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Title: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 05, 2014, 08:27:03 AM
If Diamond Stone decides to come to Marquette, Malik Newman will be coming with. That means we will have two 5-star players in the same class.

Sic' em Wojo!!
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 05, 2014, 08:39:38 AM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 05, 2014, 08:27:03 AM
If Diamond Stone decides to come to Marquette, Malik Newman will be coming with. That means we will have two 5-star players in the same class.

Sic' em Wojo!!

Every year about a dozen pairs of players say they are a package deal.  Once they all sign, maybe 1 pair every three or four years actually follow through as a pair.  The last pair is probably the Harrison twins.

It would be rare if it actually happens and awesome if it happens at MU.  But don't hold your breath they are committing together.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: GGGG on May 05, 2014, 08:40:51 AM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 05, 2014, 08:39:38 AM
Every year about a dozen pairs of players say they are a package deal.  Once they all sign, maybe 1 pair every three or four years actually follow through as a pair.  The last pair is probably the Harrison twins.

It would be rare if it actually happens and awesome if it happens at MU.  But don't hold your breath they are committing together.


Agreed.  The one non-related package deal that I can remember is Quincy Miller and Duece Bello.  But Bello was a hanger on in that relationship anyway.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: WarriorFan on May 05, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
Arthur Agee and William Gates...
and it never happened.

Why don't we hear about partial qualifiers anymore?  "Prop 48"?  Or do they all just go Juco?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: QuetteHoops on May 05, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
Okafor and Jones are a package deal for Duke in the 2014 class.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: martyconlonontherun on May 05, 2014, 09:03:20 AM
I think there's a difference in a package deal to duke versus Marquette.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: beercanindasky on May 05, 2014, 09:07:33 AM
Gates and McCaskill though??

Quote from: WarriorFan on May 05, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
Arthur Agee and William Gates...
and it never happened.

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MU82 on May 05, 2014, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: QuetteHoops on May 05, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
Okafor and Jones are a package deal for Duke in the 2014 class.

Yep. You beat me to it.

It's fairly rare, but it happens.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: BCHoopster on May 05, 2014, 09:12:01 AM
The real question is if MU has contacted Malik yet, that would be a helpful sign about Diamond?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 05, 2014, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: QuetteHoops on May 05, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
Okafor and Jones are a package deal for Duke in the 2014 class.

Originally Okafor and Cliff Alexander openly talked about being a package deal.

So, are we sure they were "package deal" or just said that after they realized they were both going to Duke?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
Aguirre and Dillard
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: wadesworld on May 05, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
Aguirre and Dillard

It's probably a bad thing when I see 4Never is the last to reply in a thread titled "Package Deal" and I am absolutely shocked when I read the thread and his reply does NOT refer to someone's johnson.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 05, 2014, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
Aguirre and Dillard

Had to go back 35 years ago ... proving how rare it is even though tons of recruits every years say they are packaged deals.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 05, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
Aguirre and Dillard

Man those were two great players. A little OT but Dillards son got an offer from Cinci the other day, good for him cause he ran into a lot of trouble in high school. Probably could have gone to a big time program had he not gotten in trouble.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: willie warrior on May 05, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 05, 2014, 08:39:38 AM
Every year about a dozen pairs of players say they are a package deal.  Once they all sign, maybe 1 pair every three or four years actually follow through as a pair.  The last pair is probably the Harrison twins.

It would be rare if it actually happens and awesome if it happens at MU.  But don't hold your breath they are committing together.
Trotter and Lazaretti were a package. Same HS, but everybody wanted Trotter--not so much Lazaretti. Bit of long ago MU lore.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on May 05, 2014, 11:16:49 AM
Trotter and Laz.   ;)
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 05, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on May 05, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
Man those were two great players. A little OT but Dillards son got an offer from Cinci the other day, good for him cause he ran into a lot of trouble in high school. Probably could have gone to a big time program had he not gotten in trouble.

So, Huggie is gone, yet the song remains the same.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 05, 2014, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
Aguirre and Dillard

4ever and ZFB!
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: avid1010 on May 05, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
were conley and oden a package deal to ohio state? 
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: BUZZLESS on May 05, 2014, 11:25:48 AM
Okafor and Jones are a Package. Its a known fact there best friends through USA Basketball. Greg Oden and Mike Connelly were a Package to OSU.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on May 05, 2014, 12:15:36 PM
It would be incredible to have Stone and Newman come to Marquette.  Any word when they will decide?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MuMark on May 05, 2014, 12:17:11 PM
Harrison twins............
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: brandx on May 05, 2014, 12:24:00 PM
A package deal surely reduces the chances for Stone at MU. If it is indeed at 2-fer, odds will be on Kentucky, UCLA, or Carolina.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: The Equalizer on May 05, 2014, 12:36:19 PM
Not an explicit package, Wade and Blankson were at least close friends before both came to MU. 
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 05, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 05, 2014, 08:40:51 AM

Agreed.  The one non-related package deal that I can remember is Quincy Miller and Duece Bello.  But Bello was a hanger on in that relationship anyway.

Okafor and Jones -Duke

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 05, 2014, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on May 05, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
Man those were two great players. A little OT but Dillards son got an offer from Cinci the other day, good for him cause he ran into a lot of trouble in high school. Probably could have gone to a big time program had he not gotten in trouble.
Wasn't his son Quitman, who played for SLU like 15 years ago? Maybe his grandson? (Gulp.)
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 05, 2014, 12:46:36 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 05, 2014, 12:38:48 PM
Wasn't his son Quitman, who played for SLU like 15 years ago? Maybe his grandson? (Gulp.)

I thought Quitman was his brother.

And didn't Skip spend many years in prison?  When did have a son?  Orange is the new Black?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 05, 2014, 12:47:51 PM
Is the package thing a done deal?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: uncle zeffy on May 05, 2014, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on May 05, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
were conley and oden a package deal to ohio state? 

I think it was Oden and Titus, Oden committing to tOSU lured Titus away from Harvard. Conley was an added bonus.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 05, 2014, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 05, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
Okafor and Jones -Duke

Not to be picky, but what is the definition of "package deal?"  If Duke passed on Jones, or signed another highly rated PG and Jones decided to go elsewhere, Okafor would automatically follow?

Was Jones and Okafor a case of "both or neither?"  Or was it a case that two buddies were independently offered by Duke and both decided to go?  
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 05, 2014, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 05, 2014, 12:38:48 PM
Wasn't his son Quitman, who played for SLU like 15 years ago? Maybe his grandson? (Gulp.)

Son is Lorenzo, played for Niles North and graduated in 2013.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 05, 2014, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on May 05, 2014, 12:36:19 PM
Not an explicit package, Wade and Blankson were at least close friends before both came to MU. 

And in a bit of irony Blankson transferred because Wade got to play on the perimeter and handle/shoot the ball while he was stuck (unfairly, in his mind) out of position at the 4.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 05, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
If it is truly a package deal, it hurts us. Malik Newman has never been linked to Marquette. More likely they end up at a blue blood that has been recruiting both of them.

That being said, these package deals rarely work out. Okafer/Jones and Miller/Bello are the only two I can think of from recent memory.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: brandx on May 05, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 05, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
If it is truly a package deal, it hurts us. Malik Newman has never been linked to Marquette. More likely they end up at a blue blood that has been recruiting both of them.

That being said, these package deals rarely work out. Okafer/Jones and Miller/Bello are the only two I can think of from recent memory.

Just what I said a few posts back.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on May 05, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
Why the pessimism?  Marquette is a gold blood, better than most blue bloods.  MU invested the second most money of all schools on its basketball program last year.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: BCHoopster on May 05, 2014, 03:16:36 PM
I they handed out money to the players they would be more like Kentucky then.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 05, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
4ever has a package deal on saturday nights at the Sugar Shack in lake geneva.  buy 1 male lap dance, get 2 songs of thong in yo face.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on May 05, 2014, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 05, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
4ever has a package deal on saturday nights at the Sugar Shack in lake geneva.  buy 1 male lap dance, get 2 songs of thong in yo face.

Does this come with a side of duck butter? 
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 05, 2014, 07:08:04 PM
I'm not liking this.  Whether it happens or not, it indicates that Kentucky is now back in the race.  Kentucky seems to be using Malik Newman to help convince Diamond to go there.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MUchamp22 on May 05, 2014, 07:23:49 PM
Ahmed Hill and Jakeenan Gant were supposed to be a package deal, but they decided to go to different schools and that's what usually happens. I would be really surprised if the Stone/Newman Package holds true
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Jay Bee on May 05, 2014, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: WarriorFan on May 05, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
Why don't we hear about partial qualifiers anymore?  "Prop 48"?  Or do they all just go Juco?

There is no such thing as a partial qualifier. Gone are those days. You might still hear it occasionally - people get confused - but it doesn't exist. You're either a qualifier or a nonqualifier.

HOWEVER, there are limited circumstances in which a nonqualifier has been given a partial waiver and is allowed to be on athletic scholarship and/or practice. That is unusual, though.

When kids talk about being a 'package deal' I usually chalk it up to kids talking. Just saying words. Occasionally there are exceptions (Tyus and Jahlil were adamant about it and followed through).

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: DoggyDaddy on May 06, 2014, 08:01:41 AM
Earvin "Magic" Johnson and Jamie "Shoes" Huffman, Michigan State 1977-79.
Huffman was a little used Spartan sub who usually entered games at garbage time. In one tournament blowout during the 79 championship run he came in at the end and promptly lost his shoe on national TV. MSU played four on five ball for about two minutes or so without any visible impact on the game while he tried to get his shoe back on. MSU did not call a timeout.
Al who did the broadcast along with Dick Enberg and Billy Packer promptly named him "Shoes." Since he had gone to the same high school as Magic, Al told the world Huffman had been the key part of a recruiting package that had landed Johnson.
Huffman did not go on the the NBA with Magic but he is still called "Shoes." 
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on May 06, 2014, 08:29:09 AM
Dennis Rodman and Jack Haley
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 06, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
Cheech and Chong

Sonny and Cher

Captain and Tennile

Too Tan Tommy and Bumstead
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: JWags85 on May 06, 2014, 09:44:20 AM
Quote from: uncle zeffy on May 05, 2014, 12:49:25 PM
I think it was Oden and Titus, Oden committing to tOSU lured Titus away from Harvard. Conley was an added bonus.

HAHAHAHA.  Not many will pick up on this, but well done.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on May 06, 2014, 11:01:13 AM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on May 05, 2014, 12:52:35 PM
Son is Lorenzo, played for Niles North and graduated in 2013.

Niles North:  The alma mater of Kenosha Warrior!!!!

V for Vikings
V for Victory
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Warrior Code on May 17, 2014, 11:32:34 AM
@EvanDaniels Diamond Stone told me that he and Malik Newman are definitely a package deal.


Go get 'em both, Wojo.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: WarriorCode on May 17, 2014, 11:32:34 AM
@EvanDaniels Diamond Stone told me that he and Malik Newman are definitely a package deal.


Go get 'em both, Wojo.

Well, good luck at Kentucky, Diamond.

Time to shift our focus to Henry Ellenson.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on May 17, 2014, 11:58:34 AM
Quote from: WarriorCode on May 17, 2014, 11:32:34 AM
@EvanDaniels Diamond Stone told me that he and Malik Newman are definitely a package deal.


Go get 'em both, Wojo.

So these guys hang out together at AAU tournaments and decide they have to attend the same college lol. Unreal...I could see if youve known each other or have a history, but otherwise it's kind of amusing to me. Wojo should just focus on Ellenson and cut his losses with Stone now.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: texaswarrior74 on May 17, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
@EvanDaniels Diamond Stone told me that he and Malik Newman are definitely a package deal.

Just another example of all that is wrong with AAU ball, handlers, shoe contracts and what the game has become. Sure miss the old days.

This has Kentucky written all over it.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: injuryBug on May 17, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
Lots of down time at these events.  If you have played aau ball since middle school you probably have run into eachother 3-4 times per year plus playing for usa basketball and other national camps.
Back 20-30 years ago guys met at the badger state games or in city summer leagues and became friends jsut the same.
Social media they can talk each day without paying a long distance phone call like back in the day
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 17, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on May 06, 2014, 11:01:13 AM
Niles North:  The alma mater of Kenosha Warrior!!!!

V for Vikings
V for Victory

If you are from Chicago why the hell are you living in freakin Kenosha?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ry3bread on May 17, 2014, 01:46:06 PM
Stone also retweeted this guy's response:

"@EricDBertram: This would seem to rule out #mubb RT @EvanDaniels Diamond Stone told me that he and Malik Newman are definitely a package deal."

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Jay Bee on May 17, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on May 17, 2014, 11:58:34 AM
So these guys hang out together at AAU tournaments and decide they have to attend the same college lol. Unreal...I could see if youve known each other or have a history, but otherwise it's kind of amusing to me.

Sounds like you're simply unaware of their history.

For starters, extended time together with USA basketball.. multiple times in Colorado and as U16 champions in Uruguay.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 17, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 17, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
Sounds like you're simply unaware of their history.

For starters, extended time together with USA basketball.. multiple times in Colorado and as U16 champions in Uruguay.

So JB, we're out of the Stone sweepstakes?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MuMark on May 17, 2014, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on May 17, 2014, 11:58:34 AM
So these guys hang out together at AAU tournaments and decide they have to attend the same college lol. Unreal...I could see if youve known each other or have a history, but otherwise it's kind of amusing to me. Wojo should just focus on Ellenson and cut his losses with Stone now.

they played together for team USA.

We aren't getting Newman so if Stone really wants to play with him it will be at Kentucky or one of the other elites.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 17, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
What we need to do is via social media try to persuade Newman to at least take a look at Marquette.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
So JB, we're out of the Stone sweepstakes?

We have been for a long time.  But this is the first time we've more or less heard it from the horse's mouth, without him actually saying it.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on May 17, 2014, 02:37:09 PM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 17, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
What we need to do is via social media try to persuade Newman to at least take a look at Marquette.

I've got an extra Corvette laying around.  Maybe he'll want it?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MU82 on May 17, 2014, 02:49:35 PM
They are teenagers. They'll say and do all kinds of things. If they want to hang together, or attend college together, then that's what they should do.

We certainly wouldn't have been upset if Stone and Duane had said they were a package deal and both chose Marquette.

I won't lose even a second of sleep about a teenager's college decision. I have no control over it. If Stone comes to Marquette, fantastic. And if he doesn't, I'm confident Wojo will bring in a good class.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 17, 2014, 02:51:45 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
We have been for a long time.  But this is the first time we've more or less heard it from the horse's mouth, without him actually saying it.

Well, hell, Stone isn't all that good anyhow!
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2014, 02:51:45 PM
Well, hell, Stone isn't all that good anyhow!

Yeah I heard he has attitude issues.  Or doesn't try hard on every single possession.  Or is lazy.  Or something like that.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: mileskishnish72 on May 17, 2014, 04:57:55 PM
Wojo has probably cooled on him.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Jay Bee on May 17, 2014, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
So JB, we're out of the Stone sweepstakes?

Still in play.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 17, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 17, 2014, 06:50:38 PM
Still in play.

For Diamond Stone? We need him. He's the best basketball player ever!
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 07:05:41 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
For Diamond Stone? We need him. He's the best basketball player ever!

Kid puts in maximum effort on every play.  High motor.  Just the kind of kid we want at Marquette.  Tough.  A true Warrior.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2014, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 17, 2014, 06:50:38 PM
Still in play.

So this means that despite these 2 *saying* they are a package deal, they may not be after all, as it typically (although not always) turns out in these cases?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 17, 2014, 07:14:53 PM
JB

What I have read, all of it right here in the irrefutable, unassailable, and august pages of Scoop, is that Stone lapped up Bert's snake oil but Papa was a Rolling Stone saw through the Hillbilly's pretenses for what he really was and was therefore against Marquette. How has Bert's skidaddle affected MU's recruitment effort?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 17, 2014, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 17, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
What we need to do is via social media try to persuade Newman to at least take a look at Marquette.

Great idea.  Please contact the UltimateWarrior, Illinois fans, and Mizzou fans for tips on how best to accomplish this.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: esotericmindguy on May 17, 2014, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
For Diamond Stone? We need him. He's the best basketball player ever!

I know you're kidding. But to put things in perspective. Kansas and Duke had 5 star kids surrounding the top two kids in the NBA draft and they both lost early in the tourney. Obviously I'd like for him to attend Marquette, but what they really need is good players to stay 4 years, not bail once playing time isn't immediately available. He sounds like a 1 year player, not the end of world if he goes somewhere else.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 17, 2014, 10:07:19 PM
MU definitely still in play. Not saying it will happen. But we are without a doubt still one of the leaders.

I wouldn't put much stock in this package deal. They would love to play together, but if they don't agree on the school, they will split without hesitation.

MU, UNC are the leaders.

UCLA, UConn, and UW are trailing but in the conversation.

Duke has dropped out.

UK is more interested in Ivan Rabb, Cheick Diallo, Stephen Zimmerman, and Skal Labissiere. If they strike out on three or more of them, you gotta think they will be targeting Stone hard.

Stone is a smart kid. He is enjoying his recruiting process and will let continue for awhile from what I am hearing.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: HutchwasClutch on May 18, 2014, 08:31:15 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 17, 2014, 10:07:19 PM


UK is more interested in Ivan Rabb, Cheick Diallo, Stephen Zimmerman, and Skal Labissiere. If they strike out on three or more of them, you gotta think they will be targeting Stone hard.



I have nothing concrete to back this up, but judging from top ranked recruiting classes year after year,  I think it's very safe to say Kentucky rarely, if ever, especially under Calipari, strikes out on two or more of their top targets, let alone three or more.   So if you're correct about they're top targets, Stone won't be heading there anyway.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: HutchwasClutch on May 18, 2014, 08:36:42 AM
Agree with many other posters that kids talk big about package deals, but rarely does it actually happen.  And I can't think of a more stupid reason to pick your college based on what one of your AAU circuit or however they know each other, buddy's choose.  I know these high level kids like Stone and Newman are only using college as a springboard for the NBA, but it would still be a galactically stupid reason for a school choice. 

What happened to the days when top players could be friends, but at the same time, badly wanted bragging rights because they're team was better?   Hate all the kum ba yah crap nowadays in sports, be friends outside the lines, inside, try to be the best and elevate your team over other top players and their teams.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 18, 2014, 08:55:35 AM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 18, 2014, 08:36:42 AM
Agree with many other posters that kids talk big about package deals, but rarely does it actually happen.  And I can't think of a more stupid reason to pick your college based on what one of your AAU circuit or however they know each other, buddy's choose.  I know these high level kids like Stone and Newman are only using college as a springboard for the NBA, but it would still be a galactically stupid reason for a school choice. 

What happened to the days when top players could be friends, but at the same time, badly wanted bragging rights because they're team was better?   Hate all the kum ba yah crap nowadays in sports, be friends outside the lines, inside, try to be the best and elevate your team over other top players and their teams.

This is 2014.  High school basketball season takes a backseat to AAU. More scouts and better competition in the AAU circuit pal.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: HutchwasClutch on May 18, 2014, 09:01:23 AM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 18, 2014, 08:55:35 AM
This is 2014.  High school basketball season takes a backseat to AAU. More scouts and better competition in the AAU circuit pal.

What's your point "pal"?  

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 18, 2014, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 18, 2014, 09:01:23 AM
What's your point "pal"?  



Piggy tailing off what you said, pal
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on May 18, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 17, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
If you are from Chicago why the hell are you living in freakin Kenosha?
I am from Skokie not Chicago

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on May 18, 2014, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 18, 2014, 08:36:42 AM
Agree with many other posters that kids talk big about package deals, but rarely does it actually happen.  And I can't think of a more stupid reason to pick your college based on what one of your AAU circuit or however they know each other, buddy's choose.  I know these high level kids like Stone and Newman are only using college as a springboard for the NBA, but it would still be a galactically stupid reason for a school choice. 

What happened to the days when top players could be friends, but at the same time, badly wanted bragging rights because they're team was better?   Hate all the kum ba yah crap nowadays in sports, be friends outside the lines, inside, try to be the best and elevate your team over other top players and their teams.

AAU athletes always talk about 'package' deal but when push comes to shove it rarely happens, unless they are brothers or something
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 18, 2014, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on May 18, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
I am from Skokie not Chicago



Oh
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 18, 2014, 07:31:28 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on May 18, 2014, 07:15:40 PM
AAU athletes always talk about 'package' deal but when push comes to shove it rarely happens, unless they are brothers or something

Duece Bello and Quincy Miller- Baylor

Okafor and Jones- Duke

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2014, 07:45:35 PM
Sonny and Cher
Cheech and Chong
Captain and Toenail
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MUDPT on May 18, 2014, 07:48:08 PM
Demar Derozen and Lil Romeo
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 18, 2014, 08:02:25 PM
Castor & Pollux

Fish & Chips

Damon & Pythias

Marks & Spencer

Reems & Lovelace

Fred & Ethel

Click & Clack (Dewey, Cheatem, & Howe)

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on May 18, 2014, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 18, 2014, 07:31:28 PM
Duece Bello and Quincy Miller- Baylor

Okafor and Jones- Duke



Way to pick out the few exceptions
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 18, 2014, 10:03:38 PM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 18, 2014, 07:31:28 PM
Duece Bello and Quincy Miller- Baylor

Okafor and Jones- Duke



Bello and Miller were a true package deal. But bellow want getting the same attention as Miller. Miller used it as leverage to get bello offers.

Jones and player both happened to love duke. What have split if they wanted different schools
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 19, 2014, 09:30:20 AM
Sears and K-Mart
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 19, 2014, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 19, 2014, 09:30:20 AM
Sears and K-Mart

The Marquette Duo is Sears and Montgomery Wards.

Both had MU alums as CEO during the long, slow death spiral.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on May 19, 2014, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: keefe on May 18, 2014, 08:02:25 PM
Castor & Pollux

Fish & Chips

Damon & Pythias

Marks & Spencer

Reems & Lovelace

Fred & Ethel

Click & Clack (Dewey, Cheatem, & Howe)



S & M

Ben & Jerry

Bert & Ernie

Boris & Natasha

Penn & Teller
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 11:50:07 AM
http://scouthoops.scout.com/story/1403814-stone-talks-package-deal-with-newman?s=75
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 17, 2014, 10:07:19 PM
MU definitely still in play. Not saying it will happen. But we are without a doubt still one of the leaders.

I wouldn't put much stock in this package deal. They would love to play together, but if they don't agree on the school, they will split without hesitation.

MU, UNC are the leaders.

UCLA, UConn, and UW are trailing but in the conversation.

Duke has dropped out.

UK is more interested in Ivan Rabb, Cheick Diallo, Stephen Zimmerman, and Skal Labissiere. If they strike out on three or more of them, you gotta think they will be targeting Stone hard.

Stone is a smart kid. He is enjoying his recruiting process and will let continue for awhile from what I am hearing.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 19, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
Bonnie and Cylde
Peanut Butter and Jelly
Hookers and VD
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 19, 2014, 12:10:55 PM
Quote from: Tyrion on May 19, 2014, 11:44:07 AM
S & M

Ben & Jerry

Bert & Ernie

Boris & Natasha

Penn & Teller

Sid & Nancy

Vladimir & Estragon

Nichols & May

Chalk & Cheese

Rowan & Martin

Sam & Dave

Butch & Sundance
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: JakeBarnes on May 19, 2014, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 19, 2014, 12:10:55 PM
Sid & Nancy

Vladimir & Estragon

Nichols & May

Chalk & Cheese

Rowan & Martin

Sam & Dave

Butch & Sundance

Benny & the Jets
Beer and another beer
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: 🏀 on May 19, 2014, 12:20:56 PM
Martini & Rossi
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 19, 2014, 12:31:27 PM
Jake & The Fat man.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: reinko on May 19, 2014, 12:48:47 PM
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(http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2vm7bsn-1238580.jpg)

(http://triviamafia.com/storage/hart-foundation-dvd-set-wrestling-wwf-wwe-bret-hart-a4f8d.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1323204717438)

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Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 19, 2014, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on May 19, 2014, 12:18:05 PM
Beer and another beer

The name of a fine Jakarta watering hole: Satu Lagi (One more)
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 19, 2014, 01:04:34 PM
Come on, Reinko!

(http://i.imgur.com/mFYnCHs.jpg)
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: reinko on May 19, 2014, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 19, 2014, 01:04:34 PM
Come on, Reinko!


I am shamed.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 19, 2014, 02:31:19 PM
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 11:50:07 AM
http://scouthoops.scout.com/story/1403814-stone-talks-package-deal-with-newman?s=75

I'm not a member. Care to copy and paste?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 03:31:35 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 19, 2014, 02:31:19 PM
I'm not a member. Care to copy and paste?

Off the court, Stone informed Scout.com of some significant news in regards to his recruitment.
"Me and Malik (Newman) are going to the same school," Stone said. "We are still trying to figure out what school we are going to."
When pressed if it wasn't definitely a package deal, Stone responded definitively.
"Yes," he said.
"We have like a brother-like relationship," Stone added. "We talk every night with face time and phone calls. We are just there for each other."


Stone scored 27 points twice at the UA Invitational
2014 recruits Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones were a package deal. The two went through the recruiting process and took visits together. In the end, they both settled on Duke. Is Stone and Newman's relationship similar to Jones and Okafor?
"A little bit stronger," Stone said with a laugh.
Stone said he and Newman first met at middle school camp and got close through their time at USA Basketball.
"We were at John Lucas Camp in 8th grade," Stone said. "We didn't really talk but we were on the same team. Then when we went out to USA Colorado and he asked to room with me. Then we just started bonding. Me, him and Ivan [Rabb]."
While Stone, Scout.com's No. 3 player, has offers from a host of high major schools, he didn't list any on Saturday.
"I haven't cut my list down," Stone said. "I did have a couple of home visits."
Stone did mention that he hosted Illinois, Duke, Oklahoma State and Connecticut for in-home visits. He broke down what he liked about each of the four.
Duke: "Coach K is a great coach. He's with USA so that's always good. He's a good coach. He's a legend. He gets guys to the NBA. He helps guys with a back up plan and makes them a better person and a better man."
Illinois: "It's a good school too. Coach [John] Groce is a great guy and funny. He gets guys to the next level. He's coached a lot of NBA guys like Greg Oden."
Connecticut: "UConn came in. [Kevin Ollie] is a great talker. He's great at everything. He's really emotional and that's what I like about him. He's not scared to show his emotional side and he's just a great person."
Oklahoma State: "It's a great school. It's a real good school and has a great campus. They are top 10 every year."
Stone said he hasn't taken any recent visits, but plans to take them with Newman.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 19, 2014, 03:37:04 PM
Just sayin'
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 19, 2014, 04:58:31 PM
If Malik picks some place Diamond doesn't want to go, they will split and vice versa. There is a reason package deals are so rare.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 05:10:12 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 19, 2014, 04:58:31 PM
If Malik picks some place Diamond doesn't want to go, they will split and vice versa. There is a reason package deals are so rare.

Their are plenty of schools that will be acceptable to both......
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 19, 2014, 09:52:06 PM
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 05:10:12 PM
Their are plenty of schools that will be acceptable to both......

I don't think either of them wants to settle for acceptable. Malik will go to his number one. Diamond will go to his number one. They may end up being the same school but I doubt either would compromise for the other.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
So it will just be a coincidence if they end up at the same school.....got it..... ::)

If that is how it was going to be all Diamond had to say was "I would like to play with Malik...we are good friends...I hope we end up at the same school but we both have to pick the school that is right for us.."

We will see how it works out but I think you are dreaming if you don't think that is the plan.

Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 20, 2014, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
So it will just be a coincidence if they end up at the same school.....got it..... ::)

If that is how it was going to be all Diamond had to say was "I would like to play with Malik...we are good friends...I hope we end up at the same school but we both have to pick the school that is right for us.."

We will see how it works out but I think you are dreaming if you don't think that is the plan.

Ah but I have an entire history of 17 year old boys saying they are going to do one thing and then changing their minds when it comes decision time. There is a reason there are so few examples of these declared package deals working out.

If they do end up together, it will be at UNC. They are both high on Williams' priority list. Kentucky could make a play but they already have Charles Matthews and have at least four bigs prioritized ahead of Stone. Otherwise, not too many of the schools are recruiting both. If schools buy the package deal bit, they might start going for both.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: keefe on May 20, 2014, 12:10:28 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 20, 2014, 12:08:07 AM
Ah but I have an entire history of 17 year old boys saying they are going to do one thing and then changing their minds when it comes decision time.

Hey! Wait just a second! TAMU is the BRONZED BEAST!!
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 20, 2014, 05:17:47 AM
Its gonna get real for you clowns soon
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 20, 2014, 05:49:23 AM
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
So it will just be a coincidence if they end up at the same school.....got it..... ::)

If that is how it was going to be all Diamond had to say was "I would like to play with Malik...we are good friends...I hope we end up at the same school but we both have to pick the school that is right for us.."

We will see how it works out but I think you are dreaming if you don't think that is the plan.



What schools have offered both?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 20, 2014, 06:46:45 AM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 20, 2014, 05:49:23 AM
What schools have offered both?


*Which
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ATWizJr on May 20, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
Quote from: ThatDude on May 20, 2014, 05:17:47 AM
Its gonna get real for you clowns soon
Wazzat mean?
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: martyconlonontherun on May 20, 2014, 08:17:57 AM
Quote from: MuMark on May 19, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
So it will just be a coincidence if they end up at the same school.....got it..... ::)

If that is how it was going to be all Diamond had to say was "I would like to play with Malik...we are good friends...I hope we end up at the same school but we both have to pick the school that is right for us.."

We will see how it works out but I think you are dreaming if you don't think that is the plan.

I thought me and my friends were going to the same school up til my senior year. We then realized we had different views and went to different schools. If I would've ended up at Madison with them, it would've ended up being me liking Madison rather than actually going with them.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 20, 2014, 08:49:49 AM
Quote from: keefe on May 20, 2014, 12:10:28 AM
Hey! Wait just a second! TAMU is the BRONZED BEAST!!

(http://www.eslprintables.com/forum/my_documents/my_pictures/2010/sep/C71_woman_slapping_man_hg_clr.gif)

How dare you sir! I have punched men for much less!
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
Quote from: ATWizJr on May 20, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
  Wazzat mean?

It means he likes to make vague but powerful statements that will allow him to go back in six months and tell everyone "see I told you Diamond wasn't coming here" or "see I told you Diamond was coming here" when he decides.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 20, 2014, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 20, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
It means he likes to make vague but powerful statements that will allow him to go back in six months and tell everyone "see I told you Diamond wasn't coming here" or "see I told you Diamond was coming here" when he decides.

I guess that he's overdue for one.  ThatDude has been on the receiving end pretty regularly for some time now.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 20, 2014, 10:08:16 AM
Plus ones for all of you
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: hoyasincebirth on May 20, 2014, 10:39:38 AM
UK, Kansas, UNC, or Uconn. They will both end up at one of those schools. They are a package.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 29, 2014, 12:19:40 AM
Move on, he isn't coming. 


Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: NersEllenson on May 29, 2014, 08:37:45 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 29, 2014, 12:19:40 AM
Move on, he isn't coming.  


Was that your dating philosophy as well Chicos?   :D
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: leever on May 29, 2014, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 29, 2014, 12:19:40 AM
Move on, he isn't coming. 






There are pills that can help with that.
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ThatDude on May 29, 2014, 11:11:02 AM
Maybe we can get Ellenson...long shot I know
Title: Re: Package Deal
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 29, 2014, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: leever on May 29, 2014, 11:04:30 AM
There are pills that can help with that.

When I get to your age, send me a link. 
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