http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/101958/top10thursday-most-disappointing-teams
Fortunately, the editors are on the ball over at ESPN.com this morning. I managed to get my hands on the original post Myron submitted for publication:
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#Top10Thursday: Most disappointing teams
January, 8, 2015
By Myron Medcalf | ESPN.com
So, this isn't one of those feel-good lists. If your favorite team is mentioned here, it's not a good thing.
We're nearly halfway through the season. There's plenty of time for change -- for better or worse.
As of now, however, the following are the 10 most disappointing programs in 2014-15.
But first, here are three teams that barely missed the cut:
Syracuse -- Recent news that DaJuan Coleman will not play this season because of an injury only added to Cuse's woes. The Orange offense, in terms of efficiency, hasn't been this bad in more than a decade. But a 2-0 start to ACC play after Wednesday's gutsy win over Georgia Tech could mean Jim Boeheim's squad has found its mojo.
Florida -- The Gators have played a top-10 schedule and only suffered one bad loss on a freakish ending against Florida State. They essentially lost their starting five from last season and the leadership that those veterans provided.
Connecticut -- Yes, the Huskies are 2-5 against the BPI's top-100. That's not good for the defending national champs, but they're still ranked 20th in adjusted defensive efficiency. And those back-to-back one-point losses to Yale and Texas were the result of wacky last-second shots.
Marquette -- I'm from Milwaukee, and I saw a picture of Al McGuire once. Needless to say, I am disappointed in the Warriors (I'm from Milwaukee, so I don't have to apologize for calling Marquette by it's old nickname). I had them picked to finish last in the Big East, and here they are in seventh place. Irregardless, their sole conference win against Providence on the road would otherwise help there tournament resume if not for the fact they lost to DePaul in a home game at the US Cellular Arena. By the way, I'm from Milwaukee, so forgive my referring to an arena by it's old monikker.
Agree with this list? Disagree? Tell us on Twitter by using #Top10Thursday.
1. North Carolina Tar Heels
The bar can't change midseason. Before 2014-15 commenced, the talk around the Tar Heels centered on a possible Final Four run, national title contention and a challenge to Duke for the ACC crown. Maybe even winning it. The Tar Heels have lofty efficiency numbers, but you're supposed to beat Butler, Iowa (home) and Notre Dame (home) -- at least two of the three -- if you're a legit title contender. North Carolina hasn't met expectations yet.
2. Kansas State Wildcats
Has anyone heard from the Wildcats lately? With Marcus Foster (6-for-20 in the last three games), who cracked the first team of the preseason all-Big 12 squad, anchoring a unit that reached the NCAA tourney last season, it appeared that Bruce Weber's squad would slide into the conference mix at some point. Guess there's still time, but Kansas State's five sub-50 losses (BPI) and current three-game losing streak aren't exactly inspiring.
3. Michigan Wolverines
John Beilein usually finds a way. That's been the norm for the Wolverines. Nik Stauskas followed Trey Burke. And Caris LeVert entered this season as the next NBA-level wing for the Wolverines. But LeVert doesn't play power forward or center, so he can't help Michigan with its issues in the paint -- 323rd in offensive rebounding rate after Mitch McGary turned pro and Jon Horford transferred -- and that's a major problem for a program that has losses to Eastern Michigan and NJIT, and is ranked 75th in adjusted defensive efficiency.
4. Colorado Buffaloes
Here's the weird thing. This is essentially the same team that reached the NCAA tournament after Spencer Dinwiddie suffered a season-ending knee injury last season. The Buffaloes don't have any signature wins, and Hawaii is the worst of their six losses. Their offense is ranked 127th in adjusted efficiency. They're not a Pac-12 sleeper. They're just asleep.
5. Massachusetts Minutemen
What the heck is happening in Amherst? Yes, the Minutemen lost Chaz Williams, who obviously meant a lot to the program. That's not a legit excuse, though. They've lost to St. Bonaventure (No. 113 in BPI) by 14 and Florida Gulf Coast (No. 170 in BPI) by nine. They're 3-6 in their last nine. This is a sharp decline from last season when they were one of the nation's early surprises.
6. Harvard Crimson
Tommy Amaker's team has built a strong rep with three consecutive NCAA tournament appearances and back-to-back advances to the second round. The expectations have changed with that success, though. And the Crimson haven't met them. They began the year at No. 25 in the preseason AP poll. And then they lost to Holy Cross (No. 269 in BPI), Virginia (by 49 points!) and Arizona State by double digits.
7. Nebraska Cornhuskers
The Cornhuskers (No. 108 in BPI) were ranked in the preseason after last year's run to the Big Dance, the program's first since 1998. Things looked good this offseason, and then a mediocre offense got worse (259th in adjusted offensive efficiency per Ken Pomeroy). And they're committing turnovers on 21 percent of their possessions. NBA prospect Terran Petteway is committing 3.8 turnovers per game.
8. Memphis Tigers
Josh Pastner is a nice guy. But that doesn't mean a thing if your program is underachieving. Yes, Memphis lost a veteran backcourt that played a significant role for the Tigers in recent years. But Shaq Goodwin and Austin Nichols form a solid frontcourt. You just don't expect to see any Memphis team get whipped by every solid squad on its schedule to date (24-point loss to Baylor in November) while also suffering losses to Stephen F. Austin and Tulane.
9. UCLA Bruins
When Steve Alford accepted a big contract to lead the Bruins, he also accepted the responsibility of pumping out respectable units, even though UCLA is one of a few blue-chip programs that are perennially stripped of talent by the one-and-done culture. Still, Kevon Looney is a lottery pick. Alford's son, Bryce, is a solid guard. Norman Powell and Tony Parker are good. But the Bruins are ranked 134th in adjusted offensive efficiency. Yes, the Bruins have faced the No. 6 strength of schedule in the country, but they've also been embarrassed (five consecutive losses, including a 32-point loss at Utah over the weekend) against that slate.
10. Michigan State Spartans
First, the good. Michigan is now ninth in adjusted defensive efficiency, per Ken Pomeroy. The Spartans can compete in the Big Ten with top-10 defense. Now, the bad. Well, there was the Texas Southern loss (Branden Dawson didn't play). They're 3-4 against the BPI top 100. They just crushed an Indiana team that was also a candidate for this list. That's promising, but their challenges on offense are not.
Dreadful journalism. 1) De Paul game was in Chicago; 2) Providence game was at home; and 3) MU no longer plays at the arena. 30 seconds of research, on the ESPN website, would have yielded all of this information. Does he hold a paid position?
He used "irregardless." Tar and feathers are too good for him.
Myron is still a moron. Marquette doesn't play in the Cell (which is the same thing he said this spring).
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10987296/looking-bad-head-coaching-jobs-college-basketball
Dude has a serious hang up about Marquette.
Picked MU last, they are currently 7th, every conceivable fact wrong......this guys is just sad.
Just when you think Myron couldn't get any dumber
It's been edited and Marquette was taken out.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 08, 2015, 10:18:12 AM
It's been edited and Marquette was taken out.
Editor probably decided to fact check him for once
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2015, 10:12:51 AM
Just when you think Myron couldn't get any dumber
You have to wonder if Myron is intentionally trolling MU fans at this point. I'm a firm believer in Hanlon's razor but this is too dumb to be accidental.
Quote from: jficke13 on January 08, 2015, 10:08:53 AM
He used "irregardless." Tar and feathers are too good for him.
Ha! I was thinking the same thing.
It's not a word and people still use.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMMarquette -- I'm from Milwaukee, and I saw a picture of Al McGuire once.
Seems like trolling MU fans for living in the glow of 1977.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMNeedless to say, I am disappointed in the Warriors (I'm from Milwaukee, so I don't have to apologize for calling Marquette by it's old nickname).
More trolling?
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMI had them picked to finish last in the Big East, and here they are in seventh place.
So wouldn't that be good?
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMIrregardless,
Not a word.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMtheir sole conference win against Providence on the road
That game was at home.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMwould otherwise help there tournament resume
That's the wrong "there".
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMif not for the fact they lost to DePaul in a home game
It was on the road.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMat the US Cellular Arena.
We don't play there.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMBy the way, I'm from Milwaukee,
Yeah, third time he said "I'm from Milwaukee", it is either trolling or someone at ESPN hacked his page to troll him.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMso forgive my referring to an arena by it's
Wrong use of it's.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 10:02:42 AMold monikker.
Moniker is misspelled.
So that's seven errors in one paragraph, three "I'm from Milwaukee" quotes, and complaining about a team that he picked 10th for being in 7th. Either Myron is trolling Marquette fans or someone else hacked this and is trolling Myron. At a cursory read, I didn't notice any other glaring grammatical errors, so this has to be a troll one way or the other.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 08, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
So that's seven errors in one paragraph, three "I'm from Milwaukee" quotes, and complaining about a team that he picked 10th for being in 7th. Either Myron is trolling Marquette fans or someone else hacked this and is trolling Myron. At a cursory read, I didn't notice any other glaring grammatical errors, so this has to be a troll one way or the other.
Well done on the troll job Benny. This is the first person that picked up on it.
He got one thing right - three of his ten most disappointing teams are from the BIG.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 08, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
Seems like trolling MU fans for living in the glow of 1977.
So that's seven errors in one paragraph, three "I'm from Milwaukee" quotes, and complaining about a team that he picked 10th for being in 7th. Either Myron is trolling Marquette fans or someone else hacked this and is trolling Myron. At a cursory read, I didn't notice any other glaring grammatical errors, so this has to be a troll one way or the other.
He says "here are 3 teams that barely missed the cut" and then mentions 4, with Marquette being the last one as if someone added it at the end.
On the Sky Zone robbery article, they have inside as "incide". Maybe they have just completely given up at this point, ready to close the doors when their building comes down for the new Arena.
That's brutal.
Somebody send it to deadspin. They might pick it up.
I have staff who aren't strong enough writers to submit written work to clients without my review. Their grammar, accuracy, and presentation are light years ahead of this moron. Yet ESPN still employs him, and publishes this pollution on a website with heavy traffic before it bothers to edit?
Guys as brewcity pointed out...Benny did this. He's the troll.
Goshdammit Benny
The troll by Benny was to real.
Ugh.
This guy has consistently been against Marquette over the years. Everyone should email him with the editorial corrections.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 08, 2015, 10:59:51 AM
Guys as brewcity pointed out...Benny did this. He's the troll.
I'm so damn gullible. Damn you Benny
Nice troll Benny.
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nm
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 08, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
At a cursory read, I didn't notice any other glaring grammatical errors, so this has to be a troll one way or the other.
I had considered doing just that add a certain level of consistency/authenticity, but I figured that leaving the rest of it as is would have made my satirical intent clear without reasonably requiring the use of any teal. Never have I been so deviously proud of myself to extend a
mea culpa, so here goes:
My bad.
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PS: Bwah haha hahahahhahaha.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
I had considered doing just that add a certain level of consistency/authenticity, but I figured that leaving the rest of it as is would have made my satirical intent clear without reasonably requiring the use of any teal. Never have I been so deviously proud of myself to extend a mea culpa, so here goes:
My bad.
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PS: Bwah haha hahahahhahaha.
BTW, you caught Paint Touches.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 08, 2015, 10:09:31 AM
Myron is still a moron. Marquette doesn't play in the Cell (which is the same thing he said this spring).
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10987296/looking-bad-head-coaching-jobs-college-basketball
Dude has a serious hang up about Marquette.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2013/story/_/page/expertMedcalf130325/2013-ncaa-tournament-how-selection-committee-reseed-sweet-16
There was also this gem. Good ole' Myron had MU at 16th, 3 spots behind a 15 seed. Rick Majerus must have ate his lunch or something.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
I had considered doing just that add a certain level of consistency/authenticity, but I figured that leaving the rest of it as is would have made my satirical intent clear without reasonably requiring the use of any teal. Never have I been so deviously proud of myself to extend a mea culpa, so here goes:
My bad.
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PS: Bwah haha hahahahhahaha.
I, for one, applaud you sir ;)
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Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
I had considered doing just that add a certain level of consistency/authenticity, but I figured that leaving the rest of it as is would have made my satirical intent clear without reasonably requiring the use of any teal. Never have I been so deviously proud of myself to extend a mea culpa, so here goes:
My bad.
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PS: Bwah haha hahahahhahaha.
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How did you all fall for that so hard? Jeez scoop. Step it up!
Quote from: MarkusSharkus on January 08, 2015, 12:52:07 PM
How did you all fall for that so hard? Jeez scoop. Step it up!
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Quote from: MarkusSharkus on January 08, 2015, 12:52:07 PM
How did you all fall for that so hard? Jeez scoop. Step it up!
Truly good satire is both unbelievable and plausible at the same time. Not sure if our gulliblility is a compliment to Benny's wit, or a pretty awful commentary on Myron's "journalism."
ESPN is on a roll in the past 10 days with subtle jabs at the Big East.
1.) On NYE, Stu Jackson hilariously called out ESPN on Twitter because they had a graphic showing the "top basketball conferences in the country" and their respective records and winning percentage in out of conference games. It listed the Big 12, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and SEC (in that order). The Big East is 2nd (ahead of the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and SEC) in OOC winning percentage. Whether it was irresponsible journalism or a bias against a non-ESPN property, it was not-factual and incorrect.
2.) On Monday, Jeff Goodman said in his Insider-only blog on ESPN, ""There were minimal expectations entering the season, but now everyone is touting the league as one of the elite after a strong non-league performance. However, I'm still not buying that it's one of the top three leagues in the country." Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but considering his employer, and the lack of facts that he and his colleagues use in creating their stance, the viewpoint is just plain wrong. The Big East is a top-5 conference in terms of SOS, RPI and OOC winning percentage.
3.) Now, on to Myron's article. He incorrectly says that Marquette plays at the wrong arena, lists the DePaul game as a "home" game, and says that the Providence game was a road game, all facts that could easily be checked with a simple 5-minute search.
ESPN (regarding the Big East) is either a irresponsible news outlet, repeatedly ignoring facts that show the Big East as an elite basketball conference, or they and their journalists are a biased media source against the league since they no longer own the rights to broadcast the games (since they unsuccessfully tried to destroy the league in the 2005-2013 rounds of expansion) and will do everything they can to de-legitimize and ignore the league and it's teams.
In either case, I am so thankful and glad that we are now on Fox Sports 1. They have done an excellent job marketing our league (running ads during Fox NFL playoffs and seeing Marquette and the other schools in a commercial was awesome), the fact we have Bill Raferty and Gus Johnson doing games makes it all the better.
ESPN can enjoy showing Tulane/East Carolina, Tulsa/UCF, Houston/USF on ESPN 2 and ESPNU. The amount of empty seats at those games on TV made Allstate Arena look like Madison Square Garden.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on January 08, 2015, 01:00:35 PM
3.) Now, on to Myron's article. He incorrectly says that Marquette plays at the wrong arena, lists the DePaul game as a "home" game, and says that the Providence game was a road game, all facts that could easily be checked with a simple 5-minute search.
This "example" could have also been easily checked with a simple 30-second search.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on January 08, 2015, 01:00:35 PM
ESPN is on a roll in the past 10 days with subtle jabs at the Big East.
1.) On NYE, Stu Jackson hilariously called out ESPN on Twitter because they had a graphic showing the "top basketball conferences in the country" and their respective records and winning percentage in out of conference games. It listed the Big 12, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and SEC (in that order). The Big East is 2nd (ahead of the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and SEC) in OOC winning percentage. Whether it was irresponsible journalism or a bias against a non-ESPN property, it was not-factual and incorrect.
2.) On Monday, Jeff Goodman said in his Insider-only blog on ESPN, ""There were minimal expectations entering the season, but now everyone is touting the league as one of the elite after a strong non-league performance. However, I'm still not buying that it's one of the top three leagues in the country." Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but considering his employer, and the lack of facts that he and his colleagues use in creating their stance, the viewpoint is just plain wrong. The Big East is a top-5 conference in terms of SOS, RPI and OOC winning percentage.
3.) Now, on to Myron's article. He incorrectly says that Marquette plays at the wrong arena, lists the DePaul game as a "home" game, and says that the Providence game was a road game, all facts that could easily be checked with a simple 5-minute search.
ESPN (regarding the Big East) is either a irresponsible news outlet, repeatedly ignoring facts that show the Big East as an elite basketball conference, or they and their journalists are a biased media source against the league since they no longer own the rights to broadcast the games (since they unsuccessfully tried to destroy the league in the 2005-2013 rounds of expansion) and will do everything they can to de-legitimize and ignore the league and it's teams.
In either case, I am so thankful and glad that we are now on Fox Sports 1. They have done an excellent job marketing our league (running ads during Fox NFL playoffs and seeing Marquette and the other schools in a commercial was awesome), the fact we have Bill Raferty and Gus Johnson doing games makes it all the better.
ESPN can enjoy showing Tulane/East Carolina, Tulsa/UCF, Houston/USF on ESPN 2 and ESPNU. The amount of empty seats at those games on TV made Allstate Arena look like Madison Square Garden.
Proof that people don't read threads before responding to them.
Wow, Medcalf himself is even easier to troll than Scoopers. Just call him a gutless sycophant and watch the bitch claws come out ;D
Wow. Where did ESPN dig up that clown?
Quote from: Groin_pull on January 08, 2015, 02:08:39 PM
Wow. Where did ESPN dig up that clown?
http://regressing.deadspin.com/espn-college-hoops-writer-makes-terrible-bold-predicti-1555200016
http://www.pundittracker.com/pundits/profile/myron-medcalf
http://www.threesixtyjournalism.org/noknucklehead
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Quote from: jficke13 on January 08, 2015, 10:08:53 AM
He used "irregardless." Tar and feathers are too good for him.
+1 million
I just tweeted at him multiple times to let him know what a disgrace to journalism he is. I saw he has already engaged with a few other angry Marquette fans lol. What a joke.
Quote from: Bradley Brew on January 08, 2015, 02:37:30 PM
I just tweeted at him multiple times to let him know what a disgrace to journalism he is. I saw he has already engaged with a few other angry Marquette fans lol. What a joke.
Read the thread people.
Leave poor Myron alone.
Releasing that seriously has to be grounds for termination, all kidding aside.
The troll will not die! haha
Oh Benny, this is so epic that I think it may make it's way into a meme. You have managed to troll the MUScoop community so hard that they are going after the journalist on twitter.....all this AFTER admitting you were a troll. This is some next level s#$t and it really makes me question the intelligence of our internet fan base
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Quote from: mu03eng on January 08, 2015, 03:06:48 PM
Oh Benny, this is so epic that I think it may make it's way into a meme. You have managed to troll the MUScoop community so hard that they are going after the journalist on twitter.....all this AFTER admitting you were a troll. This is some next level s#$t and it really makes me question the intelligence of our internet fan base
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Haha yup.
I wrote him a strongly worded email, and this is what I got back. What a doucher.
"Thanks for the page views. Only helps me in the long run! As far as your issues with my writing, well, your displaying a lot of classic traits of the typical MU fan. You can't take any criticism at all, and you act like it's still the 70's. It's not the 70's, my friend. Its is the 20th century! MU is a really nice mid-major program. Occasionally, theyll get some good players and make a run at a tournament bid, and that's great. But, they are never going to be able to compete with the large conferences. I'm sorry, they just don't have the budget for it. MU doesn't have the money or the infrastructure to compete with the major schools. Anyways, thanks again for the read, and good luck to MU this season."
This was good...and totally believable based on his column last May. I had an angry email typed up to Myron before I scanned a little further in the thread. Well done, sir.
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on January 08, 2015, 03:31:27 PM
I'm sorry, they just don't have the budget for it. MU doesn't have the money or the infrastructure to compete with the major schools. Anyways, thanks again for the read, and good luck to MU this season."
Uhhhh...
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 08, 2015, 02:39:30 PMRead the thread people.
Leave poor Myron alone.
Poor Myron admitted today that he's a troll rather than a journalist, basically the online CBB version of Skip Bayless. Forgive me for my lack of sympathy.
Any chance Myron is also Hoopaloop?
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on January 08, 2015, 03:31:27 PM
I wrote him a strongly worded email, and this is what I got back. What a doucher.
"Thanks for the page views. Only helps me in the long run! As far as your issues with my writing, well, your displaying a lot of classic traits of the typical MU fan. You can't take any criticism at all, and you act like it's still the 70's. It's not the 70's, my friend. Its is the 20th century! MU is a really nice mid-major program. Occasionally, theyll get some good players and make a run at a tournament bid, and that's great. But, they are never going to be able to compete with the large conferences. I'm sorry, they just don't have the budget for it. MU doesn't have the money or the infrastructure to compete with the major schools. Anyways, thanks again for the read, and good luck to MU this season."
Can't tell if more trolls...
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How in the world did Myron Medcalf's completely biased coverage of the gophers in the Star Tribune land him a leading job covering Mens basketball at ESPN? There wasn't a game or player he didn't like and Minn was always one of the best teams in the conf even if they didn't have the record to back it up.
2 years ago i added this blurb in a mike hunt thread. Nostradamus? i think so. He is bad.
And i got this as a reply from MuFan2:
What in the f are you talking about, Schmidty?
I twittered at him "how can you be so ignorant about #mubb to write stuff like this?"
His response "Sometimes programs and their fans need to recognize their true value"
Jerk
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on January 08, 2015, 03:31:27 PM
I wrote him a strongly worded email, and this is what I got back. What a doucher.
"Thanks for the page views. Only helps me in the long run! As far as your issues with my writing, well, your displaying a lot of classic traits of the typical MU fan. You can't take any criticism at all, and you act like it's still the 70's. It's not the 70's, my friend. Its is the 20th century! MU is a really nice mid-major program. Occasionally, theyll get some good players and make a run at a tournament bid, and that's great. But, they are never going to be able to compete with the large conferences. I'm sorry, they just don't have the budget for it. MU doesn't have the money or the infrastructure to compete with the major schools. Anyways, thanks again for the read, and good luck to MU this season."
A troll within a troll, Leo would be proud.
Quote from: LAMUfan on January 08, 2015, 03:46:08 PM
Can't tell if more trolls...
It has to be. Has. To. Be.
If not (playing devil's advocate just for giggles) some highlights: 1) he essentially adopted Benny's troll as his own work even though he didn't write it; 2) your vs. you're; 3) 20th century.
Quote from: mu03eng on January 08, 2015, 03:52:48 PM
I twittered at him "how can you be so ignorant about #mubb to write stuff like this?"
His response "Sometimes programs and their fans need to recognize their true value"
Jerk
I take that to mean he doesn't value the quality of his own work, or that he's lazy. Certain programs deserve his hard work, and certain ones don't...deal with it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 08, 2015, 03:40:55 PM
Poor Myron admitted today that he's a troll rather than a journalist, basically the online CBB version of Skip Bayless. Forgive me for my lack of sympathy.
Link?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2015, 04:03:25 PM
Link?
Brewcity77 right now
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Quote from: JoeSmith1721 on January 08, 2015, 03:53:14 PM
A troll within a troll, Leo would be proud.
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Best thread of the new year!
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2015, 04:03:25 PMLink?
You can get to the full conversation through my Twitter account, @brewcity77, but here's the salient bits:
Quote from: @MedcalfByESPNFor the record, I still don't think Marquette is a great job.
Quote from: @brewcity77Only because you're a gutless sycophant, embracing the anti-BE bias from ESPN
Quote from: @MedcalfByESPNI bathe in that bias. I eat it for breakfast. It consumes me...So many Milwaukee haters. I know your type.
Quote from: @brewcity77You are admitting to being a troll that seeks out bias to justify his actions. That's just pathetic.
Quote from: @brewcity77Your job is to accurately and fairly report, instead you make uninformed, poorly researched statements & call it journalism.
Quote from: @MedcalfByESPNDon't tell me what my job is. I don't work for you, Alan. And I'm allowed to offer opinions in various formats.
Quote from: @brewcity77Oh, did I strike a nerve? Poor Myron, he gets defensive when people call him on his BS.
So pretty much what I gather, he is saying he puts BS comments out there just to get a reaction and to incite bias and his job is NOT to accurately and fairly report (hello, Skip). He's just a paid troll.
OK just to summarize for everyone what has gone down in this thread/real life
Benny trolled MUScoop with a fake addition to a Myron Medcalf article
Scoopers, including myself, thought it was real
Some people thought it was so real they "attacked" Medcalf on twitter
Meanwhile in this thread other people retrolled with follow on "emails" and "twitter exchanges", including myself
This further enraged Scoopers who don't read the whole thread
Meanwhile, Medcalf is goaded on twitter into saying he thinks MU is a bad job
Brewcity gets in a twitter "altercation" with Myron in which Myron outs himself as an ESPN troll ala Skip Bayless
I think we can close down the internet for the day, our work here is done.
Inception type stuff going on
Quote from: Michael Kenyon on January 08, 2015, 04:23:06 PM
Best thread of the new year!
This is the best thread going back a few years.
Man, Benny should be King of Scoop for a month after this. This is some pretty damn impressive work.
Still doesn't change my attitude towards Metcalf, who probably has his Marquette rejection letter framed above his desk in his den.
Quote from: mu03eng on January 08, 2015, 03:06:48 PM
Oh Benny, this is so epic that I think it may make it's way into a meme. You have managed to troll the MUScoop community so hard that they are going after the journalist on twitter.....all this AFTER admitting you were a troll. This is some next level s#$t and it really makes me question the intelligence of our internet fan base
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On the contrary, Eng, I think it speaks to the intelligence - or at the very least, cognizance - of our fan base; after all, had none of us been tuned into the reality of just how ignominious Medcalf's writing actually is, this thread would had the lifespan of a first time poster's broken English thread-itorial about Gucci knockoffs.
The inherent genius of parody eminates from the audience; the author is, at best, merely a muse. And indeed, I am amused.
Quote from: Benny B on January 08, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
On the contrary, Eng, I think it speaks to the intelligence - or at the very least, cognizance - of our fan base; after all, had none of us been tuned into the reality of just how ignominious Medcalf's writing actually is, this thread would had the lifespan of a first time poster's broken English thread-itorial about Gucci knockoffs.
The inherent genius of parody eminates from the audience; the author is, at best, merely a muse. And indeed, I am amused.
Stephen King, is that you?
The fact that he keeps defending himself is laughable. Has anyone mentioned Ellenson to him yet?
And people...still...don't...get...it.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 08, 2015, 07:04:48 PM
And people...still...don't...get...it.
That's also the funny part. One epic troll job by Benny. Medcalf also bit with brew.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 08, 2015, 10:59:51 AM
Guys as brewcity pointed out...Benny did this. He's the troll.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny. Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny. Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.
And I think that's the biggest issue. Is that Myron is so bad at what he does. Bennys troll job was so believable to a lot here. That speaks volumes of the content Medcalf puts out.
Myron is a complete jag and we should all let him know what a douche he is. F that guy.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 08, 2015, 05:55:42 PM
This is the best thread going back a few years.
Man, Benny should be King of Scoop for a month after this. This is some pretty damn impressive work.
A title Ners will likely try to hold on to once he's back.
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on January 08, 2015, 03:31:27 PM
I wrote him a strongly worded email, and this is what I got back. What a doucher.
"Thanks for the page views. Only helps me in the long run! As far as your issues with my writing, well, your displaying a lot of classic traits of the typical MU fan. You can't take any criticism at all, and you act like it's still the 70's. It's not the 70's, my friend. Its is the 20th century! MU is a really nice mid-major program. Occasionally, theyll get some good players and make a run at a tournament bid, and that's great. But, they are never going to be able to compete with the large conferences. I'm sorry, they just don't have the budget for it. MU doesn't have the money or the infrastructure to compete with the major schools. Anyways, thanks again for the read, and good luck to MU this season."
Not!
Is he from Milwaukee? I couldn't tell.
I think we should just retire Benny's number right now. Instant Scoop legend.
Bloody hell, but that's f ucking outstanding!
This is the most brilliant bit of trolling jujitsu I have ever seen. So very, very, well played.
Benny is SOTG
OK survey time people, and tell the truth
-Who fell for Benny's troll?
-Who contacted Myron is some way as a result?
-Who retrolled in this thread(Canned Ammo and me are the only ones I know for sure)?
-Who fell for the retrolling?
-Who thought Brewcity was a retroll?
-Who thought it was amazing when it turned out that Benny's troll on a fan site some how turned into a national writer from ESPN outing himself as a page view whore ala Skip Bayless?
I'll take my own survey
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
-Who fell for Benny's troll?
I definitely did
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
-Who contacted Myron is some way as a result?
I did not, I have a job people!
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
-Who retrolled in this thread(Canned Ammo and me are the only ones I know for sure)?
Obviously I did, and it wasn't very good
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
-Who fell for the retrolling?
For once I did not
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
-Who thought Brewcity was a retroll?
I did initially....actually had to check twitter to confirm it was actually happening...and it was amazing
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
-Who thought it was amazing when it turned out that Benny's troll on a fan site some how turned into a national writer from ESPN outing himself as a page view whore ala Skip Bayless?
What was incredible about this was there are MU fans who aren't on Scoop(shocking right) who picked up on Myron and started going after him as well....and they never saw the troll from Benny!! Plus I had none MU fans but sports fanatics emailing me about why MU was so enraged at Myron who then told others how awesome it was that Myron got outed. I think this is but a drop of water in a pond, but it boggles my mind how far this got and how many people got caught up in it.
If only we could harness Benny's powers for good instead of evil.
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
OK survey time people, and tell the truth
-Who fell for Benny's troll?
-Who contacted Myron is some way as a result?
-Who retrolled in this thread(Canned Ammo and me are the only ones I know for sure)?
-Who fell for the retrolling?
-Who thought Brewcity was a retroll?
-Who thought it was amazing when it turned out that Benny's troll on a fan site some how turned into a national writer from ESPN outing himself as a page view whore ala Skip Bayless?
-Me
-I tweeted a scathing 140 character response
-I did not
-Nope, saw through those
-I did at first
-Loved it
My goodness I thought I knew what was trolling and what wasn't, but then Brew has an actual twitter exchange with him outing him as a troll? I'm so confused
Hang on...Is Myron basically defending a satirical stance presented in an article that someone pretended to write as him?
That's amazing!
No need for any other threads to be nominated for "Best of 2015"!
This is fantastic!
Winner!
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 09, 2015, 09:48:45 AM
Hang on...Is Myron basically defending a satirical stance presented in an article that someone pretended to write as him?
That's amazing!
Honestly its kinda cool that Myron is owning it. He must have figured something up and is now defending it just to play with Marquette fans. You gotta give the guy some credit for that.
Wait a second... I've never seen Benny and Myron in the same place.
The only logical conclusion: they are the same people. Rocky--hit the IP's
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 09, 2015, 09:48:45 AMHang on...Is Myron basically defending a satirical stance presented in an article that someone pretended to write as him?
That's amazing!
Paint Touches got fooled by Benny's article and took to bashing Myron on Twitter. Some others jumped in on that bandwagon. After the realization that Benny fooled them, people apologized, but Myron reiterated his previously-held belief that Marquette is not a great job.
That was when I jumped on him. He has a long history of making inflammatory or outright stupid statements, which makes him a pretty easy target. Him getting really defensive made it easier. But he wasn't defending what Benny wrote, only defending his past negative statements about Marquette.
I'll never apologize after that email he sent me.
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on January 09, 2015, 10:51:23 AM
I'll never apologize after that email he sent me.
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Benny - thread of the year.
Brew - special mention for getting Myron to out himself as a no-talent troll.
Outstanding work, gentlemen! Absolutely outstanding!
Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 09, 2015, 11:46:19 AM
Benny - thread of the year.
Brew - special mention for getting Myron to out himself as a no-talent troll.
Outstanding work, gentlemen! Absolutely outstanding!
All credit due to Benny. I never would have engaged had he not prompted it all.
As far as eng's poll...
- I knew it was a troll, but wasn't sure it was Benny right away.
- Oh yeah I contacted him 8-)
- Nope
- Hell no
- I knew what I was doing ;)
- More priceless than MasterCard.
So who's going to do a fake Myron Medcalf Twitter account?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 09, 2015, 12:35:14 PM
So who's going to do a fake Myron Medcalf Twitter account?
The one where he is a competent journalist?
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
OK survey time people, and tell the truth
-Who fell for Benny's troll?
-Who contacted Myron is some way as a result?
-Who retrolled in this thread(Canned Ammo and me are the only ones I know for sure)?
-Who fell for the retrolling?
-Who thought Brewcity was a retroll?
-Who thought it was amazing when it turned out that Benny's troll on a fan site some how turned into a national writer from ESPN outing himself as a page view whore ala Skip Bayless?
Yup
Almost did, had the tweet written out but went to check just incase and saw it was a troll job.
No, sorry Brew.
It was so uncomfortably funny.
#1 Benny got me... then I caught on.
#2 I thought Brew was trying to get me... I was shocked to find out that was real.
#3 I tried to get some other people (had to use just enough misspellings and poor details to make it believable)
This was fun. Great work, guys.
Way more fun than arguing about "THIS GUY NEEDS MORE MINUTES!!!!!"
Nice work, Benny. Here's your prize and your new avatar.
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Holy mackerel. I... *blinks* ...I don't even know what to say. This should go on the pre-game video at the BC.
I had to go back and read the original post. Now, I mean NOW, it looks fake, but darn if I wasn't totally fished-in at the time. And then what follows. . . I am still in awe.
So is Benny the first inductee in the Scoop Hall of Fame?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 09, 2015, 12:35:14 PM
So who's going to do a fake Myron Medcalf Twitter account?
F*ckin's the master of that chit.
I was going to say this guys a moron but it seems to be well reported.
Quote from: ChitownJuan on January 08, 2015, 07:25:54 PM
And I think that's the biggest issue. Is that Myron is so bad at what he does. Bennys troll job was so believable to a lot here. That speaks volumes of the content Medcalf puts out.
That sums it up nicely.
Quote from: mu03eng on January 09, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
OK survey time people, and tell the truth
-Who fell for Benny's troll? Yes
-Who contacted Myron is some way as a result? No
-Who retrolled in this thread(Canned Ammo and me are the only ones I know for sure)? No. Reply #16 is me believing it's legit. Though I still don't retract my comments.
-Who fell for the retrolling? No
-Who thought Brewcity was a retroll? No
-Who thought it was amazing when it turned out that Benny's troll on a fan site some how turned into a national writer from ESPN outing himself as a page view whore ala Skip Bayless? Not amazing. Sadly, I always expected Medcalf's lack of integrity swirled into his immense incompetence would manifest itself with minimal provocation.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 08, 2015, 01:10:39 PM
Proof that people don't read threads before responding to them.
LMFAO!! I just read this thread in its entirety for the first time and GoldenWarrior's post made me laugh so hard. So damn hard. Dude is completely oblivious to all of the posts around him.
I don't think I ever even opened this thread because I knew Medcalf would simply trash MU, or if I did open it, I must have only skimmed the OP. Now that I have read the entire thread, I understand why this troll is so meta as to blow your mind. Guys, this HAS to beat Catholic 7. It just has to. I bet the people who are voting for "Catholic 7" are ones like me, who simply missed the beautiful, sweet, masterpiece that this troll job was.
I feel like bringing up the original meme threads during the voting is sort of like tampering.