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It would be nice to find a guy like this with immediate eligibility, where this year or a pg next year.
What reason is there for a point guard next year?
Quote from: theburreffect2 on January 10, 2015, 06:04:38 PM
What reason is there for a point guard next year?
Who is going to play point next year? Duane? I don't think he is ready for it.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 10, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Who is going to play point next year? Duane? I don't think he is ready for it.
That's a whole year away, and you can't tell me that they're finding someone who will have more experience.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 10, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
That's a whole year away, and you can't tell me that they're finding someone who will have more experience.
Graduate transfer. Juco transfer. And its more than experience.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 10, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Who is going to play point next year? Duane? I don't think he is ready for it.
Duane will have plenty of experience by the end of the year. The ability is all there. The coaches will get it focused properly.
Quote from: Texas Western on January 10, 2015, 07:13:14 PM
Duane will have plenty of experience by the end of the year. The ability is all there. The coaches will get it focused properly.
Well tell that to the coaches who are still recruiting Juco PGs.
Duane will be starting at pg, backed up by nick n. Come on now...
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 10, 2015, 07:14:14 PM
Well tell that to the coaches who are still recruiting Juco PGs.
If they can get guys who can shoot and distribute from the PG postion I am all for it. In the meantime Duane is the man.
I have a feeling we'll add either a JUCO or transfer, but I'm fine if it falls to Duane. He'll have a year of experience and eventually will have to grow into the role. The best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores. Travis made a similar transition when Cordell Henry graduated. Duane could do the same.
If his sister's is a baller named Ivana, you've got a great name and match in Brew Town.
Quote from: MUeng on January 10, 2015, 07:20:48 PM
Duane will be starting at pg, backed up by nick n. Come on now...
What about Haanif Cheatham has the backup PG? If you think this has already been decided, I believe that you are mistaken. Jobs are earned in practice, not in recruiting guru rankings.
Quote from: forgetful on January 10, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
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It would be nice to find a guy like this with immediate eligibility, where this year or a pg next year.
I'm not holding my breath hoping that there is another one out there. Soon the second semester will start and it will be too late for this year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 10, 2015, 08:06:21 PM
I have a feeling we'll add either a JUCO or transfer, but I'm fine if it falls to Duane. He'll have a year of experience and eventually will have to grow into the role. The best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores. Travis made a similar transition when Cordell Henry graduated. Duane could do the same.
I have similar thoughts about Duane. But would still like to see us add a PG with experience to help out.
Quote from: LittleWade on January 10, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
What about Haanif Cheatham has the backup PG? If you think this has already been decided, I believe that you are mistaken. Jobs are earned in practice, not in recruiting guru rankings.
It has been decided. The Sultan said so, thus it has been decided.
Quote from: LittleWade on January 10, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
What about Haanif Cheatham has the backup PG? If you think this has already been decided, I believe that you are mistaken. Jobs are earned in practice, not in recruiting guru rankings.
is haanif known for his dribble and distribute skills? Thought he was more of a shooter recruit, which btw I'd take any day
Quote from: MUeng on January 10, 2015, 09:00:15 PM
is haanif known for his dribble and distribute skills? Thought he was more of a shooter recruit, which btw I'd take any day
Haanif known for being a complete player with lots of court vision who keeps his teammates involved. Can he step into that role as a freshman in the Big East? I don't know, only time will tell.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 10, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Who is going to play point next year? Duane? I don't think he is ready for it.
Well it's a good thing you don't make those decisions.
Quote from: MUeng on January 10, 2015, 09:00:15 PM
more of a shooter recruit, which btw I'd take any day
Are we recruiting Shooter??
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Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on January 10, 2015, 09:18:39 PM
Well it's a good thing you don't make those decisions.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 10, 2015, 08:21:35 PM
It has been decided. The Sultan said so, thus it has been decided.
You two are so busy trying to bite my ankles, you can't figure out that I am basing my assessment of the PG based on who Wojo & Co. are recruiting. They are looking at a bunch of Juco PGs.
It is obvious that they want multiple guards who can handle.
If we get the Duane we saw in the first seven games, I'd be happy with him starting.
If we get the Duane we saw in all the games since then, I'd be wishing for another year of Derrick.
Personally, I think Duane is the man to beat for the starting PG job. If that holds, I think we will be pretty good next season. If we can find an established graduate transfer PG and slide Duane over to the starting SG position, I think we will be a great team.
I think we have three players for next season who are "definite" starters:
Duane
Henry
Luke
The rest of the players are question marks. There's a lot of talent there, I just don't think any of them have established themselves as potential starters. I think if you can find two immediate impact players to fill in the starting PG, SG, or SF postion, you do it. My personal preference would be a graduate transfer PG and Deshawn Freeman (SF from the same juco as DJO). I think the last scholarship should go to a transfer who will end up in the same class as Sandy.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 10, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
You two are so busy trying to bite my ankles, you can't figure out that I am basing my assessment of the PG based on who Wojo & Co. are recruiting. They are looking at a bunch of Juco PGs.
It is obvious that they want multiple guards who can handle.
I have always felt that having multiple guards with good handles is what wins tournament games. Case in point U Conn last year. So I hope Wojo & Co find a few more good ones.
In the meantime the guys we have are going to have to keep growing and maturing. They have talent for sure.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 10, 2015, 10:27:49 PM
If we get the Duane we saw in the first seven games, I'd be happy with him starting.
If we get the Duane we saw in all the games since then, I'd be wishing for another year of Derrick.
Personally, I think Duane is the man to beat for the starting PG job. If that holds, I think we will be pretty good next season. If we can find an established graduate transfer PG and slide Duane over to the starting SG position, I think we will be a great team.
I think we have three players for next season who are "definite" starters:
Duane
Henry
Luke
Yeah I agree with this. Duane will get a lot of time and will likely continue to start. I'm just not sure he is the primary ball handler.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 10, 2015, 10:27:49 PM
If we get the Duane we saw in the first seven games, I'd be happy with him starting.
If we get the Duane we saw in all the games since then, I'd be wishing for another year of Derrick.
Personally, I think Duane is the man to beat for the starting PG job. If that holds, I think we will be pretty good next season. If we can find an established graduate transfer PG and slide Duane over to the starting SG position, I think we will be a great team.
I think we have three players for next season who are "definite" starters:
Duane
Henry
Luke
The rest of the players are question marks. There's a lot of talent there, I just don't think any of them have established themselves as potential starters. I think if you can find two immediate impact players to fill in the starting PG, SG, or SF postion, you do it. My personal preference would be a graduate transfer PG and Deshawn Freeman (SF from the same juco as DJO). I think the last scholarship should go to a transfer who will end up in the same class as Sandy.
JJJ will be much improved by the end of this year. The coaches are making a big impact on his overall game and I see continuous improvement. . He will be an important player in the mix.
Quote from: MUeng on January 10, 2015, 09:00:15 PM
is haanif known for his dribble and distribute skills? Thought he was more of a shooter recruit, which btw I'd take any day
Quote from: Texas Western on January 10, 2015, 09:13:35 PM
Haanif known for being a complete player with lots of court vision who keeps his teammates involved. Can he step into that role as a freshman in the Big East? I don't know, only time will tell.
I don't think that many people (other than Georgetown's coaches) saw L.J. Peak starting for Georgetown at PG as a freshman. All the recruiting services (and Georgetown's basketball roster for that mater) had/have him listed as a forward.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 10, 2015, 10:27:49 PM
If we get the Duane we saw in the first seven games, I'd be happy with him starting.
If we get the Duane we saw in all the games since then, I'd be wishing for another year of Derrick.
Personally, I think Duane is the man to beat for the starting PG job. If that holds, I think we will be pretty good next season. If we can find an established graduate transfer PG and slide Duane over to the starting SG position, I think we will be a great team.
I think we have three players for next season who are "definite" starters:
Duane
Henry
Luke
The rest of the players are question marks. There's a lot of talent there, I just don't think any of them have established themselves as potential starters. I think if you can find two immediate impact players to fill in the starting PG, SG, or SF postion, you do it. My personal preference would be a graduate transfer PG and Deshawn Freeman (SF from the same juco as DJO). I think the last scholarship should go to a transfer who will end up in the same class as Sandy.
And Duane. Remember last year was a redshirt year for Duane, so he and Sandy are now classmates.
Quote from: Texas Western on January 10, 2015, 09:13:35 PM
Haanif known for being a complete player with lots of court vision who keeps his teammates involved. Can he step into that role as a freshman in the Big East? I don't know, only time will tell.
If he isn't playing the Point in HS, he cannot do it as a freshman at MU. Simple as that.
Quote from: brandx on January 11, 2015, 11:22:47 AM
If he isn't playing the Point in HS, he cannot do it as a freshman at MU. Simple as that.
That's not necessarily true. A lot of recruits played off the ball simply because their size was needed in other positions. If I remember correctly, MCW played the post for his high school team. But yes, I would have concerns about Haanif playing PG without much experience.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 10, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
You two are so busy trying to bite my ankles, you can't figure out that I am basing my assessment of the PG based on who Wojo & Co. are recruiting. They are looking at a bunch of Juco PGs.
It is obvious that they want multiple guards who can handle.
Ummm...frog legs!
Quote from: Texas Western on January 10, 2015, 10:34:15 PM
JJJ will be much improved by the end of this year. The coaches are making a big impact on his overall game and I see continuous improvement. . He will be an important player in the mix.
To me, JjJ is Vander Blue without the defense. A very poor shooting slashing guard. Vander improved his shot dramatically between his sophomore and junior seasons. Hopefully, JjJ can do the same.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 11, 2015, 02:17:33 PM
To me, JjJ is Vander Blue without the defense. A very poor shooting slashing guard. Vander improved his shot dramatically between his sophomore and junior seasons. Hopefully, JjJ can do the same.
JJJ needs to be on the 25,000 shot program this summer . He gets wide open and needs to make the shots. He is an excellent free throw shooter so I think the base is there. I have a lot of confidence in our coaches ability to brim out the best in him.
He still has that hitch in his shot. That hitch must be addressed.
Having too much talent is rarely a problem.
I would welcome the addition of a talented PG next year to go along with Duane, NN and anyone else.
PG, especially, is one of those positions where it's hard to have too many. Even if Duane wins the job and looks fantastic, if he suffers an injury we'd sure wish we had another.
Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2015, 02:42:17 PM
He still has that hitch in his shot. That hitch must be addressed.
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Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2015, 05:55:59 PM
Having too much talent is rarely a problem.
I would welcome the addition of a talented PG next year to go along with Duane, NN and anyone else.
PG, especially, is one of those positions where it's hard to have too many. Even if Duane wins the job and looks fantastic, if he suffers an injury we'd sure wish we had another.
What are you talking about? I think having Luke play the point much like Marcus Jackson did to so much success after Travis Diener broke his hand using tackling dummies in practice is a great idea. "Cutting edge" I believe us the term that was used for implementing tackling dummies into a basketball practice. I can think of a million ways where the ability to properly tackle someone would come into play in basketball. Truly cutting edge.
Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2015, 02:42:17 PM
He still has that hitch in his shot. That hitch must be addressed.
Agreed. The coaches will smooth it out.