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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on August 11, 2014, 05:13:01 PM
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/270763431.html
BMO Harris Bradley Center bids on NCAA tourney games
Marquette University, the BMO Harris Bradley Center and Visit Milwaukee have jointly submitted a bid to the NCAA for future men's NCAA basketball tournament games.
The bids are for preliminary rounds in 2016, 2017 and 2018.
The BMO Harris Bradley Center has hosted NCAA men's basketball games six separate times. The most recent was earlier this year for second- and third-round games.
Debate is well under way to replace the arena, first opened in October 1988, with a new, multipurpose arena. The NBA wants a new arena by 2017 for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Yet while the discussion continues, BMO Harris Bradley Center officials say they will work to keep the arena viable. The Bucks lease at the arena ends in 2017.
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Isnt this bad for MU? One less location to play close to home?
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Isnt this bad for MU? One less location to place close to home?
Yes, but good to collect the revenue (as they will probably be playing players by 2016 so they will need it).
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Isnt this bad for MU? One less location to play close to home?
Oh sure, because the selection committee has done us so many favors in recent memory.
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Tournament games are and always will be a great thing for the city. Not only a fun couple of days and a buzz around downtown, but a nice little boost to the local economy as well. Hope they're successful. I missed this year for the first time in the Bradley Center era of NCAA tourney games, so I really hope it gets back here quickly.
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win win win. marquette, city of milwaukee, wisconsin(the state that is), and basketball
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win win win. marquette, city of milwaukee, wisconsin(the state that is), and basketball
The one caveat is I never want to again see the Badgers and their fans celebrating in our building. If that was a true neutral site game, they lose to Oregon. The BC crowd willed them to that win.
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Yes, but good to collect the revenue (as they will probably be playing players by 2016 so they will need it).
I wonder how much MU has made in the past from these events? It strikes me more as a prestigue thing than a money maker for MU. It certainly brings money into the city, but that in itself does not benefit MU. Does anybody know what a host school gets?
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I wonder how much MU has made in the past from these events? It strikes me more as a prestigue thing than a money maker for MU. It certainly brings money into the city, but that in itself does not benefit MU. Does anybody know what a host school gets?
I'd want this if MU didn't make a penny off of being the host school. It's a great event for the city and a real boost to the downtown economy for one weekend anyway. It's not like Milwaukee is oozing with cool things to do in the middle of March!! It's a unique and nationally popular event in a city that loves sports, a basketball junkie dream.
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I'd want this if MU didn't make a penny off of being the host school. It's a great event for the city and a real boost to the downtown economy for one weekend anyway. It's not like Milwaukee is oozing with cool things to do in the middle of March!! It's a unique and nationally popular event in a city that loves sports, a basketball junkie dream.
I agree, but I was questioning the post that said MU would need the revenue to pay its players. I did not think it was a revenue thing and that is why I am asking.
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I agree, but I was questioning the post that said MU would need the revenue to pay its players. I did not think it was a revenue thing and that is why I am asking.
I'm with you bilsu, I was kind of wondering myself the financial, if any, impact for the host school. I've got to believe there's something they get from it.
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I'm with you bilsu, I was kind of wondering myself the financial, if any, impact for the host school. I've got to believe there's something they get from it.
If not, then let UWM bid with the BC leaving as the venue will be open for us to play in.
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Isnt this bad for MU? One less location to play close to home?
In 2018 we could be playing in the new downtown stadium. Then we earn a high seed in the NCAAs and play the opening rounds at the BC (which is allowable b/c it's not our home floor).
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If not, then let UWM bid with the BC leaving as the venue will be open for us to play in.
Not how it works.
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In 2018 we could be playing in the new downtown stadium. Then we earn a high seed in the NCAAs and play the opening rounds at the BC (which is allowable b/c it's not our home floor).
Sounds good to me. So that rule that stated you must play "x" amount of miles from your campus no longer applies? I dig it.
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Yes, but good to collect the revenue (as they will probably be playing players by 2016 so they will need it).
Can't we get UWM to sponsor the tournament so the Bradley Center WON'T be considered our home floor?
Just a thought!
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Can't we get UWM to sponsor the tournament so the Bradley Center WON'T be considered our home floor?
Just a thought!
I believe the rule is still if you play more than 3 games on a court (not counting tournaments), then it is considered a "home" court and you can't play there in the NCAAs.
This is usually why Villanova gets more creative when Philly is hosting games.
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Does nothing for MU, makes certain we don't play close, gives the Badgers home games.
DECLINE.
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Does nothing for MU, makes certain we don't play close, gives the Badgers home games.
DECLINE.
I agree. The only way we should bid again is if the Badgers are willing to host at the kohl center as well.
But chances are they wont, or they will pull some $hit like playing 12 Neutral Site games at Edgerton HS.
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Does nothing for MU, makes certain we don't play close, gives the Badgers home games.
DECLINE.
We cannot play in Milwaukee, if it is held here and we cannot play in Milwaukee if it is not held here. Beisdes that, if you are not a top four seed you can get shipped anywhere.
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Does Milwaukee bidding and winning mean Chicago cannot get it at the same time? Is the United Center even interested?
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We cannot play in Milwaukee, if it is held here and we cannot play in Milwaukee if it is not held here. Beisdes that, if you are not a top four seed you can get shipped anywhere.
That is why we dont host it again until Madison is willing.
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Does nothing for MU, makes certain we don't play close, gives the Badgers home games.
DECLINE.
It's good for the city of Milwaukee.
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It's good for the city of Milwaukee.
But bad for Marquette.
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But bad for Marquette.
Why?
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Marquette doesn't make any money on the deal, and some of their personnel have to work it for the NCAA. But if it really were bad for MU, why would they continue to bid? Look, it helps the City to have a bunch of visitors downtown, and if all Marquette is doing is helping the city out, that should be supported.
Really I can't believe that people would think this is a bad thing.
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Marquette doesn't make any money on the deal, and some of their personnel have to work it for the NCAA. But if it really were bad for MU, why would they continue to bid? Look, it helps the City to have a bunch of visitors downtown, and if all Marquette is doing is helping the city out, that should be supported.
Really I can't believe that people would think this is a bad thing.
My understanding is the NCAA has the TV deal but the local school/arena get a piece of the gate/parking/concessions.
No one does this out of charity.
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They might get something. They aren't getting rich from it in any respect.
But helping the city in which you are located isn't just charity. It's good business.
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Ok, ok, we'll host in exchange for Avenue Commons!
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They might get something. They aren't getting rich from it in any respect.
But helping the city in which you are located isn't just charity. It's good business.
So 16 home games and fielding an elite team most years is not enough?
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We really are cynical about everything aren't we?
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So 16 home games and fielding an elite team most years is not enough?
Call Bill Cords and ask. Seriously, Marquette wouldn't do this if they weren't getting something out of it.
We really are cynical about everything aren't we?
No sh*t. Most places think this is a cool thing. Marquette thinks its a cool thing.
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We cannot play in Milwaukee, if it is held here and we cannot play in Milwaukee if it is not held here. Beisdes that, if you are not a top four seed you can get shipped anywhere.
This is actually not true. We can play in Milwaukee, we just can't play at the Bradley Center since it is our home court.
As someone previously mentioned Villanova gets around this by only playing 3 games a year at the Wells Fargo Center. This way the arena is not considered their home court and they are eligible to play there.
If we played our home games else where in Milwaukee and we only played in the Bradley Center 3 times a year we could play there in the tournament..
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This is actually not true. We can play in Milwaukee, we just can't play at the Bradley Center since it is our home court.
As someone previously mentioned Villanova gets around this by only playing 3 games a year at the Wells Fargo Center. This way the arena is not considered their home court and they are eligible to play there.
If we played our home games else where in Milwaukee and we only played in the Bradley Center 3 times a year we could play there in the tournament..
*and if we are not the hosts. So theoretically, if UWM hosts the games at Miller Park or the MECCA, we could play there. For Villanova, I believe the A-10 or another conference was the host when it was played there.
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I think Nova was the host the times they did that
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I think Nova was the host the times they did that
Yes, Nova was the host. They simply scheduled the maximum # of games at the tourney site those seasons.
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*and if we are not the hosts. So theoretically, if UWM hosts the games at Miller Park or the MECCA, we could play there. For Villanova, I believe the A-10 or another conference was the host when it was played there.
Yeah that part I'm not sure about. When I looked into it all I found was the 3 game part but couldn't find out anything about being the host school. I would think that would be correct but since most schools play on campus and not in the major cities it doesn't come up that often, since in our case there isn't another place for us to play.
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This is actually not true. We can play in Milwaukee, we just can't play at the Bradley Center since it is our home court.
As someone previously mentioned Villanova gets around this by only playing 3 games a year at the Wells Fargo Center. This way the arena is not considered their home court and they are eligible to play there.
If we played our home games else where in Milwaukee and we only played in the Bradley Center 3 times a year we could play there in the tournament..
New stadium coming in 2017, if reports are to be believed. So we can play in the BC in 2018 (assuming this doesn't switch to the new stadium).
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Seriously - how often do we get placed in the closest arena to Milwaukee let alone getting a home game because MKE is building a new arena.
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New stadium coming in 2017, if reports are to be believed. So we can play in the BC in 2018 (assuming this doesn't switch to the new stadium).
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Yes, Nova was the host. They simply scheduled the maximum # of games at the tourney site those seasons.
No, Villanova has not hosted any of the NCAA games at the Wells Fargo Center, and they've only scheduled 3 games there every year it's an NCAA site.
In 2006, when it happened the first time, the A-10 conference was the host at the Wachovia/Wells Fargo Center.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament
In 2009, which is the time most of us remember because they went to the Final Four, St. Joe's was the host at the Wachovia/Wells Fargo Center.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament
In 2013, Temple was the host at the Wells Fargo Center, so it technically could have happened again but Nova got a #9 seed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament