Philly toughness = Physical D and heady passing
Hank is good. He got lost at times, but he's young. It will be hard to say goodbye in april.
If our guards could have played Big East type defense during the game, we would have been better off. However, I like that our guards can learn defense that appreciates the footwork more than the hands on game.
If we can secure a trip every 4 years...
-It may entice recruits
-It helps team chemistry/unity
-We may have a few more fans next time
Posted these in the game thread...added a few more here:
- Duane was a star today. Hopefully he can put together a season like this, he was a bit mercurial last season. We need him to be consistently good.
- Henry is a talent. The word for his offense is smooth. Needs to box out better, but he does a good job of controlling rebounds. Uses his arms well to secure the ball high.
- Traci Carter was very good, the bright spot for me. I liked the nickname the foreign announcer gave him, "The Engine". Feels apropos.
- Free throws were horrible. But improved as the game went on.
- The floor was awful. Seriously dangerous out there. Felt the game was slipping away in more ways than one before that late run.
- Hard to know how significant this is. Haukar looked competitive, but it seems like they're a mid-level Icelandic team. Not exactly a marquee league. Good for the team, but hard to say how good.
- Second half was much better. Marquette gave up a lot of back door cuts, second chances, and open threes early. Improved quite a bit later. After losing the first two quarters, they tied in the third and really dominated the last 5 minutes of the fourth.
- Sandy looks improved. Still starts his shot too low, but hit some threes, showed his strength, and was overall fairly effective.
- Fischer was solid. Yeoman's effort today. Him and Hank will be a load together.
- Of the bench players, Sacar Anim looks like he'll get early minutes, possibly ahead of JJJ and Wally. Had some freshman mistakes, but plays hard, decent defense, and lots of energy.
- JJJ was invisible. Wasn't out there much and didn't do much when he was. Seems like he's behind Cohen, Wally, and Anim.
- Speaking of Wally, he plays hard and his shot looks decent (even if it didn't fall). Seems like he'll be an asset off the bench. Not a great player, but serviceable and able to provide minutes.
- Wojo is in mid-season sideline form already, but needs to work on preserving that voice for the post-game interview.
Does the archiving of the game on YouTube happen immediately or does anybody have any idea when it may be available to view?
It will be hard to say goodbye to Henry and Duane in April.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 12, 2015, 03:47:59 PM
Does the archiving of the game on YouTube happen immediately or does anybody have any idea when it may be available to view?
It's available now. Link is on gomarquette.com (go to MBB schedule) or you can just go to YouTube and type in "Marquette Haukar" and it should come up.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 12, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
It's available now. Link is on gomarquette.com (go to MBB schedule) or you can just go to YouTube and type in "Marquette Haukar" and it should come up.
Thank you.
Quote from: bilsu on August 12, 2015, 03:52:45 PM
It will be hard to say goodbye to Henry and Duane in April.
Hopefully we will not have to.
I'm sure it was discussed in another thread already, but why didn't Cheatham play?
Quote from: bilsu on August 12, 2015, 03:52:45 PM
It will be hard to say goodbye to Henry and Duane in April.
Henry may go pro after one year. A 6'10" guy with his athleticism, offensive touch and ability to run the floor is a hot commodity.
Duane Wilson is a small NBA shooting guard. A dime a dozen. He needs to play the point to have any chance in the NBA, and he's not even playing it now.
Quote from: Bradley Brew on August 12, 2015, 03:59:02 PM
I'm sure it was discussed in another thread already, but why didn't Cheatham play?
Not cleared by the NCAA yet.
Quote from: bilsu on August 12, 2015, 03:52:45 PM
It will be hard to say goodbye to Henry and Duane in April.
Duane is transferring?
He's certainly not going to the NBA anytime soon. 6'1" SGs aren't exactly a hot commodity.
If he was 6'5" and played the way he does, he'd be a 1st rounder/lottery pick.
Edit: Sorry Sultan - didn't see your post.
Traci & Henry will improve our basketball IQ immensely. And they will both play big minutes.
Quote from: bilsu on August 12, 2015, 03:52:45 PM
It will be hard to say goodbye to Henry and Duane in April.
You're probably correct. Right now, I suppose I'd be happy with just one National Championship, but as soon as we win it this year, I'm sure I'm going to start pining for back-to-back titles.
Think it is way too early to predict anyone is leaving in April based on this game against a weak undersized team. Let's see how folks play against good NCAA talent first.
Quote from: Class71 on August 12, 2015, 05:37:25 PM
Think it is way too early to predict anyone is leaving in April based on this game against a weak undersized team. Let's see how folks play against good NCAA talent first.
Sounds like the Warriors did pretty well today. Did not see the game. Duane appears to have picked up where he left off last year, and then some. Carter sounds promising. And Henry appears to be the real deal.
What about the other team? What was their ability? D1 or lower?
Quote from: bilsu on August 12, 2015, 03:52:45 PM
It will be hard to say goodbye to Henry and Duane in April.
If DJO barely makes the NBA, Jerel and Vander don't get drafted what makes you think Duane would have a chance leaving after this year?
Can we bring Thomas to Milwaukee to call some games next year? I'll take him over Dickey Simpkins, and everyone on FS1 other than Marshall and Raff.
Quote from: chapman on August 12, 2015, 06:54:48 PM
Can we bring Thomas to Milwaukee to call some games next year? I'll take him over Dickey Simpkins, and everyone on FS1 other than Marshall and Raff.
You don't like Tim Brando, Eric Collins, Dick Stockton, Joe Davis or Justin Kuchter as play by play men?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 12, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
Not cleared by the NCAA yet.
I see. What is the issue with his eligibility that is under review...?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on August 12, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
If DJO barely makes the NBA, Jerel and Vander don't get drafted what makes you think Duane would have a chance leaving after this year?
Drugs
Quote from: Bradley Brew on August 12, 2015, 11:18:07 PM
I see. What is the issue with his eligibility that is under review...?
My guess is that they are sorting out his transcript to see what classes fill the eligibility requirements. He is by all accounts a good student, so I doubt this is anything but a bump in the road.
This win will surely help with our seeding.
Quote from: willie warrior on August 12, 2015, 05:43:35 PM
Sounds like the Warriors did pretty well today. Did not see the game. Duane appears to have picked up where he left off last year, and then some. Carter sounds promising. And Henry appears to be the real deal.
What about the other team? What was their ability? D1 or lower?
Definitely Division I. I would say no lower than 200 RPI. Was a semifinalist in Icelandic league playoffs last year per announcer, and have added a good player from the US in Billy Madison who, disappointingly, looked nothing like Adam Sandler. Great outside shooting, good offensive movement, but little height.
I watched ten minutes of the game before my ears started bleeding from Broeker's commentary; you're supposed to be providing color analysis on the game, Mike, not MU's basketball program. Sounds like a damn infomercial... I'm expecting Mike to toss out an 800-number for season tickets at just $99 per month on the EZ-Pay plan.
I'd rather listen to the radio broadcasts for UK, KU, NC, and Dayton before I'd listen to Broeker again. Heck, I'd even listen to their college radio stations' post-game shows before I'd put Broeker on the air - or YouTube - ever again.
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on August 13, 2015, 09:15:47 AM
Definitely Division I. I would say no lower than 200 RPI. Was a semifinalist in Icelandic league playoffs last year per announcer, and have added a good player from the US in Billy Madison who, disappointingly, looked nothing like Adam Sandler. Great outside shooting, good offensive movement, but little height.
I thought they looked like a solid D1 team. They could shoot the ball. And they had several guys as big as HE, so I wouldn't necessarily call them "small".
Hey, and least we aren't DePaul who lost by 34 to a French team. (Who admittedly is probably a lot better than the team we played yesterday.)
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081215aaa.html
Most importantly, since games with Icelandic teams are few and far between, we could be looking at decades of bragging rights in Iceland.
From what I can gather, that French team plays in the third division. For English football fans, it would be like a team from League One.
Quote from: MUfan12 on August 13, 2015, 09:58:24 AM
From what I can gather, that French team plays in the third division. For English football fans, it would be like a team from League One.
The heck with English football fans, what about D1 NCAA basketball fans?
Quote from: Michael Kenyon on August 13, 2015, 10:16:07 AM
The heck with English football fans, what about D1 NCAA basketball fans?
It's like DePaul playing DePaul. Someone is going to win - doesn't matter by how much - but you know it's going to be painful to watch.
Glad I wasn't alone. Mike is a great guy - and he openly asked for feedback on the broadcast - so I hope he reads this site. Mike couldn't stop interrupting the play-by-play guy. It was rare when he let him completely finish a sentence. Annoyed the hell out of me so I muted the broadcast. Color commentary isn't easy - yesterday was a good reminder of that. Hopefully someone gives him the head's up that sometimes less is more. Or that he should occasionally let his counterpart complete a thought without being talked over. The only way to go is up. That having been said - we're extremely spoiled to even have these broadcasts available to us.
Quote from: Benny B on August 13, 2015, 09:29:25 AM
I watched ten minutes of the game before my ears started bleeding from Broeker's commentary; you're supposed to be providing color analysis on the game, Mike, not MU's basketball program. Sounds like a damn infomercial... I'm expecting Mike to toss out an 800-number for season tickets at just $99 per month on the EZ-Pay plan.
I'd rather listen to the radio broadcasts for UK, KU, NC, and Dayton before I'd listen to Broeker again. Heck, I'd even listen to their college radio stations' post-game shows before I'd put Broeker on the air - or YouTube - ever again.
I'm not gonna be to tough on Broeker. I think this was his 1st time. Kent Sommerfeld has to fill in somewhat regularly and is pretty bad.
Quote from: mu-rara on August 13, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I'm not gonna be to tough on Broeker. I think this was his 1st time. Kent Sommerfeld has to fill in somewhat regularly and is pretty bad.
he was awful-
like listening to Dick Butkus scream/talk over the play-by-play guy all the time- sort of like McCarren.
annoying as hell.
that said, it
was only a stream-
glad to have something to watch.
enjoyed much of what I saw from the team.
Jeez guys it was a summer league game from Italy. I'm just glad that we can even see these things.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 13, 2015, 03:57:50 PM
Jeez guys it was a summer league game from Italy. I'm just glad that we can even see these things.
Marquette fans
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Broeker was fine. It's not his day job and he was knowledgable.
He should still come up with his own catch phrase. Italian for balls is my suggestion.
Quote from: MUfan12 on August 13, 2015, 09:58:24 AM
From what I can gather, that French team plays in the third division. For English football fans, it would be like a team from League One.
Well to put it in perspective, Davante was the MVP of the French second division.
I really didn't think Broeker was that bad. Of course I barely listen to the announcers during the games. But talk of ears bleeding due to his broadcast is unnecessary. He had never done this before and did just fine for his first broadcast. I've heard worse from professionals
Broeker is fine so long as he doesn't talk over Thomas anymore.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 13, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
I really didn't think Broeker was that bad. Of course I barely listen to the announcers during the games. But talk of ears bleeding due to his broadcast is unnecessary. He had never done this before and did just fine for his first broadcast. I've heard worse from professionals
+1
Thomas was very good, Mike did fine. He made a few mistakes, but he's as new to this as most of our roster. For a guy that doesn't do it for a living, he did okay. I'm sure he'll also learn from the mistakes he did make and improve the next time out.
I saw NOrth Dakota beat these guys pretty good.
Probably not much to read into though.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 13, 2015, 03:57:50 PM
Jeez guys it was a summer league game from Italy. I'm just glad that we can even see these things.
Exactly. We should consider ourselves blessed to have access to these games. #mubbontvinaugust!
Think part of the problem with the broadcast was it seemed to be 2 separate audio feeds. When i had my earphones in play by play was in the right and Broeker was in the left. I wonder if Broeker could hear the play by play guy in his earphone. I thought the play by play guy was great, seemed to have done his homework and mix in a few European way of saying things thought it was very entertaining. Also thought Broeker was fine except for talking over sometimes but that may have been a technical problem if there were separate audio feeds.
Read that depaul had trouble with You tube and went to some other feed with no audio or graphics. As I have said many times before if you think we are struggling look at Depaul for consolation. Depaul lost to a 4th division team, there was a story on Grantland about players trying to get contracts in Europe and 4th division paid for a shared apartment and 2 meals a day and no salary, guessing talent level not so good.
No injuries. No broken white boards. No freak landing on neck. All in all, a very good game. Looking forward to the next one.
I thought Broker was insightful and interesting. My biggest problem with him was he was too big of a homer. It got so bad that he even got the play by play guy commenting like an MU homer in agreement. Broeker never spoke up when MU got the benefit of a missed call or a bad call, but he always made it known when he thought the refs missed a call or made a call that did not favor MU, and even continued to bring it back up multiple possessions later. I thought the refs were very good (the game was called too tight overall, but they were very consistent and very in control of the game).
Quote from: wadesworld on August 13, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
I thought Broker was insightful and interesting. My biggest problem with him was he was too big of a homer. It got so bad that he even got the play by play guy commenting like an MU homer in agreement. Broeker never spoke up when MU got the benefit of a missed call or a bad call, but he always made it known when he thought the refs missed a call or made a call that did not favor MU, and even continued to bring it back up multiple possessions later. I thought the refs were very good (the game was called too tight overall, but they were very consistent and very in control of the game).
Wade's I love ya dude, but who gives a f.ck if he was a homer? Nobody gives a sh.t about the Iceland team on our broadcast.
Quote from: Stone Cold on August 13, 2015, 05:47:57 PM
Wade's I love ya dude, but who gives a f.ck if he was a homer? Nobody gives a sh.t about the Iceland team on our broadcast.
Just loses some credibility to me when he makes sure not to miss calling out a missed call that doesn't go MU's way but doesn't open his mouth once when MU benefits.
If you think we are giving Broeker a hard time, you should go see what they are saying over on the Hauker board. I've seen hlutdræg maður fyrir heimaliðið thrown around a few times.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 13, 2015, 09:51:40 AM
Hey, and least we aren't DePaul who lost by 34 to a French team. (Who admittedly is probably a lot better than the team we played yesterday.)
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081215aaa.html
Wow DePaul mentions the bus driver before the coach or any players.
"The travel party boarded the bus with driver Joop Timmers around 9:30 a.m. local time Wednesday and made the two-hour trip south to Mont St. Michel."
Quote from: wadesworld on August 13, 2015, 06:00:34 PM
Just loses some credibility to me when he makes sure not to miss calling out a missed call that doesn't go MU's way but doesn't open his mouth once when MU benefits.
What credibility? He's not a professional announcer. He is providing commentary to a Marquette audience on a Youtube channel.
Quote from: MilWarrior on August 13, 2015, 03:33:36 PM
Mike couldn't stop interrupting the play-by-play guy. It was rare when he let him completely finish a sentence.
Well, since he sits so close to Homer at games I can see where he learned it from!
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 13, 2015, 08:58:24 PM
What credibility? He's not a professional announcer. He is providing commentary to a Marquette audience on a Youtube channel.
It's my personal preference/opinion. By the 5th or 6th time he complained about a call against Marquette or a missed call for Marquette despite bad calls or missed calls going both ways it became less credible to me. Just my personal preference. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree, and clearly they don't. That's fine. I personally didn't care for it.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 13, 2015, 09:26:33 PM
It's my personal preference/opinion. By the 5th or 6th time he complained about a call against Marquette or a missed call for Marquette despite bad calls or missed calls going both ways it became less credible to me. Just my personal preference. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree, and clearly they don't. That's fine. I personally didn't care for it.
Homer and Mac actually do this all the time. It gets old quickly.
Quote from: chapman on August 13, 2015, 09:42:21 PM
Homer and Mac actually do this all the time. It gets old quickly.
Agreed. And I thought Broeker was even worse than those 2 are at it, as those 2 at least sometimes point out when a missed call that benefits MU. Again, just my own personal preference.
Can I change the topic to "post game basketball thoughts" or is it too late for that?
Quote from: chapman on August 13, 2015, 09:42:21 PM
Homer and Mac actually do this all the time. It gets old quickly.
Well one call I did not agree with was the blocked shot they called a goal tend by Duane Wilson early in the game. He hit that shot off the backboard he did not take it off the backboard or get it on the way down...I watched that one.
But I was not privily to be there in game speed...so I will let that go. But good hustle to recover quickly after getting beat somewhat on the backdoor cut.
Traci Carter I saw for the first time. I like the kid already. I swear when he hit the jumper at the top of the key at 29:40 or so and the way he gets up into his man and the way he seems to compete and move around...all I could see was KEMBA WALKER.If he can be a Kemba Walker type player here as he was for UConn and Calhoun then we got something. He and Duane play well together. It is going to be a treat watching him grow.
When he gets into the season and starts to feel his way through it, some games he might will this team to wins...if he has any leadership skills that all of those former PG's can instill in him he has the toughness and drive and East Coast moxie for it...Look out.
Good entry passing....by TC! Luke with the sweet post move and hook shot here....
Entry passes:
Several times I saw the guards get the right angles to execute the entry pass which to me as a fan is a lost art in basketball with our young players all around basketball.
I know for a fact they are not taught that in AAU...they are too busy running up and down the court playing a style the young players prefer rather then a structured offense if they have a Big.
This is a key skill to have with the 'bigs' MU has that can score in the low post if the ball is delivered right and they have the mismatch which will be often.
Which also brings me to Luke Fischer with the nice right hand jump hook on the baseline at 30:55 it was...on the feed from Traci.
Luke had the guy on his hip, waited for the guy doubling down to move up backed his man down with a few dribbles fake one way went the other and spun back and threw up a sweet hook.
Once the threat to hit open shots is established by the guards the big men are going to get plenty to eat down low. The team has the make of some good high/low action this year.
Somebody [Coach Chris Carrawell?] is working with the 'bigs' well. I have seen many good moves in the post by Henry and Luke...as the late Bernie Mac says, "that's nice, real nice.." lol
Uh oh....here comes the highlights.
I knocked over my drink here after Traci storms up court and then lobs a perfect alley loop pass to Henry who went up and caught it and threw it down....
You know what? Henry gets up off his feet quick man! Wow. Him and his brother can get up.
Now I have see big men jump before, but he has some explosion. You want him to get bigger but then again, maybe you don't. Just stronger. He is light on his feet which will play well when he runs the floor and gets up and down with these PG's.
Then. . . on the last trip down Traci Carter comes back after allowing his man in the paint on one trip that made a big come over to help and get whistled for a foul to cover him, unfazed TCarter comes back after picking up a foul and fearlessly breaks the ankles of a Haukar defender and then puts up a sweet looking 3pt [they called it a 2pt shot] shot that ripped throw the net!!!
Ice Ice baby! Ice water lol.
I have not seen that in an MU PG since Dominic James left. Duane in some spurts showed us this but it is good to see...
Now that was a Kemba Walker move there...or maybe a Traci Carter one. Its one game, and one quarter, but good so far.
20-18 Haukar over MU after 1st qtr. Can't wait to see more...
Strong showing by Eagles here I think.
Kemba Walker comparisons already? What's the drink of choice tonight? I like Traci a lot but Kemba comparisons are a bit of a stretch at this point.
Henry Ellenson in the open floor though....wow.
I think one game he might even get 10 assists in a game from the Center position.
For a team that has not played with each other in a game before they look good.
That dynamic they have of being able to allow Henry to bring it up and his unselfishness to find others, make the right pass, and for almost anyone to be able to knock down the jumper is going to up alot of things up for the G.Eagles offensively.
That is the most encouraging thing I took from this game besides no one getting injured on the wet floor, is the leadership and play of Wilson and Carter on both ends.
The low post potential of Fischer.
The skill set of Henry Ellenson and the open court threat to his game.
The versatility and the aggressiveness of JJ and Cohen and Sacar.
Negatives:
Hit them free throws.
Overall Grade B-
Quote from: wadesworld on August 13, 2015, 09:26:33 PM
It's my personal preference/opinion. By the 5th or 6th time he complained about a call against Marquette or a missed call for Marquette despite bad calls or missed calls going both ways it became less credible to me. Just my personal preference. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree, and clearly they don't. That's fine. I personally didn't care for it.
First pro tip: turn the volume down.
Second pro tip: you're misguided to look for credibility, of any facet, in a Marquette foreign tour game.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on August 14, 2015, 09:10:46 AM
First pro tip: turn the volume down.
Second pro tip: you're misguided to look for credibility, of any facet, in a Marquette foreign tour game.
...from a guy who isn't really trained to do this sort of work.
I could barely hear Broeker. Someone needs to turn up the Mike or he needs to speak into it. I've never wished I had an equalizer on my computer until this game. I would have loved to be able to turn up his channel to I could hear him without cranking up the volume.
Anyway, maybe some of you on twitter can tweat our about turning up his volume if it is low during the next game...?
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on August 14, 2015, 09:10:46 AM
First pro tip: turn the volume down.
Second pro tip: you're misguided to look for credibility, of any facet, in a Marquette foreign tour game.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 14, 2015, 09:37:28 AM
...from a guy who isn't really trained to do this sort of work.
...how else to state this?
Not sure where I ever said I expected or was looking for Broeker to be perfect at this or to have credibility. I said, and still say, I
prefer (not demand, not expect, but
prefer) someone point out the calls that benefit my team if he's going to make sure he's pointing out every possible call that went against my team. It's just my
preference. Is that okay?
Like I said, I thought Broeker was knowledgeable, interesting, and informative. Why would I want to turn down the volume? I just
PREFER that he wouldn't be so one sided. Nowhere did I say this made him awful. Nowhere did I say I couldn't listen to him. I just said he was so blatantly one sided that he was even influencing the guy he worked with. I
prefer some objectivity. Just a
preference.But thank you, I will keep in mind your pro tips. Very valuable bits of information that I will hang onto dearly.
Quote from: mu-rara on August 13, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
I'm not gonna be to tough on Broeker. I think this was his 1st time. Kent Sommerfeld has to fill in somewhat regularly and is pretty bad.
Exactly. Mike is our deputy AD. I don't understand the harsh criticism. Who cares. We are lucky to even see the games live and have some to call the game as it is.
I thought Mike was fine. He talked over Thomas when the guy was flipping out and saying nothing of relevance. No problem there.
The audio split (left for Mike, right for Thomas) was broken. And I could hear Mike breathing a bit heavy at times.
I thought Broeker was quite good.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 14, 2015, 09:47:39 AM
...how else to state this?
Not sure where I ever said I expected or was looking for Broeker to be perfect at this or to have credibility. I said, and still say, I prefer (not demand, not expect, but prefer) someone point out the calls that benefit my team if he's going to make sure he's pointing out every possible call that went against my team. It's just my preference. Is that okay?
Like I said, I thought Broeker was knowledgeable, interesting, and informative. Why would I want to turn down the volume? I just PREFER that he wouldn't be so one sided. Nowhere did I say this made him awful. Nowhere did I say I couldn't listen to him. I just said he was so blatantly one sided that he was even influencing the guy he worked with. I prefer some objectivity. Just a preference.
But thank you, I will keep in mind your pro tips. Very valuable bits of information that I will hang onto dearly.
Third pro tip: life is going very well if Broeker's words on a YouTube feed from a glorified scrimmage have caused this much angst in your preferences.
Crack a cold one, drop the flops, stare at the sun, deep breath. Then, repeat. Often.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on August 14, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
Third pro tip: life is going very well if Broeker's words on a YouTube feed from a glorified scrimmage have caused this much angst in your preferences.
Crack a cold one, drop the flops, stare at the sun, deep breath. Then, repeat. Often.
Broeker's words on a YouTube feed from a glofiried scrimmage caused absolutely no angst whatsoever. Don't understand why there are so many questions about a pretty simple personal preference here.
But my life is going very well. I don't drink, so I'll leave out the cracking a cold one and staring at the sun as well. I do like to breathe deeply, though.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on August 14, 2015, 02:11:08 AM
Good entry passing....by TC! Luke with the sweet post move and hook shot here....
Entry passes:
Several times I saw the guards get the right angles to execute the entry pass which to me as a fan is a lost art in basketball with our young players all around basketball.
I know for a fact they are not taught that in AAU...they are too busy running up and down the court playing a style the young players prefer rather then a structured offense if they have a Big.
This is a key skill to have with the 'bigs' MU has that can score in the low post if the ball is delivered right and they have the mismatch which will be often.
Which also brings me to Luke Fischer with the nice right hand jump hook on the baseline at 30:55 it was...on the feed from Traci.
Luke had the guy on his hip, waited for the guy doubling down to move up backed his man down with a few dribbles fake one way went the other and spun back and threw up a sweet hook.
Once the threat to hit open shots is established by the guards the big men are going to get plenty to eat down low. The team has the make of some good high/low action this year.
Somebody [Coach Chris Carrawell?] is working with the 'bigs' well. I have seen many good moves in the post by Henry and Luke...as the late Bernie Mac says, "that's nice, real nice.." lol
How long has it been that we have been aching for big men. Now we have three.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 14, 2015, 11:35:01 AM
How long has it been that we have been aching for big men.
ZFB has been aching FROM big men.
It is pretty wild to see Henry and Luke out there together, in MU jerseys.
Yea, ok, but what did wades think of the announcing?
Quote from: Warrior Code on August 14, 2015, 11:55:12 AM
Yea, ok, but what did wades think of the announcing?
I thought he was insightful and interesting but was too much of a homer when it came to commenting on the refs/calls.
Anybody else?
Quote from: wadesworld on August 14, 2015, 12:17:34 PM
I thought he was insightful and interesting but was too much of a homer when it came to commenting on the refs/calls.
Anybody else?
nope. I would put this in the category of who gives a sh##.
Quote from: 79Warrior on August 14, 2015, 12:27:12 PM
nope. I would put this in the category of who gives a sh##.
Agreed. Didn't think my simple personal preference would be so carefully dissected. It was meant to be one post on what I personally thought he could've improved on. Oh well.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 14, 2015, 12:28:19 PM
Agreed. Didn't think my simple personal preference would be so carefully dissected. It was meant to be one post on what I personally thought he could've improved on. Oh well.
My personal preference would be that people don't dissect performances of our deputy ad's announcing job when he was providing a favor to the live feed/mu fans when that's not his normal gig as we all know but that's neither here nor there.
Inexperienced announcing in exhibitions in Italy is going to be an albatross for the program this season... ;)
North Dakota 71- Haukar 53. Maybe MU wore them out. Yeahhhhhh, that's it.
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2015, 12:42:40 PM
North Dakota 71- Haukar 53. Maybe MU wore them out. Yeahhhhhh, that's it.
They were playing different players.
Quote from: Sharpie on August 14, 2015, 12:35:59 PM
My personal preference would be that people don't dissect performances of our deputy ad's announcing job when he was providing a favor to the live feed/mu fans when that's not his normal gig as we all know but that's neither here nor there.
Well, our deputy AD asked for feedback on his performance, so you may not prefer it, but he did.
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2015, 12:42:40 PM
North Dakota 71- Haukar 53. Maybe MU wore them out. Yeahhhhhh, that's it.
This will not help our seeding.
Quote from: Sharpie on August 14, 2015, 12:35:59 PM
My personal preference would be that people don't dissect performances of our deputy ad's announcing job when he was providing a favor to the live feed/mu fans when that's not his normal gig as we all know but that's neither here nor there.
Just as long as I can continue to dissect the performance of our deputy AD's scheduling jobs, since that is his normal gig.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 14, 2015, 11:35:01 AM
How long has it been that we have been aching for big men. Now we have three.
Davante was pretty good. Won us a few games during his career. Apart from that, I agree that this is a nice development. Heldt has a lot of potential, and hopefully will be ready to step up when Luke graduates.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on August 14, 2015, 02:11:08 AM.
Somebody [Coach Chris Carrawell?] is working with the 'bigs' well. I have seen many good moves in the post by Henry and Luke...as the late Bernie Mac says, "that's nice, real nice.." lol
I don't who coach's the "Big" at MU, but Wojo had that job at Duke for a few years.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 14, 2015, 12:28:19 PM
Agreed. Didn't think my simple personal preference would be so carefully dissected. It was meant to be one post on what I personally thought he could've improved on. Oh well.
That's what I was poking fun at. Not a shot at you.
Quote from: Warrior Code on August 14, 2015, 01:24:04 PM
That's what I was poking fun at. Not a shot at you.
Haha I thought so but just figured I would respond ;)
Jerry Wainwright taught Timmy Duncan everything he knows, a'inal?
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 14, 2015, 01:40:46 PM
Jerry Wainwright taught Timmy Duncan everything he knows, a'inal?
I can't remember, was that at MU or DePaul?
Quote from: Loose Cannon on August 14, 2015, 01:17:46 PM
I don't who coach's the "Big" at MU, but Wojo had that job at Duke for a few years.
From articles I have read it sounds like Carrawell was the one coaching Luke to get more aggressive in the paint. So it seems he is the "bigs" guy (I'm sure in conjunction with Wojo).
Quote from: wadesworld on August 14, 2015, 01:26:22 PM
Haha I thought so but just figured I would respond ;)
On here I find it better to go in expecting for anything said to blow up.
Then be pleasantly surprised when it's a 1 and done post as intended lol.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on August 14, 2015, 02:00:14 PM
On here I find it better to go in expecting for anything said to blow up.
Then be pleasantly surprised when it's a 1 and done post as intended lol.
Now THAT is a pro tip!
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 14, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
From articles I have read it sounds like Carrawell was the one coaching Luke to get more aggressive in the paint. So it seems he is the "bigs" guy (I'm sure in conjunction with Wojo).
Thanks, good to know.
Apparently it is more interesting to talk about an asst. AD then the game or postulate on how great young an inexperienced player will destroy the competition and go on to the NBA in one year. Apparently I saw a different game. The one I saw we were fortunate to win and we only did in the last few minutes. Not exactly dominating ... IMHO
Quote from: Class71 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
Apparently it is more interesting to talk about an asst. AD then the game or postulate on how great young an inexperienced player will destroy the competition and go on to the NBA in one year. Apparently I saw a different game. The one I saw we were fortunate to win and we only did in the last few minutes. Not exactly dominating ... IMHO
What? First game with 5 of the 10 scholly players being freshman and we didn't dominate a team in Europe? I'm going to get a secondary degree from KU so I have a team to root for.
There were a lot of 'goods' to be taken from this game -- TC, Sandy, Luke (and Luke not getting hurt on that fall), DW, etc. If you expect domination you are in for a long year.
Also, i thought the asst DA did a fine job for a first timer. Better than most. What got to me was not the heavy breathing but the very faint groans you could hear in your left ear when they missed an assignment or made a mental mistake.
Quote from: Class71 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
Apparently it is more interesting to talk about an asst. AD then the game or postulate on how great young an inexperienced player will destroy the competition and go on to the NBA in one year. Apparently I saw a different game. The one I saw we were fortunate to win and we only did in the last few minutes. Not exactly dominating ... IMHO
Seeing that this is the first game, what were your expectation? Did you have a chance to view this game? If you did would you care to share your thoughts?
Back to the actual game... Did anyone else notice how much more enjoyable it was to watch the game without all the timeouts that we have to endure during the regular season games? The flow of the play was so much better. I realize there are lots of bills that have to be paid, I guess we can dream.
Quote from: doc K on August 14, 2015, 10:28:45 PM
Back to the actual game... Did anyone else notice how much more enjoyable it was to watch the game without all the timeouts that we have to endure during the regular season games? The flow of the play was so much better. I realize there are lots of bills that have to be paid, I guess we can dream.
Yep, and none of the terrible back-to-backs. Which I think they eliminated this year, or was it just proposed?
Also excited for the shorter shot clock. 24 is even quicker, but it seemed to play out nicer than the 35. I think 30 could be optimal. Also really hope the offensive rebound reset to 15 makes its way into the game.
Quote from: doc K on August 14, 2015, 10:28:45 PM
Back to the actual game... Did anyone else notice how much more enjoyable it was to watch the game without all the timeouts that we have to endure during the regular season games? The flow of the play was so much better. I realize there are lots of bills that have to be paid, I guess we can dream.
Yeah, don't count on that. (Although timeouts will be reduced this year.. it'll still be often unbearable.)
Quote from: chapman on August 14, 2015, 11:01:04 PM
Yep, and none of the terrible back-to-backs. Which I think they eliminated this year, or was it just proposed?
Also excited for the shorter shot clock. 24 is even quicker, but it seemed to play out nicer than the 35. I think 30 could be optimal. Also really hope the offensive rebound reset to 15 makes its way into the game.
I had never thought of that before, but, yeah, that would be nice.