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Title: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ThatDude on April 29, 2014, 12:36:02 PM
Do anyone know exactly how Wojo plans to coach?

Coaching style? Is his offense guard oriented? What does he look for in players/recruits?

Serious responses only!

I'm excited about Wojo and hope he can elevate this program
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: wadesworld on April 29, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
Recruit players who can pass, dribble, and shoot.  Win basketball games.  Teach kids to become young men.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Groin_pull on April 29, 2014, 12:47:37 PM
I assume Duke will be the model. Up-tempo offense...plenty of three-point shots...and a strong defense. I think Wojo will be recruiting more traditionals and fewer tweeners. I also think he'll be focusing on recruits who aren't afraid to open a text book or attend class.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: wadesworld on April 29, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
I assume Duke will be the model. Up-tempo offense...plenty of three-point shots...and a strong defense. I think Wojo will be recruiting more traditionals and fewer tweeners. I also think he'll be focusing on recruits who aren't afraid to open a text book or attend class.

Can't speak for opening a book, but attending class has not been a problem for Marquette basketball, at least from the 2007-2008 season to the 2010-2011 season.  And since the same coach was here from that last season through this past season I would assume that hasn't changed.  Had a number of players in the same classes as me during my time at Marquette and the thing I was most impressed about with them was that unless they were playing a game pretty much that day, they were in class.  Even if they would be playing an 8 PM game out on the East Coast that ended at 10 PM, they would still be in their 9:00 AM class the next morning.  I would guess the earliest they would be back on campus would've been about 1:00 AM and they were still there for class the next day.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ThatDude on April 29, 2014, 12:51:42 PM
I assume Duke will be the model. Up-tempo offense...plenty of three-point shots...and a strong defense. I think Wojo will be recruiting more traditionals and fewer tweeners. I also think he'll be focusing on recruits who aren't afraid to open a text book or attend class.

I likes that.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 29, 2014, 01:01:45 PM
Lots of floor slapping on D.
 (http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/916/507/swojo_display_image.jpg?1304551362)
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 01:14:39 PM
Lots of floor slapping on D.
 (http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/916/507/swojo_display_image.jpg?1304551362)

Is he the originator of that silliness or was that already a Duke thing when he showed up? Either way it is pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 29, 2014, 01:33:41 PM
I think Wojo will be recruiting more traditionals and fewer tweeners. I also think he'll be focusing on recruits who aren't afraid to open a text book or attend class.

So more white guys and by no means any Dwyane Wade types. Glad that has you excited for our future. Color me unconvinced.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Groin_pull on April 29, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
So more white guys and by no means any Dwyane Wade types. Glad that has you excited for our future. Color me unconvinced.

Leave it to a sh*thead like you to automatically link "opening a text book" and "attending class" with "white guys."

So sad that is your first reaction. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: GGGG on April 29, 2014, 01:39:02 PM
Ugh...not sure why we have to turn this into a racial thing.

Here are some thoughts based on what Duke does:

**Much greater emphasis on spacing, which a premium placed on outside shooting to create such space.
**Bigs that don't post up as much as they run the floor and can step out and shoot mid-range.
**More off the ball movement.
**Less emphasis on the dribble drive, although Duke has relied more on that in the last couple of years.
**A defense that sits back more and isn't as aggressive as we have seen under Buzz.  More of a traditional, help defense.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: MU B2002 on April 29, 2014, 01:41:30 PM


Serious responses only!



I am afraid you came to the wrong place.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 29, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
Leave it to a sh*thead like you to automatically link "opening a text book" and "attending class" with "white guys."

So sad that is your first reaction. Pathetic.

He was equating traditionals with race not the studying part of what you were saying
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ThatDude on April 29, 2014, 01:50:49 PM
Is he the originator of that silliness or was that already a Duke thing when he showed up? Either way it is pretty stupid.

I concur. I don't want "floor slaps" to be associated with Marquette.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 29, 2014, 01:53:44 PM
Is he the originator of that silliness or was that already a Duke thing when he showed up? Either way it is pretty stupid.

No idea who started it.  I clearly remember Cubillan doing it on a number of occasions, and think Diener might have done it as well.

To me, it's kind of a risk thing - how much do you want to risk looking stupid? If you slap the floor and make a huge defensive play, it can really get the crowd and team pumped.  Doesn't look quite so dumb.  But if your man blows past you or hits a 3 right over you when your hands are on the floor, well.... :o
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 29, 2014, 01:56:07 PM
No idea who started it.  I clearly remember Cubillan doing it on a number of occasions, and think Diener might have done it as well.

To me, it's kind of a risk thing - how much do you want to risk looking stupid? If you slap the floor and make a huge defensive play, it can really get the crowd and team pumped.  Doesn't look quite so dumb.  But if your man blows past you or hits a 3 right over you when your hands are on the floor, well.... :o

I4 adopted it at MU during his tenure.  Not sure if Wojo started it or not.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: mileskishnish72 on April 29, 2014, 02:02:54 PM
I had a friend who would slap the floor on D - this was HS ball - this was in the early 60's.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 29, 2014, 02:12:19 PM
it's a guard thing, bigs can't reach the floor to slap it
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 29, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
Leave it to a sh*thead like you to automatically link "opening a text book" and "attending class" with "white guys."

So sad that is your first reaction. Pathetic.

You make an absolutely unfounded and denigrating remark (that on the surface at least seems racist) about our former players and I'm the sh#thead. Talk about pathetic. Grow up "Groin Pull".
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Boone on April 29, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
Curious who Wojo hires to fill out his staff. Hoping for a recruiter type, as neither Carrawell or Phelps seem to come in with that reputation.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: GGGG on April 29, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
I had a friend who would slap the floor on D - this was HS ball - this was in the early 60's.


The #1 seeded Michigan team that lost to eventually national champion Villanova back in 1985 slapped the floor like that.  The reason I know that is because my girlfriend had a thing for Antoine Joubert (Michigan guard), and we watched them lose that game on the couch in her living room...she was outwardly upset...I was inwardly happy.

That Michigan team was the #2 team in the country at the start of the tournament.  (Behind Georgetown of course.)  Roy Tarpley, Richard Relliford, Gary Grant...
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 29, 2014, 03:12:06 PM
Judging on the players he has been watching and offering, it looks like he places a high value on bigs and shooting.

Duke is most know for it's shooting and "traditional" style of play. But they have won in many different ways. I trust Wojo will adapt his style to the personnel that he has.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 29, 2014, 03:22:36 PM
I'm figurin' our team will be known for slappin' the monkey.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: River rat on April 29, 2014, 04:51:24 PM

The #1 seeded Michigan team that lost to eventually national champion Villanova back in 1985 slapped the floor like that.  The reason I know that is because my girlfriend had a thing for Antoine Joubert (Michigan guard), and we watched them lose that game on the couch in her living room...she was outwardly upset...I was inwardly happy.

That Michigan team was the #2 team in the country at the start of the tournament.  (Behind Georgetown of course.)  Roy Tarpley, Richard Relliford, Gary Grant...

Did u have the gheri curl too?
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 29, 2014, 05:18:28 PM
You make an absolutely unfounded and denigrating remark (that on the surface at least seems racist) about our former players and I'm the sh#thead. Talk about pathetic. Grow up "Groin Pull".

Judging from his past posts about how fine the girls in his past have been I think that's a fairly accurate statement.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 29, 2014, 05:24:03 PM
Leave it to a sh*thead like you to automatically link "opening a text book" and "attending class" with "white guys."

So sad that is your first reaction. Pathetic.

It seems you were the one to make that connection.  In case another one of your multiple personalities made the original post, I can quote the relevant passage:

"I think Wojo will be recruiting more traditionals and fewer tweeners. I also think he'll be focusing on recruits who aren't afraid to open a text book or attend class."
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Groin_pull on April 29, 2014, 05:27:04 PM
You make an absolutely unfounded and denigrating remark (that on the surface at least seems racist) about our former players and I'm the sh#thead. Talk about pathetic. Grow up "Groin Pull".

Wojo comes from Duke...one of the premier institutions in this country. A school known for its sterling academics. Doesn't it stand to reason that he would attempt to maintain those same high standards at MU? Especially when the previous coach was rumored to be taking some recent shortcuts.

Hope you can comprehend this...unless you're still busy trying to twist my comments and turn this into a black/white issue.

You're a sad person if you see a comment about lifting academic standards and immediately think...more white guys.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: willie warrior on April 29, 2014, 05:33:41 PM
Ugh...not sure why we have to turn this into a racial thing.

Here are some thoughts based on what Duke does:

**Much greater emphasis on spacing, which a premium placed on outside shooting to create such space.
**Bigs that don't post up as much as they run the floor and can step out and shoot mid-range.
**More off the ball movement.
**Less emphasis on the dribble drive, although Duke has relied more on that in the last couple of years.
**A defense that sits back more and isn't as aggressive as we have seen under Buzz.  More of a traditional, help defense.
Pretty good analysis, Sultan. I will admit I have not seen much of Duke the last two years, but "a defense that sits back" does not fit their style from what I have seen over the years. They have been primarily very aggressive.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: willie warrior on April 29, 2014, 05:36:26 PM
I concur. I don't want "floor slaps" to be associated with Marquette.
Concur. Leave that for Duke. How about this: all 5 of our defenders slap the top of the backboard.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: willie warrior on April 29, 2014, 05:39:06 PM
I'm figurin' our team will be known for slappin' the monkey.
I have been told by the masters, it is "spanking the monkey"
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on April 29, 2014, 07:09:06 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PFCVN_xOQHQ/UVSgfMNZisI/AAAAAAAALIE/ZQnP7qjBmzY/s1600/guy-with-a-plan.gif)
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: We R Final Four on April 29, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
Mandy Johnson would slap the floor at late moments in big games. He is the earliest one that I can recall doing it.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 09:13:09 PM
Ugh...not sure why we have to turn this into a racial thing.

Here are some thoughts based on what Duke does:

**More of a traditional defense.

Really
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: real chili 83 on April 29, 2014, 09:15:12 PM
Do anyone know exactly how Wojo plans to coach?

Coaching style? Is his offense guard oriented? What does he look for in players/recruits?

Serious responses only!

I'm excited about Wojo and hope he can elevate this program


Are you Mike Hunt?   ;)
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
I'm figurin' our team will be known for slappin' the monkey.

You mean spanking? Slapping is what one does to the Purple Helmeted German Soldier...
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on April 29, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
Did u have the gheri curl too?

One of my MU roommates from Grand Rapids disliked MI (he was a MiSt fan pre MU days) but was a big fan of Antoine.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: real chili 83 on April 29, 2014, 09:19:30 PM
Is he the originator of that silliness or was that already a Duke thing when he showed up? Either way it is pretty stupid.

I highly doubt, no, Duke did not start that.  Period.  It's like saying Duke invented the high five.

Give me a break.

I've liked everything I've heard from Wojo up until that stupid comment in Mike Hunt's interview today.  
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 29, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Wojo comes from Duke...one of the premier institutions in this country. A school known for its sterling academics. Doesn't it stand to reason that he would attempt to maintain those same high standards at MU? Especially when the previous coach was rumored to be taking some recent shortcuts.

Hope you can comprehend this...unless you're still busy trying to twist my comments and turn this into a black/white issue.

You're a sad person if you see a comment about lifting academic standards and immediately think...more white guys.

Pathetic.

So you think he'll recruit more "traditionals"  who "aren't afraid to open a text book or attend class" in contrast to our current or former players who, in your mind, evidently weren't traditionals and were afraid to open their text books and attend class. But you mean no offense to them. Uh, okay.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: forgetful on April 29, 2014, 11:36:37 PM
Is he the originator of that silliness or was that already a Duke thing when he showed up? Either way it is pretty stupid.

I can say with certainty that my middle school team was doing that long before Wojo was at Duke.  I think it is a very old thing.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ThatDude on April 29, 2014, 11:49:52 PM
Are you Mike Hunt?   ;)

Who is that?
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ThatDude on April 29, 2014, 11:50:38 PM
Oh nevermind I see
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Groin_pull on April 30, 2014, 09:36:52 AM
So you think he'll recruit more "traditionals"  who "aren't afraid to open a text book or attend class" in contrast to our current or former players who, in your mind, evidently weren't traditionals and were afraid to open their text books and attend class. But you mean no offense to them. Uh, okay.

Stop looking for controversy that simply doesn't exist. You might enjoy life more.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 30, 2014, 09:48:05 AM
Stop looking for controversy that simply doesn't exist. You might enjoy life more.

I enjoy life plenty. You took a cheap and unfair shot at our current and ex players. It was obvious to me and others. Instead of attacking me maybe you could try some reflection and an apology - but I won't hold my breath.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 30, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
You mean spanking? Slapping is what one does to the Purple Helmeted German Soldier...

punch the clown
flog the bishop
slap the dolphin
give the one-eyed albino rhino a ride

then there's the variety:

use your off hand
the stranger.
the mechanic at my first job when I was 16 told me that he would turn his hand inward to simulate his wife's mouth cuz she didn't do that any more.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Groin_pull on April 30, 2014, 10:59:57 AM
I enjoy life plenty. You took a cheap and unfair shot at our current and ex players. It was obvious to me and others. Instead of attacking me maybe you could try some reflection and an apology - but I won't hold my breath.

Reflection? An apology? Wow. How about a dozen Hail Marys too?

This board is exhausting and life is much too short to waste it on you people. I'm done with this nonsense. (Yeah, yeah, I know, I won't be missed)

Oops, I just noticed I said "you people." That must be code for something, right Lenny?
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ThatDude on April 30, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
Lennys Tap

You are right.  I mean it DOES seem like Wojo is going after a ton of white guys. Look at the recent scholarship offers...says a lot to me
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
punch the clown
flog the bishop
slap the dolphin
give the one-eyed albino rhino a ride

then there's the variety:

use your off hand
the stranger.
the mechanic at my first job when I was 16 told me that he would turn his hand inward to simulate his wife's mouth cuz she didn't do that any more.

That's IT! I have had enough of your vulgarity!

IGNORE!
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: GGGG on April 30, 2014, 11:33:36 AM
Lennys Tap

You are right.  I mean it DOES seem like Wojo is going after a ton of white guys. Look at the recent scholarship offers...says a lot to me


What exactly does it say to you?
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 30, 2014, 11:34:30 AM
Wojo comes from Duke...one of the premier institutions in this country. A school known for its sterling academics. Doesn't it stand to reason that he would attempt to maintain those same high standards at MU? Especially when the previous coach was rumored to be taking some recent shortcuts.

Hope you can comprehend this...unless you're still busy trying to twist my comments and turn this into a black/white issue.

You're a sad person if you see a comment about lifting academic standards and immediately think...more white guys.

Pathetic.

You mean that same team that had Otule and Lockett playing while going to grad school? Ok...Currently being on campus they all go to class. I obviously dont know their study habits but they must be doing enough to pass classes. Plus you inferred this meant more white guys, dont pretend and back down like you didnt.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: GGGG on April 30, 2014, 11:34:38 AM
Pretty good analysis, Sultan. I will admit I have not seen much of Duke the last two years, but "a defense that sits back" does not fit their style from what I have seen over the years. They have been primarily very aggressive.


Yeah, I think you are correct about that.  Wojo mentioned in his interview with Hunt yesterday that he prefers a pressure type of defense.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Blackhat on April 30, 2014, 11:36:17 AM
I'm appalled. 
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 30, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
I'm figurin' our team will be known for slappin' the monkey.

That'll keep 'em off the front page of the Chicago Tribune.
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 11:40:08 AM
punch the clown
flog the bishop
slap the dolphin
give the one-eyed albino rhino a ride

then there's the variety:

use your off hand
the stranger.
the mechanic at my first job when I was 16 told me that he would turn his hand inward to simulate his wife's mouth cuz she didn't do that any more.

Dating Miss Michigan
Staff Meeting
Pulling the Goalie
Ironing Out the Wrinkles
Assault on a Friendly Weapon
Hand to Gland Combat
Dishonorable Discharge
Holding a Sausage Hostage
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: swoopem on April 30, 2014, 11:43:25 AM
I highly doubt, no, Duke did not start that.  Period.  It's like saying Duke invented the high five.

Give me a break.

I've liked everything I've heard from Wojo up until that stupid comment in Mike Hunt's interview today.  

Everyone knows Dusty Baker invented the high five
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 30, 2014, 11:46:48 AM
Dating Miss Michigan
Staff Meeting
Pulling the Goalie
Ironing Out the Wrinkles
Assault on a Friendly Weapon
Hand to Gland Combat
Dishonorable Discharge
Holding a Sausage Hostage

Yeah, yeah, but can you Haiku it?
Title: Re: Whats Wojo's plan?
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 11:53:43 AM
Yeah, yeah, but can you Haiku it?

the devil's handshake
making the bald man throw up
jack meoff is back