The proliferation of late starting non-conference home games is getting irritating:
UT-Martin 8:30pm (okay, it's a Friday)
NJIT 8pm (Monday)
ASU 8pm (Tuesday)
Ala A&M 8pm (another Friday)
N. Dakota 8pm (Monday)
Morgan St. 1pm (Sunday - Not late, but the Packer game against Detroit is scheduled to start at noon, could be flexed to 3:25pm)
I don't mind it (too much) for the BE games, of which there are three mid-week 8pm starts. That's 8 of 17 home games starting 8pm or later.
And yes, I understand it's all about TV.
And I'm getting old.
Now get off my lawn!!!!!!!!!!!!
What can you say, TV controls start times.
Grandpa is cranky when you keep him up past his bedtime,
I'm not complaining, and I have to drive 100 miles after the game to get home.
Not really that big a deal if you think about it.
Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 09, 2014, 09:06:41 PM
Not really that big a deal if you think about it.
I think it could begin to have a negative impact on attendance - season ticket holders with kids or early starting jobs skipping those games (which doesn't impact the announced attendance, but certainly impacts the game atmosphere) or non-season ticket holders passing all together.
If you win......they will come.
We may be ,moving into the age where people need more than just the game to come, i mean you can watch every game on TV in HD. There has to start being more benefits to going to games,especially cupcake games. I don't know what they could do,but they may have to get creative.
More T-shirt cannon?
Quote from: tommyc6 on September 09, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
More T-shirt cannon?
HAHAHA i dont recall a tshirt cannon at many MU gmaes, but Tshirts arnt gonna pull people in,
Quote from: warriorchick on September 09, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
Grandpa is cranky when you keep him up past his bedtime,
I'm not complaining, and I have to drive 100 miles after the game to get home.
You guys heard it here. I get to ride shotgun and snooze.
As long as we are one of the three schools in our conference an hour behind the other 7, we will have these late starts. The doubleheader can start at 7 EST with an east coast game and then move "west" for the late game.
Adding SLU and another Midwestern team (Wichita? Or uh...uh...) would keep us from having to be the late game every time.
If FS1 could get the rights to PAC 12, WCC, or WAC games too, then they could do double headers with Big East at 7 EST and then the west coast game at 9. Wishful thinking I guess...
Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 09, 2014, 09:26:51 PM
We may be ,moving into the age where people need more than just the game to come, i mean you can watch every game on TV in HD. There has to start being more benefits to going to games,especially cupcake games. I don't know what they could do,but they may have to get creative.
Offer free admissions to women. Becomes an inexpensive date night.
Quote from: Texas Western on September 09, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
Offer free admissions to women. Becomes an inexpensive date night.
Think so? Have you seen how much they charge for a beer at the BC?
Quote from: warriorchick on September 09, 2014, 09:55:39 PM
Think so? Have you seen how much they charge for a beer at the BC?
We wore army field jackets back in the day. 12 Dog Styles fit comfortably inside that beast.
Quote from: warriorchick on September 09, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
Grandpa is cranky when you keep him up past his bedtime,
I'm not complaining, and I have to drive 100 miles after the game to get home.
So glow sleeps it off the whole way home.
Quote from: jsglow on September 09, 2014, 09:38:07 PM
You guys heard it here. I get to ride shotgun and snooze.
Carpool?
Quote from: ChuckyChip on September 09, 2014, 09:15:29 PM
I think it could begin to have a negative impact on attendance - season ticket holders with kids or early starting jobs skipping those games (which doesn't impact the announced attendance, but certainly impacts the game atmosphere) or non-season ticket holders passing all together.
But later start times have a much greater positive effect on student attendance.
I live in the Eastern time zone which is an hour later. Take a nap.
Don't mind the 8PM starts, just wish the NCAA would try and keep the game to 2 hours. The timeouts, plus the extra foul calls made for some 2:15/2:20 games (I'm looking at you home Georgetown game).
Quote from: ODMU238 on September 09, 2014, 09:38:38 PM
As long as we are one of the three schools in our conference an hour behind the other 7, we will have these late starts. The doubleheader can start at 7 EST with an east coast game and then move "west" for the late game.
Adding SLU and another Midwestern team (Wichita? Or uh...uh...) would keep us from having to be the late game every time.
If FS1 could get the rights to PAC 12, WCC, or WAC games too, then they could do double headers with Big East at 7 EST and then the west coast game at 9. Wishful thinking I guess...
FS1 does have the rights to 20 plus Pac-12 games and Conf. USA
Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 09, 2014, 09:26:51 PM
We may be ,moving into the age where people need more than just the game to come, i mean you can watch every game on TV in HD. There has to start being more benefits to going to games,especially cupcake games. I don't know what they could do,but they may have to get creative.
Maybe a brand new arena with lots of amenities and additional entertainment options would do the trick?
Quote from: jsglow on September 09, 2014, 09:38:07 PM
You guys heard it here. I get to ride shotgun and snooze.
Wait a minute... she's a Tennessee girl.
Shouldn't she be riding shotgun?
and an hour later start here in Indy (EST 9pm)
--> agreed that it is not ideal for week nights
Quote from: Litehouse on September 10, 2014, 08:42:10 AM
Maybe a brand new arena with lots of amenities and additional entertainment options would do the trick?
Build it
ChunkyChip .. I am right there with you about the 8pm start times. Brutal.
My wife and I usually scan the schedule to break the games into 3 clusters .. games we don't want to miss and need babysitters, games that we could get a couple extra tickets and bring the boys (non-conference), and games that we should find someone to take the tickets.
Since a ton of the non-con games are 8pm, we won't be taking our kids to those .. gonna be a lot of games we pass on.
Quote from: warriorchick on September 09, 2014, 09:55:39 PM
Think so? Have you seen how much they charge for a beer at the BC?
11$ for a pint at yankee stadium.
I'll take the 8pm starts over the 6pm starts on weekdays TBH. Much easier for me to leave work, get to Milwaukee, have a beer and dinner with my friends and then go to the game. 6pm games mean I have to rush out of work and barely make tip off.
Quote from: Ari Gold on September 10, 2014, 06:40:22 PM
I'll take the 8pm starts over the 6pm starts on weekdays TBH. Much easier for me to leave work, get to Milwaukee, have a beer and dinner with my friends and then go to the game. 6pm games mean I have to rush out of work and barely make tip off.
I like 8 better to, much less traffic going on,more relaxed enviroment later at night, just like it.
The BC is a greater bar on a Friday and Saturday night. Though it is mostly bucks games, you get 2 beers for 8 bucks without tipping.
The BC is a greater bar on a Friday and Saturday night. Though it is mostly bucks games, you get 2 beers for 8 bucks without tipping.
Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 09, 2014, 09:26:51 PM
There has to start being more benefits to going to games,especially cupcake games. I don't know what they could do,but they may have to get creative.
Maybe actual cupcakes at the games.
The games will end after 10pm, no different than going to a baseball game that starts at 7pm.
Quote from: Litehouse on September 10, 2014, 08:42:10 AM
Maybe a brand new arena with lots of amenities and additional entertainment options would do the trick?
Am I missing something? We were 14th in attendance this last year, and we SUCKED.
When have we struggled to fill the seats since Crean took over?
attendance isn't a problem.
Quote from: Ganzer's Source on September 13, 2014, 12:29:40 AM
Am I missing something? We were 14th in attendance this last year, and we SUCKED.
When have we struggled to fill the seats since Crean took over?
attendance isn't a problem.
I mean, if you want to talk about literally filling every seat...
If MU wants to fill every upper corner seat, they need to schedule ND or Cuse or Louis on a Sat. Night. Then it will fill up.
Selling tickets is one thing. Filling the seats with the sold tickets is another. Over the last few seasns there have been lots of empty seats.
Quote from: Ganzer's Source on September 13, 2014, 12:29:40 AM
Am I missing something? We were 14th in attendance this last year, and we SUCKED.
When have we struggled to fill the seats since Crean took over?
attendance isn't a problem.
You certainly have a point there. MU is only competing against itself in that regard. -- That being said, last year, the entire year we didn't "SUCK," in that, until the last 3 weeks of the season, there was a path to the Dance and people were still engaged in the season.
This year, we're projected to finish 9th in the BE .. and we're generally thought of as a hopeful NIT team. Unknown coach, few returning starters.
That doesn't spell disaster, no. But I wouldn't be surprised to have attendance float downward, butts in seats go down extra.
Quote from: Ganzer's Source on September 13, 2014, 12:29:40 AM
Am I missing something? We were 14th in attendance this last year, and we SUCKED.
When have we struggled to fill the seats since Crean took over?
attendance isn't a problem.
What you're missing is that tickets are sold based on the previous year's performance coupled with pre-season expectations--not how the in-season performance winds up.
We were 14th last year because we were coming off an Elite Eight, had an outstanding recruiting class, and expectations were sky high.
I think people will be excited to see what a new coach will do with this talent. I think attendance will be about the same as previous seasons.