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Title: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: Tugg Speedman on August 11, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
Are you happy Ners?

On Point: Derrick Wilson Blog Entry No. 8

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/080614aaa.html

Aug. 6, 2014

Hey what's up everyone?

I am sad to say that summer school ends for me this week and this will be the last blog post of the summer. On the other hand, I am extremely excited that summer is over which means school is about to start and that means basketball season is near.

Let me take you back down memory lane for a second. I can remember like it was yesterday my first summer on campus. Trying to adjust to the constant working out and playing against guys who are all on the same physical level was difficult. I went to prep school, so I was used to being on my own, but being in a new city and being the young guy on the team was a process I had to go through all over again and I have to say I enjoyed it. My summers in Milwaukee have been great for the most part, but from as a basketball standpoint this was my most productive summer yet. I've gotten up over 20,000 shots, have had multiple workout sessions enhancing my skills and also have started to eat healthier, which has resulted in me dropping a few pounds and making my body feel better. So I'm really excited to translate my offseason work on to the court.

I also have to thank all the managers, my teammates and coaches for making this summer the best in my four years here. Without them pushing me and making me better everyday I feel that I wouldn't have improved as much as did. On another note, I will miss working with the people in the communications department for Marquette Athletics and have a new-found respect for what they do up here day in and day out. Lastly, I have to recognize all the people who supported and read my blog this summer. I appreciate that.

Well that's it for me, I like Milwaukee but it's time for me to head home and see the family before school starts. Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the summer and be safe. Peace out y'all. Until next time.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: brandx on August 11, 2014, 05:30:55 PM
I guess my reply is "Why wait until the summer of your SENIOR season to do this?"

He knew he was a bad shooter and the coaching staff knew he was a bad shooter. That was my problem with the previous coaching staff. Too many guys were the same as seniors as they were as sophomores.

Vander hit more jumpers as a junior, but was still a bad jump shooter with bad form. In 3 years, wasn't there any coach who saw this?

Mayo was just as careless with the ball as a junior as when he was a sophomore.

Did we see anything different in Jamil's game as a senior that we didn't see two years earlier?

Was Gardner's game improved as a senior or was it just that he played more minutes.

Recruiting is obviously extremely important, but aren't coaches still supposed to coach? I see this aspect as a huge improvement with the new regime. I think they will be much better teachers/coaches.

We'll have to wait to see if they can recruit as well.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: wadesworld on August 11, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Because we don't already have enough threads on this topic, so why not make 1 more?
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 11, 2014, 07:45:32 PM
I guess my reply is "Why wait until the summer of your SENIOR season to do this?"

He knew he was a bad shooter and the coaching staff knew he was a bad shooter. That was my problem with the previous coaching staff. Too many guys were the same as seniors as they were as sophomores.

Vander hit more jumpers as a junior, but was still a bad jump shooter with bad form. In 3 years, wasn't there any coach who saw this?

Mayo was just as careless with the ball as a junior as when he was a sophomore.

Did we see anything different in Jamil's game as a senior that we didn't see two years earlier?

Was Gardner's game improved as a senior or was it just that he played more minutes.

Recruiting is obviously extremely important, but aren't coaches still supposed to coach? I see this aspect as a huge improvement with the new regime. I think they will be much better teachers/coaches.

We'll have to wait to see if they can recruit as well.

They got tougher! And that's all that counts in basketball
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: ErickJD08 on August 11, 2014, 07:58:16 PM
I guess my reply is "Why wait until the summer of your SENIOR season to do this?"

He knew he was a bad shooter and the coaching staff knew he was a bad shooter. That was my problem with the previous coaching staff. Too many guys were the same as seniors as they were as sophomores.

Vander hit more jumpers as a junior, but was still a bad jump shooter with bad form. In 3 years, wasn't there any coach who saw this?

Mayo was just as careless with the ball as a junior as when he was a sophomore.

Did we see anything different in Jamil's game as a senior that we didn't see two years earlier?

Was Gardner's game improved as a senior or was it just that he played more minutes.

Recruiting is obviously extremely important, but aren't coaches still supposed to coach? I see this aspect as a huge improvement with the new regime. I think they will be much better teachers/coaches.

We'll have to wait to see if they can recruit as well.

To give credit where credit is due, Otule, Crowder, Butler, and Junior all were much improved by the tome they left vs when they started
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: bilsu on August 11, 2014, 08:00:31 PM
To give credit where credit is due, Otule, Crowder, Butler, and Junior all were much improved by the tome they left vs when they started
Otule was physically improved, but I am not sure his game improved that much.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: HutchwasClutch on August 11, 2014, 08:11:22 PM
Otule was physically improved, but I am not sure his game improved that much.

+1
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: GGGG on August 11, 2014, 08:18:25 PM
Vander improved quite a bit from year one to year three.  Let's not pretend otherwise.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: HutchwasClutch on August 11, 2014, 08:18:38 PM
I'll be thrilled if Derrick can hit just 60-65% of his FT's as any self respecting PG should be able to in his sleep.   That is just beyond astounding that he's never in a season hit even 50% of his FT's!  Words can't describe how embarrassingly bad that truly is for anyone, especially a guard.

Derrick and his playing time, role, have all been discussed to death on this board, so I won't go further than those head shaking stats.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: brandx on August 11, 2014, 08:25:24 PM
Vander improved quite a bit from year one to year three.  Let's not pretend otherwise.

Agreed.

My point though was that the form on his jumper looked just as bad by his junior year.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: tower912 on August 11, 2014, 08:29:22 PM
Otule was physically improved, but I am not sure his game improved that much.

With the injuries and the blindness in one eye, CO reached his ceiling.   Playing a game like basketball with such rapid movement with impaired depth perception is damn near impossible.   What a great guy, role model, warrior.   
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on August 11, 2014, 08:33:03 PM
Based only on his blog from this summer, Derrick is a solid representative for MU.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 11, 2014, 08:36:01 PM
Because we don't already have enough threads on this topic, so why not make 1 more?

Well, it is from Derrick's blog, so it gets a pass...so far...
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: wadesworld on August 11, 2014, 10:00:39 PM
Based only on his blog from this summer, Derrick is a solid representative for MU.

+1

Well, it is from Derrick's blog, so it gets a pass...so far...

Good call. Was more tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: cheebs09 on August 11, 2014, 10:25:46 PM
Vander improved quite a bit from year one to year three.  Let's not pretend otherwise.

Totally agree. Also, didn't Paint Touches share some stats that he was the best at taking one dribble and shooting his junior year? His shot may not have been text book, but his shooting was much better as a junior. Also, he finished much better around the basket his junior year.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: Johnny B on August 11, 2014, 11:01:24 PM
Well see if it even matters, honestly id rather see DU WILL out there as he is a much better shooter.  8-)
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: raul on August 12, 2014, 12:23:18 AM
Derrick is just saying thanks to MU and the community and hopes he can prove himself worthy of playing for MU on the court this year. That is a classy act, lets not bash him for that. Of course if he is not the best option for the team this year then give the next guy a chance to prove himself. Which may very well be the other D.Wilson.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: MU82 on August 12, 2014, 01:16:52 AM
Agreed.

My point though was that the form on his jumper looked just as bad by his junior year.

Agreed, but there are Hall of Famers who made a lot of long jumpers despite pretty bad shooting form. Jamaal Wilkes and George Gervin leap to mind.

And don't even get me started about Jim Furyk's golf swing!

Sometimes, coaches will totally retool an athlete's fundamentals. But sometimes a coach will only tweak the form - in Vander's case, they didn't feel they could totally change his shot but they did make sure he went straight up to shoot and landed in the same spot, etc. - so as not to mess up a guy's mind too much.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: River rat on August 12, 2014, 09:09:59 AM
+1

Dead wrong otules hook shot n pivot moves were non existant when he arrived
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on August 12, 2014, 11:30:15 AM
The hook shot itself hadn't existed before he arrived

FTFY
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: mujivitz06 on August 12, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
It would be amazing to see what our boys could do if their fans put in as much energy supporting them unwaveringly as they do tearing them down.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: wadesworld on August 12, 2014, 12:23:35 PM
It would be amazing to see what our boys could do if their fans put in as much energy supporting them unwaveringly as they do tearing them down.

I bet they could do the same things, regardless of whether MUScoop is praising or criticizing them.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: mujivitz06 on August 12, 2014, 12:40:13 PM
I bet they could do the same things, regardless of whether MUScoop is praising or criticizing them.

I don't just mean on Scoop.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on August 12, 2014, 12:40:31 PM
I watched Derrick intently during warm-ups several times last season.

He makes a ton of free throws, and his stroke looks good. I don't know if it's just confidence, fatigue, mental, etc.

Pumping up a bunch of shots in the summer is step 1.

Step 2 will be confidently and aggressively taking shots in practices and scrimmages. He looked pretty strong with the ball last season in the Halloween scrimmage, but obviously that didn't translate to long-term success during the season.

Step 3 is obviously making shots in actual games. It will be interesting to watch how hard the coaches push him in this capacity. If he has shown the ability in practice, they might push him to shoot early and often so he can build some confidence during actual games, (especially cupcake games).

I really like him as a player and as a person, so I'm hoping he has a great senior season.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: dgies9156 on August 12, 2014, 12:54:04 PM
Are you happy Ners?

On Point: Derrick Wilson Blog Entry No. 8

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/080614aaa.html

 I've gotten up over 20,000 shots, have had multiple workout sessions enhancing my skills and also have started to eat healthier, which has resulted in me dropping a few pounds and making my body feel better. So I'm really excited to translate my offseason work on to the court.[/b]

What I said on April 1 in an open message to Coach Wojo:

You'll hear our point guard can't hit the urinal in the men's room, much less a basket with a basketball. He's likely better than he showed last year. But do us and him a favor! Have him him take 1,000 jumpers a day until October 15th and he can't come in until he hits 50 in a row.

Myabe it's obvious. Or perhaps, just possibly, Coach Wojo reads Scoop!
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: THRILLHO on August 12, 2014, 01:51:24 PM
I watched Derrick intently during warm-ups several times last season.

He makes a ton of free throws, and his stroke looks good. I don't know if it's just confidence, fatigue, mental, etc.


He also seemed to make it whenever he jacked one up after a whistle. His form definitely looked looser on those as well. I wonder whether it could be a speed of the game issue, or to be optimistic, that he was tight about shooting under Buzz. In the latter case we might reasonably expect some improved shooting from Derrick.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: willie warrior on August 12, 2014, 01:58:48 PM
Hoo Boy. After reading some of these posts, it appears that some are now building the case that Derrick will be the "savior" to this season's team. I sure hope he will be, but there has been no evidence of that up to this point. Maybe the 20,000 shots this summer is the game changer.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: GOO on August 12, 2014, 02:12:31 PM
Two comments.

1. So that is about 250 shots a day this summer so far.  Not really that many in my opinion.

2. The emphasis should be on shots made, not shots taken.  This was how Novak did it. He made a couple hundred shots and called that a success.  Novak created an incentive to make shots and take them seriously.  Not just volume. 
     If Dwill made 150 shots a day, I'd be more impressed than just putting up 20K shots this summer. 
      I'd rather see an emphasis no shots made.  Would create more focus on making shots efficiently to get out of the gym or                                           do something different.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on August 12, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
Hoo Boy. After reading some of these posts, it appears that some are now building the case that Derrick will be the "savior" to this season's team. I sure hope he will be, but there has been no evidence of that up to this point. Maybe the 20,000 shots this summer is the game changer.

Yes, saying that a player might be improved this season is setting my sights too high.

Thanks for setting me straight. I feel better now.

Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: mileskishnish72 on August 12, 2014, 05:17:37 PM
I hope Derrick's work pays off for him and MU - I'll be rooting for him.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: bilsu on August 12, 2014, 05:55:36 PM
A lot of posters were assuming Derrick last year wouldalso  be this year's Derrick. I always wondered what effect Wojo would have on his game. I also figured he would more likely play the two or three than the one. He was never a point guard.
Title: Re: Dwill ... 20,000 shots this summer, Eating Better and Lost Weight
Post by: tower912 on August 12, 2014, 06:56:58 PM
A lot of posters were assuming Derrick last year wouldalso  be this year's Derrick. I always wondered what effect Wojo would have on his game. I also figured he would more likely play the two or three than the one. He was never a point guard.

Foul trouble or an injury and he could end up guarding a 4.