Not only is the arena a positive to keep the Bucks (and the partnership with MU), but here are some other benefits to MU fans (those in the seats):
1. No hockey rink and sight lines. My seats behind the basket will now be substantially closer to the action.
2. Three tiers of seating. Similar to the Herb Kohl Center, the 2nd deck will be ideal viewing. The 3rd level will really only be used for big games (over 15,000). The place will look full with the typical 13,000.
3. Dates. Not sure it will change much, but the Admirals will not be a part of the equation.
4. More sellouts. With a seating capacity of 16,500, MU should sell out several games a year. This is always good for ticket holders :)
Anything else? In short, this will be a great deal for MU fans and should really help the coaching staff from a recruiting standpoint.
Two questions
1) Have they said what MU is going to pay for rent?
2) Are they going to put plexiglass up in front of the first row because sometimes players dive for balls and they go into the crowd....to protect the safety of the fans?
8-)
What happened to the Admirals?
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 17, 2015, 08:33:17 AM
What happened to the Admirals?
Sounds like they'll be moving to the Arena once the BC gets torn down.
I haven't seen 16,500 as a capacity anywhere. I'd be surprised if the NBA let them dip below 17k.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 17, 2015, 08:14:48 AM
Two questions
1) Have they said what MU is going to pay for rent?
2) Are they going to put plexiglass up in front of the first row because sometimes players dive for balls and they go into the crowd....to protect the safety of the fans?
8-)
I would think plexiglass would be an injury hazard for players. Besides that you better expect to meet a player from time to time, if you buy first row tickets.
I have avoided the arena thread since its early days. Can someone give me a one paragraph synopsis of where things are and when the arena is slated to open so I don't have to wade through pages of BS to find it? Thanks.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 17, 2015, 08:14:48 AM
Two questions
1) Have they said what MU is going to pay for rent?
2) Are they going to put plexiglass up in front of the first row because sometimes players dive for balls and they go into the crowd....to protect the safety of the fans?
8-)
Haven't heard of fans dying because of something flying into the stands at NBA games. The worst I've ever seen are a few sucker punches thrown by players towards fans and a spilled beer or nachos. But hey, almost a good comparison.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 17, 2015, 08:33:17 AM
What happened to the Admirals?
Admirals out in the cold. This is a basketball arena. Likely to the Arena. See story.
http://www.wisn.com/sports/questions-on-how-milwaukee-admirals-fit-into-plans-for-new-downtown-arena/34192390
Quote from: jsglow on July 17, 2015, 09:45:19 AM
Admirals out in the cold. This is a basketball arena. Likely to the Arena. See story.
http://www.wisn.com/sports/questions-on-how-milwaukee-admirals-fit-into-plans-for-new-downtown-arena/34192390
To be fair, they were in the cold in the BC. It's hockey.
I had not seen anything about 3 tiers of seating before I like that idea!
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on July 17, 2015, 10:04:33 AM
To be fair, they were in the cold in the BC. It's hockey.
+1
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on July 17, 2015, 10:04:33 AM
To be fair, they were in the cold in the BC. It's hockey.
Hooray! Built for basketball = better for MU.
Picturing a somewhat smaller United Center (but with permanent seats all the way to the floor). The 200 Level at the UC is sandwiched between two skybox levels. Outstanding seats; favorite place to sit if not directly courtside. MKE's new 300 Level could be significantly smaller (UC holds roughly 21K total for basketball) and I'm guessing there won't be any rooftop skyboxes which were a pretty tough sell initially even in a city this large.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on July 17, 2015, 09:09:17 AM
I have avoided the arena thread since its early days. Can someone give me a one paragraph synopsis of where things are and when the arena is slated to open so I don't have to wade through pages of BS to find it? Thanks.
Senate approved financing 21-10, still has to be approved by assembly, county and city which should happen by September. Shovels in ground by November, complete by start of 2017 season but probably longer than that.
I for one cannot wait to leave the BC behind. Beyond the excitement a basketball first building, I am also hopeful they will return to stage lighting. The BC is was too bright. Stage lighting is making a comeback in the NBA. Lakers and Knicks have had it for awhile, the Nets now have it in BKN and the Clippers just recently went to it.
Quote from: The Lens on July 17, 2015, 12:13:50 PM
I for one cannot wait to leave the BC behind. Beyond the excitement a basketball first building, I am also hopeful they will return to stage lighting. The BC is was too bright. Stage lighting is making a comeback in the NBA. Lakers and Knicks have had it for awhile, the Nets now have it in BKN and the Clippers just recently went to it.
Interesting. Certain the Bucks want to be state of the art and our owners are no dummies.
I'll be happy with a cup holder and a seat that faces the court. I'm easy to please, I guess.
But, please, please give us cup holders! My beer will thank you.
Quote from: GOO on July 17, 2015, 12:19:07 PM
I'll be happy with a cup holder and a seat that faces the court. I'm easy to please, I guess.
But, please, please give us cup holders! My beer will thank you.
My wife and I took our kids to see WWE SmackDown at the BC last week. No joke: She said that the new arena will be worth it just to have cup holders.
Quote from: The Lens on July 17, 2015, 12:13:50 PM
I for one cannot wait to leave the BC behind. Beyond the excitement a basketball first building, I am also hopeful they will return to stage lighting. The BC is was too bright. Stage lighting is making a comeback in the NBA. Lakers and Knicks have had it for awhile, the Nets now have it in BKN and the Clippers just recently went to it.
Interesting and I agree on the BC having too much light in the stands. That is one thing I missed about the Mecca. By having the lighting dimmed in the crowd, people seem more focused on the court that is lit up. It definitely makes for a better atmosphere.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on July 17, 2015, 12:21:02 PM
My wife and I took our kids to see WWE SmackDown at the BC last week. No joke: She said that the new arena will be worth it just to have cup holders.
You obviously married a wise women. :)
Quote from: GOO on July 17, 2015, 12:22:10 PM
Interesting and I agree on the BC having too much light in the stands. That is one thing I missed about the Mecca. By having the lighting dimmed in the crowd, people seem more focused on the court that is lit up. It definitely makes for a better atmosphere.
Plus it'll be better for smooching with chick during those desperately boring RPI 300+ games. ;D
Why would lighting over the stands be an issue? Do people actually pay attention to what's going on in the stands while the game is going on when the lights are on?
Regarding projected capacity, does anyone know the NCAA's minimum capacity for holding a Regional?
Quote from: wadesworld on July 17, 2015, 12:35:15 PM
Why would lighting over the stands be an issue? Do people actually pay attention to what's going on in the stands while the game is going on when the lights are on?
Wades, the bright lights in the seating area are an awful distraction. It's like sitting in someones' basement rec room with the overhead recessed lighting. You could read a book in the stands during the game-leads to all kinds of distractions when people show up late across the court, or when your wife is pointing out that your friends' seats are empty.
At the arena the seats were dimmed, and the court was the center of attention. I've complained about the lighting since the move to BC.
I've seen projections for a 17K arena. Kohl center fits about that. I would think it would be a more circular (less rectangular) than the Kohl center. I would also think the NCAA wouldn't object considering the history in Milwaukee.
Quote from: augoman on July 17, 2015, 01:00:02 PM
Wades, the bright lights in the seating area are an awful distraction. It's like sitting in someones' basement rec room with the overhead recessed lighting. You could read a book in the stands during the game-leads to all kinds of distractions when people show up late across the court, or when your wife is pointing out that your friends' seats are empty.
At the arena the seats were dimmed, and the court was the center of attention. I've complained about the lighting since the move to BC.
Agree. My biggest complaints about the BC have always been the hockey sightlines and the lighting.
Quote from: jsglow on July 17, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
Plus it'll be better for smooching with chick during those desperately boring RPI 300+ games. ;D
I thought you guys were too old for that!!! ;)
Quote from: augoman on July 17, 2015, 01:00:02 PM
Wades, the bright lights in the seating area are an awful distraction. It's like sitting in someones' basement rec room with the overhead recessed lighting. You could read a book in the stands during the game-leads to all kinds of distractions when people show up late across the court, or when your wife is pointing out that your friends' seats are empty.
At the arena the seats were dimmed, and the court was the center of attention. I've complained about the lighting since the move to BC.
Really? I personally hate when they have the dimmed lighting. Especially on TV. The "Battle for Atlantis" tournament always looks horrible on TV due to the lighting in my opinion. In person I never really liked it either. Just makes for an odd atmosphere to me.
I've read 16K for seating. Maybe that means 16K+ so that it is closer to 17K, I have no idea but the closer to 16K the better.
16K would be perfect for MU and for atmosphere. The BC at 18.5 is too big for MU and for the Bucks for 95% of the games.
DOES THIS MEAN MORE NIGHT GAMES I'M NOT YELLING YOU'RE YELLING.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 17, 2015, 01:50:22 PM
Really? I personally hate when they have the dimmed lighting. Especially on TV. The "Battle for Atlantis" tournament always looks horrible on TV due to the lighting in my opinion. In person I never really liked it either. Just makes for an odd atmosphere to me.
Oh, that gym takes it to an extreme. We're not talking about that kind of movie theater darkness in the crowd, but definitely dimmer than the current setup.
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on July 17, 2015, 03:58:58 PM
Oh, that gym takes it to an extreme. We're not talking about that kind of movie theater darkness in the crowd, but definitely dimmer than the current setup.
That's not a gym, it's a ballroom.
(http://img22.xooimage.com/files/a/2/0/sans-titre-12-1154b93.png)
Does a smaller arena mean higher ticket prices? Less seats to sell means less revenue with the same pricing structure.
Quote from: bilsu on July 17, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
Does a smaller arena mean higher ticket prices? Less seats to sell means less revenue with the same pricing structure.
If not a smaller one, a new arena means higher prices. Especially since it looks like there will be a $2 surcharge on all tickets to help pay for the place.
In short, yes, MU fans will pay more for tickets in the future.
There's already a $2 per ticket surcharge on all Bradley Center tickets priced over $12 and a slightly smaller ($1.50? per ticket) surcharge on tickets under $12. That won't add to the ticket cost except the new plan calls for a flat $2 surcharge on all tickets.
But a new arena always leads to an increase in ticket prices, surcharge or not.
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on July 17, 2015, 04:44:00 PM
If not a smaller one, a new arena means higher prices. Especially since it looks like there will be a $2 surcharge on all tickets to help pay for the place.
In short, yes, MU fans will pay more for tickets in the future.
The surcharge isn't used to help pay for the place.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 17, 2015, 05:25:25 PM
The surcharge isn't used to help pay for the place.
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2015/07/15/senate-democrats-alter-milwaukee-arena-deal-adding.html
Unless I'm missing something that paying off the debt from building the arena is not the same as paying for the arena.
Quote from: PTM on July 17, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
That's not a gym, it's a ballroom.
(http://img22.xooimage.com/files/a/2/0/sans-titre-12-1154b93.png)
Is that Jen Lada at the podium?
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on July 17, 2015, 05:38:44 PM
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2015/07/15/senate-democrats-alter-milwaukee-arena-deal-adding.html
Unless I'm missing something that paying off the debt from building the arena is not the same as paying for the arena.
Hmm weird, I heard multiple interviews with Peter Feigen following the senate vote saying that the surcharge would go back to the state.
Quote from: bilsu on July 17, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
Does a smaller arena mean higher ticket prices? Less seats to sell means less revenue with the same pricing structure.
Bucks President, Peter Feigin said 90% of the revenue comes from about the first 10 rows or so.
Quote from: bradley center bat on July 17, 2015, 07:45:46 PM
Bucks President, Peter Feigin said 90% of the revenue comes from about the first 10 rows or so.
Thank goodness for chicos' friends, a"inal?