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Poll
Question: Would you want Marquette to play in the CBI Tournament?
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
Title: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 12, 2015, 12:57:08 PM
The CBI takes at least a couple teams with losing records every year. I haven't found any 13-19 teams, but Matt Velazquez says there is precedent for it. Would you want Marquette to play in the CBI?

The tournament does require an entry fee, but it's not like Marquette can't afford it with our basketball budget. We didn't play last year because I think everyone was ready to cut bait with the Buzz Williams era and most of the key players weren't coming back.

Would it be good for Duane, Fischer, Jajuan, and the other returning players to get some postseason experience, or do you just want this season to be over and say goodbye to Derrick, Juan, and Carlino once and for all?
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: tower912 on March 12, 2015, 12:59:25 PM
MU won't be asked.   But if they were, I would say yes.   More game reps for the young guys.   
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: MUfan12 on March 12, 2015, 12:59:48 PM
Embarrassing that this question is even being asked. 13-19 teams aren't worthy of playing postseason basketball.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2015, 01:00:47 PM
Sure.  Why the hell not?
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 12, 2015, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 12, 2015, 12:59:25 PM
MU won't be asked.   But if they were, I would say yes.   More game reps for the young guys.  

This.

Plus we'd still be playing so that's always a good thing.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Marquette_g on March 12, 2015, 01:01:37 PM
As much as I want this nightmare of a season to end, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't tune in.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 12, 2015, 01:04:38 PM
Give some time for Duane to pad his freshman stats for all time leading scorer.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: nyg on March 12, 2015, 01:06:09 PM
13 and 19 with your last game losing by almost 40, not gonna happen.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 12, 2015, 01:07:45 PM
Not asking if you think it will happen. Asking if you would want this team to play in the CBI if given the opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me if they asked some teams with losing records before they asked small-conference teams just to get more fan interest.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: nyg on March 12, 2015, 01:08:58 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 12, 2015, 01:07:45 PM
Not asking if you think it will happen. Asking if you would want this team to play in the CBI if given the opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me if they asked some teams with losing records before they asked small-conference teams just to get more fan interest.

Then of course yes.  Then play the youngsters for next year. 
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Nukem2 on March 12, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
Why not.  Give the young guys more experience and confidence.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: LAZER on March 12, 2015, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 12, 2015, 01:07:45 PM
Not asking if you think it will happen. Asking if you would want this team to play in the CBI if given the opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me if they asked some teams with losing records before they asked small-conference teams just to get more fan interest.

Penn St was in last year's field with a losing record.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: hdog1017 on March 12, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
They should only be allowed to play pick up games at the Rec Center
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: NotAnAlum on March 12, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Please let the season end.  In fact in my mind it ended at the end of the SH game.  5 new recruits, maybe more, on to next year!
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Richie on March 12, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
I'm always disappointed when our season ends, so I say yes.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 12, 2015, 01:39:40 PM
I'd say yes, but I seriously doubt we'd be invited after finishing 9th in a 10 team league.

Last year, I'd have said no.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Bill Scholl apparently told Velasquez that its not going to happen.  "Not the right fit."
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Richie on March 12, 2015, 01:42:25 PM
Matt V. tweet says no CBI, per Scholl
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 12, 2015, 01:42:38 PM
Only one of the Mache twins has scored in the post season, so I say yes.

I agree about not wanting to go last year.

This year - give Wojo and the returning guys more time playing/practicing.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: MUfan12 on March 12, 2015, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 12, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Bill Scholl apparently told Velasquez that its not going to happen.  "Not the right fit."

Thank God.

Let the guys rest up, heal up, and get into individual workouts.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2015, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 12, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Bill Scholl apparently told Velasquez that its not going to happen.  "Not the right fit."

Is that code for "we've tortured our alums enough"
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 12, 2015, 01:44:06 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 12, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Bill Scholl apparently told Velasquez that its not going to happen.  "Not the right fit."

I guess it would make MU too SLU like.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Jay Bee on March 12, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
No. Injuries.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 12, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
Can I just say I love the fact that we don't hear a lot about Scholl. A pleasant change from his predecessor. I don't even know where Scholl's kids go to college.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Groin_pull on March 12, 2015, 02:03:45 PM
A 13-19 team has no business being anywhere near a post-season tournament.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 12, 2015, 02:04:13 PM
Moot point now. On the plus side, the next time we see Marquette should be the debut of Henry Ellenson and the 2015 class!
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 12, 2015, 02:10:13 PM
Why waste the money. Teams pay to play in this "tournament."
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: chapman on March 12, 2015, 02:20:57 PM
Nah.  If we had 11 players and plenty of younglings who needed more time I think I'd lean to it.  

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 12, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
Can I just say I love the fact that we don't hear a lot about Scholl. A pleasant change from his predecessor. I don't even know where Scholl's kids go to college.

Agree.  It was oft said here that the preferred AD is one who doesn't need to stand out and seek attention.  When we've had Scholl sightings he's been at the games, and using the time to network with boosters with dollars, recruits, and the conference commissioner.  

Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 12, 2015, 02:29:41 PM
are CBI games even televised/streamed?
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2015, 02:51:24 PM
Even before I read Scholl's feedback...I said no.

To try to win, Wojo would be playing the seniors...not just the young guys to "get them more time" as many here hope.  Also, that time would largely be wasted because the young guys have to get used to playing with a whole new set of guys next year.  Not to mention possible injury for a meaningless tournament.

So...no, no, and no.

Thanks Seniors!  Looking forward to watching again next Oct.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: MUFlutieEffect on March 12, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
The real question: If MU was ever invited, accepted, played in, and WON the CBI, would and/or should Marquette hang a banner...?
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: bilsu on March 12, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 12, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Bill Scholl apparently told Velasquez that its not going to happen.  "Not the right fit."
I find this disappointing. Any tournament experience is good.
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 12, 2015, 05:50:55 PM
Wojo and staff can go 100% on recruiting until March 31. Clear path.  So no
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: bamamarquettefan on March 12, 2015, 06:13:25 PM
as the last school to turn down an NCAA bid, I believe we should turn down the NCAA once again if they put us in the wrong region, and accept and win the CBI!
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 12, 2015, 06:22:38 PM
No they shouldn't turn it down if offered.  Always keep playing.

And the notion there's even a small chance they'll get offered as teams with losing records have previously is a sad commentary on our everyone gets a trophy society that some want to live.  Strong conference RPI or not, they're not worthy of any postseason play this year, and it's an injustice to other teams left out if they would get invited (which they won't).
Title: Re: CBI - Yes or No?
Post by: bamamarquettefan on March 12, 2015, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: MUFlutieEffect on March 12, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
The real question: If MU was ever invited, accepted, played in, and WON the CBI, would and/or should Marquette hang a banner...?

Well, VCU beat st Louis for the title in 2010 and then went final four the next year. The year after Pitt was a 3-seed and lost in the NCAA by fouling butler 80 feet from the basket they went CBI and hung the banner. Then Oregon won it in 2012, went onto a good not run in 2013 and then a good NCAA run last year - so I wouldn't look down on the CBI. Probably just about every team that does go would be favored against us at kenpom. If it's not a good fit I understand, but there are still a lot of good teams left after the NCAA and not pick theirs.
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