After this game not so sure we'll win any.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 31, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
After this game not so sure we'll win any.
You knew we would lose bad games and win good games.
Come in off the ledge
MU will win some home games.
possibly Depaul at home - beyond that - who?
I don't see a road win all year,,,
Jesus, already? I'm pissed too but....already with the "can we even win again ever!!!???" crap?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 31, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
possibly Depaul at home - beyond that - who?
I don't see a road win all year,,,
. I think we can win a couple road games. For some reason we have struggled with depaul as of late
MU still wins at least 8 games in conference. Still wins at least 2 on the road.
We'll win some we shouldn't and lose a few we shouldn't.
I'll call it now. We beat Nova this year.
For some reason Wojo has not figured it out yet.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 31, 2014, 06:11:13 PM
For some reason Wojo has not figured it out yet.
Figured what out? 13 games into his head coaching career.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on December 31, 2014, 06:08:18 PM
Jesus, already? I'm pissed too but....already with the "can we even win again ever!!!???" crap?
That's why you have to leave and leave the irrational to their stupid statements. Come back in 24 to 48 hours.
It has been clear from the start of the year that this team would have some bad loses. Once Luke came on board, I became focused on the surprising wins we might be able to steal and wistful thoughts of post-season play. This game realigned my expectations back to where they were at Midnight Madness.
Any of them except Nova. Their skill and depth is too much for MU this year. Anyone else? Absolutely.
Quote from: forgetful on December 31, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
MU still wins at least 8 games in conference. Still wins at least 2 on the road.
We'll win some we shouldn't and lose a few we shouldn't.
I'll call it now. We beat Nova this year.
Suggest you don't become a bettor.
I think we lose a lot on the road with 8 guys and maybe win 6 games at home.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 31, 2014, 06:11:13 PM
For some reason Wojo has not figured it out yet.
You already started a thread with this sheet. We get it Willie, but thanks for putting your "Wojo blew it" here also in case we missedit. Can you sneak it in another thread? I bet you can.
With 4 of the first 6 on the road, MU could easily start out the Big East 0-6.
Quote from: TSmith34 on December 31, 2014, 06:29:14 PM
Any of them except Nova. Their skill and depth is too much for MU this year. Anyone else? Absolutely.
I agree. When we have an on night, we will be able to compete with most of the teams in the conference.
This was a bad matchup. DePaul is number seven in the nation in adjusted tempo. Omaha and NJIT both in the top 25. DePaul also has nine players who shoot above 30% from three. Still should have won, but a bad matchup nonetheless.
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 31, 2014, 06:38:23 PM
This was a bad matchup. DePaul is number seven in the nation in adjusted tempo. Omaha and NJIT both in the top 25. DePaul also has nine players who shoot above 30% from three. Still should have won, but a bad matchup nonetheless.
Interesting analysis, thanks
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 31, 2014, 06:38:23 PM
This was a bad matchup. DePaul is number seven in the nation in adjusted tempo. Omaha and NJIT both in the top 25. DePaul also has nine players who shoot above 30% from three. Still should have won, but a bad matchup nonetheless.
C'mon, that's a bad DePaul team without one of their best players and their D is exceptionally bad.
Ok Dodds... Good lord, can't match up against the worst team in the league missing their second best player...
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 31, 2014, 06:38:23 PM
This was a bad matchup. DePaul is number seven in the nation in adjusted tempo. Omaha and NJIT both in the top 25. DePaul also has nine players who shoot above 30% from three. Still should have won, but a bad matchup nonetheless.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 31, 2014, 06:38:23 PM
This was a bad matchup. DePaul is number seven in the nation in adjusted tempo. Omaha and NJIT both in the top 25. DePaul also has nine players who shoot above 30% from three. Still should have won, but a bad matchup nonetheless.
If DePaul is a bad matchup then I honestly don't see a good matchup on the schedule during conference play. Every other team we will be playing plays better defense and has big men that will give this team fits.
When the team lost to Omaha everyone was groaning about not winning any more games and blah blah blah. We go on a win streak against terrible teams and people think we can finish in the top half of the big east and win 11 games. Then we lose one game and all of a sudden its back to the doomsday talk. Yeesh.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 31, 2014, 06:11:13 PM
For some reason Wojo has not figured it out yet.
I think he has figured out he has a pitiful jump shooting team. beyond abysmal.
This is a horrifying loss, absolute embarrassing. This sux what the hell happened
Big East Coast Bias @becb_sbn
FINAL: Xavier knocks off (#25) Georgetown 70-53 to conclude #BigEastNYE. Home teams went 5-0 today. Happy New Year and See you Saturday!
Wow just great St. John's and Gtown lose
To unranked teams might have only 1 ranked team in the big east rich absolutely sucks for
The conference what the hell gtown Xavier's beaten knowbody
Xavier is solid and was favored.
Quote from: forgetful on December 31, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
MU still wins at least 8 games in conference. Still wins at least 2 on the road.
We'll win some we shouldn't and lose a few we shouldn't.
I'll call it now. We beat Nova this year.
Not at all....
Moral of the day. Winning on the road in the Big East is hard.
you do know that prior to this season, Depaul is 4 - 41 at home in conference ?
awful loss..
Quote from: forgetful on January 01, 2015, 02:18:54 AM
Moral of the day. Winning on the road in the Big East is hard.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 31, 2014, 11:41:42 PM
Wow just great St. John's and Gtown lose
To unranked teams might have only 1 ranked team in the big east rich absolutely sucks for
The conference what the hell gtown Xavier's beaten knowbody
Johnny, your posts are so damn hard to read. Can you use punctuation, spell check once in a while and ise the right word once in a while?
Oh, and come in off the ledge. The Big East will be fine this year.
I'm with these brilliant b-ball minds... MU will only beat Depaul at home.
I'm guessing these are the same guys that said MU would only win 6 games all year after the early non-con struggles?
Very disappointing loss, as they were in control and should have put DePaul away. A lot to learn from the game for Wojo and the team... hopefully they do learn.
MU has struggled at DePaul many times, including some ugly losses.
Henton and Providence looked tough, so hopefully they regroup and come out firing.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 01, 2015, 09:59:33 AM
Johnny, your posts are so damn hard to read. Can you use punctuation, spell check once in a while and ise the right word once in a while?
Oh, and come in off the ledge. The Big East will be fine this year.
This phone is hassle to type on and I was busy last night so I was rely worried about grammar .
We'll beat providence on Saturday.
1. We can beat any team in the league.
2. We can lose to any team in the league.
3. To all of those out on the ledge - please jump now. Save us all from the whining.
I have decided to become a fan of the UC-Santa Cruz Banana Slugs because it is now obvious that Marquette will never, ever win another basketball game.
We -- oops, I mean "they" -- are doomed. Doomed, I tell you!!!!
First, Henry and the others will back out of their letters of intent. Then, Wojo will quit. And then Marquette will dump its basketball program all together and replace it with ladies curling.
Because that's exactly what happens when a college team loses a basketball game -- the self-imposed death penalty. As it should.
It was fun while it lasted though, huh?
(As an aside, this is why I usually wait at least 24 hours after a bad loss to even open Scoop in my browser.)
I still believe that this team, with all 8 contributing, can win some games. I have never bought into the idea that this is a tourney team. Not enough experience, not enough proven scoring, not enough height, not enough depth, new coach, etc. But I have seen glimpses that have given me hope. Wojo clearly has some learning to do, being 13 games in the big chair. But when this team is firing on all cylinders, aggressively attacking the rim, disrupting passing lanes, they are a threat to anyone. I just don't know if they have enough firepower to finish the deal. It is imperative that Wojo gets more disciplined in his substitution patterns. It is also vitally important that everyone is working to get better every day. I haven't given up on STjr yet. I haven't given up on the team, either. I just never had high expectations.
Quote from: MU82 on January 01, 2015, 04:05:56 PM
I have decided to become a fan of the UC-Santa Cruz Banana Slugs because it is now obvious that Marquette will never, ever win another basketball game.
We -- oops, I mean "they" -- are doomed. Doomed, I tell you!!!!
First, Henry and the others will back out of their letters of intent. Then, Wojo will quit. And then Marquette will dump its basketball program all together and replace it with ladies curling.
Because that's exactly what happens when a college team loses a basketball game -- the self-imposed death penalty. As it should.
It was fun while it lasted though, huh?
(As an aside, this is why I usually wait at least 24 hours after a bad loss to even open Scoop in my browser.)
Losing to DePaul is always a bad loss, especially when their leading scorer and post player misses the game and Marquette is up double digits midway through the second half.
I think most people are not upset per se in Marquette losing, but rather the way the team lost. From Wojo to every player on the floor it was like a collective let down. I think the team took a step backwards yesterday after a couple of weeks of promising growth.
There are the typical 'after a bad loss' posts being put up for sure, but using sarcasm to sugar coat a bad loss just gives credibility to those clamoring about how terrible the game was.
Many have said all along: we can beat anybody and we can lose to anybody. DePaul is a painful loss to be sure. But the season is not over. Let's see how we play.
I have no doubt that DePaul will wind up in its usual and expected last place.
Every year (except 2009) DePaul manages to eke out a win or two in the Big East, and every year those wins come against a better team. This year one of those wins was against us.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 01, 2015, 07:22:43 PM
I have no doubt that DePaul will wind up in its usual and expected last place.
Every year (except 2009) DePaul manages to eke out a win or two in the Big East, and every year those wins come against a better team. This year one of those wins was against us.
Exactly, last year they beat Seton Hall and St. Johns at home and Butler on the road. They also beat Georgetown in the conference tourney. All those teams were better than them.
The year before that, they beat a good Providence team at Providence.
Unfortunately this year, they got us. Live and learn.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 01, 2015, 07:22:43 PM
I have no doubt that DePaul will wind up in its usual and expected last place.
I actually wouldn't be shocked if DePaul finished higher than us this year. It is going to be very difficult for MU to win a Big East road game and most of the home games will be struggles too.
Quote from: Norm on January 01, 2015, 09:13:35 PM
I actually wouldn't be shocked if DePaul finished higher than us this year. It is going to be very difficult for MU to win a Big East road game and most of the home games will be struggles too.
I wouldn't be surprised if DePaul goes 1-17, I think in the 2cd half we almost played worse vs DePaul then vs Omaha. This one stings, stings like a brazillian yellow jacket to the eyeball.
MU was dominating this team for the majority of the game despite a poor shooting game after the Xmas break layoff. They just pissed it away at the end with bad turnovers, poor shot selection, and a failure to hit free throws. The rookie coach will learn as well about in game adjustments.
Plenty of games to play and grow.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2015, 12:58:36 PM
MU was dominating this team for the majority of the game despite a poor shooting game after the break. They just pissed it away at the end with bad turnovers, poor shot selection, and a failure to hit free throws. The rookie coach will learn as well about in game adjustments.
Plenty of games to play and grow.
exactly. the loss was awful but mostly because it slipped away at the very end. despite how poorly we shot/etc were still up double digits for the majority of the game... that might be putting lipstick on a pig but not like this team wasn't or won't be competitive...
Quote from: mattyv1908 on January 01, 2015, 04:24:57 PM
Losing to DePaul is always a bad loss, especially when their leading scorer and post player misses the game and Marquette is up double digits midway through the second half.
I think most people are not upset per se in Marquette losing, but rather the way the team lost. From Wojo to every player on the floor it was like a collective let down. I think the team took a step backwards yesterday after a couple of weeks of promising growth.
There are the typical 'after a bad loss' posts being put up for sure, but using sarcasm to sugar coat a bad loss just gives credibility to those clamoring about how terrible the game was.
The only thing I'm sugar-coating is the ledge so it's a little sticky and I won't fall off of it before I jump.
Oh, the humanity!
So which team in the league can we beat?
Ummm ... let me take a wild stab ... Providence?
Is there a list for "worst posts of the year"? Because if so, id like to nominate about 12 numnuts posts in this horriblr, insane, and ridiculous thread.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on January 03, 2015, 09:48:05 PM
Is there a list for "worst posts of the year"? Because if so, id like to nominate about 12 numnuts posts in this horriblr, insane, and ridiculous thread.
+1
The idiots in this post are going on ignore as they have shown humanity is worse off for reading their opinions.
Come on, doomesday hiroshima posts are hilarious.
Quote from: MU82 on January 03, 2015, 09:38:27 PM
So which team in the league can we beat?
Ummm ... let me take a wild stab ... Providence?
That's just crazy. ;)
Love the doomsday posts.
The answer is that we can beat any team in the BE at the BC, and probably at least stay in the game with any team on the road. A few made or missed shots could mean the difference between third and eighth at the end of the season.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 04, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Love the doomsday posts.
The answer is that we can beat any team in the BE at the BC, and probably at least stay in the game with any team on the road. A few made or missed shots could mean the difference between third and eighth at the end of the season.
+1
Depaul did not bother me because we are going to lose games we should not, and wins games we should not. And yes, we will be somewhere between 3rd and 8th with the difference being a handful of made or missed shots.
As the OP let me say this. Where else can express the joy of victory or the agony of defeat. Scoop would be pretty boring if we only posted threads on how great the team is. When we lose it's a place to vent and when we win celebrate the victory. As for my question the team answered that in resounding fashion.
Hell, I still don't think we'll ever recover from the 2010 loss to DePaul.
Quote from: MU82 on January 04, 2015, 11:48:02 PM
Hell, I still don't think we'll ever recover from the 2010 loss to DePaul.
Wait, did DePaul beat Xavier?