For the record, I'm in the frustrated/something has to change but still believe in Wojo camp. Having said that, Monday's match up will be very telling.
The only thing we're really hanging our hat on at this point is how young this team is. Well according to KenPom, Marquette is 329 in the country at experience(0.89 yrs). LSU is .......328(0.9 yrs). So experience should not matter at all for Monday. We'll found out if we have a coaching or talent gap (or both).
Very interested to see how things go.
Quote from: mu03eng on November 20, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
For the record, I'm in the frustrated/something has to change but still believe in Wojo camp. Having said that, Monday's match up will be very telling.
The only thing we're really hanging our hat on at this point is how young this team is. Well according to KenPom, Marquette is 329 in the country at experience(0.89 yrs). LSU is .......328(0.9 yrs). So experience should not matter at all for Monday. We'll found out if we have a coaching or talent gap (or both).
Very interested to see how things go.
I expect a loss. This team will not beat LSU. I hope we can keep it close.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 20, 2015, 08:03:14 PM
This team will not beat LSU.
The team that played against IUPUI and Iowa certainly won't. The team that played Belmont has a pretty decent chance.
Losing to Augustana seemed to help Iowa get focused. Maybe the coaches get an attention bump this weekend.
Pride is a powerful motivator. I don't expect a win, but a competitive game would be nice
We are Warriors. We always expect a W!
Quote from: Benny B on November 20, 2015, 08:32:15 PM
The team that played against IUPUI and Iowa certainly won't. The team that played Belmont has a pretty decent chance.
This
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 20, 2015, 09:35:14 PM
We are Warriors. We always expect a W!
And this
Ben Simmons.
Take the LSU line and run to Vegas.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 20, 2015, 09:35:14 PM
We are Warriors. We always expect a W!
Absolutely...call me delusional but I FULLY expect a win
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 21, 2015, 12:03:03 AM
Ben Simmons.
Take the LSU line and run to Vegas.
This. The team that played Belmont lost at home. LSU is a good team and we are not, yet.
Loss by 20. And not that close.
I like to try to look at things even handed. With almost the exact same level of experience as LSU, that at least should not be an excuse for everybody. 3 days rest. That should be no excuse. They have now played some pretty decent teams. That should be no excuse. No reason MU should not at least be very competitive. On the other hand, there is no way we can EXPECT a win. But they should at least be within 10 points.
Pressure is on. Two plus seasons of horrible ball has the natives restless. Aside from recruiting class I have seen little to be excited about in a long time. Not jumping ship but losing interest quickly.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 21, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
This. The team that played Belmont lost at home. LSU is a good team and we are not, yet.
Is LSU a good "team"...? They have yet to be tested with easy wins over McNeese St, Kennesaw St. and South Alabama. IUPUI is better than any of these teams.
Quote from: Nukem2 on November 21, 2015, 10:20:08 AM
Is LSU a good "team"...? They have yet to be tested with easy wins over McNeese St, Kennesaw St. and South Alabama. IUPUI is better than any of these teams.
This is why it's a significant measuring stick. All of the reasons we haven't been successful the first 3 games are moot for this game. This is a good assessment for two things, our talent and our coaching. If we get blown out, at least one of those two things (if not both) are severely lacking
LSU's top three players in terms of minutes are all true freshmen. I don't expect a win right now, but I do think we'll be far more competitive than we saw on Thursday. I think this is a big statement game for the players and the coaches. If we are going to bounce back, this is the time. I think it'll be a good game.
Quote from: CoachEllensonsCorner on November 21, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
I like to try to look at things even handed. With almost the exact same level of experience as LSU, that at least should not be an excuse for everybody. 3 days rest. That should be no excuse. They have now played some pretty decent teams. That should be no excuse. No reason MU should not at least be very competitive. On the other hand, there is no way we can EXPECT a win. But they should at least be within 10 points.
How about talent difference? Ben Simmons vs anyone on our roster. There's a big difference there.
Belmont is down by 10 at the half today.......to Evansville.
Quote from: MuMark on November 21, 2015, 01:36:54 PM
Belmont is down by 10 at the half today.......to Evansville.
So? Evansville is ranked #65 in Pomeroy, they are at home, their top-6 players in terms of minutes are all juniors and seniors, and they were picked to finish second in the MVC behind only Wichita State. They were also -6.5 favorites in this game. Not really surprising, and not like Belmont is playing a bad team.
I had a 1-4 start in my preseason prediction, I'm sticking with it. I just want to see the team come out and compete hard. I want to see effort on loose balls. I want to see fire. I want to see defensive intensity. I want to see offensive sets run, versus just firing up the first available 3.
My measuring stick for the LSU game is to see if we play hard every second of every possession. That is something we can build off going forward irrespective of whether we win or lose.
I'll hit up Ben Simmons and tell him to go easy on us Monday night.
I don't need a win to be happy. Thursday reset my expectations to being satisfied with a competitive game. It the team plays hard, that will be a huge step forward.
Quote from: mu03eng on November 20, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
For the record, I'm in the frustrated/something has to change but still believe in Wojo camp. Having said that, Monday's match up will be very telling.
The only thing we're really hanging our hat on at this point is how young this team is. Well according to KenPom, Marquette is 329 in the country at experience(0.89 yrs). LSU is .......328(0.9 yrs). So experience should not matter at all for Monday. We'll found out if we have a coaching or talent gap (or both).
Very interested to see how things go.
You may be right, but the first 3 games were already good measuring sticks. And right now, we measure pretty...short.
I look forward to our improving game by game: coached and players
Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
I had a 1-4 start in my preseason prediction, I'm sticking with it.
You made preseason predictions? Hadn't heard.
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 22, 2015, 02:06:31 PM
You made preseason predictions? Hadn't heard.
Well played.
Quote from: The Lens on November 21, 2015, 03:39:26 PM
I don't need a win to be happy. Thursday reset my expectations to being satisfied with a competitive game. It the team plays hard, that will be a huge step forward.
Don't disagree Lens, but how sad is it that Marquette hopes/expectations against an unranked opponent on a neutral court are that we "try hard"? But maybe our fans who are squirmy with "expect victory" or "just win, baby" will be more comfortable with "try hard most of the time" as our new mantra.
I knew you'd say that.
Quote from: Goose on November 21, 2015, 10:02:44 AM
Pressure is on. Two plus seasons of horrible ball has the natives restless. Aside from recruiting class I have seen little to be excited about in a long time. Not jumping ship but losing interest quickly.
We'll miss you.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2015, 06:23:38 PM
Don't disagree Lens, but how sad is it that Marquette hopes/expectations against an unranked opponent on a neutral court are that we "try hard"? But maybe our fans who are squirmy with "expect victory" or "just win, baby" will be more comfortable with "try hard most of the time" as our new mantra.
Maybe if we don't make The Dance or the NIT we can get Participation awards.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2015, 06:23:38 PM
Don't disagree Lens, but how sad is it that Marquette hopes/expectations against an unranked opponent on a neutral court are that we "try hard"? But maybe our fans who are squirmy with "expect victory" or "just win, baby" will be more comfortable with "try hard most of the time" as our new mantra.
First things first, if we don't try hard we will never win.
Fundamentals like rebounds and stopping turnovers have to come before we can even think about winning and time clock management by the coaches.