeah Ron Dayne was admitted to UW almost 20 years ago.
Lot of indications that things have changed since then.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
Yeah Ron Dayne was admitted to UW almost 20 years ago.
Lot of indications that things have changed since then.
There is this narrative out there, started and perpetuated by UW Madison people, that the state college of Wisconsin is some sort of citadel of higher academic achievement.
What Madison really is is a school for east coast kids who couldn't get into an Ivy. Madison is a good school; it is hardly great.
Quote from: keefe on December 16, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
There is this narrative out there, started and perpetuated by UW Madison people, that the state college of Wisconsin is some sort of citadel of higher academic achievement.
What Madison really is is a school for east coast kids who couldn't get into an Ivy. Madison is a good school; it is hardly great.
I wasn't saying it was a great school. I was saying that they don't make the same types of admissions exceptions for athletes like they used to.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 16, 2015, 01:33:13 PM
See Ron Dayne.
And, more recently, their honor student John Clay.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 02:11:17 PM
I wasn't saying it was a great school. I was saying that they don't make the same types of admissions exceptions for athletes like they used to.
Sultan
I wasn't taking the piss out of you but just furthering on your post.
I am always amused at how Madison people attach so much singularity cachet to their diploma. It is especially galling when they make comparisons with a Marquette education.
Movie Scene:
Young woman in NYC: "I went to the University of Wisconsin!"
Subtitle at the bottom of the screen: "I couldn't get into Vassar..."
Quote from: keefe on December 16, 2015, 02:01:17 PM
It is expected that people will claim that his career was a paean to nobility but I think the guy was a sore loser and nasty sonuvabitch.
His presser after losing to Duke or what he did to that Uthoff kid is all one needs to know about the character of one Bo Ryan.
Adios Mother F#cker. College basketball is a better place without your toxic personality.
Keefe bringin' the heat! Couldn't agree more
UW became a much bigger rivalry during the Bo years.
When I attended (McGuire) I thought ND Digger Phelps was our arch rival (not sure ND agreed-lol). Depaul with Ray Myers considered Marquette their rival(not sure we agreed-lol).
Bo's success elevated the program and the rivalry.
I am curious. I never really tried to understand Bo's "system" that he mentored throughout the state for decades. Is UW married to keeping the "Bo" system? Do they slip back to pre Bo mediocrity? Does the era end with him? Does UW keep recruiting its "system" style kids? If not....How will they change, and how might this affect our recruiting profile/competitiveness?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 02:11:17 PM
I wasn't saying it was a great school. I was saying that they don't make the same types of admissions exceptions for athletes like they used to.
They definitely still make exceptions for students they just don't make as many exceptions. John Clay is a perfect example of exceptions being granted and I know that as a stone cold lock.
Quote from: keefe on December 16, 2015, 02:01:17 PM
It is expected that people will claim that his career was a paean to nobility but I think the guy was a sore loser and nasty sonuvabitch.
His presser after losing to Duke or what he did to that Uthoff kid is all one needs to know about the character of one Bo Ryan.
Adios Mother F#cker. College basketball is a better place without your toxic personality.
I couldn't have said it better myself. This is it. Exactly.
Quote from: jsglow on December 16, 2015, 06:59:04 AM
While certainly Bo's objective, I don't think Barry is in a corner at all. He'll do a comprehensive search.
I don't think Barry plans to lose this measuring contest. My bet is Barry triples his efforts to find someone besides Gard.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 09:21:09 AM
How the donors react is going to be interesting. Bo did a great job cultivating a cadre of boosters to the basketball program. Do those boosters have a loyalty to Bo's guy?
Funny, one of those boosters was just telling my daughter (now at UW--sigh) in October "not to worry--Bo will be around for a few more years."
Why have academic requirements when you don't bother graduating players anyway?
Quote from: PTM on December 16, 2015, 03:21:43 PM
Why have academic requirements when you don't bother graduating players anyway?
AMEN
Congratulations are due to Bo Ryan on an illustrious career at Wisconsin, including such accomplishments as:
*** Zero National Championships despite having a bottomless well of taxpayer dollars
*** A history of NCAA Tournament success, including a 4-7 record against teams seeded 1-4.
But oh man, who could forget those legendary NCAA Tournament victories over:
9th-seeded St. John's
12th-seeded Weber State
13th-seeded Tulsa
11th-seeded Richmond
11th-seeded Northern Iowa
14th-seeded Bucknell
10th-seeded NC State
15th-seeded Texas A&M-Corpus Christi
14th-seeded Cal State Fullerton
11th-seeded Kansas State
5th-seeded Florida State (Hey! Look at that! A higher seed! It only took 8 years.)
13th-seeded Wofford
13th-seeded Belmont
5th-seeded Kansas State
13th-seeded Montana
5th-seeded Vanderbilt
15th-seeded American
7th-seeded Oregon
6th-seeded Baylor
16th-seeded Coastal Carolina
8th-seeded Oregon
A regular giant-slayer that Bo Ryan is, what with his TWO career NCAA Tournament victories over higher-seeded opponents. You can count them on two hands if you love playing with fireworks.
*** Being such a great developer of talent that he had a whole FOUR players drafted by NBA teams in 14+ seasons. Way to go, Bo!
Quote from: houwarrior on December 16, 2015, 02:28:12 PM
I am curious. I never really tried to understand Bo's "system" that he mentored throughout the state for decades. Is UW married to keeping the "Bo" system? Do they slip back to pre Bo mediocrity? Does the era end with him? Does UW keep recruiting its "system" style kids? If not....How will they change, and how might this affect our recruiting profile/competitiveness?
While I respect the coaching ability that squeezed as much as Bo did out of the players he recruited, I think that business model is really hard to follow and get consistent good results. I can't see the difference makers at UW trying to catch lightning in a bottle again when all they do is rave about how "unique" Bo is (even though his real success came with actual NBA talent), but let's hope they do.
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on December 16, 2015, 03:30:16 PM
Congratulations are due to Bo Ryan on an illustrious career at Wisconsin, including such accomplishments as:
*** Zero National Championships despite having a bottomless well of taxpayer dollars
UW Athletics does not have a "bottomless well of taxpayer dollars."
I have heard the rumors from credible sources...if true...I trust they will come out in the media in time as there are some fairly serious offshoot events tied to some bad decisions...just don't want to jump on gossip as I remember that feeling a few years ago with Buzz and trying not to judge until the rumors were replaced by credible allegations (i.e. the Chicago Tribune story)....hopefully the truth comes out...in the meantime, let the man run away in peace. (but if the rumors are true...it is complicated and ugly and I can totally see why Bo would leave right now to spare the program from embarrassment and scandal on top of the retirement/unretirement power play). That being said...the dude could coach.
So, I chose to celebrate the taming of the grinch by rewatching his last loss...last Saturday in Madison to our beloved Warriors. He did not look his obnoxious grinch self on the sideline so something was possibly weighty on his mind. But, beyond that....my God...Henry, Luke and Cheatham were studs! And DWill, JJJ and Sandy all had way higher positives than not in the game....and I love our last meeting with him at the Kohl Hole is a W. Wojo had a brilliant game plan and in the face of adversity after blowing a big lead...we nailed those rodents (and frankly, after rewatching it...it could have been so much worse for UW...although both Happ and Showalter were really impressive). Bo took UW to the top....probably destined to fall back...but MU looks without question on the rise! I raise my glass to UW for they last few years but i can not wait to drink in all the success that I feel is on our way.
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 06:34:23 PM
I have heard the rumors from credible sources...if true...I trust they will come out in the media in time as there are some fairly serious offshoot events tied to some bad decisions...just don't want to jump on gossip as I remember that feeling a few years ago with Buzz and trying not to judge until the rumors were replaced by credible allegations (i.e. the Chicago Tribune story)....hopefully the truth comes out...in the meantime, let the man run away in peace. (but if the rumors are true...it is complicated and ugly and I can totally see why Bo would leave right now to spare the program from embarrassment and scandal on top of the retirement/unretirement power play). That being said...the dude could coach.
So, I chose to celebrate the taming of the grinch by rewatching his last loss...last Saturday in Madison to our beloved Warriors. He did not look his obnoxious grinch self on the sideline so something was possibly weighty on his mind. But, beyond that....my God...Henry, Luke and Cheatham were studs! And DWill, JJJ and Sandy all had way higher positives than not in the game....and I love our last meeting with him at the Kohl Hole is a W. Wojo had a brilliant game plan and in the face of adversity after blowing a big lead...we nailed those rodents (and frankly, after rewatching it...it could have been so much worse for UW...although both Happ and Showalter were really impressive). Bo took UW to the top....probably destined to fall back...but MU looks without question on the rise! I raise my glass to UW for they last few years but i can not wait to drink in all the success that I feel is on our way.
Come on everyone, out with it
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 06:34:23 PM
I have heard the rumors from credible sources...if true...I trust they will come out in the media in time as there are some fairly serious offshoot events tied to some bad decisions...just don't want to jump on gossip as I remember that feeling a few years ago with Buzz and trying not to judge until the rumors were replaced by credible allegations (i.e. the Chicago Tribune story)....hopefully the truth comes out...in the meantime, let the man run away in peace. (but if the rumors are true...it is complicated and ugly and I can totally see why Bo would leave right now to spare the program from embarrassment and scandal on top of the retirement/unretirement power play). That being said...the dude could coach.
So, I chose to celebrate the taming of the grinch by rewatching his last loss...last Saturday in Madison to our beloved Warriors. He did not look his obnoxious grinch self on the sideline so something was possibly weighty on his mind. But, beyond that....my God...Henry, Luke and Cheatham were studs! And DWill, JJJ and Sandy all had way higher positives than not in the game....and I love our last meeting with him at the Kohl Hole is a W. Wojo had a brilliant game plan and in the face of adversity after blowing a big lead...we nailed those rodents (and frankly, after rewatching it...it could have been so much worse for UW...although both Happ and Showalter were really impressive). Bo took UW to the top....probably destined to fall back...but MU looks without question on the rise! I raise my glass to UW for they last few years but i can not wait to drink in all the success that I feel is on our way.
That's a 500 word humble brag amounting to "i know more than you do". No offense but if you meant the last 250 words you would've 'swallowed' the first 250.
Quote from: Goose on December 16, 2015, 04:39:53 AM
There may be more to this story than what currently meets the eye. I heard a rumor about this late last week and not willing to share it, but if true, makes this a very interesting story.
if it's potentially about some alleged shenanigans re: fidelity, i know a guy connected to wisco sports-hints-i didn't press any further so....
Quote from: naginiF on December 16, 2015, 06:55:00 PM
That's a 500 word humble brag amounting to "i know more than you do". No offense but if you meant the last 250 words you would've 'swallowed' the first 250.
So, this is not the Associated Press and I'm not saying this is the truth...but...the rumor is in this neighborhood:
1. Bo had inappropriate relationship with a younger woman
2. Younger woman had some loose associations with very sketchy characters
3. Very sketchy characters made Bo and his family's life hell (which is sad)
4. Things got potentially escalated in the last week
5. One of said sketchy characters was murdered in Madison last Friday night/Saturday morning.
6. Nothing incriminating at all toward Bo but bad decisions led to peripheral attachment to an ugly situation which would bring embarrassment, shame and distraction to the University and program.
7. On top of an already odd and tense situation...well...you can see the timing issue.
There, I said (or wrote) it. BTW, the person who told me this has the absolute utmost respect and like for Bo and considers him a man with integrity and ethics who potentially made some bad decisions.
Just saying what everyone is alluding to....not saying it is true...the internet may be a wonderful tool of hyping speculation, rumor and gossip...but, his timing on all this is odd to say the least....if he was doing this to secure the long term prospects for Gard...could not have been more poorly orchestrated. Let's see if more comes out....if not...I'm guilty of fueling horrible character assassination through speculation...but, eff it...it is a message board and it is not like I have to protect my self or my "sources."
Again...did not mean to sound like a pseudo-insider....now I sound like a wild rumor monger....I am neither....or both...but happy where our program is heading.
More scotch anyone?
So you are saying the Grinch was putting it to Cindy Lou Who?
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Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on December 16, 2015, 03:30:16 PM
Congratulations are due to Bo Ryan on an illustrious career at Wisconsin, including such accomplishments as:
*** Zero National Championships despite having a bottomless well of taxpayer dollars
*** A history of NCAA Tournament success, including a 4-7 record against teams seeded 1-4.
Can you put together TC, Buzz or even Als record against top 4 seeds? That's not a horrible record considering 2 of those losses were in the final last year.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 16, 2015, 07:25:56 PM
So you are saying the Grinch was putting it to Cindy Lou Who?
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Oh my...
nm
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
Sorry...that really was not my intent...truly...while watching the rewind of the game I also had a few drinks which maybe skews my language...
I was being WAY too antagonistic --- long couple o weeks of the naginiF household being sick.
Fantastic response! Pretty much summarizes everything i've read today except I don't believe that the Olive Garden breadstick theory is 100% true.
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
So, this is not the Associated Press and I'm not saying this is the truth...but...the rumor is in this neighborhood:
1. Bo had inappropriate relationship with a younger woman
2. Younger woman had some loose associations with very sketchy characters
3. Very sketchy characters made Bo and his family's life hell (which is sad)
4. Things got potentially escalated in the last week
5. One of said sketchy characters was murdered in Madison last Friday night/Saturday morning.
6. Nothing incriminating at all toward Bo but bad decisions led to peripheral attachment to an ugly situation which would bring embarrassment, shame and distraction to the University and program.
7. On top of an already odd and tense situation...well...you can see the timing issue.
There, I said (or wrote) it. BTW, the person who told me this has the absolute utmost respect and like for Bo and considers him a man with integrity and ethics who potentially made some bad decisions.
Just saying what everyone is alluding to....not saying it is true...the internet may be a wonderful tool of hyping speculation, rumor and gossip...but, his timing on all this is odd to say the least....if he was doing this to secure the long term prospects for Gard...could not have been more poorly orchestrated. Let's see if more comes out....if not...I'm guilty of fueling horrible character assassination through speculation...but, eff it...it is a message board and it is not like I have to protect my self or my "sources."
Again...did not mean to sound like a pseudo-insider....now I sound like a wild rumor monger....I am neither....or both...but happy where our program is heading.
More scotch anyone?
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Quote from: naginiF on December 16, 2015, 08:10:39 PM
I was being WAY too antagonistic --- long couple o weeks of the naginiF household being sick.
Fantastic response! Pretty much summarizes everything i've read today except I don't believe that the Olive Garden breadstick theory is 100% true.
All good my friend....I reread my post and I did sound like that and I did not mean to...I take feedback well....and learn from it :) Also changed my response a bit to just stop sounding douchey and get to the point...again...may or may not be true but lots of smoke....and, I agree...The Olive Garden Breadstick has to be rumor...has to be...
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 16, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
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This is a great gif!! Gave me a good laugh as it was exactly my reaction.
Heard a similar story from someone "involved" in Madison.
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
So, this is not the Associated Press and I'm not saying this is the truth...but...the rumor is in this neighborhood:
1. Bo had inappropriate relationship with a younger woman
2. Younger woman had some loose associations with very sketchy characters
3. Very sketchy characters made Bo and his family's life hell (which is sad)
4. Things got potentially escalated in the last week
5. One of said sketchy characters was murdered in Madison last Friday night/Saturday morning.
6. Nothing incriminating at all toward Bo but bad decisions led to peripheral attachment to an ugly situation which would bring embarrassment, shame and distraction to the University and program.
7. On top of an already odd and tense situation...well...you can see the timing issue.
There, I said (or wrote) it. BTW, the person who told me this has the absolute utmost respect and like for Bo and considers him a man with integrity and ethics who potentially made some bad decisions.
Just saying what everyone is alluding to....not saying it is true...the internet may be a wonderful tool of hyping speculation, rumor and gossip...but, his timing on all this is odd to say the least....if he was doing this to secure the long term prospects for Gard...could not have been more poorly orchestrated. Let's see if more comes out....if not...I'm guilty of fueling horrible character assassination through speculation...but, eff it...it is a message board and it is not like I have to protect my self or my "sources."
Again...did not mean to sound like a pseudo-insider....now I sound like a wild rumor monger....I am neither....or both...but happy where our program is heading.
More scotch anyone?
And here I thought it was just that the people in Madison finally got sick of Bo not graduating his players :) I thought that was embarrassing enough.
Seriously, there have been a lot of hints something was going on over the last few weeks. I'm glad someone finally spilled the rumor beans in enough detail to get it out in the open in full.
Olive Garden? What? Breadsticks? Now we have a new rumor to fuel the fire.
I heard it was Famous Daves and a corn muffin.
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
So, this is not the Associated Press and I'm not saying this is the truth...but...the rumor is in this neighborhood:
1. Bo had inappropriate relationship with a younger woman
2. Younger woman had some loose associations with very sketchy characters
3. Very sketchy characters made Bo and his family's life hell (which is sad)
4. Things got potentially escalated in the last week
5. One of said sketchy characters was murdered in Madison last Friday night/Saturday morning.
6. Nothing incriminating at all toward Bo but bad decisions led to peripheral attachment to an ugly situation which would bring embarrassment, shame and distraction to the University and program.
7. On top of an already odd and tense situation...well...you can see the timing issue.
I like playing detective: http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Madison-Police-investigate-death-on-East-side-361663111.html
I did the same thing.
It's easy to find when Madison has had only 5 murders this year.
There might be a chance that his teams played more conservative on the court than he did off the court.
New meaning for the swing offense? 8-)
jsglow
Very well done.
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 16, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
I like playing detective: http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Madison-Police-investigate-death-on-East-side-361663111.html
Dots do tend to connect eventually....
Actually a potentially very sad ending to a remarkable career. If story is true, I feel badly for all parties involved. Hate UW and everyone in the program but hope he can leave town in peace.
Quote from: jsglow on December 16, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
New meaning for the swing offense? 8-)
Have we been mispronouncing the schwing offense all these years?
With news like this, its gonna be very difficult for MU to keep up its reputation as the squirmy program in the state.
We've enjoyed picking on our neighbors to the west but it's certainly true that Bo was a fantastic coach, ran an outstanding program, and has remained committed to the state throughout his career. I really do hope that he gets to enjoy his retirement with his family and friends.
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on December 16, 2015, 11:05:02 PM
With news like this, its gonna be very difficult for MU to keep up its reputation as the squirmy program in the state.
BTW - and i'm sure this is obvious - #'s 2-6 on the list are the internet feeding on itself and let's see if the conspiracy theory can grow to an obscene point.
Quote from: jsglow on December 17, 2015, 06:43:07 AM
We've enjoyed picking on our neighbors to the west but it's certainly true that Bo was a fantastic coach, ran an outstanding program, and has remained committed to the state throughout his career. I really do hope that he gets to enjoy his retirement with his family and friends.
I hope he does also, but only if he deserves to enjoy his retirement. If he did something wrong he should get what he deserves and not walk away because he is Bo Ryan.
Hopefully Bo didn't pull a Pitino and was able to spend more than 3 seconds in da lane, ai na?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 17, 2015, 07:35:56 AM
Hopefully Bo didn't pull a Pitino and was able to spend more than 3 seconds in da lane, ai na?
Hell, at his age I would be impressed if he could actually make it work, unless he has grampas little helper.
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
So, this is not the Associated Press and I'm not saying this is the truth...but...the rumor is in this neighborhood:
1. Bo had inappropriate relationship with a younger woman
2. Younger woman had some loose associations with very sketchy characters
3. Very sketchy characters made Bo and his family's life hell (which is sad)
4. Things got potentially escalated in the last week
5. One of said sketchy characters was murdered in Madison last Friday night/Saturday morning.
6. Nothing incriminating at all toward Bo but bad decisions led to peripheral attachment to an ugly situation which would bring embarrassment, shame and distraction to the University and program.
7. On top of an already odd and tense situation...well...you can see the timing issue.
There, I said (or wrote) it. BTW, the person who told me this has the absolute utmost respect and like for Bo and considers him a man with integrity and ethics who potentially made some bad decisions.
Just saying what everyone is alluding to....not saying it is true...the internet may be a wonderful tool of hyping speculation, rumor and gossip...but, his timing on all this is odd to say the least....if he was doing this to secure the long term prospects for Gard...could not have been more poorly orchestrated. Let's see if more comes out....if not...I'm guilty of fueling horrible character assassination through speculation...but, eff it...it is a message board and it is not like I have to protect my self or my "sources."
Again...did not mean to sound like a pseudo-insider....now I sound like a wild rumor monger....I am neither....or both...but happy where our program is heading.
More scotch anyone?
Better than I imagined! Much appreciated!
Quote from: jsglow on December 17, 2015, 06:43:07 AM
We've enjoyed picking on our neighbors to the west but it's certainly true that Bo was a fantastic coach, ran an outstanding program, and has remained committed to the state throughout his career. I really do hope that he gets to enjoy his retirement with his family and friends.
Eff that, the guy's ego was & is ridiculously out of control. The deification of Bo has always sickened me, and it annoyed me even more when MU fans feed into it.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 16, 2015, 05:14:26 PM
UW Athletics does not have a "bottomless well of taxpayer dollars."
Bo Ryan is (was) the highest-paid public employee in the State of Wisconsin. There's certainly plenty of resources available.
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Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 16, 2015, 07:35:04 PM
Can you put together TC, Buzz or even Als record against top 4 seeds? That's not a horrible record considering 2 of those losses were in the final last year.
Crean went 2-2 vs. Top 4 seeds at Marquette (Beat Pittsburgh & Kentucky, Lost to Kansas, Stanford). He's since gone 0-2 vs. Top 4 seeds at Indiana (Lost to Kentucky and Syracuse).
Buzz went 2-3 (Beat Syracuse and Miami, lost to Missouri, North Carolina, and Syracuse)
Al doesn't have a record against Top 4 seeds because the NCAA Tournament did not begin seeding as we know it until 1979.
My point is that Ryan's "record of NCAA success" largely rests on beating up on teams no one would consider contenders. Hell, Buzz Williams won more games against higher-seeded teams (3) than Bo Ryan did (2). Ryan should be commended for getting Bucky to the tournament consistently, but his record once they got there is mixed at best.
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on December 17, 2015, 08:00:40 AM
Bo Ryan is (was) the highest-paid public employee in the State of Wisconsin. There's certainly plenty of resources available.
Wojo is the highest-paid employee of Marquette. Is Marquette a "bottomless well of dollars"?
Bo's not as big a fan of the traditional as we thought?
Quote from: murobrob on December 16, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
So, this is not the Associated Press and I'm not saying this is the truth...but...the rumor is in this neighborhood:
1. Bo had inappropriate relationship with a younger woman
2. Younger woman had some loose associations with very sketchy characters
3. Very sketchy characters made Bo and his family's life hell (which is sad)
4. Things got potentially escalated in the last week
5. One of said sketchy characters was murdered in Madison last Friday night/Saturday morning.
6. Nothing incriminating at all toward Bo but bad decisions led to peripheral attachment to an ugly situation which would bring embarrassment, shame and distraction to the University and program.
7. On top of an already odd and tense situation...well...you can see the timing issue.
There, I said (or wrote) it. BTW, the person who told me this has the absolute utmost respect and like for Bo and considers him a man with integrity and ethics who potentially made some bad decisions.
Just saying what everyone is alluding to....not saying it is true...the internet may be a wonderful tool of hyping speculation, rumor and gossip...but, his timing on all this is odd to say the least....if he was doing this to secure the long term prospects for Gard...could not have been more poorly orchestrated. Let's see if more comes out....if not...I'm guilty of fueling horrible character assassination through speculation...but, eff it...it is a message board and it is not like I have to protect my self or my "sources."
Again...did not mean to sound like a pseudo-insider....now I sound like a wild rumor monger....I am neither....or both...but happy where our program is heading.
More scotch anyone?
I feel a little dirtier having read that ... but I did enjoy it.
Nicely done. A pleasant contrast to those claiming to have insider knowledge of this or that but refusing to divulge any of it.
Now ... time for a shower!
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on December 17, 2015, 08:00:40 AM
Bo Ryan is (was) the highest-paid public employee in the State of Wisconsin. There's certainly plenty of resources available.
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Being a highly paid state employee has nothing to do with tax dollars.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/writers/pat_schneider/athletics-says-it-contributes-more-than-m-a-year-to/article_d053c924-a3c9-11e3-bef2-0019bb2963f4.html
Quote from: naginiF on December 17, 2015, 07:24:25 AM
BTW - and i'm sure this is obvious - #'s 2-6 on the list are the internet feeding on itself and let's see if the conspiracy theory can grow to an obscene point.
This. There have been rumors around Madison for a long time... ever since Bret B was cruising State St for coeds, people have been saying more and more things about Bo. So whether there's any truth to that or not, it isn't exactly breaking news.
Of course, the staleness of rumors is not going to stop some "enterprising" people from trying to cash in, i.e. if #3 is true, then it's likely that #1 & #2 didn't lead to #3... #1 and #2 were the result of #3.
What probably happened is someone was trying to extort money from Bo, and whoever was working that #3, somebody worked up a #5 on them (or someone they knew). If you want crazy rumors, start with those two, forget about #1,2,4,6 & 7 and work from there... in other words, these are Bo Ryan rumors we're talking about; don't half-ass it, go all in, and leave the fluff behind.
Personally, I'm really looking forward to Christmas next weekend with my extended family, if for nothing else, just to find out what's going through their heads right now.
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
Quote from: Benny B on December 17, 2015, 10:00:03 AM
This. There have been rumors around Madison for a long time... ever since Bret B was cruising State St for coeds, people have been saying more and more things about Bo. So whether there's any truth to that or not, it isn't exactly breaking news.
If there is any truth to Bo's infidelities and potential impaction on his departure......it will certainly be breaking news....at least on Scoop.
Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
Lol.
Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
Until proven otherwise, I assume this true and accurate story is being covered up by the Madison media and it will remain so if not told by brave seekers of the truth through other venues.
Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
Helen Lovejoy, everybody!
Quote from: PTM on December 17, 2015, 10:54:48 AM
Helen Lovejoy, everybody!
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Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
What the hell's the point of Scoop if not "ugly rumor mongering?"
Read the contract you signed for your Scoop service. The Ugly Rumor Mongering Clause is in the fine print.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 17, 2015, 07:35:56 AM
Hopefully Bo didn't pull a Pitino and was able to spend more than 3 seconds in da lane, ai na?
Well, regardless of loiter time it just goes to show there's no such thing as a free piece of tail. A man pays for it in one way or another.
So, Bo was getting a lube job at the Autozone?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 17, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
So, Bo was getting a lube job at the Autozone?
I see what you did there. This thread is somewhat disconcerting but Mike Heller was on 920 yesterday telling everyone that Wes Matthews didn't have the grades to get into UW. This is in a long line of throwing teenagers under the bus for their "poor" grades (Vander, Diamond Stone, Craig Evans) by the media in Madison.
Quote from: MUDPT on December 17, 2015, 11:35:14 AM
I see what you did there. This thread is somewhat disconcerting but Mike Heller was on 920 yesterday telling everyone that Wes Matthews didn't have the grades to get into UW. This is in a long line of throwing teenagers under the bus for their "poor" grades (Vander, Diamond Stone, Craig Evans) by the media in Madison.
WTF? It came down to Wisconsin or Marquette for Wes. And he didn't have the grades? Puh-leeze.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 17, 2015, 11:36:09 AM
WTF? It came down to Wisconsin or Marquette for Wes. And he didn't have the grades? Puh-leeze.
Yeah. Wes was/is a really bright guy. Academics were never in play with him.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 17, 2015, 11:36:09 AM
WTF? It came down to Wisconsin or Marquette for Wes. And he didn't have the grades? Puh-leeze.
And this is one of the reasons Wes doesn't have the warm fuzzies for his hometown.
Bo Ryan has yet to deny allegations that he has murdered 5 people in Madison this year, with his most recent victim having been shot to death in an Autozone parking lot.
I know....it is hard to believe he could pull that off....but he did!
Quote from: MUDPT on December 17, 2015, 11:35:14 AM
I see what you did there. This thread is somewhat disconcerting but Mike Heller was on 920 yesterday telling everyone that Wes Matthews didn't have the grades to get into UW. This is in a long line of throwing teenagers under the bus for their "poor" grades (Vander, Diamond Stone, Craig Evans) by the media in Madison.
Forget what talking Badger head was on the radio with Downtown Ollie Burrows here in Central Wisconsin to discuss Bo Ryan yesterday.... They got into the poor recent recruiting, especially following the final four. Dude said Henry never wanted to go to MU and always wanted to go to Wisconsin ("heck, his Dad had a terrible experience at MU but loved Wisconsin") but Bo wouldn't play the must give Wally a scholarship game. Parents made the decision that both should go to MU for the double scholarships. No mention Henry could have gone to Kentucky or MSU, and only was interested in MU when Wojo got involved.
Then went on to say Diamond Stone couldn't get into Madison plus his Dad got a job with UnderArmor, tough to compete with that.
Quote from: DiehardMU on December 17, 2015, 12:17:07 PM
Forget what talking Badger head was on the radio with Downtown Ollie Burrows here in Central Wisconsin to discuss Bo Ryan yesterday.... They got into the poor recent recruiting, especially following the final four. Dude said Henry never wanted to go to MU and always wanted to go to Wisconsin ("heck, his Dad had a terrible experience at MU but loved Wisconsin") but Bo wouldn't play the must give Wally a scholarship game. Parents made the decision that both should go to MU for the double scholarships. No mention Henry could have gone to Kentucky or MSU, and only was interested in MU when Wojo got involved.
Then went on to say Diamond Stone couldn't get into Madison plus his Dad got a job with UnderArmor, tough to compete with that.
Whatever makes them feel better about themselves. There's a reason that they have zero commits right now besides, what, one 2017 verbal? lol
Quote from: DiehardMU on December 17, 2015, 12:17:07 PM
Forget what talking Badger head was on the radio with Downtown Ollie Burrows here in Central Wisconsin to discuss Bo Ryan yesterday.... They got into the poor recent recruiting, especially following the final four. Dude said Henry never wanted to go to MU and always wanted to go to Wisconsin ("heck, his Dad had a terrible experience at MU but loved Wisconsin") but Bo wouldn't play the must give Wally a scholarship game. Parents made the decision that both should go to MU for the double scholarships. No mention Henry could have gone to Kentucky or MSU, and only was interested in MU when Wojo got involved.
Then went on to say Diamond Stone couldn't get into Madison plus his Dad got a job with UnderArmor, tough to compete with that.
Was the "dude" a random caller or a paid radio professional?
Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
Hiroshima!
Quote from: MUDPT on December 17, 2015, 11:35:14 AM
I see what you did there. This thread is somewhat disconcerting but Mike Heller was on 920 yesterday telling everyone that Wes Matthews didn't have the grades to get into UW. This is in a long line of throwing teenagers under the bus for their "poor" grades (Vander, Diamond Stone, Craig Evans) by the media in Madison.
Heller is a tool. He insinuated a while back that there was dirty business going on at MU because no one of Henry's caliber would seriously consider a mid major that plays in the has been Big East. Those guys defend UW with all of their might and take shots whenever they can.
Heard two people in our office yesterday--on separate occasions- mention that Gard will have a hard time recruiting with the self imposed higher academic standards that UW has implemented. If they didn't have such standards they would have landed Diamond. Couldn't believe it. But, when people like Heller continue to spew this BS and it sticks.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on December 17, 2015, 11:37:51 AM
Yeah. Wes was/is a really bright guy. Academics were never in play with him.
It don't matter now, do it? How many zeros are in 70 million, hey?
Bo was a very successful coach, went to the NCAA tournament often and the finals last year; though he did not coach the kind of hoops we all like, he still beat MU enough to earn some genuine respect from us.
Let's be gracious, we are certainly on the upswing after a tough year of transition. We also have that NCAA Championship banner hanging in our place. I really think it more likely a second banner comes our way before one hangs at Kohl.
Bo's decision to leave now--after the MU defeat--will always punctuate his overall, great record. We can always remind our "friends" in Madison of this whenever the time is more appropriate, not now.
Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
i'm telling...speakin of swimmers.... :D
I hadn't read this thread until just now, when I happened to skim the last page and notice there must be something worth reading....I tend to not really give a crap about UWM except for the one day a year we play them, but wow ohhhhh wow.....
If true, that is crazy. Carl Hiaasen would be even be proud.
Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
You forgot to use teal
So Bo took her to Olive Garden and offered her the "All-you-can-eat" breadstick?
Quote from: swimmer on December 17, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Ummm, are there any mods around here? This thread needs to be blown up. If something scandalous is behind Bo's sudden retirement, I'm sure it will come to light through the proper avenues in due time. No need for the ugly rumor mongering.
Are you having an affair with Bo Ryan?
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 17, 2015, 12:20:36 PM
Was the "dude" a random caller or a paid radio professional?
Guest on the show... sure acted like he thought he was a pro but not sure if he was a journalist, blogger, or what.
Quote from: DoggyDaddy on December 17, 2015, 12:44:21 PM
Bo was a very successful coach, went to the NCAA tournament often and the finals last year; though he did not coach the kind of hoops we all like, he still beat MU enough to earn some genuine respect from us.
Let's be gracious, we are certainly on the upswing after a tough year of transition. We also have that NCAA Championship banner hanging in our place. I really think it more likely a second banner comes our way before one hangs at Kohl.
Bo's decision to leave now--after the MU defeat--will always punctuate his overall, great record. We can always remind our "friends" in Madison of this whenever the time is more appropriate, not now.
Wisconsin also has one basketball national championship.
Quote from: breadtree on December 17, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
Wisconsin also has one basketball national championship.
Wait! Can we press pause while I make popcorn for this?
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on December 17, 2015, 02:52:43 PM
So Bo took her to Olive Garden and offered her the "All-you-can-eat" breadstick?
More like mozzarella stick.
Quote from: naginiF on December 17, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
Wait! Can we press pause while I make popcorn for this?
Here's a hint - it was first year the the FCC licensed broadcast TV. Sadly, the first broadcasts happened on July 1, ~3 months after the tilt.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/meet-wisconsin-s-only-national-championship-basketball-team-172338104.html
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 16, 2015, 10:35:17 PM
Have we been mispronouncing the schwing offense all these years?
No, "Swing" is pretty accurate.
Quote from: NickelDimer on December 17, 2015, 08:08:43 AM
Bo's not as big a fan of the traditional as we thought?
No, she's traditional.
Well, untraditional in the marriage contract and untraditional in the chest region.
But Traditional in a Chicos kinda way.
Pics of this babe, hey?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
Here's a hint - it was first year the the FCC licensed broadcast TV. Sadly, the first broadcasts happened on July 1, ~3 months after the tilt.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/meet-wisconsin-s-only-national-championship-basketball-team-172338104.html
More sadly, more time has now passed since our championship (38 years) than between Wisconsin's and ours (36 years).
Here's hoping Wojo ends our streak and that Greg Gard forces UW into a UCLA-like situation: one good season to win the job, followed by six years of mediocracy.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
Here's a hint - it was first year the the FCC licensed broadcast TV. Sadly, the first broadcasts happened on July 1, ~3 months after the tilt.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/meet-wisconsin-s-only-national-championship-basketball-team-172338104.html
Also an era where only 8 teams were invited. The best teams went to a different tournament. You had to win 3 games to be national champion.
The irony
http://buckyville.yuku.com/topic/83453/Bo-retiring?page=21#.VnQfEhUrIdU
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 17, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
Here's a hint - it was first year the the FCC licensed broadcast TV. Sadly, the first broadcasts happened on July 1, ~3 months after the tilt.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/meet-wisconsin-s-only-national-championship-basketball-team-172338104.html
A quote:
"their record stood at 5-3 after losing their Big Ten opener — a 44-27 road loss to Minnesota
that saw Wisconsin held to zero field goals in the second half."
So Bo brought success to Wisconsin basketball by returning to the offensive pace of their national championship team.
Quote from: breadtree on December 17, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
Wisconsin also has one basketball national championship.
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZiYaEICAAqk
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2015, 08:58:27 AM
The irony
http://buckyville.yuku.com/topic/83453/Bo-retiring?page=21#.VnQfEhUrIdU
Haha this is outstanding.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
Haha this is outstanding.
I really enjoyed the guy calling it "MUPoop"
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
Haha this is outstanding.
"What a bunch of fucking clueless dicks."
We may be clueless dicks, but we were clueless dicks celebrating a win at the Kohl Center on Saturday.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 18, 2015, 10:44:52 AM
"What a bunch of unnatural carnal knowledgeing clueless dicks."
We may be clueless dicks, but we were clueless dicks celebrating a win at the Kohl Center on Saturday.
Winner!
My favorite poster over there is Eric the Red. He is treated like royalty and pretends that he's some sort of high level insider with all this great knowledge, when all he does is make vague statements that have absolutely no meaning and everyone over there drools over them. "That's simply not true." Asked to go into details, he just repeats the statement. Anybody that actually has the kind of inside information that he pretends to have on UW athletics does not openly post on public forums as often as he does. See BigDaddy. Comes around maybe once a month in season to share what is appropriate for fans to know and then disappears.
Erica, please make an account and shoot me a PM with your email. I'll forward you the bill for my season tickets kid!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2015, 08:58:27 AM
The irony
http://buckyville.yuku.com/topic/83453/Bo-retiring?page=21#.VnQfEhUrIdU
The most creative insult they can come up with is "classless dickheads?" Quality Wisconsin education at work....sorry quality UW Superior education right there
It seems like some if their supposed insiders are confirming that something is up. No details but doesn't sound good
One thing I have learned over the past 20 or so years. NEVER be surprised when someone you think has a nice and decent public persona, is caught with his/her pants down. NEVER.
As for the UWM fans. The funniest thing is them blaming academic standards for the sports teams. They then link to the normal student population entry standard. Like they actually believe the athletes have the same entry standard. And they go with this as gospel. Then there are of course sites with actual data that show UW is no better than anybody else, in fact sometimes worse.
I have yet to see where there is an actual documented standard for what UWM has for athletes to get into their school. And that is likely because its a sliding scale based on the person involved. Its sooo funny to watch UWM recruit hard after a kid(Stone), then when he says no to them. It was obviously because of his grades. What? You werent aware of his grades before he turned you down? ?-(
They do confirm the rumor of Bo murdering the guy at Autozone is false. I'm glad they helped clarify that one.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 10:59:14 AM
Winner!
My favorite poster over there is EricTheReed. He is treated like royalty and pretends that he's some sort of high level insider with all this great knowledge, when all he does is make vague statements that have absolutely no meaning and everyone over there drools over them. "That's simply not true." Asked to go into details, he just repeats the statement. Anybody that actually has the kind of inside information that he pretends to have on UW athletics does not openly post on public forums as often as he does. See BigDaddy. Comes around maybe once a month in season to share what is appropriate for fans to know and then disappears.
Eric, please make an account and shoot me a PM with your email. I'll forward you the bill for my season tickets kid!
If you look up "Poster with an Agenda" in the dictionary. Red is there.
Poster GratefulRed is using a picture of bread sticks as his avatar pic. Must be confirmation.
What I've never understood is hate reading other teams' boards. It makes no sense for Badger fans to read ours and then go: "rabble rabble rabble." It makes no sense for us to do the same. I guess I just don't have the internet troll gene.
Quote from: jficke13 on December 18, 2015, 11:44:18 AM
What I've never understood is hate reading other teams' boards. It makes no sense for Badger fans to read ours and then go: "rabble rabble rabble." It makes no sense for us to do the same. I guess I just don't have the internet troll gene.
Reading the West Virginia board after Buzz danced on their logo was one of the most enjoyable experiences I have ever had involving the internet.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 18, 2015, 11:54:57 AM
Reading the West Virginia board after Buzz danced on their logo was one of the most enjoyable experiences I have ever had involving the internet.
Wait.. West Virginia fans have command of the written word?
Quote from: jficke13 on December 18, 2015, 12:04:03 PM
Wait.. West Virginia fans have command of the written word?
Well, there were a lot of pictures...
Quote from: jficke13 on December 18, 2015, 12:04:03 PM
Wait.. West Virginia fans have command of the written word?
It was all emojis.
Quote from: jficke13 on December 18, 2015, 12:04:03 PM
Wait.. West Virginia fans have command of the written word?
Most of them have access to "speech to text" applications. It's part of a federal program.
Quote from: jficke13 on December 18, 2015, 11:44:18 AM
What I've never understood is hate reading other teams' boards. It makes no sense for Badger fans to read ours and then go: "rabble rabble rabble." It makes no sense for us to do the same. I guess I just don't have the internet troll gene.
yeah really-i just let someone else look over the fence and report back to command control central here with the goods ;D
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/12/thank-you-bo-a-message-from-frank-kaminsky/
Haha! Eugene did something incredible! Somehow he was the first one to find this article and comment on it, with the clear intention of riling up the UW faithful...and he couldn't have possibly had any more success than he did. Amazing. Frank's thank you article to Bo and the first comment that remains at the top and is seen by everyone who reads it rips Bo. What a fucking clueless dick. Outstanding.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2015, 08:58:27 AM
The irony
http://buckyville.yuku.com/topic/83453/Bo-retiring?page=21#.VnQfEhUrIdU
Those posts made my day...keep 'em coming Bucky!
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/12/thank-you-bo-a-message-from-frank-kaminsky/
Haha! Eugene did something incredible! Somehow he was the first one to find this article and comment on it, with the clear intention of riling up the UW faithful...and he couldn't have possibly had any more success than he did. Amazing. Frank's thank you article to Bo and the first comment that remains at the top and is seen by everyone who reads it rips Bo. What a unnatural carnal knowledgeing clueless dick. Outstanding.
Pretty hilarious. He completely kamikazed the comments section. Now its full of butt hurt people yelling at him rather than praising the article or Bo. Pretty funny.
My, they think highly of us at Buckyville. For any other denizens of Buckyville who may visit, for the record, we feel the exact same way about you. Never have we seen such a collection of mindless ^@%& tards in our lives. We feel dumber having read your in-bred, sycophantic circle-jerking. It amazes us you know which end of the keyboard to use without injuring yourselves. Merry Christmas.
That is so good. Moron. Idiot. Moron. You don't know anything. Moron. Riled up is right--awesome.
I think I like this clown, who speaks for "most serious MU fans" most...
QuoteI am not a Badger fan but I have two kids that go to UW, and another who goes to Florida State. I don't mind Badger Football but growing up my loyalties have been on the MU side of the aisle. That is probably because I am older than most of you and the Badgers basically sucked at everything but cross country and Hockey when I was a kid forming my sports allegiences. Now that I got that out of the way, I totally agree with ETR's assessment of MUscoop. Just trash and most serious MU fan's don't go near that site. With that said, many of us have heard rumours about Bo for about the last six months, that appear to check out. They do not have anything to do with a murder in Madison though.
I'm making MUPoop tshirts. PM me your size if you want one. $100 a pop.
Buckyville? More like Suckyville Ha Ha! (sorry, just trying to get us on par with their insults)
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 18, 2015, 04:20:51 PM
I'm making MUPoop tshirts. PM me your size if you want one. $100 a pop.
I'll buy one, but only if the back says:
Talking Sh!t about Marquette Basketball Since 2006
Quote from: barfolomew on December 18, 2015, 05:17:43 PM
I'll buy one, but only if the back says:
Talking Sh!t about Marquette Basketball Since 2006
*PM me for details*
With one addition
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 18, 2015, 03:43:23 PM
That is so good. Moron. Idiot. Moron. You don't know anything. Moron. Riled up is right--awesome.
The best part is he never came back to bicker and banter back and forth with them. He knew exactly what he was doing and what he wanted to accomplish, and the Badger fans did not disappoint. He got his word in first and watched the whole place explode. I really hope he's just sitting there updating the article and laughing at each new comment.
Eugene, if you're reading this, well done!
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 05:50:05 PM
The best part is he never came back to bicker and banter back and forth with them. He knew exactly what he was doing and what he wanted to accomplish, and the Badger fans did not disappoint. He got his word in first and watched the whole place explode. I really hope he's just sitting there updating the article and laughing at each new comment.
Eugene, if you're reading this, well done!
Indeed. Troll level: Hiroshima achieved.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/12/thank-you-bo-a-message-from-frank-kaminsky/
Haha! Eugene did something incredible! Somehow he was the first one to find this article and comment on it, with the clear intention of riling up the UW faithful...and he couldn't have possibly had any more success than he did. Amazing. Frank's thank you article to Bo and the first comment that remains at the top and is seen by everyone who reads it rips Bo. What a unnatural carnal knowledgeing clueless dick. Outstanding.
That is pure trolling brilliance. Love how the next 20-30 posts are ALL addressing his comment and not addressing the article at all. Trolling at its finest.
What I've learned from reading the Buckyville site:
a) I thought Scoop was crazy until I saw what crazy really looked like
b) We are WAY more polite to our mods than we should be
c) Our troll beat down game is second to none
d) Scoop is the gift that keeps on giving
e) Self-effacing humor goes a looooong way
f) I really want an MUPoop shirt
g) Kinda pissed one of their biggest tools user name starts with "Finn"
Quote from: warriorchick on December 18, 2015, 11:54:57 AM
Reading the West Virginia board after Buzz danced on their logo was one of the most enjoyable experiences I have ever had involving the internet.
Proof that you read West Virginia's board is that you think that Buzz danced on (as opposed to near) their logo.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/12/thank-you-bo-a-message-from-frank-kaminsky/
Haha! Eugene did something incredible! Somehow he was the first one to find this article and comment on it, with the clear intention of riling up the UW faithful...and he couldn't have possibly had any more success than he did. Amazing. Frank's thank you article to Bo and the first comment that remains at the top and is seen by everyone who reads it rips Bo. What a unnatural carnal knowledgeing clueless dick. Outstanding.
Excellent trolling; can't believe they all fell for it.
Quote from: barfolomew on December 18, 2015, 05:17:43 PM
I'll buy one, but only if the back says:
Talking Sh!t about Marquette Basketball Since 2006
I think the poop emoji from Apple is a must as well.
Top Google searches of 2015?
Pick the top searched incident:
Lamar Odom's overdose
Donald Trump's hair
Caitlyn Jenner's transformation
St. Bo's Autozone donkey punch
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on December 18, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
Proof that you read West Virginia's board is that you think that Buzz danced on (as opposed to near) their logo.
LOL You hear one version long enough, you start believing it.
This is getting interesting. The thread has not been deleted from the bickering board over at buckyville. And a few posters, including some with Platteville ties have clearly heard the story, probably from Bo's family members. I know nothing about the autozone stuff but the rest lines up with what I heard months ago. I heard it from a coach that is a HUGE fan of Bo and is very, very good friends with one of his children. If, as I expect, much of this is true and it led to the retirement of one of CBB's greatest coaches, it is newsworthy and should be reported.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 18, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/12/thank-you-bo-a-message-from-frank-kaminsky/
Haha! Eugene did something incredible! Somehow he was the first one to find this article and comment on it, with the clear intention of riling up the UW faithful...and he couldn't have possibly had any more success than he did. Amazing. Frank's thank you article to Bo and the first comment that remains at the top and is seen by everyone who reads it rips Bo. What a unnatural carnal knowledgeing clueless dick. Outstanding.
Beautiful!
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime-and-courts/affidavit-shooting-homicide-happened-after-argument-on-party-bus/article_19afcef4-66d4-5772-87e9-ce058b1ba6d3.html
Quote from: MUDPT on December 19, 2015, 07:32:12 AM
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime-and-courts/affidavit-shooting-homicide-happened-after-argument-on-party-bus/article_19afcef4-66d4-5772-87e9-ce058b1ba6d3.html
The MU conspiracy continues....Rickey's On State now involved. Seriously rent a bus to go to Rickey's?
12 pages in and as a summary, here are the pieces that we have so far:
*Alvarez is LIVID, may coach the team himself
*A party bus
*Olive Garden breadsticks
*A murder at Autozone
*Hookers?
*Purple monkey dishwasher
Beats me how the hell this all fits together
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 19, 2015, 07:53:55 AM
The MU conspiracy continues....Rickey's On State now involved. Seriously rent a bus to go to Rickey's?
I know, hey? We always rented one of those tricked out limos to usher us from 15th & Kilbourn to Rickey's. Your ride speaks volumes about who you are as a man.
Quote from: keefe on December 19, 2015, 11:44:27 AM
Your ride speaks volumes about who you are as a man.
Only that you are trying to compensate.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 19, 2015, 12:19:02 PM
Only that you are trying to compensate.
Naw. That's what the Rolex is for...
Quote from: warriorchick on December 19, 2015, 12:19:02 PM
Only that you are trying to compensate.
Never understood this logic. It's certainly true with some d-bags, but I like cars and I've had people make that joke. I'd drive the same cars if no one ever saw me. I just like cars. That's it.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on December 19, 2015, 01:00:27 PM
Never understood this logic. It's certainly true with some d-bags, but I like cars and I've had people make that joke. I'd drive the same cars if no one ever saw me. I just like cars. That's it.
An actual conversation with a male friend of mine who bought a brand new Camaro as soon as he got his first job out of Marquette:
Me: It's nice and all, but girls might go out with you only because they like your car.
Friend: You know what? I don't care!
I never did understand that logic, from either the guy's or the girl's perspective.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 19, 2015, 01:09:08 PM
An actual conversation with a male friend of mine who bought a brand new Camaro as soon as he got his first job out of Marquette:
Me: It's nice and all, but girls might go out with you only because they like your car.
Friend: You know what? I don't care!
I never did understand that logic, from either the guy's or the girl's perspective.
Depends what the guy wanted at that time...or the girl. If he's just looking to hook up and the car does the trick, well I guess that's why he doesn't care.
Just my guess.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2015, 01:11:53 PM
Depends what the guy wanted at that time...or the girl. If he's just looking to hook up and the car does the trick, well I guess that's why he doesn't care.
Just my guess.
don't cute puppy dogs accomplish the same?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 16, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
Think Oscar Wilde when he said, 'every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.' But also think Neil Young. 'The fork in the road, light a candle'. Instead of cursing the darkness, let's light a candle for where we're going. This was fantastic for the world. We are better people for having been here. It was absolutely incredible. I'm inspired. I don't know when I'll ever sleep again.
Bill Walton is a genius.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 19, 2015, 01:14:24 PM
don't cute puppy dogs accomplish the same?
Or beef brisket? 8-)
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 19, 2015, 07:53:55 AM
The MU conspiracy continues....Rickey's On State now involved. Seriously rent a bus to go to Rickey's?
Hey, I have been on no fewer than 3 bus trips from Illinois to Rickey's for bachelor parties, including mine....
Quote from: Avenue Commons on December 19, 2015, 01:00:27 PM
Never understood this logic. It's certainly true with some d-bags, but I like cars and I've had people make that joke. I'd drive the same cars if no one ever saw me. I just like cars. That's it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV9Uu2T0q0E
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 19, 2015, 01:14:24 PM
don't cute puppy dogs accomplish the same?
Yeah, but then you have to deal with the puppy, which as a young guy can be a pain in the rear (and I love dogs).
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2015, 03:07:05 PM
Yeah, but then you have to deal with the puppy, which as a young guy can be a pain in the rear (and I love dogs).
Puppy is a lot cheaper than a cool car. You could pay a dog walker/caretaker for way less than the monthly car payment.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 19, 2015, 03:19:08 PM
Puppy is a lot cheaper than a cool car. You could pay a dog walker/caretaker for way less than the monthly car payment.
Agree, it's the waking up three times during the night, crapping on the carpet, dealing with it during the day while you are work, etc, stuff that's the challenge...for a young guy anyway.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
Agree, it's the waking up three times during the night, crapping on the carpet, dealing with it during the day while you are work, etc, stuff that's the challenge...for a young guy anyway.
Yeah, but if it gets you laid once in awhile....
Quote from: warriorchick on December 19, 2015, 03:49:24 PM
Yeah, but if it gets you laid once in awhile....
That's what charm and alcohol is for....
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
That's what charm and alcohol is for....
I too used this time honored method, the classics never go out of style.
I found an impressive title and corporate position wasn't bad either
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
That's what charm and alcohol is for....
And if that doesn't work, you call the girl a tease...
Bo Ryan & ZFB both got puppies for the sole purpose of teaching it the peanut butter trick.
Speaking of Bo, is he back at it with the gun play again today?!?! Sheesh. (http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/multiple-gunshots-reported-at-east-towne-mall/article_e739a252-b79b-535b-afc0-1de3d61f04ff.html)
Quote from: warriorchick on December 19, 2015, 05:40:50 PM
And if that doesn't work, you call the girl a tease...
That's when you pull the blue balls ploy...
https://www.youtube.com/v/iNzGMMCz6gM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
That's what charm and alcohol is for....
I hope youre not suggesting liquoring someone up so they will have sex with you
Better than pullin' a Crosby, ai na?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 19, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
I hope youre not suggesting liquoring someone up so they will have sex with you
I'm guessing you aren't serious and this was supposed to be in teal, but not really sure.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2015, 07:41:13 PM
Better than pullin' a Crosby, ai na?
"You put the Quaalude into the Jello Puddin Pop. Then you put the Puddin Pop into the puddin..."
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
I'm guessing you aren't serious and this was supposed to be in teal, but not really sure.
I was assuming yours was teal and was responding in teal
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2015, 07:41:13 PM
Better than pullin' a Crosby, ai na?
Bing or David?
Or, God forbid, Sydney?
Quote from: warriorchick on December 19, 2015, 01:09:08 PM
I never did understand that logic, from either the guy's or the girl's perspective.
If the girls didn't buy the act, the guys wouldn't buy the car.
If you peel back a few layers, you'll see that the guy buys the car because it's the girl that's compensating for something.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 19, 2015, 01:44:27 PM
Or beef brisket? 8-)
beautiful! cut to the chase-pull out the ole brisket, if they can't appreciate a good piece of meat, ya always got it all to yourself-heyna? a little fine wine, soft music and ...
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 19, 2015, 01:14:24 PM
don't cute puppy dogs accomplish the same?
In Fast Times at Ridgemont High it was also recommended to play Kashmir from Led Zep IV while driving a gal to "The Point"
Quote from: keefe on December 20, 2015, 10:15:53 AM
In Fast Times at Ridgemont High it was also recommended to play Kashmir from Led Zep IV while driving a gal to "The Point"
The actual high school used for that was El Segundo High School. Down the street from Directv. George Brett, Ken Brett, Bobby Beathard, Scott McGregor and at least 3 or 4 pro volleyball players.
Spicoli and Mr Hand...rumored to have attended.
So is it Tara?
Quote from: keefe on December 20, 2015, 10:15:53 AM
In Fast Times at Ridgemont High it was also recommended to play Kashmir from Led Zep IV while driving a gal to "The Point"
He was told to play side 2 of LZ IV. Next scene is the car scene with kashmir playing ....a song from physical graffiti.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on December 20, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
He was told to play side 2 of LZ IV. Next scene is the car scene with kashmir playing ....a song from physical graffiti.
Hey! You are correct. Good catch.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 20, 2015, 12:15:13 PM
So is it Tara?
The real issue is the purchase of adjoining hotel rooms for all those road games. If I were a taxpayer in The People's Democratic Republic of Wisconsin I would be pissed having paid for Bo's dalliances over several seasons.
I heard that the HotelRed was the new Tara with Bo as Rhett planting his muddy boots nightly in that moist loamy soil.
(https://classicfilmfanatic.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/gone-with-the-wind-gone-with-the-wind-4377797-1024-768.jpg)
http://deadspin.com/wisconsin-investigated-bo-ryan-after-extramarital-affai-1762792798
Following allegations made in February 2015 by a woman who claimed she carried on a lengthy affair with then-Wisconsin head coach Bo Ryan, the university conducted an investigation into his conduct and concluded in May that Ryan did not misuse university resources. According to a statement from university chancellor Rebecca Blank, Ryan's unexpected resignation seven months later was "entirely his decision."
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 05, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
http://deadspin.com/wisconsin-investigated-bo-ryan-after-extramarital-affai-1762792798
Following allegations made in February 2015 by a woman who claimed she carried on a lengthy affair with then-Wisconsin head coach Bo Ryan, the university conducted an investigation into his conduct and concluded in May that Ryan did not misuse university resources. According to a statement from university chancellor Rebecca Blank, Ryan's unexpected resignation seven months later was "entirely his decision."
As a result of the unexpected pregnancy.
Hoping theres still more to this story
Quote from: wadesworld on March 05, 2016, 11:30:41 AM
As a result of the unexpected pregnancy.
It's at least an admission of an affair, which will still drive UW fans nuts. That's fine by me
So....he was banging another chick? Yawn.
I'm still holding out hope he murdered somebody at AutoZone
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 05, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
http://deadspin.com/wisconsin-investigated-bo-ryan-after-extramarital-affai-1762792798
Following allegations made in February 2015 by a woman who claimed she carried on a lengthy affair with then-Wisconsin head coach Bo Ryan, the university conducted an investigation into his conduct and concluded in May that Ryan did not misuse university resources. According to a statement from university chancellor Rebecca Blank, Ryan's unexpected resignation seven months later was "entirely his decision."
This means UW will be banned from the NCAA tourney, right?
Well, it's officially out there now and confirmed by UW-Madison and Bo Ryan. I'm sure there are more details, like the pregnancy and when the women became "unaffiliated" with the university, but those might not show up in a public documents request. It's interesting they can get a copy of expense reports from recruiting trips.
Quote from: Litehouse on March 05, 2016, 11:39:45 AM
Well, it's officially out there now and confirmed by UW-Madison and Bo Ryan. I'm sure there are more details, like the pregnancy and when the women became "unaffiliated" with the university, but those might not show up in a public documents request. It's interesting they can get a copy of expense reports from recruiting trips.
I doubt there is anything within those expense reports. The real question is if he charged anything to Wisconsin Basketball Boosters, Inc. (a non-state entity) Not subject to freedom of information requests.
My sources in Madison are very connected...as in know Bo and wife.
Apparently it was another woman who went to the chancellor(Not Tara). Tara was also highly "engaged" with Bo too. Bo was pretty damned sneaky about this.
Also heard Bo described as one of the most selfish, greedy individuals on the planet.
What I don't get is why the Madison press continues to not report this.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 05, 2016, 11:44:26 AM
My sources in Madison are very connected...as in know Bo and wife.
Apparently it was another woman who went to the chancellor(Not Tara). Tara was also highly "engaged" with Bo too. Bo was pretty damned sneaky about this.
Also heard Bo described as one of the most selfish, greedy individuals on the planet.
What I don't get is why the Madison press continues to not report this.
Because they likely would get their access restricted.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 05, 2016, 11:45:04 AM
Because they likely would get their access restricted.
What happened to the concept of the Fourth Estate?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 05, 2016, 11:57:53 AM
What happened to the concept of the Fourth Estate?
No one would restrict what they write. They just would suddenly not get access to practices, coaches, etc.
Well it is finally out there.
Wonder if Badger fans will still say Bo always did things the 'right way'.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 05, 2016, 11:45:04 AM
Because they likely would get their access restricted.
I don't think sarcasm real was necessary by Real Chili.
Madison media going to protect him to the core and the university, and access absolutely in question because that's how Barry operates.
What is even better about this report...the university says they fully investigated...guarantee the media will say "ok"....just take their word for it.
Such a joke. Bo is such a class A douche from the Holman funeral years ago and beyond. Great coach, but grade A douche like many of their fans. Can't wait for the Bo Ryan naming of the court.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 05, 2016, 11:44:26 AM
My sources in Madison are very connected...as in know Bo and wife.
Apparently it was another woman who went to the chancellor(Not Tara). Tara was also highly "engaged" with Bo too. Bo was pretty damned sneaky about this.
Also heard Bo described as one of the most selfish, greedy individuals on the planet.
What I don't get is why the Madison press continues to not report this.
what?? with your inside connects and you're just gonna leave us all hangin out here, panting for more... ;) this isn't called the "scoop" for nothin ya know ;D
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 05, 2016, 12:17:20 PM
Such a joke. Bo is such a class A douche from the Holman funeral years ago and beyond.
What did this part refer to? Just curious
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 05, 2016, 12:17:20 PM
I don't think sarcasm real was necessary by Real Chili.
Madison media going to protect him to the core and the university, and access absolutely in question because that's how Barry operates.
What is even better about this report...the university says they fully investigated...guarantee the media will say "ok"....just take their word for it.
Such a joke. Bo is such a class A douche from the Holman funeral years ago and beyond. Great coach, but grade A douche like many of their fans. Can't wait for the Bo Ryan naming of the court.
What's the Holman funeral story?
I expected this to come out about 5 days earlier. Can't find the post though.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 05, 2016, 12:49:51 PM
I expected this to come out about 5 days earlier. Can't find the post though.
I remember you did Wades. I brought this up the other day. You said by the end of February it would be out.
Props
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on March 05, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
I remember you did Wades. I brought this up the other day. You said by the end of February it would be out.
Props
Thank you. For what it's worth I have heard the NCAA was aware of the situation and may be looking into it.
Isn't that a huge story by itself? The intimidation factor by UW if the local press is stonewalled from access? The local press has the upper hand in this.
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What's the Holman funeral story?
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Bruce, Bo, and the Homan funeral (the remix)
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Quote from: reinko on January 04, 2011, 02:27:56 PM
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I should have said Homan funeral, not Holman. My apologies.
Bruce showed up at the funeral in a stretch limo, which was not the right thing to do and everyone knew it. A number of people were astonished that Bruce would do this, but of course a number weren't as he rolls differently than most. Many people were pissed.
Let's just say that Bo decided that instead of keeping it "in house", he was going to put it out there in the press. Now, I admire Bo for knowing right from wrong and understanding that Bruce was a dink for doing this. But rehashing it after the funeral the way he did, publicly, what's the point?
Ryan said that several people called to tell him that Tennessee coach Bruce Pearl had a stretch limousine waiting to pick him up after he attended the recent funeral for former UWM and UW-La Crosse basketball player Luke Homan. Pearl coached Homan when they were both at Milwaukee.
"That's how he was picked up at the funeral. You wouldn't believe the number of people who said, 'How in the heck could he have the audacity to make it a spectacle about himself?' " Ryan said incredulously.
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Very clever of them to release it today, when they knew the media and basketball fans would be focused on the Marquette/Butler game.
This broke a little while ago (woman is named):
(Turn your sound down on the first link if you don't want to hear pounding music.)
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/03/05/bo-ryan-wisconsin-badgers-misusing-resources-cleared-affair
http://www.entrabusiness.com/meet-robin.html
An athletic dept official led the investigation....that's awesome.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 05, 2016, 07:35:46 PM
An athletic dept official led the investigation....that's awesome.
Any chance ncaa will double check their findings?
"Our focus is on moving forward in a relationship that is stronger than ever."
AKA, my wife and I no longer live together, which makes our relationship stronger than ever.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 05, 2016, 07:59:15 PM
Any chance ncaa will double check their findings?
None
Why would Bo go to UW administration if he was having an affair with a girl who was not employed by UW, who was still 2 months away from alerting UW administration about her affair with UW, and did not use UW resources on his side chick?
That dog don't hunt
Quote from: wadesworld on March 05, 2016, 10:27:39 PM
Why would Bo go to UW administration if he was having an affair with a girl who was not employed by UW, who was still 2 months away from alerting UW administration about her affair with UW, and did not use UW resources on his side chick?
It had broken off. Many years had gone by and he stayed silent. When she got upset that he only wanted sex via her strapping it on and banging him, he knew she's come out publicly and disclose things. So he told people.
There are other chicks he banged / had bang him. They are on OK terms thanks to cash settlements. Thus, he hasn't disclosed those relationships.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 05, 2016, 07:20:33 PM
This broke a little while ago (woman is named):
(Turn your sound down on the first link if you don't want to hear pounding music.)
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/03/05/bo-ryan-wisconsin-badgers-misusing-resources-cleared-affair
http://www.entrabusiness.com/meet-robin.html
In the second link, the woman's motivation is finally revealed.
"...to provide comfort care to those who are at end of life."
can ya blame her? dude was cheating on his wife with her and he wasn't being honest with HER :o what esle did he tell her that turned out to be untrue?r...i promise not to....in your... ::)
Wonder if she realizes yet that she will now have eternal life as a vampire...
What would some broad want with that old fart, hey?
The reader comments on this Deadspin article are hilariously snarky. I only wish I was as clever as some of these folks:
http://deadspin.com/wisconsin-investigated-bo-ryan-after-extramarital-affai-1762792798
Quote from: wadesworld on March 05, 2016, 10:27:39 PM
Why would Bo go to UW administration if he was having an affair with a girl who was not employed by UW, who was still 2 months away from alerting UW administration about her affair with UW, and did not use UW resources on his side chick?
Because she probably threatened him about coming out with the story.
So a women reports that she accompanied Bo on numerous recruiting trips for Free, but somehow they deem that no funds were used?
Seems to me they are using a common cover.
Well, the private jet was already paid for and his rooms were already paid for so he is entitled to bring a guest. And she didn't eat or drink anything, because she is a mutant (who else would bang the Grinch).
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 05, 2016, 10:52:16 PM
It had broken off. Many years had gone by and he stayed silent. When she got upset that he only wanted sex via her strapping it on and banging him, he knew she's come out publicly and disclose things. So he told people.
There are other chicks he banged / had bang him. They are on OK terms thanks to cash settlements. Thus, he hasn't disclosed those relationships.
PLEASE tell me this is true
Quote from: forgetful on March 06, 2016, 02:44:13 PM
So a women reports that she accompanied Bo on numerous recruiting trips for Free, but somehow they deem that no funds were used?
Seems to me they are using a common cover.
Well, the private jet was already paid for and his rooms were already paid for so he is entitled to bring a guest. And she didn't eat or drink anything, because she is a mutant (who else would bang the Grinch).
Or the booster club paid for it. Which would be outside state oversight.
Some big boosters have been covering for Bo for a long time.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 06, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
Or the booster club paid for it. Which would be outside state oversight.
Is there any other area in which private organizations or individuals can funnel money to a state employee? I realize its common for coaches, but it seems like this would not be allowed in any other area for public employees under ethics rules, etc. The ethics rules seem vague enough that they could go after someone if they wanted to, but also justify not doing anything as well. It certainly seems like no one at UW is interested in pursuing this any further.
https://www.wisconsin.edu/general-counsel/legal-topics/ethics/
Regardless, this is a masterful example of PR. All the headlines are "Bo cleared of all wrongdoing", when nobody was even aware there was an investigation to begin with, and everyone except a few diehards didn't even know about the affairs.
Well almost every state university has an associated foundation that raises money on its behalf. Many have other booster clubs and the like as well. And if those organizations are run well, that's a good thing. Marquette's team and staff have access to charter jets and the like. Public university coaches should have the same advantage, but you shouldn't charge that to the state. Make donors pay for it since they have a vested interest.
But poorly run organizations can ignore IRS regulations, etc. And there isn't a great deal of oversight with many not-for-profits unless they are a complete sh*tshow. Too many of them. They are too small. Just hope they have good auditors.
And I shouldn't have made the proclamation that the Wisconsin Boosters paid for her travel. Maybe Bo did pay for it himself. But if she have her trips reimbursed by Boosters, or Bo had her travel reimbursed by Boosters, that should be considered taxable income because her attendance wasn't necessary for business related purposes.
Not hard to imagine why they didn't find any funds spent on Robin. They fly charter, so no airplane tickets. Particularly on recruiting trips where it's just a couple of people going, probably on a small aircraft. She stays in Bo's hotel room, so no separate hotel bill. Dinner receipts, etc. are easy to fudge who was present, perhaps not even required by UW if under $75.
Is Bo's Viagra covered by the health plan... because that would seem like a clear case of University funds being spent on this woman.
Unless he's using the internet-grade stuff because he likes to "slow things down."
I feel like this thread will never get old...
Quote from: Benny B on March 07, 2016, 12:30:53 PM
Is Bo's Viagra covered by the health plan... because that would seem like a clear case of University funds being spent on this woman.
Unless he's using the internet-grade stuff because he likes to "slow things down."
i'm sure you posted this partially as tongue in cheek, BUT, believe it or not, there are a few other things viagra can be used for besides...that
hey, maybe, just maybe bo used it to keep his fresh cut flowers fresher-refer to #6. or if he took her to colorado, it would help him thru a "let's play 2" moment(#3) enna so?
http://www.care2.com/causes/6-uses-for-viagra-besides-that-one-2.html
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 07, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
i'm sure you posted this partially as tongue in cheek, BUT, believe it or not, there are a few other things viagra can be used for besides...that
hey, maybe, just maybe bo used it to keep his fresh cut flowers fresher-refer to #6. or if he took her to colorado, it would help him thru a "let's play 2" moment(#3) enna so?
http://www.care2.com/causes/6-uses-for-viagra-besides-that-one-2.html
Perhaps it was tongue-in-cheek. Just not the tongue and cheek one would immediately assume.
Quote from: Benny B on March 07, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Perhaps it was tongue-in-cheek. Just not the tongue and cheek one would immediately assume.
So you're sayin Bo likes the rim job, a'ina(l) ?
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Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2016, 09:19:04 PM
So you're sayin Bo likes the rim job, a'ina(l) ?
(http://static-32.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/167741ff-b9f2-43f4-9cef-6b7be6bf95a4-boryan6?1434028924757)
It's called a "dental massage."
So, the almighty "Bo" couldn't keep his zipper shut.
When Bo said he liked four and five year players I didn't realize he was talking about himself!
The last page of this thread has gone full Scoop
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I wonder if this women's man ever banged Bo's wife?
Would prove Bo really does like "the Swing".
Thought this thread might need a bumpity bump for #BadgerHateWeek