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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: RushmoreAcademy on March 19, 2015, 01:42:04 PM
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General thread for the tournament..... I know MU isn't in it but I'm still getting caught up in it.
ND barely pulls it off. I don't know how you don't even get up a shot on that last possession. That's a killer.
UAB about to pull off a shocker??
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General thread for the tournament..... I know MU isn't in it but I'm still getting caught up in it.
ND barely pulls it off. I don't know how you don't even get up a shot on that last possession. That's a killer.
UAB about to pull off a shocker??
Iowa State Gone.... Wow.
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Where's brew? Wasn't he bragging up Iowa state as a FF team?
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#12 on Northeastern, he was brutal on that last play, oh well.
Iowa State is a shocker. Three seed gone. Niang goes 4 for 16 and foul trouble. Not McKay's fault, 10 points 12 rebounds, 6 blocks. A lot of brackets just got busted on that one.
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My bracket took a major hit, survivable but not good.
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Where's brew? Wasn't he bragging up Iowa state as a FF team?
As well as like 30% of the nation. As was I. Stunned. Honestly thought they were the most complete team behind Kentucky. Absolutely floored.
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IOWA STATE IS OUT
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As well as like 30% of the nation. As was I. Stunned. Honestly thought they were the most complete team behind Kentucky. Absolutely floored.
I had ISU losing on Saturday. I didn't consider them good enough to get to the FF, and to me, they are exactly the kind of team that gets upset.
When they are good - they are really good. But when they're not - that is what we saw today.
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After not picking a single Final 4 team last year, I already lose one in the 2nd game. I should have known Iowa St was becoming too chic of a sleeper Final 4 pick. Should have went with my first instinct of Duke winning the South.
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I had ISU losing on Saturday. I didn't consider them good enough to get to the FF, and to me, they are exactly the kind of team that gets upset.
When they are good - they are really good. But when they're not - that is what we saw today.
My pick was the same.
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I'm surprised Iowa State lost today, but I had them out in the next round anyway.
McKay is a beast.
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You have to feel good for UAB. With their football program shutdown, they needed some positivity in any of their athletics programs. Sad for McKay though, he had a great year for ISU. Hopefully, Burton can put up similar stats next year for Hoiberg.
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Fudge monkey!!!! Had ISU in the final 4 in 3/5 brackets. That hurts baaaaad
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You have to feel good for UAB. With their football program shutdown, they needed some positivity in any of their athletics programs. Sad for McKay though, he had a great year for ISU. Hopefully, Burton can put up similar stats next year for Hoiberg.
Zero good feelings for UAB.
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Butler - Texas should be a good one.
I think Dunham has to get 20 for Butler to win.
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How sad in JB watching his team get absolutely pummeled by Zona??
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Big Chris Superstar NBA with 4 points at half!!
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As well as like 30% of the nation. As was I. Stunned. Honestly thought they were the most complete team behind Kentucky. Absolutely floored.
See, I've watched them and never been impressed when they are away from Hilton. Still had them going to the Elite 8 just because I don't believe in Gonzaga at all, but I don't think they are very good. Too inconsistent.
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OMG, Mark Few hacked Chicos account!
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As well as like 30% of the nation. As was I. Stunned. Honestly thought they were the most complete team behind Kentucky. Absolutely floored.
Not to keep piling on. But that's your fault if you find a team with no d and rebounding complete lol
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That Georgia St shot...... unreal!!!!
That's what was so bad in the Northeastern game. Just get up a shot, even if it's a prayer.
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Wow, with Baylor losing, hopefully X can get past Ole Miss then it should have an easier road to the S16
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And another #3 falls, Baylor who was over ranked as a #3. Maryland should have gotten their three seed.
What a game, Ga. St goes on 13 to 0 run and wins on 25 footer by coach's son, R.J. Hunter (who will play in NBA) at buzzer. Hunter scored 12 of final 13, wow......
Crazy.
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Big 12 showing well.
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Harrow didn't even play lol
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Big 12 showing well.
Whose your top conference now, baby?
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Harrow didn't even play lol
Yes, their leading scorer and second best player. An old Kentucky transfer. Baylor, ugh....... No way a 3 seed.
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It's early, but Big 12 doing their best Big 10 impression thus far. :)
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See, I've watched them and never been impressed when they are away from Hilton. Still had them going to the Elite 8 just because I don't believe in Gonzaga at all, but I don't think they are very good. Too inconsistent.
Agreed, until they start playing tournament games at Hilton I just can't trust Iowa State in March.
Rely so heavily on shooting the 3 that when they aren't feeling it they're susceptible to losing to anyone.
Will be interested to see what happens to The Mayor and if he really is a Chicago Bulls candidate.
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Georgia State....ONIONS!
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Yes, their leading scorer and second best player. An old Kentucky transfer. Baylor, ugh....... No way a 3 seed.
Harrow is actually their best player in my opinion.
Hunter is the prospect but harrow is efficient as hell
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OMG, Mark Few hacked Chicos account!
Al McGuire did.....from beyond
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Georgia State....ONIONS!
Baylor....BUNIONS!
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Al McGuire did.....from beyond
(http://www.accessnorthga.com/img/stories/2013/267676/ison_undated2,_ap_medium.jpg)
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Can someone tell me who is winning these games.....I'm boycotting due to the exploitation and unfairness to NCAA athletes....the misery they are going through right now is not fair.
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Agreed, until they start playing tournament games at Hilton I just can't trust Iowa State in March.
Rely so heavily on shooting the 3 that when they aren't feeling it they're susceptible to losing to anyone.
Will be interested to see what happens to The Mayor and if he really is a Chicago Bulls candidate.
Maybe if they could have gotten Niang a few more shots ;D
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Agreed, until they start playing tournament games at Hilton I just can't trust Iowa State in March.
Rely so heavily on shooting the 3 that when they aren't feeling it they're susceptible to losing to anyone.
Will be interested to see what happens to The Mayor and if he really is a Chicago Bulls candidate.
He's absolutely a candidate. It's a matter of if he truly means it when he says he doesn't want to leave ISU.
He's got basically any NBA opening he wants.
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He's absolutely a candidate. It's a matter of if he truly means it when he says he doesn't want to leave ISU.
He's got basically any NBA opening he wants.
What? A college coach who brings a team up from the bottom using mercenaries......
Oh wait, I see what you mean.
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Can someone tell me who is winning these games.....I'm boycotting due to the exploitation and unfairness to NCAA athletes....the misery they are going through right now is not fair.
I was actually trying to make nice with what I thought was a decent interpretation of Al intervening from beyond, but everything is context poor on a message board. Oi vey! I felt a little guilty about the Few comment, it was just too good to pass up.
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Can someone tell me who is winning these games.....I'm boycotting due to the exploitation and unfairness to NCAA athletes....the misery they are going through right now is not fair.
You can always go back/visit to the Political Board on this Basketball Site and comment on one of the 43 new topics started the last few weeks. Today/Tomorrow are truly exciting Sports Days. End the boycott now.....So far so good........
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Possibly the worst attempt at an inbound ever there for Butler. Four guys standing there with their arms up in the air.
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Okay, should be in the bag. W for the Big East!
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Five games complete so far ...
Favorites are 0 - 5 against the spread
two #3 seeds are gone (ISU and Baylor, both from the B12)
the Big 12 is 0 - 3 (ISU, Baylor and Texas).
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I was actually trying to make nice with what I thought was a decent interpretation of Al intervening from beyond, but everything is context poor on a message board. Oi vey! I felt a little guilty about the Few comment, it was just too good to pass up.
I thought the Few comment was hilarious
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He's absolutely a candidate. It's a matter of if he truly means it when he says he doesn't want to leave ISU.
He's got basically any NBA opening he wants.
The Mayor will be at ISU as long as they want him there--which will be a damn long time. Unless, the Brink's truck backs up to his front door. Then all bets are off.
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The Butler-Texas game was just a horribly played game by two bad teams. Unwatchable. I wonder how many more wins the NBE will get outside of Villanova if they play like Butler did.
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The Butler-Texas game was just a horribly played game by two bad teams. Unwatchable. I wonder how many more wins the NBE will get outside of Villanova if they play like Butler did.
Right now, Xavier is kicking ass!
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Yea, but Ole Miss playing on 2 days rest. They should be kicking their butt.
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Assuming X doesn't choke..... Big East 2-0. Big 12 0-3.
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Yea, but Ole Miss playing on 2 days rest. They should be kicking their butt.
This guy lost his trolling privileges.
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Yea, but Ole Miss playing on 2 days rest. They should be kicking their butt.
Really?
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Wow!! Never thought I would see Stained Pants animated or that I would root for him. He looks like he is having fun!
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Five games complete so far ...
Favorites are 0 - 5 against the spread
two #3 seeds are gone (ISU and Baylor, both from the B12)
the Big 12 is 0 - 3 (ISU, Baylor and Texas).
counting the First 4 in Dayton the dogs are 10-0 vs the spread.
looks like Xavier may hang on and cover their -3
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WTF was that SMU player thinking, yesh
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VCU looks incredibly clueless against a zone.
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THREAD-JACK!
(Yet again.)
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19 point win for X. Should go 3-0 with a Nova win. Then sweat out Georgetown and their usual tournament stinkfest.
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WTF was that SMU player thinking, yesh
The play before that was Davidson chokesque.....he just went for the double whammy with the goaltend.
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OMG, Mark Few hacked Chicos account!
Okay, that was funny.
What? A college coach who brings a team up from the bottom using mercenaries......
Oh wait, I see what you mean.
But that was pure unadulterated win. Well done, LittleWade, victory over the internet is yours today.
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watching Shaka Smart coach today and thinking we got the right guy.
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Anyone know how much tournament revenue shares are worth this year and what the BE's current distribution rule is? Saw two year old numbers at ~$245k for shares.
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watching Shaka Smart coach today and thinking we got the right guy.
Wait ... make sure you refer to him as The Great Shaka Smart.
1-4 in the tournament since the FF run, including to lower seeds the last two years.
Nothing to see here.
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Wait ... make sure you refer to him as The Great Shaka Smart.
1-4 in the tournament since the FF run, including to lower seeds the last two years.
Nothing to see here.
MU got this one right (at least in the end).
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Wait ... make sure you refer to him as The Great Shaka Smart.
1-4 in the tournament since the FF run, including to lower seeds the last two years.
Nothing to see here.
But did they hang the banner for having a top 15 recruiting class?
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Big East 3-0. Because yeah...Lafayette.
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Harvard v UNC
The kids that go to school are giving the kids that don't go to school a real game!
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Harvard v UNC
The kids that go to school are giving the kids that don't go to school a real game!
https://twitter.com/eamonnbrennan/status/577236992431427586
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But did they hang the banner for having a top 15 recruiting class?
When I think blue blood, I think Kentucky, UNC, Duke and VCU. they are all on similar levels with similar success.
On another note, is Purdue young? Regardless if they win or lose this game, they seem like a sound team. Curious if they have most of these guys for another year or two.
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nm
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VCU??? I am assuming UCLA.
Teal is in the offseason, just as MU is.
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https://twitter.com/eamonnbrennan/status/577236992431427586
@eamonnbrennan I look forward to all of the Harvard-UNC cheating jokes that omit Harvard's two-year-old cheating scandal and suspensions
He's right ... UNC figured out you cannot get caught cheating in class if you never go to class.
Will Ammaker stay at Harvard this offseason?
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Harvards last couple possessions were awful, including the one that resulted in the 3 and a foul. Nothing but standing around.
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Wait ... make sure you refer to him as The Great Shaka Smart.
1-4 in the tournament since the FF run, including to lower seeds the last two years.
Nothing to see here.
Shaka is 2-4 in the tournament since the 2011 run.
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Crazy shot rolling around the rim for the Bearcats to send the game to OT.
Now they get to get destroyed by Kentucky.
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watching Shaka Smart coach today and thinking we got the right guy.
No sheet! He went to the final four with Grant's recruits and now Grant is out at 'Bama.
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Man, LSU is fun to watch when they're playing well.
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LSU implodes. Wow.
Gtown looking like they always seem to in March....
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LSU implodes. Wow.
Gtown looking like they always seem to in March....
no kidding, complete meltdown.
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LSU implodes. Wow.
Gtown looking like they always seem to in March....
Jones sitting on his time outs while his team chokes it away...crap shooter.
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This guy lost his trolling privileges.
Well done!
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I'm positive I saw more teams give games away today than I saw teams that "won" games down the stretch.
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Big East 4-0. Where is that Gottlieb guy?
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Big East 4-0. Where is that Gottlieb guy?
Already tweeted at him.
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Already tweeted at him.
Nice, I was actually just thinking about this. The BE doing so well has to have him going nuts. Dude is a credit card stealing Tool.
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Even if the Big East teams don't win another game in the tournament, they've gotten 4 teams in the final 32. That alone makes some of the "Demise of the Big East" talk so overblown.
I won't even get into the Gottlieb/Van Pelt stuff.
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Even if the Big East teams don't win another game in the tournament, they've gotten 4 teams in the final 32. That alone makes some of the "Demise of the Big East" talk so overblown.
I won't even get into the Gottlieb/Van Pelt stuff.
Van Pelt has gotten into Big East hate too??
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http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?29654-Scott-VanPelt-aka-Alien-Head
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I'm positive I saw more teams give games away today than I saw teams that "won" games down the stretch.
Absolutely. But what a day of games. Pretty much all you can ask for as a fan.
I hope today is even better.... mostly because my friends and I take off from work the first Friday of the tournament every year for all day viewing.
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Harvard v UNC
The kids that go to school are giving the kids that don't go to school a real game!
Sure they go to school at UNC--just take phony courses.
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Shaka is 2-4 in the tournament since the 2011 run.
Any school that goes after him deserves what they get.
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http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?29654-Scott-VanPelt-aka-Alien-Head
He's undoing his good graces from his Big Ten basketball comment a few years ago.
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Was at the games in Louisville. 3 great games, Purdue and SMU have to be sick with performances down the stretch.
UK fans are insane. Guy in front of me wanted Calipari to call a TO when Hampton took a 4-3 lead.
Did happen upon some nice seats for session 1.
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Can't wait to watch I4 go down in flames later today.
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Was at the games in Louisville. 3 great games, Purdue and SMU have to be sick with performances down the stretch.
UK fans are insane. Guy in front of me wanted Calipari to call a TO when Hampton took a 4-3 lead.
Did happen upon some nice seats for session 1.
Can't judge uk fans by one guy. Don't forget we have ners and willie
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He's undoing his good graces from his Big Ten basketball comment a few years ago.
It always cracks me up when fanbases get so upset about commentators and their predictions. Just let it play out...ESPECIALLY when it comes to the NCAA tourney.
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Wonder if Gottleib has notes. He's at his best when he misses the boat.
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Gottlieb made me root for Buffalo, the way he was fellating Huggy and the Big 12. And I like and respect Huggy as a coach. Ndiaye (sp?) is a freak for UC Irvine. With the Louisville currently in doubt, the first 7 games of the day have gone according to chalk.
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Gottlieb made me root for Buffalo, the way he was fellating Huggy and the Big 12. And I like and respect Huggy as a coach. Ndiaye (sp?) is a freak for UC Irvine. With the Louisville currently in doubt, the first 7 games of the day have gone according to chalk.
That Ndiaye is the biggest player I have ever seen on a court. 7 ft 6 and 300 lbs. When he set screens at top of the key, I could not see the player getting screened. Too bad he is bit slow, but what a presence under the basket.
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Surprised by the no call to end the Louisville game, especially when there was definite contact and intent to foul. Pitino got away with one. FWIW I think UL would have won even if the call had been made.
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Surprised by the no call to end the Louisville game, especially when there was definite contact and intent to foul. Pitino got away with one. FWIW I think UL would have won even if the call had been made.
Yup--the storied programs do get the calls. Saw something similar yesterday at the end of the No Dick game.
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Yup--the storied programs do get the calls. Saw something similar yesterday at the end of the No Dick game.
It will be interesting to see what kind of calls Wisconsin gets this tournament. Bo's incessant whining and berating has cowed Big 10 officials. Interested to see how unfamiliar refs respond to that.
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Valpo, just like Northeastern, wasted 30 full seconds with a chance to tie and couldn't even get a shot off.
Glad to see the Indiana fall because well, It's Indiana.
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Twenty straight victories by the lower seeded team! Well done committee!
But yesterday was more fun.
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Twenty straight victories by the lower seeded team! Well done committee!
But yesterday was more fun.
And looks like it'll be broken by Dayton beating Providence. What a poopy day.
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Between the refs and the off day for Henton and Dunn, yuck!
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Between the refs and the off day for Henton and Dunn, yuck!
And putting the last at-large team in the tourney in their home state, also yuck!
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It will be interesting to see what kind of calls Wisconsin gets this tournament. Bo's incessant whining and berating has cowed Big 10 officials. Interested to see how unfamiliar refs respond to that.
Watch UW on 'D' and then watch MU on 'D' - you'll easily see why UW gets the calls they do.
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Watch UW on 'D' and then watch MU on 'D' - you'll easily see why UW gets the calls they do.
UW fouls with body and not the arms. Which=a lot less foul calls
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Did anyone else hear three UW players yell "What" when Hayes clearly fouled a guy and was called for it?
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I really hate seeing Steve Alford having success of any kind. UCLA seems to be clicking today though.
Let's go UAB.
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Between the refs and the off day for Henton and Dunn, yuck!
Was not high on PC before the brackets were released. After the draw I fully expected Dayton to take care of them.
Now we get to watch Dayton take on a Oklahoma team I think they can beat and potentially get matched up with Nova. That will turn out to be the game that Nova three's stop falling. Onward with Dayton.
Great. Can't wait :-\
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I really hate seeing Steve Alford having success of any kind. UCLA seems to be clicking today though.
Let's go UAB.
Man, how UCLA got into the tournament is still baffling when you look at their best wins, worst losses, and conference record in a pretty watered down Pac-10.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/UCLA/ucla-bruins (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/UCLA/ucla-bruins)
Interestingly, they played UAB in late November this year, too (won 88-76, which was pretty darn close to the 92-75 final today).
P.S. Didn't watch the game, but imagine they touched on their previous match-up, too.
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Man, how UCLA got into the tournament is still baffling when you look at their best wins, worst losses, and conference record in a pretty watered down Pac-10.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/UCLA/ucla-bruins (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/UCLA/ucla-bruins)
Interestingly, they played UAB in late November this year, too (won 88-76, which was pretty darn close to the 92-75 final today).
P.S. Didn't watch the game, but imagine they touched on their previous match-up, too.
It was pretty much the first thing they mentioned. Their previous match up was the 7th place game in the Battle for Atlantis.
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It was pretty much the first thing they mentioned. Their previous match up was the 7th place game in the Battle for Atlantis.
Thanks. Hmm, I wonder why they even had a game for 7th place. Oh wait, I remember.
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X seizes their opportunity, first BE team in the Sweet 16. Nova down at half. Georgetown has come out looking great vs. Utah.
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Assuming RJ Hunter doesn't go all RJ Hunter on them.
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Guess 'Nova will start hearin' the " overrated" chant pretty quick now, ai na?
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Nova looks awful. Jay Wright won't undo his March choker resume with his team playing like this.
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Meh. My bracket could use a Nova loss. Never was a big believer in them despite MU making them look like the '88 Lakers.
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Nova looks awful. Jay Wright won't undo his March choker resume with his team playing like this.
Live by the three and die by the three--except when they play us!!!
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Georgetown crapped away their 11 point lead in half the time it took to build it. Tied at half.
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Live by the three and die by the three--except when they play us!!!
Like 6 for 22 from three so far and 25% from field, getting pounded on the boards also. Still time, but thats how Nova rolled this year.
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Live by the three and die by the three--except when they play us!!!
Ayup. 3 point shooting teams never seem to last long in the tournament.
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That's 'cuz it's a big man's game, hey?
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Game is eerily similar to MU Davidson
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Boom, go the Novas, ai na?
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Game is eerily similar to MU Davidson
Except for the ending.
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And the Big East still sucks. Thanks Nova >:(
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Welp, that pretty much ruined my night. Damn that sucks.
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Except for the ending.
They didn't complete the choke like Davidson did, but they came close.
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Jay Wright and Nova simply fold like a cheap tent. Every freakin' year.
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Haha our premier team in the big east gets handled by a middle of the pack acc team. Great for our rep. Smh go home nova learn how to play basketball in March
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They didn't complete the choke like Davidson did, but they came close.
Guards' game, right? What happened to Nova?
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Crapshoot, hey?
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And the Big East still sucks. Thanks Nova >:(
Butler with an injured Jones needs some serious prayers against the Domers. Otherwise ACC takes down two BE teams today.
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Jay Wright and Nova simply fold like a cheap tent. Every freakin' year.
To be fair, they did make the Final Four and Elite 8 with Wright.
But hey, it's a crapshoot....anything can happen in a one and done tournament.
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Maybe if we had a point guard like Barber, we'd have been .500 this season, hey?
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m3 minutes ago
Villanova was the best team in the Big East. NC State was one of many quality teams in the ACC. Leagues on different levels nationally.
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No question
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m3 minutes ago
Villanova was the best team in the Big East. NC State was one of many quality teams in the ACC. Leagues on different levels nationally.
Big East 7-2 vs the ACC this year. Including Butler downing North Carolina. Journalists are lazy, unfortunately many people believe them.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m3 minutes ago
Villanova was the best team in the Big East. NC State was one of many quality teams in the ACC. Leagues on different levels nationally.
Idiotic comment by Rothstein.
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But, ACC has Notre Dame in it.
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Big East 7-2 vs the ACC this year. Including Butler downing North Carolina. Journalists are lazy, unfortunately many people believe them.
if a comment like that is all it takes to be a sports "journalist" then I should try for a side career
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The Georgetowns may be next, hey?
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Jay might want to change up his coaching in the dance. They had both of the bigs for NC St in foul trouble and instead of attacking them inside they kept throwing up bricks. Pathetic. It was almost arrogant after a while.
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if a comment like that is all it takes to be a sports "journalist" then I should try for a side career
There are some really good ones out there, but too many that don't do their research. It has become worse with the social media age. Did he make a similar comment about Iowa State losing and the Big 12's strength relative to CUSA and UAB? Iowa State was the Big 12's second best team. Of course not. UCLA shouldn't even be in the tournament, but they are in the Sweet 16 and have a great shot at the Elite 8.
Xavier, the Big East's 6th place team is in the Sweet 16.
It's a crapshoot, anything can happen in a one and done.
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To be fair, they did make the Final Four and Elite 8 with Wright.
But hey, it's a crapshoot....anything can happen in a one and done tournament.
That Final Four run was eons ago. Five straight times they have been knocked out in the first weekend. He is a good recruiter, period.
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The Mo Acker clone from Utah is putting on a pretty good show against the Hoyas.......
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JTIII representin' as well.
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Big East 7-2 vs the ACC this year. Including Butler downing North Carolina. Journalists are lazy, unfortunately many people believe them.
I said the same on Twitter. As always, March is all that matters.
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Guess we should be thankful Georgetown didn't lose to a double digit seed yet again.
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Big East 7-2 vs the ACC this year. Including Butler downing North Carolina. Journalists are lazy, unfortunately many people believe them.
Championships aren't won before the new year begins. Poor showing by the BE for the second year in a row.
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That Final Four run was eons ago. Five straight times they have been knocked out in the first weekend. He is a good recruiter, period.
Brutal. Simply brutal. And agreed that they had the NCSt bigs in foul trouble but the continued to chuck.
Now we're watching JTIII get schooled by Larry Kriskowiak. (Actually, I think Larry is a darn good coach.)
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Championships aren't won before the new year begins. Poor showing by the BE for the second year in a row.
I agree, but Rothstein using one game to compare entire leagues is stupid and he should know better.
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Nova played "that team" that they didn't match up well against. Tall and physical inside as they were out rebounded 45-32, while that hit the game where their guards couldn't hit a three (only Hillard and Booth).
Really bad day for the conference.
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Championships aren't won before the new year begins. Poor showing by the BE for the second year in a row.
Correct, nor does one game define an entire season or conference. Everyone knew the Big East top to bottom was a really good league, the second best league in the country. Many of us also said we wouldn't be surprised if we didn't do great in the NCAA tournament, because that is only taking the best teams from the conference. Where we had very good balance up and down the league, we had no powerhouse team and that includes Nova.
So none of this is surprising, but it's also wrong to say how partial conference does in the tournament determines how good the conference is. Back to the old stand by, was the Horizon League the second best conference in the country back to back years because Butler made it to the finals?
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Guess we should be thankful Georgetown didn't lose to a double digit seed yet again.
No, but that's still 8 straight years they lost to a lower seed in either the NCAA or Big East Tournament.
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At least when Marquette was good we had the decency to get to the sweet 16 and lose to good teams. These big guys in our conference are pitiful.
My conclusion: MU needs to get better so that we don't need to watch these chokers as much.
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I said the same on Twitter. As always, March is all that matters.
To some. I applaud Nova for a great season. They didn't shoot well today, one off day is all that matters.
It's a crapshoot.
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Correct, nor does one game define an entire season or conference. Everyone knew the Big East top to bottom was a really good league, the second best league in the country. Many of us also said we wouldn't be surprised if we didn't do great in the NCAA tournament, because that is only taking the best teams from the conference. Where we had very good balance up and down the league, we had no powerhouse team and that includes Nova.
They were a #1 seed. Stop making excuses for them.
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That Final Four run was eons ago. Five straight times they have been knocked out in the first weekend. He is a good recruiter, period.
If he was only a good recruiter, he wouldn't be going 33-2 with his team this year.
Final Four was 2009....maybe in today's day and age that is eons ago.
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No, but that's still 8 straight years they lost to a lower seed in either the NCAA or Big East Tournament.
I had them losing to EWU, surprised they got past them.
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They were a #1 seed. Stop making excuses for them.
I'm not. They lost today. I said in the first #1 seed to lose that I thought it would be Nova and I also said NC State was scary to me, that was before NC State beat LSU. I did think they would get by NC State and lose the next round. No excuses, they didn't shoot well today and lost.
It's a crapshoot, that's life...it happens every round in this tournament where teams that are supposed to win, don't.
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Nova simply wasn't the kinda team that was a threat to go deep. Seeds be damned.
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Well, to be fair, Nova was outed by the tourney champions last year aka UConn aka the greatest team in the entire country last year, as evidenced by their winning the tournament.
3.......2......1......
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Mississippi St. job is open. Maybe T-Cubed can get his posse to float out his name. Kinda like he did with Illinois, hey?
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For better or worse, conferences are judged in March. Losing at least 4/6 teams the first weekend including our two highest seeds is a bad look.
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For better or worse, conferences are judged in March. Losing at least 4/6 teams the first weekend including our two highest seeds is a bad look.
Exactly. For the second year in a row too.
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For better or worse, conferences are judged in March. Losing at least 4/6 teams the first weekend including our two highest seeds is a bad look.
Fortunately people forget quickly, ACC has been poor the last two tournaments and no one seems to remember.
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The Butlers in a world of hurt, hey?
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Mitch Moss @MitchMossRadio 19m19 minutes ago
HUGE upset by the -4.5 favorites RT @HuffingtonPost: UPSET ALERT: #5 Utah leads #4 Georgetown, 72-62, w/under 30 seconds left! #MarchMasness
Mitch is a sports talk host in LV. Those in the know in Vegas just shake their heads when a publication like the Huffington Post puts out an "upset alert" when its actually the favored team (Utah -4.5 over Gtown) that wins.
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Mitch Moss @MitchMossRadio 19m19 minutes ago
HUGE upset by the -4.5 favorites RT @HuffingtonPost: UPSET ALERT: #5 Utah leads #4 Georgetown, 72-62, w/under 30 seconds left! #MarchMasness
Mitch is a sports talk host in LV. Those in the know in Vegas just shake their heads when a publication like the Huffington Post puts out an "upset alert" when its actually the favored team (Utah -4.5 over Gtown) that wins.
That is really embarrassing. Forget the point spread, which for a guy in the sports world in Vegas should know, but to ever call a 5 over a 4 seed a Huge upset is also mind blowing. Sounds like you have quite a winner out there.
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That is really embarrassing. Forget the point spread, which for a guy in the sports world in Vegas should know, but to ever call a 5 over a 4 seed a Huge upset is also mind blowing. Sounds like you have quite a winner out there.
He was being sarcastic, Chicos.
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Fortunately people forget quickly, ACC has been poor the last two tournaments and no one seems to remember.
The difference is the ACC has a history of success. Everyone views us as the not Big East. We're the conference with a big name and small game. When our teams dominated in non-con, there was a ton of "get back to me in March" commentary. Well, it's March, and we didn't answer the bell. And no matter how well we do next year, this weekend will be all anyone remembers.
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He was being sarcastic, Chicos.
He needs to use teal in his twitter
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The difference is the ACC has a history of success. Everyone views us as the not Big East. We're the conference with a big name and small game. When our teams dominated in non-con, there was a ton of "get back to me in March" commentary. Well, it's March, and we didn't answer the bell. And no matter how well we do next year, this weekend will be all anyone remembers.
The bell is not done tolling....go Butler, go Xavier
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Novas in the acc there 5 seed. Just sayin
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Novas in the acc there 5 seed. Just sayin
Probably a 3 seed. Notre Dame was the 3 seed in the ACC this year....the same team that is in OT right now with Butler.
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Butlers done. One team left , wow the big east was just handled today, face facts this conference hasn't proved its worth with the big boys at all, least Not this year. What a disappointment.
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Butlers done. One team left , wow the big east was just handled today, face facts this conference hasn't proved its worth with the big boys at all, least Not this year. What a disappointment.
They proved it all year long. NCAA tournament is a crapshoot...that's why two 3 seeds go down on the first day, it's part of the deal. Anything can and does happen in March. Never going to change and judging a team or conference based on 2 hours worth of work and wiping out the previous 5 months, is beyond silly. I realize people do it, but Mark Few, Coach K, etc were right...beyond silly.
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Never going to change and judging a team or conference based on 2 hours worth of work and wiping out the previous 5 months, is beyond silly sadly reality.
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One of the numerous things I think you're incorrect on and one of the few things I agree with Chicos completely.
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They proved it all year long. NCAA tournament is a crapshoot...that's why two 3 seeds go down on the first day, it's part of the deal. Anything can and does happen in March. Never going to change and judging a team or conference based on 2 hours worth of work and wiping out the previous 5 months, is beyond silly. I realize people do it, but Mark Few, Coach K, etc were right...beyond silly.
While I 100% agree with you, here's the problem... how do you address the situation? Because, on the whole, the perception of a team/league/coach is based on March success, at least among the general public. And, when it comes down to it (much like politics), that's all that matters.
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While I 100% agree with you, here's the problem... how do you address the situation? Because, on the whole, the perception of a team/league/coach is based on March success, at least among the general public. And, when it comes down to it (much like politics), that's all that matters.
Fortunately none of the things you bring up matter at all to the selection committee. Prior tournament success/failure is not at all a factor when determining who is given an at large invitation.
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Fortunately none of the things you bring up matter at all to the selection committee. Prior tournament success/failure is not at all a factor when determining who is given an at large invitation.
I wasn't referring to NCAA tourney invitations. I was referring to what happens over the entire season, like Chico's (i think) was.
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'Nova was really the only team from the BE in the top 16 this year and they ran into the worst possible type team for them to face. Quickness outside and power inside.
I have said here several times that I didn't think the ratings and stats showed the reality of the conference this year. We had one good team and a lot of mediocrity. We had 6 in the field only because it was the same situation in many other conferences.
For people to say we were the 2nd best conference never made sense. The Big 12 was clearly better. The ACC had 4 or 5 teams better than any in the BE other than Nova.
Even the B10 was better. UW > Nova. Maryland > Butler. MSU > Georgetown.....
So it's not just March success.
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One of the numerous things I think you're incorrect on and one of the few things I agree with Chicos completely.
Perception is formed in March. No one cares that the Big East went 7-1 against the ACC in non-con, they care that we went 0-2 today. I don't like or agree with it, but these games are where reputations are formed and conference strength is determined.
Is it right? No. But it is still what the media and average fan uses as the measuring stick.
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Perception is formed in March. No one cares that the Big East went 7-1 against the ACC in non-con, they care that we went 0-2 today. I don't like or agree with it, but these games are where reputations are formed and conference strength is determined.
Is it right? No. But it is still what the media and average fan uses as the measuring stick.
Yup. Same thing I was stating.
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Many fans and even media don't really pay any attention to college basketball until March. Other than the die-hards, they certainly don't pay much attention until late January or February after the bowl season and the NFL has wound down. So when it comes to the two biggest programs in the Big East, this is what they've seen since their respective last Final Fours:
Villanova Since 2010
2010: Beat (15) Robert Morris in OT, Lose to (10) St. Mary's
2011: Lose to (8) George Mason
2013: Lose to (8) North Carolina
2014: Beat (15) Milwaukee, Lose to (7) Connecticut
2015: Beat (16) Lafayette, Lose to (10) NC State
Georgetown Since 2008
2008: Beat (15) UMBC, Lose to (10) Davidson
2010: Lose to (14) Ohio
2011: Lose to (11) VCU
2012: Beat (14) Belmont, Lose to (11) NC State
2013: Lose to (15) Florida Gulf Coast
2015: Beat (13) Eastern Washington, Lose to (5) Utah
So since the last time those teams really made noise, they are 7-11. The best win either has had is Georgetown over a 13-seed. 7 of the 11 losses came to double-digit seeds. 9 of the 11 losses came to a lower-seeded team. Once is chance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is a trend.
Call it a crapshoot if you want, but all that 98% of the public sees is them crapping the bed.
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Many fans and even media don't really pay any attention to college basketball until March. Other than the die-hards, they certainly don't pay much attention until late January or February after the bowl season and the NFL has wound down. So when it comes to the two biggest programs in the Big East, this is what they've seen since their respective last Final Fours:
You may be right, but also may be over-valuing the importance of what 'most people' think.
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You may be right, but also may be over-valuing the importance of what 'most people' think.
All I'm saying is this is the national perception of our league. We don't have schools like Syracuse, UConn, and Louisville to hang our hats on anymore. If this league is going to be considered anything more than mid-major, we need teams to deliver in March. Honestly, we need our BEST teams to deliver in March. Until that happens, all the articles about how overrated this league is, all the radio troll segments from Van Pelt about how happy they'll be when we crash and burn, all the talk on the Selection Show from the Gottlieb types about how overseeded the Big East is, and all the mid-major talk from the P5 conferences will continue.
And the more we protest and disagree, the more we try to defend the league, the more they'll laugh at us with the dismissive "get back to me in March" comments.
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For the second year in a row, the Big East champion, and tournament champion, have failed to get to the Sweet 16. For the second year in a row, all Big East wins were where they were the higher seed. (No upset wins, but a few upset losses.)
The tournament is how you determine a champion. That's what you play for. It's not a crapshoot because the more favored teams usually win - that is a statistical fact. The conference reputation is deservedly built during these three weeks.
And right now it is rightfully down for the Big East.
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Just saw on Twitter that Marquette has more tournament wins since 2010 (7) than Villanova and Georgetown do combined (5).
This is a huge part of the problem we are facing. There are three teams in this league that currently have a reputation for success in March. One of them is still dancing, one lost in overtime last night, and one is at the bottom of the standings. We need our name programs to win. And if 'Nova and Georgetown can't do it, then I sure hope Wojo can coach in March.
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Preseason, we thought this would be a down year for the BE, even to the extent that quite a few here thought MU could slip into the top half of the conference. Butler was considered a train wreck, CU lost a lot of senior talent, Georgetown had a lot of freshmen, X had to rely on freshmen, Providence lost a good group of seniors and Dunn was coming back after two seasons of surgeries, DePaul was DePaul, SH had a great recruiting class but was unproven, MU was cleaning up after the Dead Poets' Society, and Nova essentially had the same team that flamed out coming back. OOC and in conference, the Big East did better than expectations. The BET was better, and the teams signed some good recruiting classes.
Post-season, Fox Sports (strangely, a B1G deal may help here), the bottom of the conference with two major TV markets and some historically good programs were all major disappointments. Is the round robin play with the smaller conference really good for NCAA success or are we just talking to ourselves? Does the BE need to expand to get more teams in and increase in season competitiveness? (I would say I think the new conference, overall, has also led to a weaker one for other Olympic sports with the loss of Louisville, UCONN, ND and Cuse).
Time for further adjustments but overall, the basketball side performed as expected going into the season with the new teams outperforming and the old teams underperforming. The recruiting classes give some hope. The urban nature of the conference with so many NBA markets and arenas is the best selling point of the conference. Need to exploit that and build off of that.
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If he was only a good recruiter, he wouldn't be going 33-2 with his team this year.
Final Four was 2009....maybe in today's day and age that is eons ago.
In today's society, six years in college ball is eons. And I could be wrong, but going 33-2 with that talent in that conference was 99% due to recruiting. Is Calipari 36-0 due to his coaching or recruiting? Is Roy Williams winning because of coaching or recruiting? Wright has had terrific talent the past five trips to the Dance and has lost to teams with less talent. I completely agree the tournament is a crapshoot but when you crap the bed as many times as Nova and Gtown have something smells.
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They proved it all year long. NCAA tournament is a crapshoot...that's why two 3 seeds go down on the first day, it's part of the deal. Anything can and does happen in March. Never going to change and judging a team or conference based on 2 hours worth of work and wiping out the previous 5 months, is beyond silly. I realize people do it, but Mark Few, Coach K, etc were right...beyond silly.
Six teams creates a big sample size, so when most of the conference disappoints relatively speaking, it's harder to use the 'crapshoot' argument. Both the Big 12 and Big East were overseeded imo, and the Pac 12 and some of the Big Ten teams were underrated.
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While I 100% agree with you, here's the problem... how do you address the situation? Because, on the whole, the perception of a team/league/coach is based on March success, at least among the general public. And, when it comes down to it (much like politics), that's all that matters.
You keep moving forward. What other options are there? Fold up, stop playing basketball? It's the U.S., we have attention spans that last 4 seconds, which means everyone gets in a tizzy in March, but then everyone forgets it in April. There will be years when this conference finishes 5th to 7th and we have two teams make deep runs, and years where we finish 2nd and no teams make a deep run. Just the way it is.
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Six teams creates a big sample size, so when most of the conference disappoints relatively speaking, it's harder to use the 'crapshoot' argument. Both the Big 12 and Big East were overseeded imo, and the Pac 12 and some of the Big Ten teams were underrated.
UCLA shouldn't even be in the tournament and because SMU pulled a Davidson to epic proportions, they advance....it's that quirky that crazy things happen. Now all of a sudden people say the Pac 12 was underrated....why....because SMU crap their pants in the last minute?
Iowa State was playing some of the best basketball in the country in the last three weeks...they had a struggle for 2 hours and lost by 1....now all of a sudden they are overrated?
I get all the arguments and perceptions are reality in many cases, but it also proves the absurdity of it all. Half this country can't identify New York state on a map, why should we be surprised they can't figure out that the course of what happens over 30 seconds of a game doesn't determine the world order in college hoops either.
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Post-season, Fox Sports (strangely, a B1G deal may help here), the bottom of the conference with two major TV markets and some historically good programs were all major disappointments. Is the round robin play with the smaller conference really good for NCAA success or are we just talking to ourselves? Does the BE need to expand to get more teams in and increase in season competitiveness?
These are good questions. I think people like the true round robin because it seems "fair." But I think you are seeing why conferences expand. To get more teams, more games, etc.
I think the membership isn't going to want to divide the television contract another two ways, but I wouldn't be opposed to expansion.
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UCLA shouldn't even be in the tournament and because SMU pulled a Davidson to epic proportions, they advance....it's that quirky that crazy things happen. Now all of a sudden people say the Pac 12 was underrated....why....because SMU crap their pants in the last minute?
Iowa State was playing some of the best basketball in the country in the last three weeks...they had a struggle for 2 hours and lost by 1....now all of a sudden they are overrated?
I get all the arguments and perceptions are reality in many cases, but it also proves the absurdity of it all. Half this country can't identify New York state on a map, why should we be surprised they can't figure out that the course of what happens over 30 seconds of a game doesn't determine the world order in college hoops either.
I agree -- it isn't good this year for the BE, but the media cycle is like 1 day in the tourney. Maybe some ESPN chatter will linger, but thats because that is what ESPN does.
Call it what it is -- Villanova was the one legit team the Big East had in the tourney and they lost too early. The rest of the teams are in the middle -- which means its close to 50/50 that they will win. I was not impressed with Butler this year when MU played them -- but hey they looked great against ND....kinda tells me there is about 4-5 teams that are really good and everyone else is a coin-flip.
The long-term implications are a minor negative -- especially since recruiting and pro entry change the entire landscape of college bball every year.
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Something that has been impressive watching many of these games in the dance has been the PG play. Many of these teams have very good PG's, guys that can handle, shoot the 3, penetrate, and score when needed. Very eye opening looking at these guys as compared to our PG play the last couple years. No doubt that to play at this time of year, a team needs a pretty good PG, something we need to grab immediately to progress.
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Something that has been impressive watching many of these games in the dance has been the PG play. Many of these teams have very good PG's, guys that can handle, shoot the 3, penetrate, and score when needed. Very eye opening looking at these guys as compared to our PG play the last couple years. No doubt that to play at this time of year, a team needs a pretty good PG, something we need to grab immediately to progress.
Such a pivotal position.
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Something that has been impressive watching many of these games in the dance has been the PG play. Many of these teams have very good PG's, guys that can handle, shoot the 3, penetrate, and score when needed. Very eye opening looking at these guys as compared to our PG play the last couple years. No doubt that to play at this time of year, a team needs a pretty good PG, something we need to grab immediately to progress.
Yep. Or hope that young Traci is mature beyond his years. I can even live with it if his shooting as a Frosh is 'just okay'. Just has to be enough that he needs to be guarded. From what I've read his on ball D is pretty solid. That's a pre-req too.
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This Virginia/Michigan State game is a great endorsement for a 30-second shot clock. Absolutely horrible, dull, Oedipus glasses type basketball. How CBS doesn't have at least two games on now is idiotic.
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Well, get used to that ugly, because Bennett will be ensconsed at Wisky when Bo let's go.
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Well, get used to that ugly, because Bennett will be ensconsed at Wisky when Bo let's go.
Very doubtful. It'll be Gard.
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Would take a massive shift for Bennett to go to Madison. The powers that be for Bucky pretty much burned those bridges down with flamethrowers.
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Would take a massive shift for Bennett to go to Madison. The powers that be for Bucky pretty much burned those bridges down with flamethrowers.
Have heard this mentioned before. Bo kept Tony on his staff for 2 seasons. Where is the animosity stemming from?
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All I'm saying is this is the national perception of our league. We don't have schools like Syracuse, UConn, and Louisville to hang our hats on anymore. If this league is going to be considered anything more than mid-major, we need teams to deliver in March. Honestly, we need our BEST teams to deliver in March. Until that happens, all the articles about how overrated this league is, all the radio troll segments from Van Pelt about how happy they'll be when we crash and burn, all the talk on the Selection Show from the Gottlieb types about how overseeded the Big East is, and all the mid-major talk from the P5 conferences will continue.
And the more we protest and disagree, the more we try to defend the league, the more they'll laugh at us with the dismissive "get back to me in March" comments.
Brew is right on, like it or not.
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Maybe we shoulda enticed Marshall a little more last year, ai na? He's got his team playin' very hard and they're talented, hey?
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Maybe we shoulda enticed Marshall a little more last year, ai na? He's got his team playin' very hard and they're talented, hey?
He doesn't want to leave....talked about it last year. Unless something has really changed, he doesn't want the bullshyte that goes along with bigger programs. He's comfortable where he is. I mentioned him here for our coaching search when Crean left...I thought that highly of him back in his Winthrop days when he cam to MU for the First Bank Classic. Very unlikely to be going anywhere, likes his life the way it is.
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Maybe we shoulda enticed Marshall a little more last year, ai na? He's got his team playin' very hard and they're talented, hey?
Apparently he's kind of an odd duck and not very easy to work with. I don't think MU ever looked at him.
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Smart man, like Few. BTW, good thin' we don't aspire to be Dayton too, hey?
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Apparently he's kind of an odd duck and not very easy to work with. I don't think MU ever looked at him.
He'd have fit in perfectly, then. Had our share of those fellas, hey?
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Darren Rovell @darrenrovell 5m5 minutes ago
Wichita State leading scorer Tekele Cotton also recruited by Murray State, Tennessee State & Moorehead State
Wojo knows talent. Keep it going!
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Jim McIlvaine @JimMcIlvaine 3m3 minutes ago Wisconsin, USA
Big12's 7 teams had much higher seeds in #MarchMadness than the Big East. 5 are knocked out so far & Oklahoma has it's hands full.
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What's the Dayton coach got on his head? Looks to be some sorta black bean pasta dish, hey?
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Scoocie Smith-----far out
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Something that has been impressive watching many of these games in the dance has been the PG play. Many of these teams have very good PG's, guys that can handle, shoot the 3, penetrate, and score when needed. Very eye opening looking at these guys as compared to our PG play the last couple years. No doubt that to play at this time of year, a team needs a pretty good PG, something we need to grab immediately to progress.
Isn't Traci Carter a point guard?
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Maybe we shoulda enticed Marshall a little more last year, ai na? He's got his team playin' very hard and they're talented, hey?
I swear someone was saying that he had some stink surrounding him
Anyway, Gregg > Shaka
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Anyway, Gregg > Shaka
Keefe said there was stench
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=43443.0
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Good lunchtime read
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-20-ncaa-tournament-observations-kentucky-wildcats-bob-huggins-west-virginia-mountaineers-arizona-wildcats-gabe-york-dangelo-russell-stanley-johnson-ohio-state-buckeyes-wisconsin-badgers/ (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-20-ncaa-tournament-observations-kentucky-wildcats-bob-huggins-west-virginia-mountaineers-arizona-wildcats-gabe-york-dangelo-russell-stanley-johnson-ohio-state-buckeyes-wisconsin-badgers/)
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Apparently he's kind of an odd duck and not very easy to work with. I don't think MU ever looked at him.
Three G "Greg's" are always a little off, IMHO (like "Jeff's" with a G.....quack quack)
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Good lunchtime read
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-20-ncaa-tournament-observations-kentucky-wildcats-bob-huggins-west-virginia-mountaineers-arizona-wildcats-gabe-york-dangelo-russell-stanley-johnson-ohio-state-buckeyes-wisconsin-badgers/ (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-20-ncaa-tournament-observations-kentucky-wildcats-bob-huggins-west-virginia-mountaineers-arizona-wildcats-gabe-york-dangelo-russell-stanley-johnson-ohio-state-buckeyes-wisconsin-badgers/)
I have to laugh at #4.
"It’s important to remember that the NBA is superior to college basketball in every single way." (This is intentional irony on the author's part.)
Right. Everyone knows that. Just like everyone knows the NFL is better than college football. But that doesn't mean its any more fun.
No one skips work to watch the first two days of the NBA playoffs. No one does NBA playoff brackets. No one sits around to watch an orgy of NBA basketball on three different channels for 12 hours a day on a weekend.
When the tournament is over, the NBA playoffs start and the pro game gets its time. And I *like* the NBA playoffs. But NBA fans need to stop being snobs.
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I have to laugh at #4.
"It’s important to remember that the NBA is superior to college basketball in every single way." (This is intentional irony on the author's part.)
Right. Everyone knows that. Just like everyone knows the NFL is better than college football. But that doesn't mean its any more fun.
No one skips work to watch the first two days of the NBA playoffs. No one does NBA playoff brackets. No one sits around to watch an orgy of NBA basketball on three different channels for 12 hours a day on a weekend.
When the tournament is over, the NBA playoffs start and the pro game gets its time. And I *like* the NBA playoffs. But NBA fans need to stop being snobs.
Great points, Sultan.
It seems the level of play in this year's tournament is especially bad, especially the offensive execution and shot-making. It obviously pales in comparison to what the pros do night-in and night-out -- and especially in the playoffs. But that's why they're pros. Pro actors are better than college theater. Pro violinists generally are better than college violinists. Professional novelists are better than creative writing students. Etc. It doesn't mean collegiate actors, violinists and writers are garbage.
March Madness is an institution ... and at this time of the year, lots of us need to be institutionalized!
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A couple random observations
1. I don't like what adidas has done to brand themselves on some classic uni's
2. I always thought Webber shaved his head because he had male pattern baldness
3. I thought Wichita State - ND would be a better game
4. I thought UW - UNC would be worse
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ND played great as a team while WSU kept chucking up threes. Cotton and Bakker 4 for 20.
First Elite Eight for ND since 1979, despise ND but good for Brey after loss of Mom. Enjoy win cause Kentucky next.
Marshal to Bama probable now.
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Darren Rovell @darrenrovell 4h4 hours ago
Krystkowiak vs Krzyzewski -- longest last name coach matchup (21 letters) this season. Ties Marquette's Wojciechowski vs 3 opponents
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Darren Rovell @darrenrovell 4h4 hours ago
Krystkowiak vs Krzyzewski -- longest last name coach matchup (21 letters) this season. Ties Marquette's Wojciechowski vs 3 opponents
McDermott comes to mind, wonder if he counts for one or two.
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Kevin Looney isn't very impressive playing in the UCLA loss to Gonzaga. He just doesn't do much.
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Kevin Looney isn't very impressive playing in the UCLA loss to Gonzaga. He just doesn't do much.
#dentistissues
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Kevin Looney isn't very impressive playing in the UCLA loss to Gonzaga. He just doesn't do much.
Uhhh....a starting Frosh. When was the last frosh we had that was 6' 9" that did not do that much???????
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Kevin Looney isn't very impressive playing in the UCLA loss to Gonzaga. He just doesn't do much.
Still managed 8 rebounds. Likely his last game anyway, and he'll definitely be cashing NBA paychecks. Great rebounder that could be a very good player if he refines his offensive game. Pretty good 3-point shooter too (41.6%).
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Arizona 1 pt favorite tonight.
Interdasting.
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Bet the mortgage on Bucky, ai na?