Was just thinking about how kentucky and Indiana got into that big spat over kentucky trying to bring the game to a neutral site and was wondering if that could happen to the MU UW game. I think if there was a big enough place somewhat between the schools it could be a cool set up with two student sections and such. Just wondering what yall think.
Where?
Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, I doubt seriously there is an arena anywhere in the state that would be large enough for such a game.
We kinda tried this years ago by pretending that Marquette and Wisconsin were co-hosts of the Milwaukee Not-so-Classic. Wisconsin got tired of being beaten regularly on Marquette's home court.
Out-of-state, no one cares unless Becky and Willie Wampum are both in the Top 10.
Let's go a step further. What financial incentive exists to play this game anywhere except Milwaukee and Madison?
So NO! Our fans find a way to make it to Rodentland and their fans find a way to make it to Milwaukee.
As far as I'm concerned the game at the Bradley Center is a neutral game. Last time I went it was 40% badger fans.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 02, 2014, 09:35:48 AM
Was just thinking about how kentucky and Indiana got into that big spat over kentucky trying to bring the game to a neutral site and was wondering if that could happen to the MU UW game. I think if there was a big enough place somewhat between the schools it could be a cool set up with two student sections and such. Just wondering what yall think.
I agree with the where question.
But bigger than that, as an MU fan, why would we want to do that? Becky would overwhelm the attendance, ya know, them not having jobs and being hippies and all. There are far more UW fans than MU fans, a neutral site within Wisconsin is not going to get us anything but out counted through the turnstile so what would be the point?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 02, 2014, 09:35:48 AM
Was just thinking about how kentucky and Indiana got into that big spat over kentucky trying to bring the game to a neutral site and was wondering if that could happen to the MU UW game. I think if there was a big enough place somewhat between the schools it could be a cool set up with two student sections and such. Just wondering what yall think.
Where? The Johnson Creek Outlet Mall?
The BC and KC are the two largest basketball arenas in the state.
Oconomowoc High School?
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 02, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
Oconomowoc High School?
Hey, the size of the Oconomowoc Arena just doubled......
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 02, 2014, 09:39:19 AM
As far as I'm concerned the game at the Bradley Center is a neutral game. Last time I went it was 40% badger fans.
1998?
I don't know where, I live in Chicago, figured you sconis could have that covered. Just thought itd be interesting. I'm not sure we'd get destroyed in attendence but I just think it'd be kinda cool to have the opposing student sections facing each other and such.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 02, 2014, 09:39:19 AM
As far as I'm concerned the game at the Bradley Center is a neutral game. Last time I went it was 40% badger fans.
when was this? the last few i've been to have been standard home court splits with in-state rival... never noticed any more red than would be expected given how big the BC is...
on the flip side, the last time i went to the Kohl-hole (2011 win) was a big percentage of MU fans. granted, that was the same day as the B1G champ game, but still, was great to see Blue/Gold taking over.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 02, 2014, 09:44:54 AM
1998?
LOL. It actually has been awhile. I think it was 2008. We won that game but the Badgers we leading all of the first half and the place was very loud despite Marquette being behind.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 02, 2014, 09:47:17 AM
I don't know where, I live in Chicago, figured you sconis could have that covered. Just thought itd be interesting. I'm not sure we'd get destroyed in attendence but I just think it'd be kinda cool to have the opposing student sections facing each other and such.
But who wants to look at them for two hours?
Quote from: chapman on December 02, 2014, 09:52:53 AM
But who wants to look at them for two hours?
I'd gladly look at a lot of those Madison girls for two hours instead of many a marquette girl (though in my five years we did move up in that department)
Quote from: chapman on December 02, 2014, 09:52:53 AM
But who wants to look at them for two hours?
We could play "Where will UW Photoshop the minority?"
Miller Park. Let's take away any homecourt advantage MU might have at the BC!
The difference between MU-UW and IU-UK is that the distribution of IU and UK fans is fairly evenly distributed. In the state of Wisconsin, Badger fans outnumber MU fans at least 20 to 1.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on December 02, 2014, 09:58:37 AM
Miller Park. Let's take away any homecourt advantage MU might have at the BC!
The difference between MU-UW and IU-UK is that the distribution of IU and UK fans is fairly evenly distributed. In the state of Wisconsin, Badger fans outnumber MU fans at least 20 to 1.
Correct. A better example of how a neutral site could work is having ND and MU playing a game at the United Center. (I have thought you could have a nice double-header with those two teams, and then DePaul v. either UI or NW.)
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 02, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
Correct. A better example of how a neutral site could work is having ND and MU playing a game at the United Center. (I have thought you could have a nice double-header with those two teams, and then DePaul v. either UI or NW.)
I like that idea but if we included loyola chicago instead against depaul (rather have four private schools)
Northwestern is private. But yeah I get your point. UI could dominate the crowd.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on December 02, 2014, 09:58:37 AM
Miller Park. Let's take away any homecourt advantage MU might have at the BC!
The difference between MU-UW and IU-UK is that the distribution of IU and UK fans is fairly evenly distributed. In the state of Wisconsin, Badger fans outnumber MU fans at least 20 to 1.
except Miller Park isn't really heated in December
Quote from: mu03eng on December 02, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
But bigger than that, as an MU fan, why would we want to do that? Becky would overwhelm the attendance, ya know, them not having jobs and being hippies and all.
No greater truth hath ever been spoken on Scoop.
I like the idea of doing it at a neutral site every year as long as that site is the MECCA!
Neutral site games work best when there is a good facility approximately midway between the schools and both schools are in the same ballpark of overall size/fanbase. Otherwise, the larger school would likely dominate the crowd.
Good examples are Illinois - Mizzou in St. Louis, and the Florida - Georgia football game in Jacksonville.
For us, that would seem to leave us with something like ND in Chicago, as others have mentioned.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 02, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
Correct. A better example of how a neutral site could work is having ND and MU playing a game at the United Center. (I have thought you could have a nice double-header with those two teams, and then DePaul v. either UI or NW.)
This is just what I was thinking. Love the doubleheader idea.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 02, 2014, 09:50:37 AM
LOL. It actually has been awhile. I think it was 2008. We won that game but the Badgers we leading all of the first half and the place was very loud despite Marquette being behind.
I believe that was a Saturday night game. Jerel had a huge second half and MU pulled away. Great crowd that night.
When they used to play while the students were gone, it was a UW home game. Thankfully Crean started scheduling it before finals, and MU got their homecourt back.
Coulda happened in the 2003 Tourney but Bucky fooked up, hey?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 02, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
Correct. A better example of how a neutral site could work is having ND and MU playing a game at the United Center.
Had heard this idea has been floated out there to both schools as recently as this summer. Not sure where things stand, but with Brey and Wojo both being Duke guys, it wouldn't surprise me if they play each other in the next year or two.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 02, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
Correct. A better example of how a neutral site could work is having ND and MU playing a game at the United Center. (I have thought you could have a nice double-header with those two teams, and then DePaul v. either UI or NW.)
Yup, this has been floated before and its a great idea. The United Center would be the ideal place.
How would this impact ticket revenue for MU? Would a neutral game every year net us more money than a sold out home game every other year?
Why would you want to MU/UW game played at a neutral site? It is a big sellout for both schools in the otherwise "buy game" home non-conference schedule.
Why deny that money making opportunity?
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 02, 2014, 10:24:40 AM
Why would you want to MU/UW game played at a neutral site? It is a big sellout for both schools in the otherwise "buy game" home non-conference schedule.
Why deny that money making opportunity?
That was my question as well. However, surely there is still money to be made in a neutral site game. The question is, is it at least half of what a home game makes you, because that is your break-even if you are making it every year instead of every other year.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 02, 2014, 10:17:38 AM
Coulda happened in the 2003 Tourney but Bucky fooked up, hey?
It would have been nice to ride to the Final Four on Bucky's back, but I think the win over UK was much more meaningful from a historical standpoint (first FF since Al, Al and Adolph - dare I say - were arch rivals back in the day, and MU knocking off #1 UK just a couple years after Al's passing).
Miller Park would be the only option, but I have no idea why they'd want to do that. If the temperature is in the 40's it might work, but with lousy sightlines and temporary seats on the field. I don't know if they'd really sell all that many more tickets to make it worthwhile. Maybe they could get up to 30,000 because of the novelty, but an extra 10,000 cheap seats at $10/each only gets you an extra $100,000. All the temporary bleachers and other logistical issues probably eat up that cost. The BC and KC are both great atmospheres for this game, leave it as-is.
They could play on an aircraft carrier...
Quote from: mreezybreezy on December 02, 2014, 11:53:59 AM
They could play on an aircraft carrier...
Made me laugh. Great post for a rookie!
Quote from: Litehouse on December 02, 2014, 11:42:48 AM
Miller Park would be the only option, but I have no idea why they'd want to do that. If the temperature is in the 40's it might work, but with lousy sightlines and temporary seats on the field. I don't know if they'd really sell all that many more tickets to make it worthwhile. Maybe they could get up to 30,000 because of the novelty, but an extra 10,000 cheap seats at $10/each only gets you an extra $100,000. All the temporary bleachers and other logistical issues probably eat up that cost. The BC and KC are both great atmospheres for this game, leave it as-is.
This is why Miller Park will never host a Final Four or any other meaningful college basketball games during the season... if the temperature on the court is entirely dependent upon the weather, nobody's going to schedule such a venue in Wisconsin Nov-Mar. Now, they might do something in Charleston, SC or somewhere like that in the month of November, but hopefully whoever does such a thing figures out how to keep the court's temperature above the dew point.
BC is neutral enough, nothing worse than seeing the red in our house. Love the guys who show in Wisky gear during other MU games, WTF??
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 02, 2014, 09:35:48 AM
was wondering if that could happen to the MU UW game
You can probably stop wondering that.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on December 02, 2014, 09:58:37 AM
The difference between MU-UW and IU-UK is that the distribution of IU and UK fans is fairly evenly distributed. In the state of Wisconsin, Badger fans outnumber MU fans at least 20 to 1.
Closest example would be UK-LU. LU owns Louisville and UK owns the rest of the state. And they alternate like MU-UW.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 02, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Had heard this idea has been floated out there to both schools as recently as this summer. Not sure where things stand, but with Brey and Wojo both being Duke guys, it wouldn't surprise me if they play each other in the next year or two.
It will be interesting, though both being Duke guys could hurt us more than it helps. I asked Wojo about that at the award banquet and he said they don't often play against each other in the non-conference because they were all like family and it l meant someone had to lose. Obviously we'll see going forward but I don't expect home-and-homes with Duke, Northwestern, or Stanford. Not sure if the nature of the Marquette/Notre Dame rivalry might be different.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 02, 2014, 04:20:51 PM
It will be interesting, though both being Duke guys could hurt us more than it helps. I asked Wojo about that at the award banquet and he said they don't often play against each other in the non-conference because they were all like family and it l meant someone had to lose. Obviously we'll see going forward but I don't expect home-and-homes with Duke, Northwestern, or Stanford. Not sure if the nature of the Marquette/Notre Dame rivalry might be different.
Kind of like how Louisville didn't like playing Manhattan. Coaches want to keep their "advantage".
Maybe we can play it on 4never's Lake Michigan yacht.