1. Age, experience, execution over youth and energy.
2. MU had streaks when they got 3 happy. Can't have it.
3. Defense was just sloppy and weak.
4. Henry is the real deal. Just maybe. But the call at the end was the right one.
5. Apparently emphasizing and practicing free throws doesn't always pay off.
6. Freshmen act like freshmen sometimes.
7. Roller coaster. Game of runs. Pick your cliché.
8. Duane has to make a better decision with the ball, up 1, Belmont disorganized. Worst possible choice.
9. There is talent. This team will get better. But we can put away the rainbows/unicorns/bubbles of the Italy trip. This is a young team with a lot of growing to do.
10. Going back to the preseason picks, I am officially 1-0.
Good call Tower
We play young, which is expected. Not surprised at the loss at all. Defense, needs a lot of work. Decision making, the same. Energy good, team will be fun to watch. Basketball IQ, I hope is due to inexperience and will improve.
11. Disappointed not to see a few minutes from Wally. I was hoping he would add maturity for brief stretches.
12. Haanif > Traci
13. Need the ball in Duane's hands in tight spots
14. Badgers lost to a directional school
When we're "on the bubble", this will be viewed as a "good loss".
thought wojo could have put the freshmen in better situations to end the game. ellenson in the post would have been better than ellenson at the top of the key. he must feel comfortable with tracy's handle, but...
duane couldn't hit from outside...thought luke continues to look too weak down low at times...no fire in him.
80 points should win you most games. If they played any D.....at all?
Tower is the best. Agree on all counts. Tough loss, but Belmont is an excellent team. Very youthful mistakes on our part. We have some studs.
Too many poor decisions, really expected better from D Wilson. Missed too many easy shots. Need to improve D, although it felt like it improved during second half.
The decision by D Wil to shoot that 3 with south time on the shot clock was horrible and turned the game Belmonts way. But I still don't like Wojo's coaching in close games - we never win them under him so far.
Long time listener - first time caller.
Past: Belmont makes a lot of shots. We don't
Future: Other teams make a lot of shots. We better.
Who changed D. Wilson's shot? Elbow way underneath vs. Italy tour and last year.
Worship Wojo but even the announcer in the first half said Belmont can't guard H.E. one-on-one but we did not go to him. Al always said "give it to the shooter"
H.E. has a long way to go to be the 6th pick in the NBA
Cheatham ... Awesome.
One more thing...didn't see much of Cohen in the 2nd half. Was I missing something?
Was expecting a loss tonight. Belmont and LSU are two toughest non con games on the schedule. Still looked like Henry got undercut on that late drive from my angle. Oh well, my hope was 11-2 outside Big East play, so not disastrous.
Fun team to watch, a lot of energy and clear talent out there. But a lot of freshman mistakes and too many missed free throws. Ellenson was as billed and encouraged by sandy, thought he looked good. Some disappointments;
1. Fischer needs to go up strong, still fades. Poor defense, step slow and got burned far too often on pick and rolls.
2. Cheatham seemed a step slow on defense.
3. Duane needs to make a better decision than take that 3 when up 1 and Belmont down a player. Can't happen.
But we played a quality opponent and would have won if we made our free throws and made some of the easy ones that just rimmed out. Arrows pointing up but easy to see Henry as 1 and done.
Also, hard to win with freshman point guards.
With that roster, there's no way Buzz loses that game.
Quote from: hdog1017 on November 13, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
With that roster, there's no way Buzz loses that game.
Buzz couldn't get that roster as Henry was never going to play for Buzz.
Overall, thought refs did a good job. I thought they missed some in first half, but can't really complain. Definite charge on Henry at the end.
While Belmont is good, hard not to feel we should have won this one.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on November 13, 2015, 10:20:16 PM
Also, hard to win with freshman point guards.
Most important point
Quote from: Norm on November 13, 2015, 10:17:09 PM
The decision by D Wil to shoot that 3 with south time on the shot clock was horrible and turned the game Belmonts way. But I still don't like Wojo's coaching in close games - we never win them under him so far.
We've never won them because our team was awful last year
Replace Henry Ellenson with Matt Carlino and our late game offense looks exactly the same. The offense looks better when it's being ran in a concept, so why switch away from it when it matters?
When the best play from a front court player comes from Belmont despite the huge size advantage it's a bad sign. If Henry and Luke are going to pad their stats it's in games like these.
Thought Wojo got outmaneuvered throughout the game.
Thought Johnson and Cohen looked both much stronger and more confident. Anim's play was a bright spot. I think Cheatham has promise but Carter is going to be really good when he get's the college game under his belt. Carter and Anim remind me of the old (read hardnose, gritty, and more entertaining) Big East.
Somebody needs to sanitize the equipment because the 'Derrick'is still hanging around with all the missed lay ups and free throws.
Dare I say we could have used some Taylor Jr. today?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2015, 10:27:10 PM
Buzz couldn't get that roster as Henry was never going to play for Buzz.
True, but it's a good question.
Does MU win that game with that roster if Buzz is the coach?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2015, 10:27:10 PM
Buzz couldn't get that roster as Henry was never going to play for Buzz.
That's true Chicos, but that doesn't make his statement any less valid.
I only listened to Homer and Mac, but I had the impression that Duane wasn't as prominent towards the end as I think he should've been. Yea, he hit the big 3 (but then took an overly-ambitious one) and he took the last shot, but it seemed like he was deferring to others (esp. Henry) perhaps more than he should've. For example, where was Duane when Traci brought the ball up and lost it off his leg? Of course, this is simply hindsight looking at the disappointing errors by the freshmen down the stretch.
Biggest criticisms were some poor defense throughout and a godawful decision by Duane on the 3-pointer attempt with us 5-on-4 because their guy had a cramp. It would have been fine had he been "feelin' it," but he struggled all night. Just have to get a better shot than that up 1 with them in trouble.
Otherwise, I'm not especially surprised. I hosted three fellow Warriors and I told them all beforehand that this was no cupcake.
Thankfully, the beer was cold.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 13, 2015, 10:31:55 PM
Most important point
Which is my biggest concern for the entire year. It's a guards game.
Quote from: Warriorfish on November 13, 2015, 10:33:10 PM
True, but it's a good question.
Does MU win that game with that roster if Buzz is the coach?
Don't know and don't care.
Good effort by a young team.
In addition what has already been mentioned, Sacar will be really good.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2015, 10:39:22 PM
Don't know and don't care.
I think that's juvenile. Many here thought Wojo's in game coaching was an area needing improvement from last season. While Buzz may have been classless, he coached a pretty good game inside of the two twenty minute halves.
We should be looking for improvements from the young coaching staff as much as from the returning players.
Quote from: mattyv1908 on November 13, 2015, 10:45:34 PM
I think that's juvenile. Many here thought Wojo's in game coaching was an area needing improvement from last season. While Buzz may have been classless, he coached a pretty good game inside of the two twenty minute halves.
We should be looking for improvements from the young coaching staff as much as from the returning players.
Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.
Second, Buzz didn't like playing freshmen, so knowing this I'd love to know who he would have played today.
Third, Buzz lost a few games to some teams of less quality than this Belmont team.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.
Second, Buzz didn't like playing freshmen, so knowing this I'd love to know who he would have played today.
Third, Buzz lost a few games to some teams of less quality than this Belmont team.
Agree with all of this, Chicos.
It's silliness. Nobody can "prove" anything with these hypotheticals. Not worth the time thinking about.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2015, 10:27:10 PM
Buzz couldn't get that roster as Henry was never going to play for Buzz.
Of courser Buzz couldn't and wouldn't get THAT roster. Every coach gets his own unique roster. But Buzz would have beaten this team pretty easily with 5 of the 6 rosters he did get and #6 probably wins a close one at the Bradley Center.
I have high hopes for Wojo's as a coach but he's a ways away.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.
Second, Buzz didn't like playing freshmen, so knowing this I'd love to know who he would have played today.
Third, Buzz lost a few games to some teams of less quality than this Belmont team.
I haven't checked the box score, but from the radio it sure sounded like the freshman all got quite a bit of playing time.
And so a silver lining in this crappy loss is that if this minutes distribution keeps up, we should have a pretty deep bench (by experience) come BE Tourney time.
A lot of freshman/young mistakes throughout the game. Things will improve on that regard.
Overall the team was much more fun to watch then previous years
Another thought is that our execution at the end (last 3 min or so) of each half was weak. In the first half, it was the defense that fell apart, while in the second half, it was the offense that felt the pressure and fell apart. With a young and inexperienced team, any takeaways from that?
Quote from: mattyv1908 on November 13, 2015, 10:45:34 PM
I think that's juvenile. Many here thought Wojo's in game coaching was an area needing improvement from last season. While Buzz may have been classless, he coached a pretty good game inside of the two twenty minute halves.
We should be looking for improvements from the young coaching staff as much as from the returning players.
So I take it that you would still take the trade of Wojo and three scholarships for Ed Cooley?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 13, 2015, 10:51:11 PM
Of course couldn't and wouldn't get THAT roster. Every coach gets his own unique roster. But Buzz would have beaten this team pretty easily with 5 of the 6 rosters he did get and #6 probably wins a close one at the Bradley Center.
I have high hopes for Wojo's as a coach but he's a ways away.
Well said.
I don't think anybody is wanting Buzz back, but using him as a barometer for in-game coaching is hardly something to take offense over. Lavin is/was a fantastic recruiter but nobody on this board hesitated one second in pointing out his coaching deficiencies.
Ellenson obviously has talent and he was very good offensively much of the night. Still, he missed way more than he made, he bricked two important FTs, he committed an obvious charging foul when we desperately needed a bucket, etc.
I'm still going glass half-full here, though. He definitely has the look of a stud. He's probably relieved to get the first game out of the way and, by all accounts, he's smart enough to learn from this.
Still excited about Henry and our Warriors overall. Just gotta play better team and individual defense, win more of the 50-50 battles and make some better decisions.
Quote from: Eldon on November 13, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
So I take it that you would still take the trade of Wojo and three scholarships for Ed Cooley?
Cooley's a much better coach at this stage of the game.
Duane's gotta pass that over to Henry at the end of the game. He was sitting there wide open and could have set and popped.
Quote from: MU82 on November 13, 2015, 10:55:34 PM
Ellenson obviously has talent and he was very good offensively much of the night. Still, he missed way more than he made, he bricked two important FTs, he committed an obvious charging foul when we desperately needed a bucket, etc.
I'm still going glass half-full here, though. He definitely has the look of a stud. He's probably relieved to get the first game out of the way and, by all accounts, he's smart enough to learn from this.
Still excited about Henry and our Warriors overall. Just gotta play better team and individual defense, win more of the 50-50 battles and make some better decisions.
Spot on. And it's only one game. And he went for 21 and 16. He's a solid player and will be important this season, and has a great future ahead of him. But he's also a freshman.
Wow. Exciting game in which a very talented, frosh-laden team fights back a couple of times against a solid opponent, then loses on a few mistakes at the end...and we're debating Wojo vs Buzz vs Cooley?
Quote from: mattyv1908 on November 13, 2015, 10:54:54 PM
Well said.
I don't think anybody is wanting Buzz back, but using him as a barometer for in-game coaching is hardly something to take offense over. Lavin is/was a fantastic recruiter but nobody on this board hesitated one second in pointing out his coaching deficiencies.
I'm not taking issue with it, I just don't get the point of the entire post. Buzz isn't our coach, and since we don't want him back, why does it matter? I guess you could have used 355 other coaches as options.
To me, it looked like a young team playing young, against a more seasoned team that was disciplined. I'll trade the youth and long term upside over the short term loss.
Hopefully it all works out, but I picked this team for NIT. I don't expect NCAA because of our guards. I will be pleasantly surprised if we make it. My valuation of Wojo will continue like anyone else's, but I am of the firm belief you give a coach a chance to have a full recruiting class cycle through. Long long long way to go.
The positive? Cohen and JaJuan relative to expectations. We shot 23% from 3 and had every chance to pull this game out. Duane won't go 1-8 every game from three. Cheatham and Ellenson look like players.
Negatives? No minutes from Wally in a close game. We shot 23% percent from 3, need big improvements. Defense on Belmont pick and rolls. Basic stuff, guys were getting lost. A loss is a loss.
Overall, I'm not too discouraged. Need to improve, but the talent is there to do so. If we pull this game out by 1 point this board has an entirely different tone. It sucks to be 0-1, but we will be far better than last year.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.
So Luke, Duane, JJJ and Sandy wanted something to do with Buzz - in fact they came to Marquette because of him.
I don't think there's any evidence that Buzz cared about recruiting Traci, Hanif or Sacar..
Held the and Wally aren't key players.
That leaves Henry. Even if you're right about him (no evidence) it's a far cry from several.
Henry needs to learn how to make players around him better. Otherwise he is just another me first stay guy. I think he will have trouble against athletic opponents .
Wojo =good recruiter /weak game coach
Don't know how long patience for that will be
More Haanif less Traci
Duane needs to be more of a leader
I'm just saying, we don't lose that game with Coach Krzyzewski or Calipari or Rick Pitino....
Would you guys quit whining about the hillbilly. He's gone and good riddance.
The going got tough and the Hillbilly got going... out
Since I am on an airplane, I saw only the stat sheet, but it appears. we lost this game in the first half. Way too many threes made against us. We play better D, we win this game.
We have freshmen. Which is why we lost to a bible college. I still think we're darn good but we have growing to do.
Quote from: fjm on November 13, 2015, 11:10:04 PM
I'm just saying, we don't lose that game with Coach Krzyzewski or Calipari or Rick Pitino....
Does Bo lose that game with that roster?
Quote from: mattyv1908 on November 13, 2015, 11:14:48 PM
Does Bo lose that game with that roster?
There is NO WAY that Bo loses this game with this roster! And no way Chip Kelly or Greg Popovivch lose this game with this roster!
I'm sure some of you guys love how you look in Virginia tech shirts, but the past is over so stop being dbags..
The way I see it, you can complain about Wojos coaching, but I disagree... We lost because of a bad D Will shot, 2 missed FRESHMAN HE free throws, and an out of control over excited FRESHMAN play by the PG. this crap is going to happen this year, they are freshman... If that upsets you, tune into the Va tech or Wisconsin games.
Oh, yeah........
11. Turns out the rule change that impacted tonight's game the most was fewer timeouts. Pretty sure that if Wojo would have liked another one in the last minute.
The talent is there and we should make the tournament. This is where my evaluation of Wojo starts. He should be able to figure out the pieces and get them there. It's going to be on him if we miss. I'm hopeful but it's still an unknown in my mind.
You've got to like the team's heart, coming back twice in the second half from double digit deficits. I thought we had it when we we're up 1 with the ball. But then the lack of experience kicked in. There is no one you can give the ball to and say "close it out for us".
All of this said I think the critical point was when we were up by 4 in the first half and totally booted the last 5 minutes. That's when a good home team keeps the opposition down and finishes with an 8 or 9 point half time lead.
Too many missed layups, too many missed free throws.
Boy it would have been nice to pull this one out.
12. We shot it 65 times. Luke shot it 6 times. With Henry in the game teams can't double Luke. He HAS to assert himself and be more involved offensively.
13. Henry was a beast but he's at best a mediocre 3 point shooter. He's virtually unstoppable down low but does the other team a favor when he plays on the perimeter or launches 3s.
14. JJJ looked solid. 5-7 on 2 pointers, 0-3 on 3s. He's a very bad 3 point shooter yet he continues to launch.
15. We couldn't play man to man last year but Wojo stole some games with a pretty decent zone. Another defensive effort like this one and it may be time to bring it back.
Quote from: tower912 on November 13, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
1. Age, experience, execution over youth and energy.
2. MU had streaks when they got 3 happy. Can't have it.
3. Defense was just sloppy and weak.
4. Henry is the real deal. Just maybe. But the call at the end was the right one.
5. Apparently emphasizing and practicing free throws doesn't always pay off.
6. Freshmen act like freshmen sometimes.
7. Roller coaster. Game of runs. Pick your cliché.
8. Duane has to make a better decision with the ball, up 1, Belmont disorganized. Worst possible choice.
9. There is talent. This team will get better. But we can put away the rainbows/unicorns/bubbles of the Italy trip. This is a young team with a lot of growing to do.
10. Going back to the preseason picks, I am officially 1-0.
1. Always look forward to your analysis - 1st thing I look for after the game.
2. #1 and #6 are spot on. 4 huge mistakes in the last minute or so - all by freshmen. 2 by HE (2 missed FTs and offensive foul) and two by Carter )foul away from basket and big TO near the end).
3. In a close game, the team with the best player on the floor usually wins. The skinny white dude from Belmont was clearly the best player on the court tonight.
4. This team has some fight in them. Twice they were down big in the 2nd half and came back to get leads. They ARE going to get better the more they play together.
5. Wojo trusts Carter already. He was in with the game on the line.
1. Good loss against a good team. Although I was hopeful at the end and a bit disappointed as a result, still have to feel confident about the program after that performance.
2. I felt like especially through the first 25-30 mins of the game, a lot of balls just didn't bounce our way--layups just rimming out, long rebounds coming straight back to their shooters, their shooter nailing some circus shot threes in the beginning (including the bank shot), deflections that just got knocked out of bounds giving the ball right back to them. If a few of those plays go the other way, I think the crowd and momentum would have been very different. As it was, it felt like we were often knocking at the door, but couldn't quite get through it and gain any sort of rhythm.
3. Didn't love the hand check foul on Carter at the end--not disputing the call itself, but a bit surprised to see that sort of call at the end of a game when a team is down 1 with the double bonus on a play 30 feet from the basket. Gave 'em the lead.
4. While this W would have been nice from a tourney resume perspective, it gives me a lot of hope that we'll win some games against good teams this year once Wojo calms the frosh down.
Cringed when Duane launched his ill advised three when it was 5 on 4. That was poor judgement on his part. We get an easy 2 there and it was game over.
All the ding bats bagging Wojo after 1 game are morons. There are 5 freshmen on this team. I bet this team looks a lot different in March.
The one aspect of the coaching I was a little disappointed in was how far they extended the man defense. Pushing out to 25 feet played right into Belmont's hands. Spread MU out to the point where they could barely keep up.
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 14, 2015, 02:31:33 AM
The one aspect of the coaching I was a little disappointed in was how far they extended the man defense. Pushing out to 25 feet played right into Belmont's hands. Spread MU out to the point where they could barely keep up.
They were defending that far out because Belmont was scoring that far out.
http://jsonline.sportsdirectinc.com/basketball/ncaab-boxscores.aspx?page=/data/NCAAB/results/2015-2016/boxscore902690.html
Box score.
If MU makes their layups, MU wins.
Quote from: tower912 on November 14, 2015, 05:37:05 AM
If MU makes their layups, MU wins.
I thought that especially about some of Luke's chances. So many missed shots on fouls that should have been and-ones. Need him to finish those around the rim.
That said, our three shooting was rather ugly, outside of Sandy. Guys not named Cohen were 3-21 behind the arc. Further, way too many of those threes were taken when we had no one established in the paint. Long rebound opportunities coupled with guys not in position to get those rebounds led to a lot of shots that were effectively turnovers.
Henry got worked on D
With 5:27 to go in the 1st half, future Hall of Famer Evan Bradds gets his first of his unguarded 24 points to put Belmont in the lead 33-31. He then scores ten more points to put Belmont up 47-41 at half. I see a lot of comments here about MU's offense but this team is horrid on defense right now.
I am surprised no one has mentioned this in any of the threads.
The marketing folks must have been reading Scoop. They had the giant soccer-type banner roll out over the students! It was very cool. I tried to get a picture of it, but it was too dark in the arena.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 13, 2015, 10:45:30 PM
Good effort by a young team.
In addition what has already been mentioned, Sacar will be really good.
Looking forward to Sacar getting more minutes so he can display his offensive scoring.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 14, 2015, 08:10:35 AM
With 5:27 to go in the 1st half, future Hall of Famer Evan Bradds gets his first of his unguarded 24 points to put Belmont in the lead 33-31. He then scores ten more points to put Belmont up 47-41 at half. I see a lot of comments here about MU's offense but this team is horrid on defense right now.
This. For people that think Cheatham should play over Carter, Carter was the one perimeter defender who wasn't getting beat by a cross over drive to the basket. How many slip screen lay ups did they have, 5? 6? How many times did our defensive rotations result in a TRIPLE team of someone while shooters were wide open on the weak side? And as MUfan12 said earlier, is there a need to pressure guard people 25 feet from the basket? 14 of their 23 assists came from guys that shot 1 for 5 from 3s. Granted Bradshaw was 5 for 10. It's only one game, but there are plenty of good Big East teams that will pick us apart like last night if things don't change.
Quote from: hdog1017 on November 13, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
With that roster, there's no way Buzz loses that game.
I do think Buzz is a much better coach than Wojo. However, with 25 seconds to go he would of done the same thing Wojo did. That is call a timeout and set up a play for Ellenson. In that situation I believe you should never call a timeout. You should have already practiced a play for the final shot. Calling timeout allows the other team to set their defense and any coach worth his salt is going to tell his defensive team the ball is going to Ellenson. Wojo played right into Belmont's coaches defensive plan.
Quote from: tower912 on November 14, 2015, 05:18:38 AM
They were defending that far out because Belmont was scoring that far out.
Give them that shot. If Bradshaw wants to take 28 footers all night, so be it. Better than Bradds getting layups on poorly guarded pick and rolls.
What Wojo did different than Buzz, was take the time out at 25 seconds remaining, where Buzz would wait until 10 seconds. Buzz's 10 seconds often seemed to leave the team scrambling when plan A failed (Derrick Wilson from 3....). Having a bit more time allows for plan B.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 13, 2015, 11:41:16 PM
12. We shot it 65 times. Luke shot it 6 times. With Henry in the game teams can't double Luke. He HAS to assert himself and be more involved offensively.
13. Henry was a beast but he's at best a mediocre 3 point shooter. He's virtually unstoppable down low but does the other team a favor when he plays on the perimeter or launches 3s.
14. JJJ looked solid. 5-7 on 2 pointers, 0-3 on 3s. He's a very bad 3 point shooter yet he continues to launch.
15. We couldn't play man to man last year but Wojo stole some games with a pretty decent zone. Another defensive effort like this one and it may be time to bring it back.
Fischer actually shot more than six times. A missed shot is not counted, if you are fouled. I did feel that Ellenson was not being used properly, especially in the first half. Maybe it was because Wojo promised him in recruiting that he could play all ove the floor.
Quote from: gepsguys on November 13, 2015, 10:15:15 PM
80 points should win you most games. If they played any D.....at all?
I am not sure about this. I thought the 30 second clock would be an issue. However, since you cannot hand check, the offense has a much greater advantage so the 30 second clock is rarely an issue.
1. PGs are incomplete. Carter was better defensively and looks like a PG. Cheatham has a nice first step, but kind of looked like a guy who didn't play point in high school.
2. This team still can't shoot from the outside.
3. Defense was bad, but that was a difficult team to defend. Shooters all over the place, and they were running NBA type sets with pick-n-rolls, screens, etc. I expect that they will get much better.
4. Henry played at times like a freshman, but he is the best big man I have seen in a Marquette uniform since...maybe McIlvaine? And Mac never had an offensive game like that. He is going to be *really* good.
5. Sacar should have played more. That dude can defend. Seemed like he was on the floor when MU was making its runs.
6. I thought Wally's experience and athleticism could have helped. Surprised he saw no time.
7. I was skeptical that the new emphasis on fouls would create more offense. But that was a great college basketball game. I thought Wojo did a decent job preparing his players for the new rules.
Those Euro teams were hot garbage
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 14, 2015, 08:10:35 AM
With 5:27 to go in the 1st half, future Hall of Famer Evan Bradds gets his first of his unguarded 24 points to put Belmont in the lead 33-31. He then scores ten more points to put Belmont up 47-41 at half. I see a lot of comments here about MU's offense but this team is horrid on defense right now.
+1
Belmont is a future 12 seed that is going to blow up some 5 seed.
Quote from: warriorchick on November 14, 2015, 08:11:39 AM
I am surprised no one has mentioned this in any of the threads.
The marketing folks must have been reading Scoop. They had the giant soccer-type banner roll out over the students! It was very cool. I tried to get a picture of it, but it was too dark in the arena.
They also dropped the "best student section in the country" during intros, which is an improvement.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 14, 2015, 08:10:35 AM
With 5:27 to go in the 1st half, future Hall of Famer Evan Bradds gets his first of his unguarded 24 points to p accented. Belmont in the lead 33-31. He then scores ten more points to put Belmont up 47-41 at half. I see a lot of comments here about MU's offense but this team is horrid on defense right now.
This is very confounding. This game and last year we saw lots of poor defensive play by MU. Yet we have a coach who came out of Duke, where defense has always been has always been accented. Wojo was a Defensive guru, was he not? We are not seeing that so far in his coaching.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 14, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
This is very confounding. This game and last year we saw lots of poor defensive play by MU. Yet we have a coach who came out of Duke, where defense has always been has always been accented. Wojo was a Defensive guru, was he not? We are not seeing that so far in his coaching.
I suspect they haven't installed the defense yet.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 14, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
This is very confounding. This game and last year we saw lots of poor defensive play by MU. Yet we have a coach who came out of Duke, where defense has always been has always been accented. Wojo was a Defensive guru, was he not? We are not seeing that so far in his coaching.
Didn't we have like the 2nd or 3rd best defense in the Big East last year?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 14, 2015, 08:10:35 AM
this team is horrid on defense right now.
Correct. That is why we lost.
I have been impressed with all the freshmen actually. They need a lot of seasoning, but you can see they have "it". Amin may be a starter after not too soon as he is so fundamentally sound, especially on defense. He makes plays.
Also, JJJ and Sandy have improved significantly.
Duane and Luke haven't shown much yet compared to preseason expectations. I said this before, but Wojo needs to establish Luke low early in both halves.
On the defensive end, after 1+ seasons, I think Wojo needs to rethink his man defense. The reason I think this is Luke. He doesn't have the footspeed for rotations or on switches, IMO, and is a more effective defender in the zone.
Was really impressed with the runs back. That took moxie. Belmont is a very good team and is extremely well-coached. Byrd really took advantage of situational mismatches. Wojo did push the war of attrition but MU didn't capitalize.
I do think Wojo needs to pick a point guard, though. Carter looks like the natural one to me.
It was a great game offensively. There were many first halves last year where I got leg cramps standing in wait for MU to score its first basket. I think at the five minute mark, MU had a 2014-15 first half of points.
Quote from: hdog1017 on November 13, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
With that roster, there's no way Buzz loses that game.
The same buzz that lost to Alabama state?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 13, 2015, 11:41:16 PM
13. Henry was a beast but he's at best a mediocre 3 point shooter. He's virtually unstoppable down low but does the other team a favor when he plays on the perimeter or launches 3s.
I said almost this exact same thing as I watched the game with Mrs. MU82 and two MU buddies.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 14, 2015, 02:59:13 PM
I have been impressed with all the freshmen actually. They need a lot of seasoning, but you can see they have "it". Amin may be a starter after not too soon as he is so fundamentally sound, especially on defense. He makes plays.
Also, JJJ and Sandy have improved significantly.
Duane and Luke haven't shown much yet compared to preseason expectations. I said this before, but Wojo needs to establish Luke low early in both halves.
On the defensive end, after 1+ seasons, I think Wojo needs to rethink his man defense. The reason I think this is Luke. He doesn't have the footspeed for rotations or on switches, IMO, and is a more effective defender in the zone.
Was really impressed with the runs back. That took moxie. Belmont is a very good team and is extremely well-coached. Byrd really took advantage of situational mismatches. Wojo did push the war of attrition but MU didn't capitalize.
I do think Wojo needs to pick a point guard, though. Carter looks like the natural one to me.
It was a great game offensively. There were many first halves last year where I got leg cramps standing in wait for MU to score its first basket. I think at the five minute mark, MU had a 2014-15 first half of points.
Good points.
On the PG thing I think the difficulty is that Carter is probably more natural but Cheatam is clearly the better player and more ready right now.
I think Cheatam and Sacar could be studs as upperclassmen.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on November 15, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
Good points.
On the PG thing I think the difficulty is that Carter is probably more natural but Cheatam is clearly the better player and more ready right now.
I think Cheatam and Sacar could be studs as upperclassmen.
Define clearly better? I don't think Cheatham is so much better than Traci where you can easily make the choice to start him.
Quote from: hdog1017 on November 13, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
With that roster, there's no way Buzz loses that game.
Not so sure about that, although Belmont is no Alabama St.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25374810/opening-weekend-upsets-continue-va-tech-falls-at-home-to-swac-school (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25374810/opening-weekend-upsets-continue-va-tech-falls-at-home-to-swac-school)
Quote from: bilsu on November 14, 2015, 09:14:01 AM
Fischer actually shot more than six times. A missed shot is not counted, if you are fouled. I did feel that Ellenson was not being used properly, especially in the first half. Maybe it was because Wojo promised him in recruiting that he could play all ove the floor.
This is true, but also part of the problem. Way too many issues for Luke finishing through contact. That was also an issue last year. I want to say there were four times he should have gone up strong and been able to get an and-one but instead came away with two shots at the line.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 15, 2015, 06:05:46 AM
This is true, but also part of the problem. Way too many issues for Luke finishing through contact. That was also an issue last year. I want to say there were four times he should have gone up strong and been able to get an and-one but instead came away with two shots at the line.
I think Luke came back to early from his shoulder. He didn't need to play in Italy.Should have given it another couple months.
The doctors cleared him.
I think he's simply not a "banger" type of center. He's slim and doesn't seem to hold muscle mass. He was the same way in high school and in two years of college ball.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on November 14, 2015, 01:37:45 PM
Didn't we have like the 2nd or 3rd best defense in the Big East last year?
6th in efficiency according to KenPom
Quote from: hdog1017 on November 13, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
With that roster, there's no way Buzz loses that game.
With Va Tech's roster, do you think Wojo loses that game to Alabama State at home?
Because Buzz's crew just did
http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/basketball/men/article_02f6e9ff-2176-51d2-bb4f-7b3ea773f325.html
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 15, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
With Va Tech's roster, do you think Wojo loses that game to Alabama State at home?
Yes
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 15, 2015, 08:25:48 AM
The doctors cleared him.
I think he's simply not a "banger" type of center. He's slim and doesn't seem to hold muscle mass. He was the same way in high school and in two years of college ball.
Who cares about doctors it should our decision period!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 15, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
With Va Tech's roster, do you think Wojo loses that game to Alabama State at home?
Because Buzz's crew just did
http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/basketball/men/article_02f6e9ff-2176-51d2-bb4f-7b3ea773f325.html
No. But if VT played them 9 more times, I bet they would win all 9. Same with most of the upsets this weekend.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 15, 2015, 01:32:13 AM
Define clearly better? I don't think Cheatham is so much better than Traci where you can easily make the choice to start him.
Traci has a nickname........Haniff does not. Case closed.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 15, 2015, 04:08:52 PM
No. But if VT played them 9 more times, I bet they would win all 9. Same with most of the upsets this weekend.
If only we could institute the best of 10 series
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 15, 2015, 05:26:18 PM
If only we could institute the best of 10 series
It would make the regular season less of a crapshoot
Quote from: We R Final Four on November 15, 2015, 05:24:16 PM
Traci has a nickname........Haniff does not. Case closed.
Maybe we can call him Dewey.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 15, 2015, 07:51:26 PM
It would make the regular season less of a crapshoot
Regular season isn't particularly a crapshoot. Home teams win 67% among all 350 DI schools. Only 15 schools out of 350 had losing records.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 15, 2015, 08:14:29 PM
Regular season isn't particularly a crapshoot. Home teams win 67% among all 350 DI schools. Only 15 schools out of 350 had losing records.
Didn't think teal was necessary
Quote from: MU82 on November 13, 2015, 10:37:16 PM
Biggest criticisms were some poor defense throughout and a godawful decision by Duane on the 3-pointer attempt ...
I don't think that was that bad of a shot to take. Obviously it turned out to be bad, but he could not have been more open and he took the shot in rhythym and we had rebounding position. That goes in and we are up 4 with 40 seconds to go. Unfortunately, he just launched a brick. I want our players to be confident and not afraid to take the big shot. It bodes well for the team moving forward.
In the end, as most everyone said, we lost because of a few poor possessions at crunch time and because we lost track of Evan Bradds way too often. Young team, we'll get better.
Finally, that is a bad loss in the sense that we lost to a team that will at best be on the bubble if they don't win their conference tournament on our home floor. Those are games you'd really like to have in your back pocket come tournament selection time.
MU was up 1. They were playing 5-on-4, as a Belmont player was on the ground cramping up. Duane had shot poorly all night. If he pushes the ball into the paint, attacks the rim, he could have made the lay-up/ gotten fouled/ dished off to a big for a dunk. If he holds the ball and runs offense, against 4 defenders, he runs clock and probably gets an easy basket. And his rebounders have time to prepare for a shot, instead of fouling because they were out of position. The officials call time out so they can attend to the downed player. Wojo takes advantage of the time out and sets his strategy for this possession and what comes after. No, jacking the 3 was the worst decision he could have made.
Quote from: CTWarrior on November 16, 2015, 07:32:39 AM
I don't think that was that bad of a shot to take.
I respectfully disagree, my fellow Connecticutian.
Quote from: MU82 on November 16, 2015, 08:22:04 AM
I respectfully disagree, my fellow Connecticutian.
I wish I saw the game rather than follow the end of the game play-by-play on my phone so I can have an opinion with my fellow Nutmeggers.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 16, 2015, 09:14:33 AM
I wish I saw the game rather than follow the end of the game play-by-play on my phone so I can have an opinion with my fellow Nutmeggers.
I'm not a fellow nutmegger, but I have eaten at Frank Pepe's so I reserve the right to chime in.
From what Homer and Mac said, it was a stupid shot. I'll take their word for it.
Quote from: tower912 on November 16, 2015, 07:38:23 AM
If he pushes the ball into the paint, attacks the rim, he could have made the lay-up/ gotten fouled/ dished off to a big for a dunk. ...
He also could have dribbled off his foot, travelled, thrown away a bad pass or missed a lay-up or pull-up jumper. When something doesn't work out, it is easy to say he should have done something else. As I listened on the radio, I thought it was a bad idea, but watching it later on television, I completely understood why it made sense in the moment to Wilson. He was wide open and had a great look at the basket with rebounders underneath.
I understand just about no one will agree with me, especially because of how it played out, but I don't think it was an awful decision.
Quote from: CTWarrior on November 16, 2015, 09:31:06 AM
He also could have dribbled off his foot, travelled, thrown away a bad pass or missed a lay-up or pull-up jumper. When something doesn't work out, it is easy to say he should have done something else. As I listened on the radio, I thought it was a bad idea, but watching it later on television, I completely understood why it made sense in the moment to Wilson. He was wide open and had a great look at the basket with rebounders underneath.
I understand just about no one will agree with me, especially because of how it played out, but I don't think it was an awful decision.
I get your defense of him, but he should realize when he's having an off night. If he was red hot all game, then definitely take the shot but he wasn't he was shooting fairly poorly so a true leader would recognize that and figure out what's the smarter move.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 16, 2015, 09:34:50 AM
I get your defense of him, but he should realize when he's having an off night. If he was red hot all game, then definitely take the shot but he wasn't he was shooting fairly poorly so a true leader would recognize that and figure out what's the smarter move.
Nah man, I completely disagree with this.
He was indeed having an off-night, but if you got an open shot take it. A few minutes before his stupid shot, he nailed a three in the corner. When they passed to him and he spotted up I thought "nooooo don't shoot, youve been off all night.....<swish>.....yes! see, that's a leader right there"
The other shot was a bad one because he didn't plant his feet AND it was early in the shot clock. That corner three probably made him
too confident.
Quote from: CTWarrior on November 16, 2015, 09:31:06 AM
He also could have dribbled off his foot, travelled, thrown away a bad pass or missed a lay-up or pull-up jumper. When something doesn't work out, it is easy to say he should have done something else. As I listened on the radio, I thought it was a bad idea, but watching it later on television, I completely understood why it made sense in the moment to Wilson. He was wide open and had a great look at the basket with rebounders underneath.
I understand just about no one will agree with me, especially because of how it played out, but I don't think it was an awful decision.
If he makes the shot, it's a huge. If he misses, it leaves the door wide open for the opposition. Either way, it's a poor decision. If there's a 5-on-4, you need to attack. Had Duane pulled the ball out to run the clock, the refs likely would have blown the possession dead to allow Belmont to tend to the injured player. Even if that was the case, having possession, the lead and the ability to run the clock down to under 30 seconds is more valuable than the 5-on-4. In addition, he didn't catch the ball cleanly and in rhythm. It was a high-risk, medium-reward shot attempt. He'll learn from it.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 16, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
If he makes the shot, it's a huge. If he misses, it leaves the door wide open for the opposition. Either way, it's a poor decision. If there's a 5-on-4, you need to attack. Had Duane pulled the ball out to run the clock, the refs likely would have blown the possession dead to allow Belmont to tend to the injured player. Even if that was the case, having possession, the lead and the ability to run the clock down to under 30 seconds is more valuable than the 5-on-4. In addition, he didn't catch the ball cleanly and in rhythm. It was a high-risk, medium-reward shot attempt. He'll learn from it.
That's much what Wojo said on the post-game show with Homer.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 16, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
Had Duane pulled the ball out to run the clock, the refs likely would have blown the possession dead to allow Belmont to tend to the injured player.
I'm pretty sure that is what he was thinking. He knew the guy was down but the refs won't stop a play that is already in motion. I'm pretty sure if we waits they blow the whistle and the advantage is lost, if he shoots and misses MU should have an advantage underneath and if we get the rebound they blow the whistle and we've got 30 more seconds. If he'd taken that shot 5 on 5 I agree its dumb but had it worked in this situation everybody would have been praising Duane for a heady play realizing the guy was down and pushing the ball.
Regardless that is not what cost us the game. Failure to rebound Duane's miss, the charge on Henry, and Traci's failure to understand what you can do in 8 seconds all hurt us more.
We took a number of ill advised shots. That was merely one of them. Didn't JJJ take a 3 from the corner with the shot clock off and about 12 seconds on the game clock just before halftime? To single one out as "game changing" is a little misguided IMO.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on November 16, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
I'm pretty sure that is what he was thinking. He knew the guy was down but the refs won't stop a play that is already in motion. I'm pretty sure if we waits they blow the whistle and the advantage is lost, if he shoots and misses MU should have an advantage underneath and if we get the rebound they blow the whistle and we've got 30 more seconds. If he'd taken that shot 5 on 5 I agree its dumb but had it worked in this situation everybody would have been praising Duane for a heady play realizing the guy was down and pushing the ball.
Regardless that is not what cost us the game. Failure to rebound Duane's miss, the charge on Henry, and Traci's failure to understand what you can do in 8 seconds all hurt us more.
It was a bad shot regardless. If he wanted to take advantage of the 5-on-4 then he should have attacked the basket.
To oversimplify, Marquette's inability to play help defense cost them the game.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 16, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
We took a number of ill advised shots. That was merely one of them. Didn't JJJ take a 3 from the corner with the shot clock off and about 12 seconds on the game clock just before halftime? To single one out as "game changing" is a little misguided IMO.
Thanks for reminding me about that. Ugh, that was a groan-worthy shot. It was 8 seconds left and they didn't score after, but they got a look at a three. Young team, lots of miscues. Honestly, it's just unfortunate we opened the season with a team like Belmont. We schedule 7 games against the absolute drek of cupcakes yet somehow manage to start the season with what is probably our toughest non-conference home game of the season (Iowa the only other consideration). For all the supposed effort that went into scheduling this season, it couldn't have set up much worse.
And I know this is a LC game, but this is not the type of team you want to start the season with when your schedule screams that you are terrified about having an inexperienced team.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 16, 2015, 12:23:03 PM
And I know this is a LC game, but this is not the type of team you want to start the season with when your schedule screams that you are terrified about having an inexperienced team.
What ya gonna do. The game was pre-set for MU as you note. Luck of the draw. Could have been Kennesaw State or So. Alabama..... In any event, Wojo probably learned a lot more about his team from playing Belmont than he will tonight playing yewie puey.
Quote from: Nukem2 on November 16, 2015, 12:33:38 PM
What ya gonna do. The game was pre-set for MU as you note. Luck of the draw. Could have been Kennesaw State or So. Alabama..... In any event, Wojo probably learned a lot more about his team from playing Belmont than he will tonight playing yewie puey.
Give the LC different dates. Play those games after the games in Brooklyn. That happens all the time. I don't know...one more schedule gripe I have in what felt like a trainwreck of non-conference scheduling. I'm still very glad we got Belmont, but had we played them after we got back from NYC, I think we may have seen a much different result. Why go to all the trouble of scheduling patsies to "teach a team how to win" or whatever the excuse was if you aren't going to frontload those teams on the schedule?
Sorry to be tardy to the party, but here are my thoughts (some of which, I'm sure, I'm duplicating others')
1. Bunk crowd. Seriously... what else was going on at 8:00 pm on a Friday night that we couldn't draw more butts to a game which was widely foretold that it would be more competitive (and entertaining) than half the conference games this year? And I'm not talking about the students here.
2. Henry's offense was solid, and he was dogging it on defense. He's ready for the NBA (snark to the NBA, not Henry). There were several situations where he showed no hustle - if any intent - on loose balls. He seemed focused on two things: shoot and rebound. Though, this is what happens to a lot of freshmen in their first game... sometimes the lights get the better of you the first night, so you concentrate on doing what you know and not looking stupid. This should be temporary and just a matter of time. I hope it's temporary and just a matter of time.
3. Luke's defense was equally horrid. In his defense, however, the problem was that after Chucky Chuckerson made those first four 3's, Belmont stretched their offense, and Luke had to come out to the perimeter to guard his man. But unlike Henry, it didn't appear to be a lack of effort... he was completely out of his element, and frankly, looked lost. These are the times I wish the triangle-and-two was universally taught.
4. Granted, nobody broke any ankles, but our guys were getting beat off the dribble all night. After Belmont's thirty-eleventh bunny in the first half, I began to tell myself it was merely to get the crowd hyped up for Slash's halftime performance.
5. Sandy is going to be good. Perhaps not "Jimmy Butler" good, but I can definitely see a future Scoop debate on whether he deserves the middle initial 'F'.
6. Why is our starting PG good enough to be in down 3 with seconds remaining but not good enough to be in down 1 with a few more seconds remaining?
7. Du Wil's 5-on-4 was - by conventional wisdom - the incorrect move if you're only trying to shave time off the clock. I'll leave it to the bama's and company to do the analysis, but in that situation, statistically, it should be the correct move... being up by single point under a minute to go with Belmont assured at least one more possession, and especially given the rebounding advantage - it is absolutely the right time to take a wide-open three. If you make it, you're up 4; if you miss, you have a good chance at an offensive rebound, in which case, you can reset, run the clock to under 15 seconds and take your shot. If you don't get the rebound, you still get the last possession to win/tie (assuming you defend the 3).
Philosophically, you have to ask yourself, "am I playing to win, or am I playing not to lose?"
8. IUPUI is all that matters right now.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 16, 2015, 12:38:39 PM
Give the LC different dates. Play those games after the games in Brooklyn. That happens all the time. I don't know...one more schedule gripe I have in what felt like a trainwreck of non-conference scheduling. I'm still very glad we got Belmont, but had we played them after we got back from NYC, I think we may have seen a much different result. Why go to all the trouble of scheduling patsies to "teach a team how to win" or whatever the excuse was if you aren't going to frontload those teams on the schedule?
Those games are played before the main event. And, it's not like MU has a lot of dates to work with and there is that Iowa game on Thursday. Not so sure that MU had much flexibility as to the LC games.
Quote from: Benny B on November 16, 2015, 12:58:32 PM
1. Bunk crowd. Seriously... what else was going on at 8:00 pm on a Friday night that we couldn't draw more butts to a game which was widely foretold that it would be more competitive (and entertaining) than half the conference games this year? And I'm not talking about the students here.
Yeah I was disappointed by the size of the crowd as well. But, those who did show up were pretty into it. Students upstairs were at their drunken best.
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 16, 2015, 01:27:18 PM
Yeah I was disappointed by the size of the crowd as well. But, those who did show up were pretty into it. Students upstairs were at their drunken best.
I actually thought the crowd was very respectable given that MU is coming off an ugly year and it was an early season game against a no-name school. It was roughly the same attendance as last season's opener.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 16, 2015, 01:33:24 PM
I actually thought the crowd was very respectable given that MU is coming off an ugly year and it was an early season game against a no-name school. It was roughly the same attendance as last season's opener.
Granted it's early, but this no-name school was a big-time opponent... the best we've seen in a season opener since 1997.
The casual fan doesn't know the difference between Belmont and Tennessee-Martin. Or at least doesn't care about the difference.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 16, 2015, 01:54:00 PM
The casual fan doesn't know the difference between Belmont and Tennessee-Martin. Or at least doesn't care about the difference.
Exactly.
If the opener was against IUPUI, attendance would have been about the same. If the opener was against Iowa, there would have been more bodies in the seats. If it was against Duke, the place would have been full.
Quote from: Nukem2 on November 16, 2015, 01:09:40 PM
Those games are played before the main event. And, it's not like MU has a lot of dates to work with and there is that Iowa game on Thursday. Not so sure that MU had much flexibility as to the LC games.
As I said, those games could have been played after Brooklyn. The last time the Legends Classic did it was just 2 years ago in 2013; Stanford played South Dakota State at home on December 1 as part of the Legends Classic, after returning from NYC.
I found an NBA WE formula and ran the numbers
Before the Wilson 3, 76.1% chance of winning
After the 3, 59.2% chance of winning
Other Scenarios:
Makes the 3: 93.8% chance
Does Nothing, literally shot clock violation with 27 seconds left: 60.9%
Take 2 seconds to drive to the basket and makes a lay up: 87.4 %
Also ran some other scenarios in the last minute:
Before the HE charge 37.2 %, after 16.4%
Before the Carter TO: 12.7%, after 3.3%
Quote from: MUDPT on November 16, 2015, 05:09:48 PM
I found an NBA WE formula and ran the numbers
Before the Wilson 3, 76.1% chance of winning
After the 3, 59.2% chance of winning
Other Scenarios:
Makes the 3: 93.8% chance
Does Nothing, literally shot clock violation with 27 seconds left: 60.9%
Take 2 seconds to drive to the basket and makes a lay up: 87.4 %
Also ran some other scenarios in the last minute:
Before the HE charge 37.2 %, after 16.4%
Before the Carter TO: 12.7%, after 3.3%
So the HE charge and the Carter TO were more costly, because after them our chances of winning were 16.4% and 3.3%
Quote from: MUDPT on November 16, 2015, 05:09:48 PM
I found an NBA WE formula and ran the numbers
Before the Wilson 3, 76.1% chance of winning
After the 3, 59.2% chance of winning
Other Scenarios:
Makes the 3: 93.8% chance
Does Nothing, literally shot clock violation with 27 seconds left: 60.9%
Take 2 seconds to drive to the basket and makes a lay up: 87.4 %
Also ran some other scenarios in the last minute:
Before the HE charge 37.2 %, after 16.4%
Before the Carter TO: 12.7%, after 3.3%
Does the NBA formula account for the fact that one team only has 4 players on the floor?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 13, 2015, 11:41:16 PM
12. We shot it 65 times. Luke shot it 6 times. With Henry in the game teams can't double Luke. He HAS to assert himself and be more involved offensively.
13. Henry was a beast but he's at best a mediocre 3 point shooter. He's virtually unstoppable down low but does the other team a favor when he plays on the perimeter or launches 3s.
14. JJJ looked solid. 5-7 on 2 pointers, 0-3 on 3s. He's a very bad 3 point shooter yet he continues to launch.
15. We couldn't play man to man last year but Wojo stole some games with a pretty decent zone. Another defensive effort like this one and it may be time to bring it back.
12. Got Luke a little more involved, still wish he would assert himself more.
13. I think he was 1-3 on 3s tonight - still like it better when he's closer to the basket.
14. JJJ 0-2 on 3s - one barely grazed the rim, one missed everything. If he wants to play his has to stop.
15. We were again horrid in our man to man. Thankfully Wojo broke out the zone tonight. Without it we lose.