It doesn't look like he's landed anywhere, maybe he's back to MU? Really hope, he seems like a rising star, especially in recruiting circles.
I'm sure Wojo will bring in a really good staff, just saying, sure would be nice to bring him back in the fold.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 04, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
It doesn't look like he's landed anywhere, maybe he's back to MU? Really hope, he seems like a rising star, especially in recruiting circles.
I'm sure Wojo will bring in a really good staff, just saying, sure would be nice to bring him back in the fold.
Can't believe VT can afford him. Love to see him back at MU, but I would be surprised.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 04, 2014, 10:06:28 PM
Can't believe VT can afford him. Love to see him back at MU, but I would be surprised.
I don't know what to think about his return possibility- impossible to know what Wojo's thinking for his staff- seems like it would make all the sense in the world though- his strong Chicago recruiting ties, his relationships with current MU players and signees, strong recruiting rep, etc.
You never name your assistant coaches in these coaching change situations. He is probably on Buzz's staff but not yet officially. The advantage is you can make contact and recruit because you are not yet attached to a school.
Time for fresh start. Never keep a guy because you think he can get job. Hire a guy you know can get job done.
http://www.gobblercountry.com/2014/3/27/5553240/virginia-tech-hokies-basketball-staff-rounding-out-buzz-williams-assistants-leaving-marquette
According to the link above Jeff Chew, Brad Autry and Reynolds are lined up for VT.
For those of you who don't click the link I know it is Issac but the article calls him Jeff in the opening.
Quote from: BallBoy on April 04, 2014, 10:49:23 PM
http://www.gobblercountry.com/2014/3/27/5553240/virginia-tech-hokies-basketball-staff-rounding-out-buzz-williams-assistants-leaving-marquette
According to the link above Jeff Chew, Brad Autry and Reynolds are lined up for VT.
For those of you who don't click the link I know it is Issac but the article calls him Jeff in the opening.
Looks like Buzz wants to do it with his guys only and not be open to new assistant coaches. Buzz's loyalty will be his demise. Essentially, he went to VaTech, to get a mulligan with his assistants. Perhaps Buzz cannot adapt to new assistants well?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 04, 2014, 11:01:17 PM
Looks like Buzz wants to do it with his guys only and not be open to new assistant coaches. Buzz's loyalty will be his demise. Essentially, he went to VaTech, to get a mulligan with his assistants. Perhaps Buzz cannot adapt to new assistants well?
Judging from the way Buzz treated the people in the AD that I know, Buzz doesn't have time for/connect with/respect many people. He just doesn't even notice them, whether it's on propose our not. That may be loyalty, but I think it's something else
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2014, 06:33:02 AM
Judging from the way Buzz treated the people in the AD that I know, Buzz doesn't have time for/connect with/respect many people. He just doesn't even notice them, whether it's on propose our not. That may be loyalty, but I think it's something else
Insecurity in life overall.
Autry is not going to VT.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on April 05, 2014, 09:43:42 AM
Autry is not going to VT.
Ooh ooh I want to be the one to say it... Source?
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2014, 06:33:02 AM
Judging from the way Buzz treated the people in the AD that I know, Buzz doesn't have time for/connect with/respect many people. He just doesn't even notice them, whether it's on propose our not. That may be loyalty, but I think it's something else
How can he have time? He hand writes a letter a day or more, he schedules everything down to the minute, he talks to how many people individually each day, he personally answers emails (really?).... I often wondered after a lot of his spiels about how he did this and that how he found time to get it all done, even with his sleep issues. I know I lead a busy life, not nearly as busy as a head basketball coach at a top division 1 program, but I could not find time to do all the ancillary "stuff" Buzz claimed to have done. No wonder stories like the above are now coming out.
Quote from: SERocks on April 05, 2014, 09:49:04 AM
How can he have time? He hand writes a letter a day or more, he schedules everything down to the minute, he talks to how many people individually each day, he personally answers emails (really?).... I often wondered after a lot of his spiels about how he did this and that how he found time to get it all done, even with his sleep issues. I know I lead a busy life, not nearly as busy as a head basketball coach at a top division 1 program, but I could not find time to do all the ancillary "stuff" Buzz claimed to have done. No wonder stories like the above are now coming out.
Believe the other stuff too. He definitely had time to email me back about mundane BB stuff I emailed him about, but he wouldn't acknowledge the coworkers that were in support roles at work.
Strange dude.
All of this stuff was brought up a long time ago, too. It's just that right now we're feeling betrayed so the fans are focusing more on the negatives rather than the positives. Buzz did right by Marquette's mission & Marquette Basketball in a lot of ways!
Quote from: SERocks on April 05, 2014, 09:49:04 AM
How can he have time? He hand writes a letter a day or more, he schedules everything down to the minute, he talks to how many people individually each day, he personally answers emails (really?).... I often wondered after a lot of his spiels about how he did this and that how he found time to get it all done, even with his sleep issues. I know I lead a busy life, not nearly as busy as a head basketball coach at a top division 1 program, but I could not find time to do all the ancillary "stuff" Buzz claimed to have done. No wonder stories like the above are now coming out.
The MU job is not easy for coaches like Buzz and Crean. I heard Crean say it was very difficult to recruit here back in the day. I got the same impression from Buzz as well. MU is a grinder for the above average coach, it seems. We'll see how Wojo recruits. I think the Nick Noskowiak situation shows that Wojo thinks he can do better, which is a great sign.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 04, 2014, 10:06:28 PM
Can't believe VT can afford him. Love to see him back at MU, but I would be surprised.
It'll come out of Buzz's comp.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2014, 09:53:20 AM
Believe the other stuff too. He definitely had time to email me back about mundane BB stuff I emailed him about, but he wouldn't acknowledge the coworkers that were in support roles at work.
Strange dude.
All of this stuff was brought up a long time ago, too. It's just that right now we're feeling betrayed so the fans are focusing more on the negatives rather than the positives. Buzz did right by Marquette's mission & Marquette Basketball in a lot of ways!
This how he treated ppl stuff is interesting. I do not doubt it but I have spoken to staffers who worked for both and they always said Buzz was the friendly one, the guy who knew their name etc. Of course I have heard he explosed ego wise in the past 18 months so maybe my info wasn't as up to date.
On to Wojo. I'm excited.
Noskowiak choosing to open up HIS recruitment is exactly that. It doesn't mean that Wojo thinks he can do better...jumping to conclusions. You make it seem as if Wojo drove him away because he's not good enough.
Quote from: damuts222 on April 05, 2014, 10:33:42 AM
Noskowiak choosing to open up HIS recruitment is exactly that. It doesn't mean that Wojo thinks he can do better...jumping to conclusions. You make it seem as if Wojo drove him away because he's not good enough.
Time will only tell. Judging by who's offered scholarships to Noskowiak, I'd say his high ranking doesn't correlate with his talent level. I will bet money that Wojo brings in a more talented guard than Niskowiak.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 10:42:29 AM
Time will only tell. Judging by who's offered scholarships to Noskowiak, I'd say his high ranking doesn't correlate with his talent level. I will bet money that Wojo brings in a more talented guard than Niskowiak.
I don't see how you can come to this conclusion so soon. He has not recruited anyone for us yet and you automatically assume that he's going to land more talented players than a kid ranked in the top 60? Maybe he will...just way to early to start making proclamations like that.
Nobody is arguing that Wojo will or will not recruit a better player than Noskowiak. Whose to say Noskowiak won't still end up at Marquette? Noskowiak opened up his recruitment and I doubt Wojo told him to look elsewhere, which is what you are implying.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 05, 2014, 11:05:03 AM
I don't see how you can come to this conclusion so soon. He has not recruited anyone for us yet and you automatically assume that he's going to land more talented players than a kid ranked in the top 60? Maybe he will...just way to early to start making proclamations like that.
I'm taking the fact that the local papers put him on the all state team (4th team) and the fact that there aren't too many big name programs recruiting him. I'm doubting that he's some great, hidden talent. Not to mention, the recruiting websites aren't thoroughly managed well. Often times they have parts of them that aren't updated for months. I would be surprised if the next update didn't have Nick out of top 60.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
I'm taking the fact that the local papers put him on the all state team (4th team) and the fact that there aren't too many big name programs recruiting him. I'm doubting that he's some great, hidden talent. Not to mention, the recruiting websites aren't thoroughly managed well. Often times they have parts of them that aren't updated for months. I would be surprised if the next update didn't have Nick out of top 60.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-3252
Attached Rivals for 2015 was updated
ten days ago, with him at #61.
Since he committed to MU early, some of the bigger schools didn't offer. Now they are.
Do some research before spitting out all of these posts.
Quote from: nyg on April 05, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
https://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-3252
Attached Rivals for 2015 was updated ten days ago, with him at #61.
Well......I did say outside of the top 60 for the next update..... So far, I'm right.
Since he committed to MU early, some of the bigger schools didn't offer. Now they are.
Which big schools are offering? The ones on the page have been there for awhile. Are you the source? Do you know of new programs offering scholarships? If so.... you should tell us now or go to prison with Buzz
Do some research before spitting out all of these posts.
All I ask for is a rebuttal that disputes what I said. You've only confirmed what I have said. I hope you're not a lawyer.
Quote from: nyg on April 05, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
https://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-3252
Attached Rivals for 2015 was updated ten days ago, with him at #61.
Since he committed to MU early, some of the bigger schools didn't offer. Now they are.
Do some research before spitting out all of these posts.
#donedeal. This board doesn't let trivial things like research and facts get in the way of posting
Quote from: BallBoy on April 04, 2014, 10:49:23 PM
http://www.gobblercountry.com/2014/3/27/5553240/virginia-tech-hokies-basketball-staff-rounding-out-buzz-williams-assistants-leaving-marquette
According to the link above Jeff Chew, Brad Autry and Reynolds are lined up for VT.
For those of you who don't click the link I know it is Issac but the article calls him Jeff in the opening.
VaTech will officially announce Chew's hiring with a photo of Aki Collins.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
I'm taking the fact that the local papers put him on the all state team (4th team) and the fact that there aren't too many big name programs recruiting him. I'm doubting that he's some great, hidden talent. Not to mention, the recruiting websites aren't thoroughly managed well. Often times they have parts of them that aren't updated for months. I would be surprised if the next update didn't have Nick out of top 60.
It's comparing apples and oranges.
All-state honors are voted on by a bunch of small town papers who only see Nos play against other small town teams.
National scouting services base their rankings mostly on the AAU circuit playing against top players from around the country.
Quote from: brandx on April 05, 2014, 01:10:42 PM
It's comparing apples and oranges.
All-state honors are voted on by a bunch of small town papers who only see Nos play against other small town teams.
National scouting services base their rankings mostly on the AAU circuit playing against top players from around the country.
And that is the problem with the rankings. AAU basketball isn't as consistently coached as High School. X's and O's aren't nearly as prevalent as they are in AAU. AAU is more of a showcase of the top talent around the country. Fundamentals and defense aren't coached up, but it does give an opportunity for kids to travel around the country. There's always been the argument that the rise of AAU ball has actually hindered the development of basketball players in the USA. Many coaches are more or less, recruiters rather than actual coaches that care about the development of their players, promising kids false dreams. To me, I'm surprised this topic gets little attention by the analysts. I've heard Bilas go off against it as well as Bill Rafftery, but each of their comments was short spurted.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
I'm taking the fact that the local papers put him on the all state team (4th team) and the fact that there aren't too many big name programs recruiting him. I'm doubting that he's some great, hidden talent. Not to mention, the recruiting websites aren't thoroughly managed well. Often times they have parts of them that aren't updated for months. I would be surprised if the next update didn't have Nick out of top 60.
Why bash the kid? You're on a posting binge lately, but what's the point of this? He's a highly rated kid from nearby that clearly showed an interest in MU. The coach he committed to is gone, so he's making a wise decision to get more information. The day he mentioned he was re-opening up his recruitment, he immediately got offers from Xavier, Creighton, Illinois, and Iowa Sate. Bigger schools weren't offering previously because he committed to MU so early, but now that he mentioned he's open, they aren't wasting any time contacting him. We'll eventually see how it plays out, but there's no point in downplaying his abilities right now. I hope we can keep him around.
Quote from: BallBoy on April 04, 2014, 10:49:23 PM
http://www.gobblercountry.com/2014/3/27/5553240/virginia-tech-hokies-basketball-staff-rounding-out-buzz-williams-assistants-leaving-marquette
According to the link above Jeff Chew, Brad Autry and Reynolds are lined up for VT.
For those of you who don't click the link I know it is Issac but the article calls him Jeff in the opening.
According to author, "I would think a coach with Buzz's (
sic Brent) outsized personality might need a second in command in order to unruffle the player's feathers after a dressing down ..."
An earlier SB article referred to Bubs as having an "abrasive personality."
Might we conclude that VaTec fans have much keener insight into Brett's character than the possibly naive Warrior fan? Or, has Beauregard abandoned the Navarro Junior College jig and just come out and showed his real colours to the folks in Blackswamp?
It is a common practice (a little sleazy if you ask me) for a Head Coach to not formally sign his previous assistants for a
couple of weeks.....
If they are "unemployed" they can freely talk to all previous contacts.....Whether they be signed "MU recruits" or even "MU players".....
It is a "hole" in the college basketball system that "certain" coaches utilize to grab as much talent to the new school as possible.....
So basically Buzz is going after our players......Which he considers his players even though we paid him $2.8 million to sign these athletes....
Either way.....We will be fine....
Chew I am pretty sure is definitely working the phones for Buzz right now.....
That is why I believe WOJO is trying to protect "our turf" by not going to the Final 4.....
Buzz is smiling and congratulating WOJO with one hand.....and trying to sign away MU's recruits with the other.....
Just the way it works in the slimey world of Brent Williams......
MU should have held the contracts of those assistant coaches for a "couple of weeks" to completely let WOJO
evaluate if he wished to keep them.....Then Buzz would be committing an NCAA violation if he had contacted them for VT.....
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 12:08:21 PM
Stick to your day job dude as you have no clue what the heck your talking about. WOJO thinks he can do better? What a stupid comment. Why don't you go watch the NY2LA this weekend. I think you will take that comment back once you see him. The reason nobody else has offered the kid is because he committed to Marquette after his sophomore season. He is already ranked higher than Duane and trust me when I say the team playing tonight in the Final Four will be offering him ASAP. Bo couldn't be happier that the kid has re opened his recruitment. Now they have an in and will work just like WOJO will to develop that relationship. WOJO will be off to a really bad start if he cannot keep Nick committed.
Quote from: MU Beaver on April 05, 2014, 04:45:25 PM
Stick to your day job dude as you have no clue what the heck your talking about. WOJO thinks he can do better? What a stupid comment. Why don't you go watch the NY2LA this weekend. I think you will take that comment back once you see him. The reason nobody else has offered the kid is because he committed to Marquette after his sophomore season. He is already ranked higher than Duane and trust me when I say the team playing tonight in the Final Four will be offering him ASAP. Bo couldn't be happier that the kid has re opened his recruitment. Now they have an in and will work just like WOJO will to develop that relationship. WOJO will be off to a really bad start if he cannot keep Nick committed.
Nick.... I suggest you get your chores done. Your dad is in a bad mood right now.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Nick.... I suggest you get your chores done. Your dad is in a bad mood right now.
My God you are an idiot......
Quote from: nyg on April 05, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
https://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-3252
Attached Rivals for 2015 was updated ten days ago, with him at #61.
Since he committed to MU early, some of the bigger schools didn't offer. Now they are.
Do some research before spitting out all of these posts.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 12:08:21 PM
All I ask for is a rebuttal that disputes what I said. You've only confirmed what I have said. I hope you're not a lawyer.
It seems to me that a rebuttal is exactly what you got.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 05, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
It seems to me that a rebuttal is exactly what you got.
Yes, yes it was a rebuttal. Not a good one.... but it was one. I mean... top 60 isn't 61 and he didn't give me the names of any new big schools that were recruiting Nick. Ohhhhhhhhh well.
Everyone bashes AAU ball but the fact is in HS ball you do not get to face top players in your state let alone country 4-6 times in one weekend. You can run all the set plays you want in HS but in college defenses adjust and at some point players need to make plays.
Nick is the real deal
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
Yes, yes it was a rebuttal. Not a good one.... but it was one. I mean... top 60 isn't 61 and he didn't give me the names of any new big schools that were recruiting Nick. Ohhhhhhhhh well.
Dumbass like I said, just wait for the offers to start. When a kid commits as a sohpmore schools watch but normally stay away. They have stayed away but they won't anymore. I will give you a school right now: Wisconsin..... Virginia Tech... Xavier, which unlike Marquette made the tournament this year and has a top 10 class coming in next year. Get off this board you absolute idiot
Illinois, Xavier, Creighton have offered. Wisconsin will be offering in the next 48
Don't need Nick if Jelen comes to MU with his dad.
Quote from: injuryBug on April 05, 2014, 07:57:50 PM
Everyone bashes AAU ball but the fact is in HS ball you do not get to face top players in your state let alone country 4-6 times in one weekend. You can run all the set plays you want in HS but in college defenses adjust and at some point players need to make plays.
Nick is the real deal
AAU ball does have the better players, but you're not facing any sophisticated defenses. If Wiggins had played against better defenses, in AAU, he'd be a much better player right now. That's the thing with AAU. It has been criticized for hindering player's development since there is much of a focus on fundamentals in it.