Time to kick the door down on the new Big East season and tromp the Blue Hairy Wet Cats.
Yeah, going out on a limb here....early call is Steve for SOTG....hometown game and all.
If he isn't in the running for it, it's reason for concern for the rest of the season.
GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!
Fire up Marquette. Tommy Hamilton was a bad boy. No play today.
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Juan wins the tip again. I think he is perfect on the year.
"Seems like a home game for Marquete..." Good job, Warrior Nation!
Steve listening to Chili, early
Juan as well.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 31, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
Yeah, going out on a limb here....early call is Steve for SOTG....hometown game and all.
GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!
I didn't know that Steve was from Rosemont
FS1 announcer - "It's all about the big fella for Marquette." That's something I don't think I ever heard before ASU (and probably not accurate yet in this game). Still feels funny. That being said FIRE IT UP LUKE. Time to dominate.
EDIT: Also, don't foul.
JJJ's D will be exposed if he continues on Billy Garrett JR.
Luke with 2 fouls already? Not good.
Keep shooting those threes, maybe one will fall. 1 for 8.
Are we playing DePaul's desired speed so far?
Sloppy game so far. Too many threes early in the shot clock, but we've had a lot of looks just not falling. Love the rebounding though.
We should be up by 12, at least. DePaul is terrible.
1 for 11 now from three. Just terrible.
Geez just make 2 or 3 of these wide open three's and it's a runaway.
Good take by derrick
7 boards for Juan already?
If MU doesn't keep chucking up threes they'd have a 10 point lead
Quote from: nyg on December 31, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
1 for 11 now from three. Just terrible.
Wide open looks though. Have to take them.
Can only follow online, but stats say Carlino is 2-8. Looks like we have bad Carlino again today.
Dick Stockton should have reviewed our roster prior to doing this game. Brutal.
Can't believe the O/U for this game was 150... free money
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on December 31, 2014, 04:31:37 PM
Wide open looks though. Have to take them.
When the alternative is continuing the layup drill, I'm good with a red light for a little bit.
Who the hell is guarding Garrett--nobody? And why the hell is Fischer riding the pines? And why the hell isn't Du. Wilson in there, instead of Carlino and/or De. Wilson?
Both Luke and Duane have 2 fouls.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 31, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Who the hell is guarding Garrett--nobody? And why the hell is Fischer riding the pines? And why the hell isn't Du. Wilson in there, instead of Carlino and/or De. Wilson?
The gamechanger??
Feel good about this. Keep Luke and Duane out of foul trouble and we'll be fine. Tons of missed threes hurt, but can't complain about a 6-point road lead.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 31, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Who the hell is guarding Garrett--nobody? And why the hell is Fischer riding the pines? And why the hell isn't Du. Wilson in there, instead of Carlino and/or De. Wilson?
Did you just start watching the game? Fischer got 2 fouls within 5 mins. Du. Wison good on off. bad on D with 2 fouls.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 31, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Who the hell is guarding Garrett--nobody? And why the hell is Fischer riding the pines? And why the hell isn't Du. Wilson in there, instead of Carlino and/or De. Wilson?
So instead an educated guess or looking at a stat sheet, you immediately come on the message board and emphasize your complaints with swear words. Good job.
Why does it seem like Depaul always has the hardest rims in the world. The sound of the ball when it hits the rim is horrendous and nothing will bounce in.
2 for 13 from three. Most of them wide open, yet not going in. Thank goodness this is against Depaul......
Fischer with two fouls, yet Taylor not stepping up against the nobody inside for Depaul. Taylor is 1 for 4 with three rebounds. He just can't make those inside shots and if this was Villanova, it would be ugly.
Depaul without Hamilton is not very good and this game should not be within a tenpoint spread. We'll see what happens after adjustments, but will be a barometer for things to come.
Keep our cool and keep Luke in the game and we should be OK. Carlino is due to hit a couple of 3s. DePaul plays no defense.
Quote from: ecompt on December 31, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
Keep our cool and keep Luke in the game and we should be OK. Carlino is due to hit a couple of 3s. DePaul plays no defense.
One thing we know for sure, even if Carlino isn't 'due', he will keep shooting like he is.
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 31, 2014, 04:50:59 PM
So instead an educated guess or looking at a stat sheet, you immediately come on the message board and emphasize your complaints with swear words. Good job.
Real intelligent post Studley. If "helll" is a swear word, then the bible should be banned. I looked at the stat sheet, Duane is our leading scorer, but then again, you wouldn't notice that as you are too busy falsely accusing me o something that you have no knowledge about.
Duane is our leading scorer?.....then what the hell was he sitting out for????
Damnit all to hell.
WTF? 4 for 9 on free throws now. Can't hit threes, can't make free throws.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 31, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Who the hell is guarding Garrett--nobody? And why the hell is Fischer riding the pines? And why the hell isn't Du. Wilson in there, instead of Carlino and/or De. Wilson?
My 10-year old knows the answer to all these questions. Apparently she has a better understanding of basketball than you do.
Did I miss something about Sandy Cohen?
Wojo with huge F bomb there. Not good......
Derrick with the sweet jumping turnover!
Are they pressing us?
We needed Derrick to step up from 3.
Derrick with 9 pts, 7 rebs!
Congrats to Derrick for making his 6th career 3pt fg!!!
Thought that shot was going to hit net, rim at best. Pretty dumb goaltend.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 31, 2014, 05:13:39 PM
Derrick with 9 pts, 7 rebs!
And the best three point percentage on the team in Big East play.
Nice dunk by Crockett....
Why no Cohen? Dude is still wearing his warmups
JJJ starting to step it up with nice moves to the hoop!
So, what's everybody drinking?
Starting amateur night with a Firestone Double Jack Double IPA.
?-( ?-( this team is puzzling! At times they show some promise and at other times ugly.
I just read this thread now.
So how much are we losing by?
oh, wait
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 31, 2014, 05:22:45 PM
I just read this thread now.
So how much are we losing by?
oh, wait
Almost alwys the case.
STOP.SHOOTING.THREES
Total different team with Fischer, not Taylor. MU throwing inside and Fischer either looks for shot or passes out for open shot or player cutting to basket. Wojo went ballistic at that timeout and probably said cool it with the threes. Very nice b-ball skills for Fischer. And Carlino misses another three.........and JJJ misses another three....... and JJJ with another miss three.......Guess not.
LUUUUUUUKE
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on December 31, 2014, 05:15:23 PM
Congrats to Derrick for making his 6th career 3pt fg!!!
We're waiting on your 6th career intelligent post. Only 5 to go....
Quote from: LloydsLegs on December 31, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
So, what's everybody drinking?
Starting amateur night with a Firestone Double Jack Double IPA.
Oh captain, my captain
Guinness
Quote from: LloydsLegs on December 31, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
So, what's everybody drinking?
Starting amateur night with a Firestone Double Jack Double IPA.
Coke zero! Delicious and refreshing, but may take a post-game nap so I'm a little worried about the caffeine intake. Prayers up!
Quote from: nyg on December 31, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Total different team with Fischer, not Taylor.
Agreed, Steve is killing us today. The missed threes hurt, but Steve was playing even mediocre ball, we'd be up by about 5 more....
Not sure I like how this game is looking. The refs letting Depaul attack. They could call about 5 fouls per possession on Depaul. May lead to difficult scoring and turnovers.
Not liking this, we just can't put them away. Very sloppy with the ball. Need to settle down and run the offense.
Steve is so bad.
Good to see Steve with some boards, but he has to hit a shot or two.
The refs are not the problem.
Quote from: Class71 on December 31, 2014, 05:36:05 PM
The refs are not the problem.
3 for 20 from three, missed free throws and the ten steals for Depaul are.
Quote from: Class71 on December 31, 2014, 05:36:05 PM
The refs are not the problem.
+1
Way too many 3s, and missed FTs.
Quote from: Class71 on December 31, 2014, 05:36:05 PM
The refs are not the problem.
Agreed, I'm just hoping all the other issues don't put us in a situation where they can be a problem.
Alley-oop Derrick.
What a horsesh*t charge call.
His left heel was on the circle. Can't be a charge.
For all you TV folks was Garrett inside the circle?
Quote from: MarkusSharkus on December 31, 2014, 05:41:27 PM
What a horsesh*t charge call.
Left foot was on the restricted area line. Too bad they can't review.
Quote from: MarkusSharkus on December 31, 2014, 05:41:27 PM
What a horsesh*t charge call.
Agreed...but we have to handle 3-1 better than that.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on December 31, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
So, what's everybody drinking?
Starting amateur night with a Firestone Double Jack Double IPA.
Bell's Christmas Ale
Did you know DePaul is 1-6 in Big East oriental games?
3 on 1 and the worst play of the season. Is this a learning moment?
WTF Carlino
I scream "no" at the TV as Wojo goes to the man to man. Two lay ups later it's a 3 point game. Stupid.
Ugly playing.
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 31, 2014, 05:31:13 PM
Coke zero! Delicious and refreshing, but may take a post-game nap so I'm a little worried about the caffeine intake. Prayers up!
I got you JB
If we lose ...major subtext will be Carlino cold.
It's not our d, it's our o that is killing us. We look scared.
At least 12 steals for DePaul. Very ugly
3 point shooting kills us...we can't make any and other teams bury them on us.
JaJuan sat way too long this half. Nice spark at the beginning.
Why is Fischer making more passes than Carlino?
Carlino can be frustrating. This game is not the exciting start to the season I was looking for.
Carlino is just horrid. One good game in a MU jersey and the rest has been garbage.
Its Louisville all over again
I would not want to be around me now. This is infuriating, and I'm full of all kinds of furious.
That ws bad by Carlino in many ways.
Time for our fans to bring us home.
Quote from: Norm on December 31, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
Carlino is just horrid. One good game in a MU jersey and the rest has been garbage.
While he is not playing well, he was manhandled on that last possession, fouled about 4 times.
Carlino Should be better than this.
Quote from: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 05:46:28 PM
Carlino can be frustrating. This game is not the exciting start to the season I was looking for.
3 for 13 is tough.
Carling looks like a freshman out there. Just terrible.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 31, 2014, 05:46:43 PM
Its Louisville all over again
No. Louisville ws very good. DP is very bad.
The stat sheet doesn't begin to describe how awful Carlino has been
Congrats to Fox on their commercial breaks. They are slow posting score changes and fast on the commercials. I suspect we get the third string crew.
FS GO just cut away from the live game to that STUPID VISA commercial. I guess there was a TO and they cut out before the feed caught up.
It's going to be a loooooooong season.
Wow, Matt. ?-(
Man did we tank. Terrible
Momentum is a heck of a thing. :-\
Quote from: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
FS GO just cut away from the live game to that STUPID VISA commercial. Very very unhappy.
So did the TV
Quote from: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
FS GO just cut away from the live game to that STUPID VISA commercial. Very very unhappy.
The tv broadcast cut away too.
Quote from: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
FS GO just cut away from the live game to that STUPID VISA commercial. Very very unhappy.
not as unhapy as brewcity
Quote from: TSmith34 on December 31, 2014, 05:47:50 PM
The stat sheet doesn't begin to describe how awful Carlino has been
Carlino keeps dribbling towards Fischer, dumb!
Fischer.
Quote from: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
FS GO just cut away from the live game to that STUPID VISA commercial. Very very unhappy.
Watch ESPN always comes in HD for me. FSG is 12 pixels about 80% of the time. Garbage. And why have two of the pixels been flashing the BREAKING NEWS about the Bills coach leaving for an hour now? It's not like he's Lebron.
Ballgame.
Carling is 3 for 14 and 1 for 9 from three. That shot he took really hurt
Now Matt giving up open shots and missing FTs....
Looks like we will not need to worry about where we will end up this year.
It's really frustrating to see things go bad and the players keep doing the same dumb stuff. How many times will we give Luke the ball in the double team?
It just keeps getting worse for Carlino...
announcer--talking about DP- "you don't come into the game on the ROAD and make a big shot"
Carlino is loosing game for us....
Sure... foul their best FT shooter now too...
Why do you foul Garrett? >:(
It's just one game, but it's really upsetting that we gave up that lead. Wojo will get them going in the right direction, but this year is going to be tough.
What a waste of my $20
game is not over, but it feels that way
I will see you all in two days ... I know how irrational this place gets after a loss like this.
Carlino and Taylor: combined 4-20
Rest of team: combined 17-34
We're going to lose to the worst team in major conference basketball. I feel sick. The steak and shrimp I'm about to eat has already been ruined.
Nice job peeing down the pant leg to close out the game...
awful - will be lucky to be 4 - 14 in conference...
Long season if we run out of gas in late going like this.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 31, 2014, 05:54:21 PM
Carlino and Taylor: combined 4-20
Rest of team: combined 17-34
wow
Quote from: towncryer on December 31, 2014, 05:53:01 PM
It's just one game, but it's really upsetting that we gave up that lead. Wojo will get them going in the right direction, but this year is going to be tough.
Just one game against the worst team in the BE!
I just think of all those wasted possessions with terrible 3's. Shouldn't we be finished with those now that conference play has started?
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 31, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
We're going to lose to the worst team in major conference basketball. I feel sick. The steak and shrimp I'm about to eat has already been ruined.
Granted they are not good but you're overstating how bad they are
Awful performance win or lose DePaul is not a good team were playing absolutely terrible turnovers and stupid passes yikes.
Quote from: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
I just think of all those wasted possessions with terrible 3's. Shouldn't we be finished with those now that conference play has started?
That's what gets me so fired up. You get the ball and throw up low percentage shots with more than 15 seconds on the shot clock. I'll never get it.
Why handicap eight players down to seven, and sit Johnson for a long stretch when no one else knows how to score? My 9-9 prediction was too optimistic; I'll also have to revise DePaul from 1-17 to 2-16.
Wtf, DePaul will be far and away worst team in Big East and we will probably lose to them
They beat Stanford earlier this year.
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 31, 2014, 05:56:32 PM
Granted they are not good but you're overstating how bad they are
I'm talking about the past 5 or so years. They are the worst and it isn't even close.
Can we have Jimmy Butler back for one possession.
Quote from: forgetful on December 31, 2014, 05:58:16 PM
Can we have Jimmy Butler back for one possession.
PRETTY PLEASE???
Who gets the shot?
Quote from: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 05:58:55 PM
PRETTY PLEASE???
Who gets the shot?
Duane would be my call.
Pathetic.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 31, 2014, 05:54:50 PM
Nice job peeing down the pant leg to close out the game...
awful - will be lucky to be 4 - 14 in conference...
if we cant even beat depaul where are the 4 wins going to come from?? Hell even last years squad could take down the demons
Just wow.
Wow
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on December 31, 2014, 05:57:44 PM
They beat Stanford earlier this year.
Yes but with their second best player. Hamilton didn't even play today. DePaul is worst team in big east history. Terrible
Not to rub salt in this wound but DePaul does this without their big and second leading scorer...ugh.
Wow
3-23 from three. Stupid.
I hope Wojo learned that Carlino should only be a 10-15 minute player. Give the starting job to Johnson and let Carlino come off the bench for awhile.
awful game by all around - coaching and players... really dont like losing a 13 pt lead like that, Wojo has a lot to learn...
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 31, 2014, 05:22:45 PM
I just read this thread now.
So how much are we losing by?
oh, wait
Like Legs said, always the same. Uh, no.....
That was really sad ball for Marquette, but we knew it would be a rebuilding year. Disappointing that Luke wasn't more of a factor due to fouls - hopefully that doesn't become a theme. I'm glad no one else is in the office today. I've been swearing aloud for the past 20 minutes.
No chance for post season. Time to move on and just look for something positive.
Play bad, lose. MU had their chances and didn't take them.
Quote from: Class71 on December 31, 2014, 06:03:05 PM
No chance for post season. Time to move on and just look for something positive.
Wait you thought he had a chance for the NCAA two hours ago?
Steve Taylor is easily the most disappointing player in a long time. He has gotten progressively worse since his freshmen year. At some point our 2nd big man needs to learn how to do something productive on the court.
Wow! I had picked 10 wins in the BE wins poll, but would cut that in half right now. DePaul had a 6 game losing streak and we had a 4 game winning streak. They were also missing their big guy today. Not a good way to celebrate New Year's Eve.
It's just one game...but when you have an awful team down 13 midway through the second half, you just can't lose.
My favorite part of watching Marquette is Derrick Wilson handling the ball 75 percent of the time and then giving it to someone to throw up a wild shot at the end of the shot clock. I wonder if he's proud of being the starting PG for the worst two-year stretch at Marquette in like 30 years. His eligibility can't run out fast enough for me.
Quote from: MarkusSharkus on December 31, 2014, 06:04:15 PM
Steve Taylor is easily the most disappointing player in a long time. He has gotten progressively worse since his freshmen year. At some point our 2nd big man needs to learn how to do something productive on the court.
What is wrong with Steve. Certainly not the same player he was his freshman year. I can't believe his surgery has affected his game this much.
This game was disappointing.
Also, they triple Luke and he dishes it out to Carlino. Instead of Carlino finding an open guy he just dribbled the air out of the ball. I don't understand what the hell just transpired over those last 10 minutes. But I will say, that charge call was the game. Instead of Garrett with 4 fouls and two free throws. We had our most important guy go out of the game. From there the wheels really came off.
That was a historically bad shooting performance. I'm curious to know if we even made one of the many wide-open shots that DePaul granted us in the first half. Seriously, they came out and played no defense at all in the first half. I know we don't have a great team this year, but even we should have won this game by 30 points.
I thought Duane should have had way more opportunities, he looked good with the chances he got in the first half.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 31, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
What is wrong with Steve. Certainly not the same player he was his freshman year. I can't believe his surgery has affected his game this much.
Steve had good games in stretches against teams that zoned and did not game plan for him as a freshman. He would come in, find open spots make some bunnies, get some offensive rebounds. He never had any responsibility. The difference now is that MU needs a lot more from him.
carli issues, but if he is a 10-15 minute player on this team, what are your sentiments on Derrick? Carlino is a better shooter scorer and FT shooter than Derrick, so now what?
I think I hate Brent even more after watching that game.
Quote from: tower912 on December 31, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Steve had good games in stretches against teams that zoned and did not game plan for him as a freshman. He would come in, find open spots make some bunnies, get some offensive rebounds. He never had any responsibility. The difference now is that MU needs a lot more from him.
Next year Taylor will get minimal minutes spelling Fischer and Henry. He just never turned it around and don't see it happening after three years. Shame
Quote from: Afroman on December 31, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
My favorite part of watching Marquette is Derrick Wilson handling the ball 75 percent of the time and then giving it to someone to throw up a wild shot at the end of the shot clock. I wonder if he's proud of being the starting PG for the worst two-year stretch at Marquette in like 30 years. His eligibility can't run out fast enough for me.
Hey, to play like this it takes a team to loose. We have players who do not protect the ball, who shoot even though they can not hit a barn, passes that go to the other team, play no D, throw into a double teamed post, have Teve bring up the ball and have him shoot a three. All of this against the second worst team in the BE. You ask who is the worst? I leave it to your imagination.
Marquette at DePaul, or "How to tank a season in under 12 minutes."
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 31, 2014, 06:04:08 PM
Wait you thought he had a chance for the NCAA two hours ago?
What can I say, I was a foolish optimist.
Quote from: Afroman on December 31, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
My favorite part of watching Marquette is Derrick Wilson handling the ball 75 percent of the time and then giving it to someone to throw up a wild shot at the end of the shot clock. I wonder if he's proud of being the starting PG for the worst two-year stretch at Marquette in like 30 years. His eligibility can't run out fast enough for me.
+100. Drives me insane.
Carlino dribbled the ball far longer and ineffectively than Derrick today.
DePaul is really bad. The worst team we will play for the balance of the season. They played without their leading scorer and rebounder. While technically a road game, our fans outnumbered theirs by a lot. We had a 12 point lead when we stopped attacking on offense. Then when they cut it to seven Wojo panicked and switched out of the zone. Two lay ups later (surprise, surprise) it's a 3 point game. Down the stretch we looked totally disorganized and out of control. They weren't lucky, didn't hit some miracle shot to beat us. They took it from us and had the game in hand at the end. Some of our guys lost their poise (most notably Matt) and Wojo had a shell shocked look on his face on the sidelines.
In the recent past MU teams have usually bounced back after giving away one like this. Here's hoping that we do again this time.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 31, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
What is wrong with Steve. Certainly not the same player he was his freshman year. I can't believe his surgery has affected his game this much.
He has zero elevation. Puzzling
Quote from: Afroman on December 31, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
My favorite part of watching Marquette is Derrick Wilson handling the ball 75 percent of the time and then giving it to someone to throw up a wild shot at the end of the shot clock. I wonder if he's proud of being the starting PG for the worst two-year stretch at Marquette in like 30 years. His eligibility can't run out fast enough for me.
Seems like a good kid, but has no business being a starting PG for any team that has aspirations of going to the tournament. He's painful to watch 95% of the time and although he's played better recently, he's still an offensive liability. I am very excited for him to move on as well! He should be proud though, hes proven hard work with minimal talent can payoff and be rewarded. It just doesn't translate into a winning product on the basketball court. I wish him all the success in the world when he graduates.
Quote from: Afroman on December 31, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
My favorite part of watching Marquette is Derrick Wilson handling the ball 75 percent of the time and then giving it to someone to throw up a wild shot at the end of the shot clock. I wonder if he's proud of being the starting PG for the worst two-year stretch at Marquette in like 30 years. His eligibility can't run out fast enough for me.
+100 right
Derrick is a good kid, just doesn't have what it takes to win against good teams at this level. Last year the team had players to help mask his play, but with no Jamil, Davante, Todd or Jake around. A team with Derrick Wilson playing 38 Minutes at PG with 1 assist, just isn't gonna win many games....
At the Big East level this type of story happens fast "DePaul trailed most of the game with Marquette's largest lead at 49-36 with 11:46 left. From there, DePaul outscored the Golden Eagles 25-9 by forcing eight turnovers for easy transition baskets..."
Quote from: Norm on December 31, 2014, 06:01:39 PM
I hope Wojo learned that Carlino should only be a 10-15 minute player. Give the starting job to Johnson and let Carlino come off the bench for awhile.
+10000000
Derrick plays because nobody has taken the minutes from him. Blame the guys who are playing behind him.
Quote from: Nevada233 on January 01, 2015, 01:28:52 AM
At the Big East level this type of story happens fast "DePaul trailed most of the game with Marquette's largest lead at 49-36 with 11:46 left. From there, DePaul outscored the Golden Eagles 25-9 by forcing eight turnovers for easy transition baskets..."
Turnovers:
Luke - 5 in 21 minutes
Duane - 3 in 29 minutes
Derrick - 2 in 38 minutes
If you want to blame the loss on late game turnovers, Derrick is NOT your scapegoat.