Anybody else catch his Q&A Session on Twitter today? I thought he actively recruited Stone, but it doesn't seem like it. He's a good kid with a bright future.
Please don't ask our players questions on Twitter.
Players, please don't answer questions from potential boosters on Twitter
Not that I have asked questions, but I thought it was only recruits where that was an issue...
Quote from: MU B2002 on May 06, 2014, 10:02:26 PM
Not that I have asked questions, but I thought it was only recruits where that was an issue...
My rule of thumb, would I ask questions of an 18 year old female at Marquette on Twitter that I had never met? Or an 18 year old high school student at fill in the blank high?
To each their own, it just seems creepy to be interacting with students at that age in a setting like that which puts the kids on the spot and truly can open up a can of worms. Maybe it is because I have a child not that far from that age and if a 40+ something stranger was talking to him on Twitter I would not be pleased.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 06, 2014, 10:14:03 PM
My rule of thumb, would I ask questions of an 18 year old female at Marquette on Twitter that I had never met? Or an 18 year old high school student at fill in the blank high?
To each their own, it just seems creepy to be interacting with students at that age in a setting like that which puts the kids on the spot and truly can open up a can of worms. Maybe it is because I have a child not that far from that age and if a 40+ something stranger was following him on Twitter I would not be pleased.
+1
Quote from: MU B2002 on May 06, 2014, 10:02:26 PM
Not that I have asked questions, but I thought it was only recruits where that was an issue...
Yes, recruits (including incoming kids who haven't started fall classes). Chicos was just confused so he came up with other reasoning.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 06, 2014, 11:03:01 PM
Yes, recruits (including incoming kids who haven't started fall classes). Chicos was just confused so he came up with other reasoning.
I was not confused at all. I didn't say it was a NCAA violation or anything of the sort. We just don't need to be doing it, creepy and puts the kid in a tough spot. What's he supposed to say.
Then throw in the fact the kid is being asked about another kid who has NOT signed with a school, and it just isn't worth it. Why put yourself in that position.
By the way, did you know the divorce rate is closer to 20 to 25%. :D
Lol, I agree with the talking to kids... although there are some charismatic youngsters that are fun to talk to (in person, when working).
Divorce rate is closer to 50% than 30%.
Your boy Bryz came through for us tonight
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 06, 2014, 11:09:29 PM
Lol, I agree with the talking to kids... although there are some charismatic youngsters that are fun to talk to (in person, when working).
Divorce rate is closer to 50% than 30%.
Your boy Bryz came through for us tonight
You need to pick up that new book that just came out...some interesting research...closer to 20% to 25%.
Happy to see Bryz do well tonight.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 06, 2014, 10:14:03 PM
My rule of thumb, would I ask questions of an 18 year old female at Marquette on Twitter that I had never met? Or an 18 year old high school student at fill in the blank high?
To each their own, it just seems creepy to be interacting with students at that age in a setting like that which puts the kids on the spot and truly can open up a can of worms. Maybe it is because I have a child not that far from that age and if a 40+ something stranger was talking to him on Twitter I would not be pleased.
There are students on this website. We aren't all old.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 07, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
There are students on this website. We aren't all old.
Well to that point...If I wanted to know if Anthony Pieper was recruiting Sam Okey I would have leaned over in one our rigorous College of Communications classes and asked him.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 06, 2014, 10:14:03 PM
My rule of thumb, would I ask questions of an 18 year old female at Marquette on Twitter that I had never met? Or an 18 year old high school student at fill in the blank high?
To each their own, it just seems creepy to be interacting with students at that age in a setting like that which puts the kids on the spot and truly can open up a can of worms. Maybe it is because I have a child not that far from that age and if a 40+ something stranger was talking to him on Twitter I would not be pleased.
In a general sense, I agree it falls into the creepy aspect of life. However, there's a large difference between asking a Freshman girl questions on twitter and asking a basketball player who is having an interactive Q&A session with his friends/fans/followers.
With Du, he handles every question so well. I'm really hoping the redshirt didn't throw off his confidence because if his play on the court at all mirrors the way he's handled himself off the court then MU has a real diamond in the program.
Quote from: dannyp07 on May 06, 2014, 09:38:26 PM
Anybody else catch his Q&A Session on Twitter today? I thought he actively recruited Stone, but it doesn't seem like it. He's a good kid with a bright future.
There's only so much anyone can do to convince someone of where to go to college.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 06, 2014, 10:14:03 PM
My rule of thumb, would I ask questions of an 18 year old female at Marquette on Twitter that I had never met? Or an 18 year old high school student at fill in the blank high?
To each their own, it just seems creepy to be interacting with students at that age in a setting like that which puts the kids on the spot and truly can open up a can of worms. Maybe it is because I have a child not that far from that age and if a 40+ something stranger was talking to him on Twitter I would not be pleased.
As someone who has kids that fall into Duane's age range, I don't find it creepy in the least if they are doing a Twitter Q&A in a public forum with a 40 year old.
Sometimes I think people don't realize how normal this seems to "kids" that age, and how nonplussed they are about it. Seriously, go read the entire Q&A. It was fine. He comes off as mature and confident. Fail to see the harm here...
Quote from: dannyp07 on May 06, 2014, 09:38:26 PM
Anybody else catch his Q&A Session on Twitter today? I thought he actively recruited Stone, but it doesn't seem like it. He's a good kid with a bright future.
Take that with a grain of salt. What exactly do you expect him to say?
Why is it creepy to follow our players on Twitter? Isn't it just as creepy to talk about about them in our own emails and message boards? To learn about their backgrounds? To watch them on television and in person? These people are in the public eye and would not be on Twitter if they didn't want people to have access to them in that forum. Following some random undergraduate for stalking purposes is a completely different thing.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 07, 2014, 08:46:37 AM
In a general sense, I agree it falls into the creepy aspect of life. However, there's a large difference between asking a Freshman girl questions on twitter and asking a basketball player who is having an interactive Q&A session with his friends/fans/followers.
With Du, he handles every question so well. I'm really hoping the redshirt didn't throw off his confidence because if his play on the court at all mirrors the way he's handled himself off the court then MU has a real diamond in the program.
Fair point, I didn't know it was a Q & A session....I guess it was right there in the first post. My follow-up would be why have a Q&A session, is this done through Marquette or on his own? Looks like on his own, but maybe I'm misreading it. If it is on his own, hopefully MU was aware of it ahead of time. To your point, since it is a Q&A, does that invite questions all the time? Is it an open invite whenever? If an 18 year old freshman girl opened up her twitter to Q&A would you still find it ok if a bunch of 40+ were asking her questions?
Seen too many odd, creepy, crazy questions floating around to these kids in the last few years (not just at MU) and I'm not sure what good it does. That's my own bias. I know it is the world we live in today, it seems to me that all it is going to take is one bad answer, one dumb tweet, or whatever, and that wipes out any "good" (not sure how good is being done) with these things.
Eeek. For some reason after reading this I went to his Twitter page only to learn he was upset about breaking his Gucci watch. :o ?-(
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 07, 2014, 09:20:46 AM
Fair point, I didn't know it was a Q & A session....I guess it was right there in the first post. My follow-up would be why have a Q&A session, is this done through Marquette or on his own? Looks like on his own, but maybe I'm misreading it. If it is on his own, hopefully MU was aware of it ahead of time. To your point, since it is a Q&A, does that invite questions all the time? Is it an open invite whenever? If an 18 year old freshman girl opened up her twitter to Q&A would you still find it ok if a bunch of 40+ were asking her questions?
Well sure. It would be creepy for the girl...and for the guy. But what is your point? Duane Wilson is a college basketball player. Not some random girl.
Anyone ask Chicos for pics of his kids yet?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 07, 2014, 09:20:46 AM
Fair point, I didn't know it was a Q & A session....I guess it was right there in the first post. My follow-up would be why have a Q&A session, is this done through Marquette or on his own? Looks like on his own, but maybe I'm misreading it. If it is on his own, hopefully MU was aware of it ahead of time. To your point, since it is a Q&A, does that invite questions all the time? Is it an open invite whenever? If an 18 year old freshman girl opened up her twitter to Q&A would you still find it ok if a bunch of 40+ were asking her questions?
Seen too many odd, creepy, crazy questions floating around to these kids in the last few years (not just at MU) and I'm not sure what good it does. That's my own bias. I know it is the world we live in today, it seems to me that all it is going to take is one bad answer, one dumb tweet, or whatever, and that wipes out any "good" (not sure how good is being done) with these things.
And where are we drawing the line? At 18? It's fair to guess the Bucks first pick in this year's draft could be a 19 year old, one and done player. Would it be creepy to follow this person as a Bucks fan? I'd say no.
I get your point, there's a slippery slope in following a college hoops player and how much interaction a "follower" may or may not have with that player. Reading a person's tweets is one thing since that's information that person chooses to share with the public. Replying back and trying to repeatedly contact that person is something altogether different.
Nothing as creepy as the tweet TC sent that high school boy:
"I've been thinking about you a lot since last weekend. A whole lot..."
As a member of the younger generation of alumni (class of 2011), I will say that I find asking college basketball players on twitter kind of creepy. I will also say that I understand and accept the argument that they are in the public eye.
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 07, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
Well sure. It would be creepy for the girl...and for the guy. But what is your point? Duane Wilson is a college basketball player. Not some random girl.
Still a stranger, and his status as a college basketball player doesn't change things IMO. Digital jock sniffing.
I just don't find it all that strange. I don't follow any players. I wouldn't participate in a Q&A. But your case against it seems all over the map.
First, you were against it because it's "creepy" and equate it to any random 18 year old being asked questions on twitter by any random 40 year old. (Which IMO isn't necessarily creepy.)
Second, you were against it because it did it outside of Marquette's knowledge.
Third, you were against it because of "jock sniffing." (Which is kind of the opposite of your first point.)
It seems to me that you don't like it, can't really figure out why, and are just sticking to your POV for the sake of sticking to your POV.
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 07, 2014, 03:06:32 PM
It seems to me that you don't like it, can't really figure out why, and are just sticking to your POV for the sake of sticking to your POV.
Chicos would never do that.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 07, 2014, 08:46:37 AM
In a general sense, I agree it falls into the creepy aspect of life. However, there's a large difference between asking a Freshman girl questions on twitter and asking a basketball player who is having an interactive Q&A session with his friends/fans/followers.
With Du, he handles every question so well. I'm really hoping the redshirt didn't throw off his confidence because if his play on the court at all mirrors the way he's handled himself off the court then MU has a real diamond in the program.
Didn't you read it? It said he wasn't recruiting Diamond
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 07, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
Nothing as creepy as the tweet TC sent that high school boy:
"I've been thinking about you a lot since last weekend. A whole lot..."
Spot on Lenny. Crean thinking about HS boys a lot---
CREEPY
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 07, 2014, 03:06:32 PM
I just don't find it all that strange. I don't follow any players. I wouldn't participate in a Q&A. But your case against it seems all over the map.
First, you were against it because it's "creepy" and equate it to any random 18 year old being asked questions on twitter by any random 40 year old. (Which IMO isn't necessarily creepy.)
Second, you were against it because it did it outside of Marquette's knowledge.
Third, you were against it because of "jock sniffing." (Which is kind of the opposite of your first point.)
It seems to me that you don't like it, can't really figure out why, and are just sticking to your POV for the sake of sticking to your POV.
I think I listed the reasons why
1) Creepy, and yes digital jock sniffing
2) What benefit does it serve
3) Sanctioned by MU? What's the downside?
I get why people do it. I'm trying to understand what people get out of it, especially guys that are 3 or 4 times older. To each their own. Hopefully MU is ok with it and doesn't backfire on these kids. When you only have a limited number of characters on Twitter, clarity isn't always what comes out and is ripe for misintepretation.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on May 07, 2014, 10:02:13 AM
And where are we drawing the line? At 18? It's fair to guess the Bucks first pick in this year's draft could be a 19 year old, one and done player. Would it be creepy to follow this person as a Bucks fan? I'd say no.
I get your point, there's a slippery slope in following a college hoops player and how much interaction a "follower" may or may not have with that player. Reading a person's tweets is one thing since that's information that person chooses to share with the public. Replying back and trying to repeatedly contact that person is something altogether different.
LOL.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 08, 2014, 01:09:39 AM
I think I listed the reasons why
1) Creepy, and yes digital jock sniffing
2) What benefit does it serve
3) Sanctioned by MU? What's the downside?
I get why people do it. I'm trying to understand what people get out of it, especially guys that are 3 or 4 times older. To each their own. Hopefully MU is ok with it and doesn't backfire on these kids. When you only have a limited number of characters on Twitter, clarity isn't always what comes out and is ripe for misintepretation.
You may be spinning your wheels a bit, but I don't disagree with you. In my mind, the analysis doesn't get beyond "creepy." It need not be justified or explained. In the words of the esteemed Justice Potter Stewart, "I know it when I see it." In this situation, I see creepy. Whether that is Tom Crean or Joe Schmoe, tweeting kids 20 years your junior is just not my cup of tea.
Tweeting with college kids? I'd call it a crapshoot!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 08, 2014, 01:09:39 AM
I think I listed the reasons why
1) Creepy, and yes digital jock sniffing
2) What benefit does it serve
3) Sanctioned by MU? What's the downside?
I get why people do it. I'm trying to understand what people get out of it, especially guys that are 3 or 4 times older. To each their own. Hopefully MU is ok with it and doesn't backfire on these kids. When you only have a limited number of characters on Twitter, clarity isn't always what comes out and is ripe for misintepretation.
Firstly, Wilson only need respond to the questions he wants to answer. If a Scoop nerd asks, "Why did Buzz force you to redshirt?" he likely ignores it so all control is in his corner which makes it decidedly less creepy for me.
Secondly, there can be some benefit. Earth shattering, probably not. But Wilson was asked whether he prefers to play the 1 or on the wing. Was asked his thoughts on Wojo's early days. Was asked how often they do strength training. Was asked who wins when he plays Dawson 1v1. Was asked whether his game more resembles Lillard or Irving. Was jokingly asked which teammate annoys him.
Considering the lack of a media presence surrounding our program I find it okay that Wilson engages in these Q&As. Also, I think he's done maybe three or four in the last year so it's not an every week deal. In 2014, a twitter Q&A can be humanizing. You see it across all fields of life from actresses to news media to sports media to professional athletes. My guess is since Wilson has had a few of these, the MU people who ball hawk social media have not only witnessed it but seemingly approved of it.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 08, 2014, 01:09:39 AM
I think I listed the reasons why
1) Creepy, and yes digital jock sniffing
2) What benefit does it serve
3) Sanctioned by MU? What's the downside?
I get why people do it. I'm trying to understand what people get out of it, especially guys that are 3 or 4 times older. To each their own. Hopefully MU is ok with it and doesn't backfire on these kids. When you only have a limited number of characters on Twitter, clarity isn't always what comes out and is ripe for misintepretation.
I haven't looked at the tweets, but what makes you think it's only old guys tweeting at him and not his fellow college students/peers? If I were to guess I'd bet most of the people asking him questions are young people that are either in high school, college, or just out of college. Again this is a guess because I haven't bothered to look at these tweets.
Also I feel like MU fans are pretty tame on twitter compared to the Kentucky, UNC, IU, and KU's of the world.
Quote from: swoopem on May 08, 2014, 08:34:14 AM
I haven't looked at the tweets, but what makes you think it's only old guys tweeting at him and not his fellow college students/peers? If I were to guess I'd bet most of the people asking him questions are young people that are either in high school, college, or just out of college. Again this is a guess because I haven't bothered to look at these tweets.
Also I feel like MU fans are pretty tame on twitter compared to the Kentucky, UNC, IU, and KU's of the world.
No question, MU fans very tame compared to other schools, not even close.
Sorry if I implied only 40+ year olds are, that certainly isn't the case nor my intent. It's an interesting world today. It used to be the athletic department and the coach tried to control the flow of information. I still believe that is appropriate, limits a lot of potential dust ups. Some pro teams and many college teams have that rule in place. Usually imposed because someone said something they definitely shouldn't have said as the filter for an 18-22 year old might not be quite developed yet.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 08, 2014, 08:52:59 AM
No question, MU fans very tame compared to other schools, not even close.
Sorry if I implied only 40+ year olds are, that certainly isn't the case nor my intent. It's an interesting world today. It used to be the athletic department and the coach tried to control the flow of information. I still believe that is appropriate, limits a lot of potential dust ups. Some pro teams and many college teams have that rule in place. Usually imposed because someone said something they definitely shouldn't have said as the filter for an 18-22 year old might not be quite developed yet.
Let's go back to the day when someone like yourself from the athletic department could control the flow of information. That way we'll be sure to avoid the kind of shoot from the hip, knee jerk reactions that might come from the mouths of 18-22 year olds. I literally laughed out loud when I wrote this.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 08, 2014, 09:07:49 AM
Let's go back to the day when someone like yourself from the athletic department could control the flow of information. That way we'll be sure to avoid the kind of shoot from the hip, knee jerk reactions that might come from the mouths of 18-22 year olds. I literally laughed out loud when I wrote this.
Haha seriously, a guy with ~20k posts on this message board alone (probably north of 50k when you include all MU boards and various screen names) lecturing people about how "creepy" it is to join in on a public Q&A session with a current student athlete at that SA's own behest. This is also a guy that has been known to cyberstalk other posters via IP addresses and other means. What a hilarious sanctimonious pile of bullsh*t! Really is just too funny.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 08, 2014, 09:07:49 AM
Let's go back to the day when someone like yourself from the athletic department could control the flow of information. That way we'll be sure to avoid the kind of shoot from the hip, knee jerk reactions that might come from the mouths of 18-22 year olds. I literally laughed out loud when I wrote this.
Why do you think, in your opinion, that some coaches ban twitter use?
Quote from: Jajuannaman on May 08, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
Haha seriously, a guy with ~20k posts on this message board alone (probably north of 50k when you include all MU boards and various screen names) lecturing people about how "creepy" it is to join in on a public Q&A session with a current student athlete at that SA's own behest. This is also a guy that has been known to cyberstalk other posters via IP addresses and other means. What a hilarious sanctimonious pile of bullsh*t! Really is just too funny.
50k? No
Talking tomother graduates of our school about MU is on par with talking to a 18 year old kid onTwitter?
We just disagree
Attached is my favorite Chicos. "I4 now up on ND and have pretty much taken over the game." Of course I4 never had the lead in the game!"
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on May 08, 2014, 10:37:08 PM
Attached is my favorite Chicos. "I4 now up on ND and have pretty much taken over the game." Of course I4 never had the lead in the game!"
Yup, that was a boner...tracking too many game at one time.
Remember this one?
"My bet is that E-Will turns out to be a better player than N-Will!" ;)
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 07, 2014, 03:06:32 PM
I just don't find it all that strange. I don't follow any players. I wouldn't participate in a Q&A. But your case against it seems all over the map.
First, you were against it because it's "creepy" and equate it to any random 18 year old being asked questions on twitter by any random 40 year old. (Which IMO isn't necessarily creepy.)
Second, you were against it because it did it outside of Marquette's knowledge.
Third, you were against it because of "jock sniffing." (Which is kind of the opposite of your first point.)
It seems to me that you don't like it, can't really figure out why, and are just sticking to your POV for the sake of sticking to your POV.
If Chicos tells you not to do it. Who the hell are you to question him!!?? Or are you the kind of guy who wants to have him blather on for another 10 posts telling you why hes right?