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Title: Ivory Towers
Post by: alexius23 on December 12, 2015, 02:48:08 PM
Are they the best front line duo since Jim Chones, Maurice Lucas & Larry McNeill? (Of course the 3 never played together but as duos they did)
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: We R Final Four on December 12, 2015, 02:50:14 PM
Mac and Key.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: brewcity77 on December 12, 2015, 02:50:54 PM
Hmm...tough to discount how good McIlvaine and Key were during their four years together.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: BossplayaOtto on December 12, 2015, 02:52:59 PM
How quickly we forget about Otule and Gardner.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Marqevans on December 12, 2015, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: alexius23 on December 12, 2015, 02:48:08 PM
Are they the best front line duo since Jim Chones, Maurice Lucas & Larry McNeill? (Of course the 3 never played together but as duos they did)


Oh why oh why didn't happen!  If only there were no freshmen teams then and no ABA.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: kryza on December 12, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on December 12, 2015, 02:52:59 PM
How quickly we forget about Otule and Gardner.

They didn't play together nearly as much as this duo does now. They also never really dominated while playing together like many of us hoped they would.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: warriorchick on December 12, 2015, 03:40:45 PM
"Ivory Towers" is awesome.  We gotta make that stick.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: keefe on December 12, 2015, 03:49:49 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 12, 2015, 02:50:14 PM
Mac and Key...

...couldn't begin to carry any of Chones, Luke, or McNeills' jockstraps. Those guys were the very best in the nation.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Goose on December 12, 2015, 04:49:01 PM
I felt going into the season that Luke would be the most improved guy due to Henry and he is playing at a high level. Would love to an agent for those two guys for the next 15 years.

This team can end being quite good if the big guys stay healthy. Hard to guard two gifted big men at the same time.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: wadesworld on December 12, 2015, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: kryza on December 12, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
They didn't play together nearly as much as this duo does now. They also never really dominated while playing together like many of us hoped they would.

That...and the fact that both Henry and Luke are better than either Gardner or (especially, and I liked him) OTule.  Gardner was probably the most gifted low post scorer, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 12, 2015, 05:53:40 PM
Big man's game, ai na?
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 12, 2015, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 12, 2015, 02:50:54 PM
Hmm...tough to discount how good McIlvaine and Key were during their four years together.

Not so hot in year one.  Mostly Key and Curry, then.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 12, 2015, 08:24:08 PM
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on December 12, 2015, 02:52:59 PM
How quickly we forget about Otule and Gardner.

After all the effort it took me to get there, you just had to make me remember again.  Geez!
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: augoman on December 12, 2015, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 12, 2015, 03:40:45 PM
"Ivory Towers" is awesome.  We gotta make that stick.
IDK Chick, that "ivory towers" was used quite a bit about uw-madison's Hughes twins-as a term of derision.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: We R Final Four on December 12, 2015, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 12, 2015, 03:49:49 PM
...couldn't begin to carry any of Chones, Luke, or McNeills' jockstraps. Those guys were the very best in the nation.

Quote from: alexius23 on December 12, 2015, 02:48:08 PM
Are they the best front line duo since Jim Chones, Maurice Lucas & Larry McNeill? (Of course the 3 never played together but as duos they did)

Since.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: warriorchick on December 12, 2015, 09:27:06 PM
Quote from: augoman on December 12, 2015, 09:05:26 PM
IDK Chick, that "ivory towers" was used quite a bit about uw-madison's Hughes twins-as a term of derision.

Most MU fans are too young to remember the Hughes twins.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Herman Cain on December 12, 2015, 09:29:49 PM
Quote from: alexius23 on December 12, 2015, 02:48:08 PM
Are they the best front line duo since Jim Chones, Maurice Lucas & Larry McNeill? (Of course the 3 never played together but as duos they did)
I would say Bo Ellis and Jerome Whitehead where quite a frontcourt duo....I am old enough to remember Hughes twins.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: MU82 on December 12, 2015, 10:03:42 PM
Marquardt/Nyenhuis, my friends!
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: keefe on December 12, 2015, 10:07:57 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on December 12, 2015, 09:29:49 PM
I would say Bo Ellis and Jerome Whitehead where quite a frontcourt duo....I am old enough to remember Hughes twins.

Butrym made it an invincible triple wall of terror...
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: MU82 on December 12, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
This from Wojo after game:

"I wouldn't trade them for any frontcourt in the country."
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on December 15, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Speaking of Devante, he just made the All-Star team for the Nishinomiya Storks.  Go Ox!
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 15, 2015, 09:27:36 AM
Quote from: MU82 on December 12, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
This from Wojo after game:

"I wouldn't trade them for any frontcourt in the country."

Maybe Purdue's, wouldn't trade for Maryland's. Those are the only candidates if you ask me. 
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: swoopem on December 15, 2015, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 15, 2015, 09:27:36 AM
Maybe Purdue's, wouldn't trade for Maryland's. Those are the only candidates if you ask me.

I was having this conversation the other day. I said we have a top 5 front court and in no order I named us, Purdue, Gonzaga, Maryland, but couldn't think of a 5th...maybe Kansas? Of course all the Michigan State slapys I work with claimed I was nuts and then started drooling over Costelo
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 15, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: swoopem on December 15, 2015, 10:06:40 AM
I was having this conversation the other day. I said we have a top 5 front court and in no order I named us, Purdue, Gonzaga, Maryland, but couldn't think of a 5th...maybe Kansas? Of course all the Michigan State slapys I work with claimed I was nuts and then started drooling over Costelo

I can't actually think of a distinct fifth either. 
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Pakuni on December 15, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
Rod Grosse and Joe Nethen were the original Ivory Towers.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 15, 2015, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 12, 2015, 09:27:06 PM
Most MU fans are too young to remember the Hughes twins.

I think most MU fans remember their dad more than them.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 15, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 15, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
Rod Grosse and Joe Nethen were the original Ivory Towers.

Followed by Roman Mueller and "Biggie" Clausen.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 15, 2015, 02:40:11 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 15, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
Rod Grosse and Joe Nethen were the original Ivory Towers.

Grosse certainly was stiff enough to play the part.

Nethen needs a qualifier that the nickname was not academically inspired.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 15, 2015, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 15, 2015, 12:19:40 PM
I think most MU fans remember their dad more than them.

Was he the guy signaling that Marquette was number one after we beat Wisconsin at home?
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Marqevans on December 15, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
Is any one else thinking that not only will Henry be gone, but the way Luke is playing he might be gone too after this season.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 15, 2015, 04:55:25 PM
Quote from: Marqevans on December 15, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
Is any one else thinking that not only will Henry be gone, but the way Luke is playing he might be gone too after this season.

I don't think that Luke is quite there, and he's not showing yet in mock drafts.  Continued strong showings could change that, but I think that he'll need another year.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: tower912 on December 15, 2015, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: Marqevans on December 15, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
Is any one else thinking that not only will Henry be gone, but the way Luke is playing he might be gone too after this season.

I am not going to worry about Luke leaving unless he suddenly shows the ability to hit a 12 foot jumper.   Right now, I don't think he can score in the NBA except on put backs.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 15, 2015, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on December 15, 2015, 02:42:25 PM
Was he the guy signaling that Marquette was number one after we beat Wisconsin at home?

Yep.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: MU88 on December 15, 2015, 05:21:20 PM
Has the awesome tandem of Copa and Downing been erased from the MU history books?
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 16, 2015, 12:45:22 AM
Quote from: Marqevans on December 15, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
Is any one else thinking that not only will Henry be gone, but the way Luke is playing he might be gone too after this season.

Nope
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: forgetful on December 16, 2015, 01:06:51 AM
Quote from: Marqevans on December 15, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
Is any one else thinking that not only will Henry be gone, but the way Luke is playing he might be gone too after this season.

There is zero chance this occurs.  Well, nothing is ever zero, so 0.56%.  I'm 99.44% pure on this.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 16, 2015, 07:04:37 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 15, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
Rod Grosse and Joe Nethen were the original Ivory Towers.

Ouch!  Re-living my Marquette years.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Marqevans on December 16, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: forgetful on December 16, 2015, 01:06:51 AM
There is zero chance this occurs.  Well, nothing is ever zero, so 0.56%.  I'm 99.44% pure on this.
f

He might never look better than he does playing next to Henry.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: tower912 on December 16, 2015, 01:48:58 PM
IIRC, Roman Mueller and Rod Grosse were around at the same time briefly.   14 ft and 425 lbs of projects.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on December 16, 2015, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Marqevans on December 16, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
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He might never look better than he does playing next to Henry.

The Scott Merritt to Henry's Dwyane, if you will.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 16, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 15, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
Rod Grosse and Joe Nethen were the original Ivory Towers.

You are a bad, bad man.  Those were my years at MU, a very dark time indeed for men's hoops.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 16, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Was Nethen the crazy dude that everyone seems to have stories about?
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 16, 2015, 03:37:16 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 16, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Was Nethen the crazy dude that everyone seems to have stories about?

Yes!
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 16, 2015, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 16, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Was Nethen the crazy dude that everyone seems to have stories about?

Careful who you call crazy!  Him and his significant other used to post here occasionally.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=5098.msg45500#msg45500
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: ATWizJr on December 16, 2015, 03:49:16 PM
Whitehead and Ellis.
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: tower912 on December 16, 2015, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 16, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Was Nethen the crazy dude that everyone seems to have stories about?
Oh, yes.    Doesn't mean he is a bad guy. 
Title: Re: Ivory Towers
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 17, 2015, 12:21:05 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 16, 2015, 07:04:37 AM
Ouch!  Re-living my Marquette years.

I am truly sorry.  How did you become a basketball fan?
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