I'm sure tower will be along before too long, but I thought I'd chip in my two cents until he gets here.
- Dominant performance. Yes, this was a cupcake, but 37 points is still impressive.
- Turnovers were improved. I didn't track numbers by half, but 14 turnovers in an 82 possession game (17.1%) isn't bad.
- Cupcake level...better. Maine in stretches looked like a decent team, they just couldn't deal with our interior strength. Once Wally and Luke sat, they played us pretty even.
- Block party today. Four guys with multiple blocks, Luke with 4.
- Hot long range shooting continued, 7/13 today.
- Effort definitely declined in the second half. Granted, a comfortable lead, but a few too many sloppy turnovers, also allowed a few too many chances on the offensive glass. We can do this today, but they need to get used to 40 minutes of effort for conference play.
- Free throws still shaky. 65.4% isn't quite terrible, and only Cohen missed more than 1 FT (0/2), but I hate leaving points at the line.
- Speaking of Cohen, I really liked his contributions today. Only 5 points, but did a bit of everything. Hit a two, a three, grabbed 3 boards, had 2 blocks, only 1 turnover, and led the team with 8 assists. He's growing into the type of guy that can quietly make the team better.
- We looked better against the press and broke it a few times, but that will continue to be a struggle for these young ballhandlers. Honestly hope to see more cupcakes press us so we get more comfortable with it. At least we know Bucky won't press.
- For Maine, that Devine Eke kid is pretty darn good. Scoring, rebounding, blocking shots, and being forced to play bigger than he is. Enjoyed watching him.
- Good to see Cam Marotta get his first point. Brought a smile to my face.
Definitely better team than grambling.
We just came out on first nailing jumpers with the easy dunks and things snowballed since they started cold.
As game went on they had some guys who could knock down shots and get some boards
Still not much a test though. Hopefully we keep shooting well
Fighting fire, doing reports. Unable to watch a single minute.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 05, 2015, 06:32:22 PM
- Effort definitely declined in the second half. Granted, a comfortable lead, but a few too many sloppy turnovers, also allowed a few too many chances on the offensive glass. We can do this today, but they need to get used to 40 minutes of effort for conference play.
You know though, Wojo got pissed at them and they responded. A young team is going to lose focus. It was good that they got it back.
Congratulations Warriors on the big win!
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 05, 2015, 06:57:15 PM
You know though, Wojo got pissed at them and they responded. A young team is going to lose focus. It was good that they got it back.
Very true. As it was winding down, I was pleased with some of the defensive stops and the last few minutes, even with walk-ons out there, were better.
Also thought dribbling out the clock and taking the violation was pretty classy.
Agree with Devine Eke. Looked him up and he was not even ranked by any service in high school last year. Played in New Jersey and don't know how that kid flew under the radar.
Only thought of day is...... I hope Wojo has a bigman up his sleeve for next year or following. Matt Heldt is not going to be the answer when Luke graduates, or even as a backup next year.
Quote from: nyg on December 05, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Agree with Devine Eke. Looked him up and he was not even ranked by any service in high school last year. Played in New Jersey and don't know how that kid flew under the radar.
Only thought of day is...... I hope Wojo has a bigman up his sleeve for next year or following. Matt Heldt is not going to be the answer when Luke graduates, or even as a backup next year.
A back up point guard would be nice too.
Hard to argue with a 37 point win, but I remain skeptical of how much we can take away from these games. I was glad to see Wojo get a bit fired up when things got sloppy in the second, and the team respond.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 05, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
A back up point guard would be nice too.
He's currently red-shirting.
I'm not putting too much in Heldt's performances just yet. He still looks very young and isn't nearly as developed as our other freshmen. Definitely needs to grow into his body. Who knows what a full year of maturation with a collegiate workout program will do for him? Even if he never develops into more than a Dwight Burke or Chris Otule type player quality wise, those are still valuable guys to have on your roster as upperclassmen.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
He's currently red-shirting.
Yeah that's true. That can likely wait until 2017 then.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
He's currently red-shirting.
Our backcourt is going to be very good next year if Cheatham and Carter develop like I think they will. From what I've heard, Rowsey may be the best backcourt player on our roster right now.
Quote from: connie on December 05, 2015, 07:11:39 PM
Hard to argue with a 37 point win, but I remain skeptical of how much we can take away from these games. I was glad to see Wojo get a bit fired up when things got sloppy in the second, and the team respond.
On the upside, Pomeroy had MU as an 18 point favorite. We eclipsed our predicted margin before Maine scored a point, and I'm not sure they ever got it closer than 18 once we were up 22-0. At least we're outdoing expectations against the cupcakes we are playing. (Trying to put on the happy face)
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
He's currently red-shirting.
Not sure he'll play the PG. His usage rate and percentage of shots taken at UNC-Asheville was higher than any MU player this year including Ellenson. Last year he took an even higher percentage of his team's shots than Matt Carlino did for us. I think he'll more likely be an undersized 2 with the staff hoping Cheatham can indeed develop into a reliable secondary PG option.
Rowsey is not jumping Haanif and Duane so idk how he's gonna be playing the 2.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 05, 2015, 07:23:11 PM
On the upside, Pomeroy had MU as an 18 point favorite. We eclipsed our predicted margin before Maine scored a point, and I'm not sure they ever got it closer than 18 once we were up 22-0. At least we're outdoing expectations against the cupcakes we are playing. (Trying to put on the happy face)
Not sure he'll play the PG. His usage rate and percentage of shots taken at UNC-Asheville was higher than any MU player this year including Ellenson. Last year he took an even higher percentage of his team's shots than Matt Carlino did for us. I think he'll more likely be an undersized 2 with the staff hoping Cheatham can indeed develop into a reliable secondary PG option.
Or Wojo will go with 3 small guards like he's shown he's willing to do at times this season (Carter, Cheatham, and Duane have all been on the floor together for extended minutes I believe in NYC). Cheatham is proving he's a very good option off the ball. If I had to guess it'd be Carter starting at the point with Rowsey backing him up for 8-10 minutes per game and then playing 15-20 minutes off the ball at the 2, with Cheatham, JJJ, Cohen, and Duane splitting up the rest of the 2/3 minutes between them, plus JJJ and Cohen getting a few very limited minutes at the 4.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on December 05, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
Rowsey is not jumping Haanif and Duane so idk how he's gonna be playing the 2.
Last I've heard Rowsey was clearly head and shoulders above both Haanif and Carter, and Haanif has been head and shoulders above Duane so far this season (at least since moving off the ball).
Happy to see Cam get in, get his point. Nice dunk by Wally.
A Cupcake. But, Good to see the lesser players on the team get experience. Wally, Sacar, Mache,
Cam, and even Matt getting valuable time for him. We'll need him this year.
I hope Rowsey is as good as advetised.
Quote from: nyg on December 05, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Agree with Devine Eke. Looked him up and he was not even ranked by any service in high school last year. Played in New Jersey and don't know how that kid flew under the radar.
Only thought of day is...... I hope Wojo has a bigman up his sleeve for next year or following. Matt Heldt is not going to be the answer when Luke graduates, or even as a backup next year.
He was a string bean in high school and PG'd
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/3486692034668602007/boys-basketball-union-catholics-devine-eke-will-take-postgrad-year-at-robinson-school-reopens-recruitment/
Quote from: nyg on December 05, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Agree with Devine Eke. Looked him up and he was not even ranked by any service in high school last year. Played in New Jersey and don't know how that kid flew under the radar.
He was seen PLENTY. I think a part of it was he was an extremely seldom used guy in EYBL play... he played a lot of minutes, but we're talking sub-10% usage. Nice FG% of 70%+ (didn't shoot treys) there and was great from an efficiency perspective, but tiny usage...
...however, those guys he was playing with included Kentucky's Boogie Briscoe and the Seton Hall kids (Whitehead, Desi Rodriguez, Michael Nzei)... Briscoe was at 37% usage, Whitehead at 28%, Desi 23%... playing with great teammates can be fun, but also ... and in this situation, mute your production.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2015, 06:56:01 PM
Fighting fire, doing reports. Unable to watch a single minute.
Life is about setting priorities.
I question your loyalty to our beloved alma mater.
The team is still terrible against the press. Carter would of had a triple double, if he got to play 10 more minutes.
1) It was the closest game we had to an "everything comes together" game. We developed a game plan, stuck to it and did well.
2) We took advantage of a height differential and pounded the ball inside. More importantly, we did dribble drives, penetration and hit outside shots.
3) Jujuan is playing against cupcakes but he continues to look solid. Hope this lasts through Big East schedule.
4) Traci is the real thing. Period. Love him already.
5) See number 4 for Haniff Cheatham.
OK, this cupcake was nice. It's part of a conference where the teams will occupy seeds 13 to 16 in the NCAA tournament. Not as good steam as we are by a long shot. But that said, it was nice to watch a game where it all came together.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 05, 2015, 07:34:50 PM
Or Wojo will go with 3 small guards like he's shown he's willing to do at times this season (Carter, Cheatham, and Duane have all been on the floor together for extended minutes I believe in NYC). Cheatham is proving he's a very good option off the ball. If I had to guess it'd be Carter starting at the point with Rowsey backing him up for 8-10 minutes per game and then playing 15-20 minutes off the ball at the 2, with Cheatham, JJJ, Cohen, and Duane splitting up the rest of the 2/3 minutes between them, plus JJJ and Cohen getting a few very limited minutes at the 4.
Exactly. I don't see why, in this day and age of versatile players sharing the court and of teams' willingness to play small-ball, so many here keep trying to label guys as 1s, 2s and 3s. There might be times next season that Traci, Duane and Rowsey are on the court together. Who knows?
Quote from: dgies9156 on December 05, 2015, 10:51:12 PM
1) It was the closest game we had to an "everything comes together" game. We developed a game plan, stuck to it and did well.
2) We took advantage of a height differential and pounded the ball inside. More importantly, we did dribble drives, penetration and hit outside shots.
3) Jujuan is playing against cupcakes but he continues to look solid. Hope this lasts through Big East schedule.
4) Traci is the real thing. Period. Love him already.
5) See number 4 for Haniff Cheatham.
OK, this cupcake was nice. It's part of a conference where the teams will occupy seeds 13 to 16 in the NCAA tournament. Not as good steam as we are by a long shot. But that said, it was nice to watch a game where it all came together.
JJJ did great against LSU, too. He's a good player. Not great, not a superstar, but a nice player in the rotation and I really like him coming off the bench to provide a spark.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on December 05, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
He was a string bean in high school and PG'd
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/3486692034668602007/boys-basketball-union-catholics-devine-eke-will-take-postgrad-year-at-robinson-school-reopens-recruitment/
Evidently, from the article, God led Eke to Orono. Who knew The Alimghty liked Maine that much.
I love that we are beating cupcake teams by a margin you'd expect. Didn't really ever see blowouts like this with Crean/Buzz... Played down to the competition.
Quote from: Grayson Allen on December 05, 2015, 11:35:14 PM
I love that we are beating cupcake teams by a margin you'd expect. Didn't really ever see blowouts like this with Crean/Buzz... Played down to the competition.
Actually, Tanned Tommy led us to defeat against Maine
Quote from: Grayson Allen on December 05, 2015, 11:35:14 PM
I love that we are beating cupcake teams by a margin you'd expect. Didn't really ever see blowouts like this with Crean/Buzz... Played down to the competition.
That's not true. We killed a lot of cupcakes under Buzz in 2009 and 2011
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 05, 2015, 07:16:24 PM
Yeah that's true. That can likely wait until 2017 then.
Paging Markus Howard
Quote from: nyg on December 05, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Only thought of day is...... I hope Wojo has a bigman up his sleeve for next year or following. Matt Heldt is not going to be the answer when Luke graduates, or even as a backup next year.
I'm not worried about Heldt. He's a freshmen center. It usually takes them a year or two to even figure out how to use their bodies properly. He'll be ready to go by his junior year.
Quote from: keefe on December 06, 2015, 12:30:08 AM
Actually, Tanned Tommy led us to defeat against Maine
I didn't know Mike Deane went by Tanned Tommy
- The W gives Wojo his first 5 game winning streak as a head coach
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 06, 2015, 01:33:16 AM
I didn't know Mike Deane went by Tanned Tommy
He often does after a bad loss or when the Harbaughs are in a big game and he wants tickets
Duanewade and Warriorfish have been awful quiet lately huh?
Quote from: wadesworld on December 05, 2015, 07:34:50 PM
Or Wojo will go with 3 small guards like he's shown he's willing to do at times this season (Carter, Cheatham, and Duane have all been on the floor together for extended minutes I believe in NYC). Cheatham is proving he's a very good option off the ball. If I had to guess it'd be Carter starting at the point with Rowsey backing him up for 8-10 minutes per game and then playing 15-20 minutes off the ball at the 2, with Cheatham, JJJ, Cohen, and Duane splitting up the rest of the 2/3 minutes between them, plus JJJ and Cohen getting a few very limited minutes at the 4.
I agree with this, and do think we'll see a lot of multiple guard sets. I was more saying that I don't think of Rowsey as a point guard. It's easy to discard the labels, but if we've seen anything the past few weeks, it's that Traci really has that point guard mentality. Duane or Haanif can fill in there, but it's a little bit of square peg, round hole.
We have one guy who is definitely a point and a number of guys who can probably fill in that role if necessary. I think we'd be fine with a backcourt rotation of Traci, Duane, Haanif, and Rowsey, but if something happened to Traci, I would still love one more guy around that was more of a pass-first player.
Quote from: Grayson Allen on December 05, 2015, 11:35:14 PM
I love that we are beating cupcake teams by a margin you'd expect. Didn't really ever see blowouts like this with Crean/Buzz... Played down to the competition.
We saw them from time to time, but I do like that we outdid expectations in three straight cupcakes. It will be interesting to see if we win the next three by 25+ as well, as currently we're about a 19-20 point favorite in all three of our remaining December cupcakes.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 05, 2015, 06:32:22 PM
- Turnovers were improved. I didn't track numbers by half, but 14 turnovers in an 82 possession game (17.1%) isn't bad.
- For Maine, that Devine Eke kid is pretty darn good. Scoring, rebounding, blocking shots, and being forced to play bigger than he is. Enjoyed watching him.
* Thank you for your verbose answer on the turnovers in another thread, except when they got lax, they were much more in control and on game plan the entire game.
* A dad came by to pick up his kid from a play date when the game was on after a couple minutes says "that kid is not going to be in a Maine uniform his entire career"
Quote from: keefe on December 05, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
Life is about setting priorities.
I question your loyalty to our beloved alma mater.
(Hangs head in shame)
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 06, 2015, 05:02:54 AM
Duanewade and Warriorfish have been awful quiet lately huh?
No Wojo bashing by mattyv1908, either.
It's pretty sad when all certain "fans" can do is whine when the team struggles. They rip when we lose, rarely praise when we win. They almost seem to root for failure so they can be "right."
Quote from: keefe on December 06, 2015, 12:30:08 AM
Actually, Tanned Tommy led us to defeat against Maine
Actually he didn't....Mike Deane did in 1997. I worked in the athletic department. It was not a fun evening to be sure.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2015, 10:46:02 AM
Actually he didn't....Mike Deane did in 1997. I worked in the athletic department. It was not a fun evening to be sure.
Yeah, that was a real party that night. Right up there with that NIT game with Western Michigan.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2015, 10:46:02 AM
Actually he didn't....Mike Deane did in 1997. I worked in the athletic department. It was not a fun evening to be sure.
For an alumni base enamored with quirky personalities in its coaches I really do think Mike Deane is underrated. He was a lazy sonuvabitch when it came to coaching but the man was passionate about his drinking, womanizing, and overall bonhomie.
It is time for Mike Deane to claim his rightful place in the pantheon of Marquette Legends.
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 06, 2015, 12:12:26 PM
Yeah, that was a real party that night. Right up there with that NIT game with Western Michigan.
The NIT game the boys mailed it in, had about 15 hours to prepare, no Travis Diener, and just played awful. Made one three pointer for the game. Season was over.
The Maine game, 4 days to prepare...got beat by around 10. Not fun to be at the office and trying to get the public excited about MU hoops to buy tickets as we were only in the first week of February. Not good. That was the year we went crazy in St. Louis and won 4 straight to make the NCAAs.
Quote from: keefe on December 06, 2015, 12:41:03 PM
For an alumni base enamored with quirky personalities in its coaches I really do think Mike Deane is underrated. He was a lazy sonuvabitch when it came to coaching but the man was passionate about his drinking, womanizing, and overall bonhomie.
It is time for Mike Deane to claim his rightful place in the pantheon of Marquette Legends.
He deserves his rightful spot based on the off court attributes. He also delivered a 100-55 record over the 5 years which was not shabby.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/03/15/why-matt-brady-brought-mike-deane-to-jmu/
Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2015, 09:33:21 AM
So Wojo bashing by mattyv1908, either.
It's pretty sad when all certain "fans" can do is whine when the team struggles. They rip when we lose, rarely praise when we win. They almost seem to root for failure so they can be "right."
I can definitely admit to questioning Wojo's coaching after our disappointing early start. Seemed like the guys weren't responding to him, especially after the Iowa game. Have to give him credit for how well they responded, not just in NYC, but in the return. I know it's hard to judge how well you are playing against teams like this, but I like how they are absolutely throttling these teams above and beyond expectation.
Against LSU, I thought the late game coaching was excellent, both JJJ attacking and the defense on Simmons to force him to let someone else take the last shot. Against ASU, overtime was well managed and I loved how well fouls were managed. Luke was always going to foul out of that game, but ASU had 4 players foul out and we only had Luke.
Since returning, it's been cupcakes, but we've dominated them. Loved the turnover improvement in the last game and even in the second half against Maine. The effort did fall off, but Wojo got them back to playing hard late and it was great to see how well they responded to the coaching in that game, especially with the echoes of Iowa still relatively fresh.
Still want to see more from this staff, but I do feel like there's already tangible improvement this year and I feel much better about them than I did 2-3 weeks ago.
Quote from: keefe on December 06, 2015, 12:41:03 PM
For an alumni base enamored with quirky personalities in its coaches I really do think Mike Deane is underrated. He was a lazy sonuvabitch when it came to coaching but the man was passionate about his drinking, womanizing, and overall bonhomie.
It is time for Mike Deane to claim his rightful place in the pantheon of Marquette Legends.
I don't think he was lazy coaching, not the X's and O's anyway. Recruiting, well that is another matter altogether. He didn't like recruit like one needed to at this level, and that hurt the program.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 06, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
I can definitely admit to questioning Wojo's coaching after our disappointing early start. Seemed like the guys weren't responding to him, especially after the Iowa game. Have to give him credit for how well they responded, not just in NYC, but in the return. I know it's hard to judge how well you are playing against teams like this, but I like how they are absolutely throttling these teams above and beyond expectation.
Against LSU, I thought the late game coaching was excellent, both JJJ attacking and the defense on Simmons to force him to let someone else take the last shot. Against ASU, overtime was well managed and I loved how well fouls were managed. Luke was always going to foul out of that game, but ASU had 4 players foul out and we only had Luke.
Since returning, it's been cupcakes, but we've dominated them. Loved the turnover improvement in the last game and even in the second half against Maine. The effort did fall off, but Wojo got them back to playing hard late and it was great to see how well they responded to the coaching in that game, especially with the echoes of Iowa still relatively fresh.
Still want to see more from this staff, but I do feel like there's already tangible improvement this year and I feel much better about them than I did 2-3 weeks ago.
I just don't see how so many people could have been so uber-panicked after Iowa. It was too early. And it's too early now to say Wojo has "figured out" anything, either.
Even keel, folks. We'll see how good MU is and Wojo in the coming months and years.
Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2015, 05:40:35 PM
I just don't see how so many people could have been so uber-panicked after Iowa. It was too early. And it's too early now to say Wojo has "figured out" anything, either.
Even keel, folks. We'll see how good MU is and Wojo in the coming months and years.
Agreed. I wouldn't say I was panicked at all, but I did think there were some questions worth asking. Thus far, the staff is doing a nice job of answering them based on how the team has responded. And yes, it will take more time to evaluate him as a coach. I agree with the 4-5 years to fully evaluate a coach. But I do like how the team has responded since their shaky start.
I really like this year's team and am trying to figure out what I think would be a successful year. The thing is, the Big East is very good. We all want to see this team dance, but we could win 7 or 8 conference games and it'd still be a big improvement, especially with a young team. I think my real hope right now is a winning overall record (17-15 at worst), 7 conference wins, and clear, consistent improvement, win or lose.
That said, I do feel that 23+ wins and a NCAA berth are not completely unrealistic. In an ideal world, I'm thinking 37-2 would make for a great season.
Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2015, 05:40:35 PM
I just don't see how so many people could have been so uber-panicked after Iowa. It was too early. And it's too early now to say Wojo has "figured out" anything, either.
Even keel, folks. We'll see how good MU is and Wojo in the coming months and years.
I don't know about an all-time historic low, but Iowa was as low as I can remember. I don't know if I was panicked, but I sure did not have optimistic thoughts after that game, even if the team is young. Very happy with how they played in NY, and that they are beating the sweet gooey filling out of the cupcakes. Sorry, that's about as even keel as I get. Need to check on some zanax.
Quote from: connie on December 06, 2015, 10:11:14 PM
I don't know about an all-time historic low, but Iowa was as low as I can remember.
Recent veteran MU teams expected to compete for NCAA tournament and upper half of Big East standings got murdered in recent years by Vanderbilt, Florida and Ohio State ... and also lost to Green Bay ... and also barely beat the likes of Norfolk State and Southern ... and THIS loss to Iowa by a freshman-filled team coached by a neophyte represented some kind of low? Really?
I guess you weren't around for Dukiet. Or much of Deane. Or lots of O'Neill. Or even a good chunk of Majerus.
You must have been suicidal when a team with Wade and Diener lost to Tulsa.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I don't think he was lazy coaching, not the X's and O's anyway. Recruiting, well that is another matter altogether. He didn't like recruit like one needed to at this level, and that hurt the program.
This is definitely a more accurate picture of Deane. I would've traded more wins for the drinks shared and fun at soccer practices and games that he attended, but my MU experience would also have been different without those . . . experiences.
Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2015, 10:42:21 PM
Recent veteran MU teams expected to compete for NCAA tournament and upper half of Big East standings got murdered in recent years by Vanderbilt, Florida and Ohio State ... and also lost to Green Bay ... and also barely beat the likes of Norfolk State and Southern ... and THIS loss to Iowa by a freshman-filled team coached by a neophyte represented some kind of low? Really?
I guess you weren't around for Dukiet. Or much of Deane. Or lots of O'Neill. Or even a good chunk of Majerus.
You must have been suicidal when a team with Wade and Diener lost to Tulsa.
I was around for all of that. I drink a lot.
Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2015, 10:42:21 PM
Recent veteran MU teams expected to compete for NCAA tournament and upper half of Big East standings got murdered in recent years by Vanderbilt, Florida and Ohio State ... and also lost to Green Bay ... and also barely beat the likes of Norfolk State and Southern ... and THIS loss to Iowa by a freshman-filled team coached by a neophyte represented some kind of low? Really?
I guess you weren't around for Dukiet. Or much of Deane. Or lots of O'Neill. Or even a good chunk of Majerus.
You must have been suicidal when a team with Wade and Diener lost to Tulsa.
I actually agree with her. By far the lowest of lows in my fandom. But that began in the three Amigos senior year.
Quote from: connie on December 06, 2015, 10:11:14 PM
I don't know about an all-time historic low, but Iowa was as low as I can remember. I don't know if I was panicked, but I sure did not have optimistic thoughts after that game, even if the team is young. Very happy with how they played in NY, and that they are beating the sweet gooey filling out of the cupcakes. Sorry, that's about as even keel as I get. Need to check on some zanax.
There's something different about crushing home losses. You just feel the life sucked out of the building and you're sharing your dismay with 15,000 other people. Not sure that this was any worse than Vanderbilt or that conference loss to St. John's in 2011, but there was a whole lot of empty feelings after Iowa.
As far as that Ohio State game referenced, that was just terrible basketball on both ends. I honestly forgot how big the margin was because I just remember thinking both teams looked pretty awful. The ones that get me are when we get butt-stomped at home and made to look far inferior to the team coming into our gym. I understand why that game would stick out as a low point.