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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: ChicosBailBonds on June 19, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
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Since the UW fans who thought Buzz was horrible, stupid, etc, today find him to be a genius...LOL.
Thought this article from this week about a UW basketball player raping a woman was interesting. Note, there are so many hyphen schools in the UW system, hard to say which one. Then again, the author certainly states it was a large college campus in a small college town, so we can strike UW Milwaukee and UW Green Bay off the list. She says he was a DI player, so that leaves only one school left. Or maybe he's not DI, and he plays elsewhere.
http://jezebel.com/what-to-do-when-your-rapist-is-a-varsity-athlete-1573222752/all
I'm sure if it was Madison, the top notch policing like this in Madison on campus http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/uw-madison-police-captain-fired-thousands-pics-unknowing-women-article-1.1810588 , will get to the bottom of it.
Looking forward to Breadtree and crew riding to the defense, especially the ones attacking MU for our sexual assault issues (which were disgusting in their own right). Makes you wonder how many things go on in Madison (and elsewhere) that are covered up, similar to Florida State.
Hope the woman is ok.
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It says in there he was a senior and she called him 6'6, that narrows it down quite well, Zach Bohannon?
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Great. This thread will go places.
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Classic Democratic Republic of Madison shenanigans.
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Great. This thread will go places.
Call it a public service announcement against the exploitation of women by athletes that think they can do whatever the hell they want.
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Right. It's awesome for us to make guesses on a public message board about who on the UW basketball team might be a rapist.
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Call it a public service announcement against the exploitation of women by athletes that think they can do whatever the hell they want.
Boy that logo looks a lot like the logo for Rutgers....better check with the patent department to see if it cancelled Rutgers trademark.
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Right. It's awesome for us to make guesses on a public message board about who on the UW basketball team might be a rapist.
You can go to the UW board and do the same thing...it's all about the spirit of cooperation between the two schools.
http://buckyville.yuku.com/topic/73359/Article-about-varsity-athletes-and-rape#.U6MwtijjbIs
Of course, the beautiful irony is they had no trouble when the shoes are on the other foot, be it Marquette, Michigan, Minnesota, etc.
As stated, we don't know what UW basketball team, only a UW basketball team.
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Since the UW fans who thought Buzz was horrible, stupid, etc, today find him to be a genius...LOL.
Thought this article from this week about a UW basketball player raping a woman was interesting. Note, there are so many hyphen schools in the UW system, hard to say which one. Then again, the author certainly states it was a large college campus in a small college town, so we can strike UW Milwaukee and UW Green Bay off the list. She says he was a DI player, so that leaves only one school left. Or maybe he's not DI, and he plays elsewhere.
http://jezebel.com/what-to-do-when-your-rapist-is-a-varsity-athlete-1573222752/all
I'm sure if it was Madison, the top notch policing like this in Madison on campus http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/uw-madison-police-captain-fired-thousands-pics-unknowing-women-article-1.1810588 , will get to the bottom of it.
Looking forward to Breadtree and crew riding to the defense, especially the ones attacking MU for our sexual assault issues (which were disgusting in their own right). Makes you wonder how many things go on in Madison (and elsewhere) that are covered up, similar to Florida State.
Hope the woman is ok.
Why couldn't it be Green Bay? Green Bay is a smaller town than Madison. UW-GB is a massive campus.
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You can go to the UW board and do the same thing...it's all about the spirit of cooperation between the two schools.
http://buckyville.yuku.com/topic/73359/Article-about-varsity-athletes-and-rape#.U6MwtijjbIs
Of course, the beautiful irony is they had no trouble when the shoes are on the other foot, be it Marquette, Michigan, Minnesota, etc.
Right. So let's engage in the same behavior.
As Jesus once said "It's pretty much OK to do anything to someone as long as they have done it to you first."
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Right. So let's engage in the same behavior.
As Jesus once said "It's pretty much OK to do anything to someone as long as they have done it to you first."
Did Jesus also say go F yourself? ;)
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Why couldn't it be Green Bay? Green Bay is a smaller town than Madison. UW-GB is a massive campus.
It could be, though the part where she says college town, well I guess in my view college town isn't Green Bay. But I do say it could be any UW DI school, of she may be wrong about it being DI.
I have no doubt that if she said a DI Michigan school, the Badger faithful would react accordingly.
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It could be, though the part where she says college town, well I guess in my view college town isn't Green Bay. But I do say it could be any UW DI school, of she may be wrong about it being DI.
I have no doubt that if she said a DI Michigan school, the Badger faithful would react accordingly.
Lots of "coulds" here. Could be true, could be fiction. but by all means, let's hang somebody.
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Classic Democratic Republic of Madison shenanigans.
Socialists and cultists have a reputation for this sort of thing, but they call it "re-education."
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It could be, though the part where she says college town, well I guess in my view college town isn't Green Bay. But I do say it could be any UW DI school, of she may be wrong about it being DI.
I have no doubt that if she said a DI Michigan school, the Badger faithful would react accordingly.
Although it will always be dominated by the Packers, Green Bay actually is a decent college town, maybe not quite as much as Madison but UWGB is a big part of the culture and sports landscape in Green Bay. The campus is massive, one of the biggest in the UW system, and most cultural/sporting events outside of the packers is through UWGB, either at the Weidner Center or Phoenix sports. UWGB's cheerleaders even serve as the Packers' cheerleaders.
The article may well be talking about Madison but I wouldn't be surprised if it was UWGB.
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Lots of "coulds" here. Could be true, could be fiction. but by all means, let's hang somebody.
If it is true, it would seem that hangings (or any other sort of unsanctioned corporal punishment) is the only recourse that women like Megan have for justice without the unnecessary and undeserving drama.
You would think in a place like Madison, they would be a little more protective of rape victims than they are in South Bend... but it seems that "D-I privilege" is everywhere these days. Honestly, I don't know how much longer a civilized society can tolerate this. When they start having the hearings in D.C. over the BCS breaking away, I hope the Megans can muster the courage to speak up... otherwise, as soon as you start paying these kids and enabling them further, this crap is going to spiral out of control.
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Although it will always be dominated by the Packers, Green Bay actually is a decent college town, maybe not quite as much as Madison but UWGB is a big part of the culture and sports landscape in Green Bay. The campus is massive, one of the biggest in the UW system, and most cultural/sporting events outside of the packers is through UWGB, either at the Weidner Center or Phoenix sports. UWGB's cheerleaders even serve as the Packers' cheerleaders.
The article may well be talking about Madison but I wouldn't be surprised if it was UWGB.
Don't like this thread and am only speaking to GB as a "college town". Lived in GB for several years and I would hardly characterize GB as a "college town". Certainly, the Weidner Center brings cultural advantages to the town. But, the campus is really rather "distant" from the town in its location. Phoenix sports are rather low key. Otherwise, GB is Packers 24/7.
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If it is true, it would seem that hangings (or any other sort of unsanctioned corporal punishment) is the only recourse that women like Megan have for justice without the unnecessary and undeserving drama.
You would think in a place like Madison, they would be a little more protective of rape victims than they are in South Bend... but it seems that "D-I privilege" is everywhere these days. Honestly, I don't know how much longer a civilized society can tolerate this. When they start having the hearings in D.C. over the BCS breaking away, I hope the Megans can muster the courage to speak up... otherwise, as soon as you start paying these kids and enabling them further, this crap is going to spiral out of control.
Really??? Giving athletes (who don't have the oppurtunity to work part-time) a couple thousand $$$ a month is going to cause a rape epidemic?
May you and Chicos could put your heads together and write a thesis about this nonsense.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
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Don't like this thread and am only speaking to GB as a "college town". Lived in GB for several years and I would hardly characterize GB as a "college town". Certainly, the Weidner Center brings cultural advantages to the town. But, the campus is really rather "distant" from the town in its location. Phoenix sports are rather low key. Otherwise, GB is Packers 24/7.
Agree to disagree. I grew up 40 minutes outside of Green Bay and I have the opposite impression.
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The Phoenix had two 6'6" senior basketball players last year.
So, if it is Green Bay, we can look forward to bonus pages debating which of the two it was more likely to be.
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Really??? Giving athletes (who don't have the oppurtunity to work part-time) a couple thousand $$$ a month is going to cause a rape epidemic?
May you and Chicos could put your heads together and write a thesis about this nonsense.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
There you go again, saying athletes don't have the opportunity to work part time. Yes they do. That has been legislated in the NCAA a long time ago.
I guess if you repeat your lie enough eventually someone will believe you.
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Agree to disagree. I grew up 40 minutes outside of Green Bay and I have the opposite impression.
OHhhkaay
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Chicos is the goddam worst.
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Really??? Giving athletes (who don't have the oppurtunity to work part-time) a couple thousand $$$ a month is going to cause a rape epidemic?
May you and Chicos could put your heads together and write a thesis about this nonsense.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It's not the money that enables the kids... it's the system that has enough money to pay the kids that enables the kids. Kid isn't going to go out and start raping just because he has a couple hondos in his pocket. But if the kid has a couple hondos, that means the school and TV networks are making more money than when the kids weren't being paid. Therefore, the school and networks have more to lose financially; ipso facto they would have an even greater incentive than they do today to "protect" their athletes. More cover-ups enables more crime.
In other words, the money won't drive a kid who has no predisposition to sexual assault or rape, but there are inevitably going to be some "borderline" athletes who stop just short of it realizing the consequences of their actions... assuming that the population of athletes 5-10 years are characteristically the same as they are today, then in a system where consequences are swept under the rug in greater frequency, fewer of these "borderline" kids are going to stop to consider the consequences.
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It's not the money that enables the kids... it's the system that has enough money to pay the kids that enables the kids. Kid isn't going to go out and start raping just because he has a couple hondos in his pocket. But if the kid has a couple hondos, that means the school and TV networks are making more money than when the kids weren't being paid. Therefore, the school and networks have more to lose financially; ipso facto they would have an even greater incentive than they do today to "protect" their athletes. More cover-ups enables more crime.
In other words, the money won't drive a kid who has no predisposition to sexual assault or rape, but there are inevitably going to be some "borderline" athletes who stop just short of it realizing the consequences of their actions... assuming that the population of athletes 5-10 years are characteristically the same as they are today, then in a system where consequences are swept under the rug in greater frequency, fewer of these "borderline" kids are going to stop to consider the consequences.
I still think you're reaching, but I can see what you are saying.
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Let me tell you something Benny. The problem of sexual assault on campus goes way beyond athletics, and the issues that victims face are more than facing a system that protects athletes.
Immoral and evil people rape. Student athletes don't become more immoral and evil because they are getting paid. Complete strawman argument.
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Right. So let's engage in the same behavior.
As Jesus once said "It's pretty much OK to do anything to someone as long as they have done it to you first."
Well aren't you being a wet blanket.
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Well aren't you being a wet blanket.
"Blessed are the wet blankets for they shall inherit the Kingdom of Scoop."
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Right. So let's engage in the same behavior.
As Jesus once said "It's pretty much OK to do anything to someone as long as they have done it to you first."
All I remember hearing Jesus say was, "Recruit more Jews!"
(Hey, it worked so well on some of the other threads.)
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let's see here, D-1 player on a large campus but small college town...madison really isn't that large with a population of approximately 560,000. it is a large campus. i think it's madison. they're trying to throw the dogs off the trail. boy, i'd hate to be a 6'6" D-1 basketball player in this state right now-they're screwed
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let's see here, D-1 player on a large campus but small college town...madison really isn't that large with a population of approximately 560,000. it is a large campus. i think it's madison. they're trying to throw the dogs off the trail. boy, i'd hate to be a 6'6" D-1 basketball player in this state right now-they're screwed
I think you mean "They've screwed."
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Chicos is the goddam worst.
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Let me tell you something Benny. The problem of sexual assault on campus goes way beyond athletics, and the issues that victims face are more than facing a system that protects athletes.
Immoral and evil people rape. Student athletes don't become more immoral and evil because they are getting paid. Complete strawman argument.
I agree with part one. However, stud athlete who can lead team down the field in a two minute drill or averages 6 assists a game seems to have a different investigative system than the Bus Ad major from Chicago who is also part of Sigma Chi. Or moreover, the victim is less likely to turn in stud athlete knowing the hell that will brought on to her (we saw it on this very board, we see it on the UW-madison boards when they had one of their football recruits accused...found guilty yesterday by the way). If she turns in Bus Ad major from Chicago that no one knows or cares about, her life is exponentially less complicated than turning in an athlete, let alone one that is very good on a very good team that has a rabid following.
IMO
I agree with your last line, by the way. Though I think there is nuance there having spent many years in this business. There are people that are predisposed to doing wrong things because of any number of reasons (environment, how they were brought up, lack of daddy, entitlement, women throwing themselves at them all the time, etc). You grease the skids a bit more, and you can compound the incidents further. Some of the stories I can tell will make your head spin on the pro side. Think the wildest crap you can think of from a Penthouse Forum article and double it. Some of these guys have to literally beat these women off with a stick and have had to do it since high school. They become entitled and no doesn't mean no when they meet someone that has a few more morals.
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Thanks and thanks for quoting him. I never know what he says anymore due to ignore....always entertaining.
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booooooooooooooooooooooo
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I think you mean "They've screwed."
that too
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Makes you wonder why if I am the worst, why he bothers to read someone's thoughts he doesn't care for. Strange, similar to his former avatar of an off the charts weird guy. Birds of a feather...
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Let me tell you something Benny. The problem of sexual assault on campus goes way beyond athletics, and the issues that victims face are more than facing a system that protects athletes.
Immoral and evil people rape. Student athletes don't become more immoral and evil because they are getting paid. Complete strawman argument.
kind of what i was bringing to light on the superbar site which no one seems to want to touch
http://www.universityherald.com/articles/10014/20140619/james-madison-university-under-federal-investigation-for-handling-of-students-sexual-assault-complaint.htm
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Thanks and thanks for quoting him. I never know what he says anymore due to ignore....always entertaining.
This thread title and the innuendos asserted by you within could be one of the most embarrassing to ever appear on the site, giving several others you've started and/or derailed a run for their money. You're the worst.
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I have no idea who is the offending party is. However, I would think if you go to UW you know who the basketball players are. I would not say the same thing about UWGB.
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There you go again, saying athletes don't have the opportunity to work part time. Yes they do. That has been legislated in the NCAA a long time ago.
I guess if you repeat your lie enough eventually someone will believe you.
I didn't say it was an NCAA rule. But an athlete taking a full class load + putting 20-40 hours of work into their sport does not have time for a part-time job.
How many times could Todd Mayo skip practice and workouts before he would be 'fired' from his scholarship?
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I have no idea who is the offending party is. However, I would think if you go to UW you know who the basketball players are. I would not say the same thing about UWGB.
I dont think that is true at all. UWGB is a small enough campus with only 1 division 1 sport so I think the basketball players are very well known. They are well known on both campuses in my mind. As a Badger fan if this happened at UW it makes me sick. Actually if it happened at any school it makes me sick. There is no doubt this type of stuff happens and it is incredibly hard situation for the woman who has been raped. It is a terrible trauma to be raped but then to know the scorn you will receive from a small group of deluded fans if you report the player is even worse.
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I didn't say it was an NCAA rule. But an athlete taking a full class load + putting 20-40 hours of work into their sport does not have time for a part-time job.
How many times could Todd Mayo skip practice and workouts before he would be 'fired' from his scholarship?
You are assuming all athletes are basketball and football players, when in fact those two sports combined make up less than 10% of all student athletes. Let's also not forget many college football and basketball players do have part time jobs. I have a UCLA baseball player that will be interning here starting in two weeks. We have had football players over the years. Yes, schedules are difficult and the employer has to be flexible, but it can be done and we actually require them to do work.
That's the danger with the prism you guys keep viewing this stuff through. Then you want to make special exceptions for these guys, just wait how well that is received by the Title IX folks.
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I dont think that is true at all. UWGB is a small enough campus with only 1 division 1 sport so I think the basketball players are very well known. They are well known on both campuses in my mind. As a Badger fan if this happened at UW it makes me sick. Actually if it happened at any school it makes me sick. There is no doubt this type of stuff happens and it is incredibly hard situation for the woman who has been raped. It is a terrible trauma to be raped but then to know the scorn you will receive from a small group of deluded fans if you report the player is even worse.
Well said
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Lots of "coulds" here. Could be true, could be fiction. but by all means, let's hang somebody.
Exactly.
Plus there's this gem: "I have no doubt that if she said a DI Michigan school, the Badger faithful would react accordingly."
Great. An in-kind reaction to a hypothetical assumed reaction. That's how 4 year-olds behave. Guttural, brainless discourse. Embarrassing.
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Let me tell you something Benny. The problem of sexual assault on campus goes way beyond athletics, and the issues that victims face are more than facing a system that protects athletes.
Immoral and evil people rape. Student athletes don't become more immoral and evil because they are getting paid. Complete strawman argument.
Not what I said. Go back and re-read. Take out the whole thing about the students getting paid if you'd like. Bottom line is more money for the schools/networks, the more the incentive to sweep these things under the rug. Riddle me a counter argument to that.
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Not what I said. Go back and re-read. Take out the whole thing about the students getting paid if you'd like. Bottom line is more money for the schools/networks, the more the incentive to sweep these things under the rug. Riddle me a counter argument to that.
OK then I misunderstood. Sorry.
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kind of what i was bringing to light on the superbar site which no one seems to want to touch
http://www.universityherald.com/articles/10014/20140619/james-madison-university-under-federal-investigation-for-handling-of-students-sexual-assault-complaint.htm
Title IX is such a sticky issue for campuses. I mean, here is a student that was allegedly sexually assaulted in a different state. And of course alcohol is involved...
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The sexual assault of a woman, by anyone, should not be fodder for college message board bickering.
This thread, the title in particular, is vile and repugnant. I find this very embarrassing.
Chicos, I'm sorry to call you out, but you're better than this. Or at least I hope you are.
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This thread, the title in particular, is vile and repugnant. I find this very embarrassing.
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We can at least change the unnatural carnal knowledgeing title.
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Really??? Giving athletes (who don't have the oppurtunity to work part-time) a couple thousand $$$ a month is going to cause a rape epidemic?
There is already a rape epidemic. I don't know if paying athletes will make it worse. But it is already there.
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I agree with part one. However, stud athlete who can lead team down the field in a two minute drill or averages 6 assists a game seems to have a different investigative system than the Bus Ad major from Chicago who is also part of Sigma Chi. Or moreover, the victim is less likely to turn in stud athlete knowing the hell that will brought on to her (we saw it on this very board, we see it on the UW-madison boards when they had one of their football recruits accused...found guilty yesterday by the way). If she turns in Bus Ad major from Chicago that no one knows or cares about, her life is exponentially less complicated than turning in an athlete, let alone one that is very good on a very good team that has a rabid following.
I would definitely agree with this. The only thing I would add is the system investigating the Sigma Chi isn't very good either.
The Department of Education has been attempting to get a handle on the rape epidemic going on in college campuses. The tile article of Time Magazine from a few weeks ago was all about the DOE's efforts. In 2011, they wrote a "Dear Colleague Letter" in an attempt to clarify universities' Title IX responsibilities when investigating alleged sexual assaults. Their intents were pure but they created some serious legal issues. It took away a survivor's right to privacy and had some pretty concerning First Amendment issues. They recently issued another letter in 2013 clarifying the 2011 letter...but it only made things worse. This is also when the DOE decided to lower the boom on the University of Montana, labeling it "Rape U." The said thing is, the University of Montana does not have any more rapes than any other university. They just had better reporting resources so survivors felt more comfortable reporting their attackers. They followed the DOE's instructions and now have been slapped with sanctions and an image that will take years to rebrand.
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Chicos is the goddam worst.
Chicos and Keefe are the reason I come on this board.
We are brothers in the Warrior way!
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Did Jesus also say go F yourself? ;)
Only when He saw a Badger fan!
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what bs; ashamed for this thread; they did it to us so we (some of us) are going to be asshats and do it to them; horrible but not surprising to use a crime like this in an effort to exploit a different agenda
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I have no doubt that if she said a DI Michigan Indiana school, the Badger faithful would react accordingly.
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I dont think that is true at all. UWGB is a small enough campus with only 1 division 1 sport so I think the basketball players are very well known. They are well known on both campuses in my mind. As a Badger fan if this happened at UW it makes me sick. Actually if it happened at any school it makes me sick. There is no doubt this type of stuff happens and it is incredibly hard situation for the woman who has been raped. It is a terrible trauma to be raped but then to know the scorn you will receive from a small group of deluded fans if you report the player is even worse.
By the way, Jake, next time you want to tell us to keep it classy, please do the same for your own side. I posted the article, I said it was a UW basketball player...that is what the article says. Nothing else.
You want to over the various bullshyte Badger fans have done over the years about Wes Matthews mother, about Tim Maymon, about Vander Blue's dad, so on and so forth. Seriously, get your own house in order. As you say, keep it classy Vadger fans.
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what bs; ashamed for this thread; they did it to us so we (some of us) are going to be asshats and do it to them; horrible but not surprising to use a crime like this in an effort to exploit a different agenda
Only part of the agenda, Lloyd. Fact is, this crap with sexual assaults \ rape happen far too often. It was disgusting to see our side defend this nonsense when it happened to MU and rip on the victim.
Yes, I have no problem putting a finger in their eye to our pals to the west for their utter hypocrisy on the subject, that's the other part of the agenda.
Guilty as charged. They have no problem with one set of rules for themselves and a completely different set for everyone else. Some people don't like, some people love it.
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Only part of the agenda, Lloyd. Fact is, this crap with sexual assaults \ rape happen far too often. It was disgusting to see our side defend this nonsense when it happened to MU and rip on the victim.
Yes, I have no problem putting a finger in their eye to our pals to the west for their utter hypocrisy on the subject, that's the other part of the agenda.
Guilty as charged. They have no problem with one set of rules for themselves and a completely different set for everyone else. Some people don't like, some people love it.
First, you have no idea what the details of the incident at Marquette were. Was there a rape? Perhaps, perhaps not.
As for this thread, you are way out of line - and this is not uncommon occurrence. Aping (and often surpassing) other people's disgusting behavior (which you admit is disgusting) isn't exposing hypocrisy. The only "point" you're proving is that you are every bit as big a dick (maybe bigger) as the biggest dick(s) on any other board. Congratulations, but we already knew that. Please stop.
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First, you have no idea what the details of the incident at Marquette were. Was there a rape? Perhaps, perhaps not.
Let me clear it up for you. There was.
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Who fooked who?
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Let me clear it up for you. There was.
No charges, no civil suit, conflicting stories. But YOU KNOW. The only people who KNOW are the alleged perps and the alleged victim. You have a bad habit of saying you "know" things that turn out to be nothing more than opinion based on something someone told you. Try to stick to the facts.
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In before the lock!
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No charges, no civil suit, conflicting stories. But YOU KNOW. The only people who KNOW are the alleged perps and the alleged victim. You have a bad habit of saying you "know" things that turn out to be nothing more than opinion based on something someone told you. Try to stick to the facts.
I thought there was a civil suit; I had simply assumed it didn't go anywhere since I haven't heard about it lately.
Incidentally... the most critical people I encountered of the victim in the one incident plastered in the Tribune were three young female alumni who happened to be at a gathering one night with my wife and I. It wasn't so much a "blame the victim" or "she got what she deserved" mentality as it was "why was she even at a basketball party" mindset. Nobody believed her, and it certainly didn't help that they were on campus when the bar for basketball groupies was set so low (see Funches, S.). Even my wife (who went to IU) said that she and her friends were the same way in Bloomington... they would never consider going to a basketball party - not because they figured they would get raped - but because they had no desire to be looked upon as "just another basketball groupie."
I said it before, I'll say it again.... about half of all rape accusations are bogus, and about half of rapes that actually occur are never reported. Unfortunately, stories like Megan's seem much more credible because she didn't report the incident than stories where it's trumped up to front page news (see LaCrosse, Duke).
$h!t has got to stop, though. People have to face the consequences of their actions and victims shouldn't have to fear reprisal, threats, coercion, etc. just because there's hundreds of thousands or millions of athletic revenues on the table.
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No charges, no civil suit, conflicting stories. But YOU KNOW. The only people who KNOW are the alleged perps and the alleged victim. You have a bad habit of saying you "know" things that turn out to be nothing more than opinion based on something someone told you. Try to stick to the facts.
Again, you aren't very close to the program, and it shows.
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By the way, Jake, next time you want to tell us to keep it classy, please do the same for your own side. I posted the article, I said it was a UW basketball player...that is what the article says. Nothing else.
You want to over the various bullshyte Badger fans have done over the years about Wes Matthews mother, about Tim Maymon, about Vander Blue's dad, so on and so forth. Seriously, get your own house in order. As you say, keep it classy Vadger fans.
The article does not say a UW basketball player. UW = Madison and everyone knows that. It could obviously have been a UW basketball player. I will not debate things have been taken too far on Badger boards and I probably have participated. The story in the trib about MU basketball was a little different than this piece because of the facts laid out and the idea that the institution played a part in the issue. There is no speaking of that in the most recent article. Both are terrible and if it a Badger player who did it I will be first in line to call it a heinous incident.
I didnt come here calling out this thread. I came here and read a thread in which I thought the title was ridiculous but didnt say anything. Here I will only discuss the facts that are there. I will never defend a Badger player for something like this and I wont start a debate on a Marquette board on which incident is worse because they are both terrible if true. On the Badger board I think this thread talking about the title of the thread and also how I was impressed with the amount of posters calling you out. Still am impressed. You are doing a disservice to your fan base.
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He does that a lot.
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The article does not say a UW basketball player. UW = Madison and everyone knows that. It could obviously have been a UW basketball player. I will not debate things have been taken too far on Badger boards and I probably have participated. The story in the trib about MU basketball was a little different than this piece because of the facts laid out and the idea that the institution played a part in the issue. There is no speaking of that in the most recent article. Both are terrible and if it a Badger player who did it I will be first in line to call it a heinous incident.
I didnt come here calling out this thread. I came here and read a thread in which I thought the title was ridiculous but didnt say anything. Here I will only discuss the facts that are there. I will never defend a Badger player for something like this and I wont start a debate on a Marquette board on which incident is worse because they are both terrible if true. On the Badger board I think this thread talking about the title of the thread and also how I was impressed with the amount of posters calling you out. Still am impressed. You are doing a disservice to your fan base.
Chicos does that often.
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The article does not say a UW basketball player. UW = Madison and everyone knows that. It could obviously have been a UW basketball player. I will not debate things have been taken too far on Badger boards and I probably have participated. The story in the trib about MU basketball was a little different than this piece because of the facts laid out and the idea that the institution played a part in the issue. There is no speaking of that in the most recent article. Both are terrible and if it a Badger player who did it I will be first in line to call it a heinous incident.
I didnt come here calling out this thread. I came here and read a thread in which I thought the title was ridiculous but didnt say anything. Here I will only discuss the facts that are there. I will never defend a Badger player for something like this and I wont start a debate on a Marquette board on which incident is worse because they are both terrible if true. On the Badger board I think this thread talking about the title of the thread and also how I was impressed with the amount of posters calling you out. Still am impressed. You are doing a disservice to your fan base.
I thought UW = University of Washington.
Sorry, I say clearly in the first paragraph it could be any of the DI UW schools, it just takes someone to read. I was responding to your comments on Buckyville, since you didn't have the guts to say them here. Over there you couldn't wait to say keep it classy, when you SPECIFICALLY and others of your ilk have done the same. So keep it classy Badger fans. Practice what you preach.
Yes, some posters have called me out, which is fine. That's one of the beauties of this board and a huge difference vs the Badger boards, where stuff doesn't get called out over there by your own. Maybe you can be the first to impress yourself and others. Take this as a teaching moment. Otherwise, you are doing a disservice to your fanbase when you don't. Let's start by offering some apologies to Wes's mom, Vander's dad, Crean's wife, etc. You know, since you guys are morally superior, I just don't want you to do a disservice to your fan base.
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http://www.uw.edu
UW-Madison is not UW.
Edit: Yes, Chicos is the 2nd worst poster on these forums. The first is the exceptionally racist, Voltron-esque combination of rocky_warrior and mu-hilltopper.
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Again, you aren't very close to the program, and it shows.
Again, you are full of it. If the administration knows that a rape occurred that night and are part of a cover up, people should be in prison. You are the worst, and this thread is just a small part of the evidence.
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Again, you are full of it. If the administration knows that a rape occurred that night and are part of a cover up, people should be in prison. You are the worst, and this thread is just a small part of the evidence.
Sigh. Forgive me for quoting you on that one when I should have quoted you on the civil suit commentary you made. Happy now? Again, you don't have a clue. I'll fix it so it lines up properly for you.
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I thought there was a civil suit; I had simply assumed it didn't go anywhere since I haven't heard about it lately.
Incidentally... the most critical people I encountered of the victim in the one incident plastered in the Tribune were three young female alumni who happened to be at a gathering one night with my wife and I. It wasn't so much a "blame the victim" or "she got what she deserved" mentality as it was "why was she even at a basketball party" mindset. Nobody believed her, and it certainly didn't help that they were on campus when the bar for basketball groupies was set so low (see Funches, S.). Even my wife (who went to IU) said that she and her friends were the same way in Bloomington... they would never consider going to a basketball party - not because they figured they would get raped - but because they had no desire to be looked upon as "just another basketball groupie."
I said it before, I'll say it again.... about half of all rape accusations are bogus, and about half of rapes that actually occur are never reported. Unfortunately, stories like Megan's seem much more credible because she didn't report the incident than stories where it's trumped up to front page news (see LaCrosse, Duke).
$h!t has got to stop, though. People have to face the consequences of their actions and victims shouldn't have to fear reprisal, threats, coercion, etc. just because there's hundreds of thousands or millions of athletic revenues on the table.
Are own Marquette University recent study says the same thing. Agree
http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Marquette-University-sex-assault-study-256448201.html
"Girls are smart and they know if they report it, they are at risk of being blamed, shamed and isolated from their peers," reported Heather Hlavka, Sociologist at Marquette University
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What a fun thread.
A bunch of men, most of whom couldn't possibly have a clue what happened at either MU or UW (to the point on the latter that they don't even know which UW), sounding so certain about what they couldn't possibly have a clue about.
As bonus entertainment, the usual suspects are arguing incessantly with each other about what they do and don't have a clue about.
Not sure if this is a new low for Scoop, but it's in the team picture if only for the seriousness of the issue becoming secondary to the petty arguing.
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http://www.uw.edu
UW-Madison is not UW.
Edit: Yes, Chicos is the 2nd worst poster on these forums. The first is the exceptionally racist, Voltron-esque combination of rocky_warrior and mu-hilltopper.
Maybe I won't ban you this year since you managed to work in a voltron reference.