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Title: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Warrior Code on April 04, 2014, 12:46:48 PM
The thread about changing the intro music got me thinking about other things we could change since we're getting a fresh start with Wojo. One that came to mind was the playing surface at the BC. I liked it when it came out, but now it looks dated and "loud," especially on tv. I think we could take another page from Duke and tone down the paint job. The court at Cameron is simple and elegant, whereas ours is now a bit much for me. Any thing else you'd like to see changed for next season?
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Texas Western on April 04, 2014, 12:54:51 PM
The thread about changing the intro music got me thinking about other things we could change since we're getting a fresh start with Wojo. One that came to mind was the playing surface at the BC. I liked it when it came out, but now it looks dated and "loud," especially on tv. I think we could take another page from Duke and tone down the paint job. The court at Cameron is simple and elegant, whereas ours is now a bit much for me. Any thing else you'd like to see changed for next season?
The loud is good. People know who we are and what MU insignia is. We haven't reached the level where we can be understated.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Nukem2 on April 04, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
The thread about changing the intro music got me thinking about other things we could change since we're getting a fresh start with Wojo. One that came to mind was the playing surface at the BC. I liked it when it came out, but now it looks dated and "loud," especially on tv. I think we could take another page from Duke and tone down the paint job. The court at Cameron is simple and elegant, whereas ours is now a bit much for me. Any thing else you'd like to see changed for next season?
Court looks great to me.  Distinctive with MU blue and gold colors.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Warrior Code on April 04, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
Hmm. Maybe I'm in the minority on this. 
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 04, 2014, 01:04:42 PM
Last time I checked Marquette is not Duke.  Just because our new coach was an assistant at Duke does not mean that he automatically thinks everything at Duke is worth bringing with him here to Marquette.  I would hope that he understands that the teams he will be recruiting and putting on the court will be of a much different make up than the teams he's used to at Duke.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Earl Tatum on April 04, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
We got the coach, also a good president in Lovell. Now let's get rid of the "Golden Eagles". It's WARRIORS!  WARRiORS!
WARRIORS!
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Warrior Code on April 04, 2014, 01:14:55 PM
Last time I checked Marquette is not Duke.  Just because our new coach was an assistant at Duke does not mean that he automatically thinks everything at Duke is worth bringing with him here to Marquette.  I would hope that he understands that the teams he will be recruiting and putting on the court will be of a much different make up than the teams he's used to at Duke.

I'm sure Wojo understands that.  I'm not saying we should try to be Duke, just that I don't particularly care for our design but I like theirs.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on April 04, 2014, 01:16:50 PM
agree we shouldn't try to be Duke, and I'm fine with a loud court, but I think changing it up would be pretty cool. Much like how our uniforms are distinctive, I think we could be a little more unique with ours.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: The Lens on April 04, 2014, 01:26:18 PM
I'd be up for taking "Al" off our jerseys.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Coleman on April 04, 2014, 01:27:51 PM
I'd be up for taking "Al" off our jerseys.

The question is, which do we replace it with, "Crean" or "Buzz"?
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: CTWarrior on April 04, 2014, 01:34:35 PM
Court looks great to me.  Distinctive with MU blue and gold colors.

+1
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Aughnanure on April 04, 2014, 01:36:58 PM
I'd be up for taking "Al" off our jerseys.

No.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Groin_pull on April 04, 2014, 01:44:01 PM
I'd be up for taking "Al" off our jerseys.

Me too. But could be convinced otherwise. However, wouldn't mind seeing some new uniforms. The current design has run its course.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
I'd be up for taking "Al" off our jerseys.

Only if we replace the chicken mascot with Hologram Al.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Earl Tatum on April 04, 2014, 01:58:57 PM
I Love "AL", but wouldn't mind taking the name off and "Yes" the unis could be changed. Still WARRIORS!
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on April 04, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
The thread about changing the intro music got me thinking about other things we could change since we're getting a fresh start with Wojo. One that came to mind was the playing surface at the BC. I liked it when it came out, but now it looks dated and "loud," especially on tv. I think we could take another page from Duke and tone down the paint job. The court at Cameron is simple and elegant, whereas ours is now a bit much for me. Any thing else you'd like to see changed for next season?
It's funny you'd write this.
I read uniwatch quite a bit and during several of the games this year I was thinking about what changes MU could make.
I like the court better than during Crean's tenure
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/TallTitan34/BasketballCourt.jpg)

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/mix108.com/files/2013/01/bat.jpg)

But I saw Providence playing at home this year and really like their simple design.
I think I will mock something up...
I wish the NCAA hadn't gone to the standardized courts I really liked watching and seeing the host courts during the tourney.
Seeing games at the spectrum or the big lobo on New Mexico's court.

One thing I wish MU would do is simplify the piping around the collar
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/photos/_/id/269/photoId/3643804/marquette-golden-eagles

And standardize the word "Marquette" on all of the jerseys.
Why the blue jersey font is different, I don't understand
http://espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=400504464&photoId=3397543
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2014, 02:03:46 PM

I wish the NCAA hadn't gone to the standardized courts I really liked watching and seeing the host courts during the tourney.
Seeing games at the spectrum or the big lobo on New Mexico's court.

And standardize the word "Marquette" on all of the jerseys.
Why the blue jersey font is different, I don't understand
http://espn.go.com/ncb/photos?gameId=400504464&photoId=3397543


Agree on both of these points.  Never liked the font on the baby blues.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Earl Tatum on April 04, 2014, 02:14:27 PM
Having "Al" on jersey, is Packers fans and announcers referring to Lombardi. Agreed they are the face of the
team. Enough is enough. New era.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: DavidDiggsDawg on April 04, 2014, 02:19:13 PM
Agree on both of these points.  Never liked the font on the baby blues.

I worked at the Spirit Shop when the baby blues first came out, and according to the people that run the spirit shop the baby blues were initially going to have the same script (which is why if you see anyone who bought the baby blue in the first year or two it DOES have the same script as the other jerseys) however the team decided to go with the script they did because it made the jerseys feel "retro". Personally i think its a nice change of pace, even if it makes no sense when the university went through all of that effort to create their "brand" across all sports to make it a uniform logo and wording.

I would love to see the old (60s I think?) blue jersey with the offset circle. It reminds me of the packers throwback jerseys.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Tums Festival on April 04, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
I'd be up for taking "Al" off our jerseys.

NEVER!
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Litehouse on April 04, 2014, 02:32:34 PM
I like the font on the light blues the best.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: wadesworld on April 04, 2014, 02:49:35 PM
I like the font on the light blues the best.

+1.  But even that font isn't great.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 04, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
I like the font on the light blues the best.

That font is the reason I didnt get the baby blue DJO jersey my freshman year.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 04, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
as long as we don't copy Oregon and that vomit floor...
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: chapman on April 04, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
I'm good with our court and AL.  A few tweaks to the unis would be ok though.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Les Nessman on April 04, 2014, 03:24:27 PM
If Marquette wins another National Championship do you think they would keep the "Al" on the jersey? Had he not won an NC, he wouldn't be so revered in the MU community, so once we reach the pinnacle again, don't you think the "Al" will have reached its shelf life?
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 04, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
If Marquette wins another National Championship do you think they would keep the "Al" on the jersey? Had he not won an NC, he wouldn't be so revered in the MU community, so once we reach the pinnacle again, don't you think the "Al" will have reached its shelf life?

If you think the only thing that Al did was win a NC, you must be young.  ;D
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Les Nessman on April 04, 2014, 03:39:56 PM
I would imagine I am younger than you. Please enlighten me on all things Al so I'm informed.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on April 04, 2014, 03:41:02 PM
I think the old court design was hideous. Talk about out dated.

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/65/6545/XKW4100Z/posters/marquette-university-al-mcguire-court.jpg)


I'm not much of a fan of the Gold trim around the side and baseline, but still a major improvement.

(http://netscoutsbasketball.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/marquetteaena.jpg)
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 04, 2014, 03:45:05 PM
I think that improvements could be made to the floor.

Nothing that the previous floor had would be an improvement.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on April 04, 2014, 03:46:12 PM
I think the old court design was hideous. Talk about out dated.

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/65/6545/XKW4100Z/posters/marquette-university-al-mcguire-court.jpg)


I'm not much of a fan of the Gold trim around the side and baseline, but still a major improvement.


(http://netscoutsbasketball.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/marquetteaena.jpg)
My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: mujivitz06 on April 04, 2014, 03:47:53 PM
How about this idea? Entire sidelines/baselines painted like the trim on our jerseys - all the stripes.

I can't believe anyone is suggesting taking Al off the jerseys.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 04, 2014, 03:49:10 PM
I can't believe anyone is suggesting taking Al off the jerseys.

It's been over 10 years since he passed. He has his name on the court. Time to move on.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on April 04, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
I can't believe anyone is suggesting taking Al off the jerseys.

The spelling of "AL" on the front side of the jersey is very unique and cool. The image of Al on the back looks terrible. It is out of context and looks ridiculous. Hey, buddy...are you feeling down, huuhhh? You want a hug?

(http://cdn.nikeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Nike-Hyper-Elite-Marquette-Basketball-Uniform-1.jpg)

Very Mickey Mouse in a very bad way.
(http://www.sadmuffin.net/cherrybam/graphics/graphics-cartoon/mickey-mouse002.gif)

Great photo. Do not ruin it.
(http://www.marquette.edu/mcguire/mcguire.jpg)
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 04, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
I would imagine I am younger than you. Please enlighten me on all things Al so I'm informed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_McGuire

He was a great coach, and a hell of a personality.  One of, if not the best, color guys in College Basketball History.

and he was ours.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: PistolPete on April 04, 2014, 04:03:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_McGuire

He was a great coach, and a hell of a personality.  One of, if not the best, color guys in College Basketball History.

and he was ours.

It's not as though Al would soon be forgotten if his initials were removed from the jersey. Personally, I'm in favor of them, but the design on the back of the jersey is brutal.

Frankly, I think MU's branding as a whole is sub-par. The original golden eagle caricature was rough but acceptable, the chicken is awful, and the 'MU' is okay.

It's a tired argument (and one that I do not wish to reignite) but the Warrior logo takes the cake, and it's not close.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Henry Sugar on April 04, 2014, 04:05:12 PM
More from the MUScoop Wiki

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/al_mcguire
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: wadesworld on April 04, 2014, 04:08:31 PM
How about this idea? Entire sidelines/baselines painted like the trim on our jerseys - all the stripes.

I can't believe anyone is suggesting taking Al off the jerseys.

Cool in theory.  Would like to see it before making that decision.  Also wouldn't mind some changes to the uniforms.  I was a big fan of Deleware's uniforms this year.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on April 04, 2014, 04:42:22 PM
I just wish the sideline went back to saying "We are Marquette" instead of gomarquette.com
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Litehouse on April 04, 2014, 05:28:19 PM
I'm good with our court and AL.  A few tweaks to the unis would be ok though.

I'd like to see them tweak the current unis to have camo side panels instead of the stripes, kind of like the early 80's Doc Rivers era.
http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/detail.php/the_marquette_jersey_project/1983.jpg?id=the_marquette_jersey_project%3Astart
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on April 04, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
I'd like to see them tweak the current unis to have camo side panels instead of the stripes, kind of like the early 80's Doc Rivers era.
http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/detail.php/the_marquette_jersey_project/1983.jpg?id=the_marquette_jersey_project%3Astart


I like the camo trim, except the camo trend is already treading toward expiration. Getting played out right now. This past season would have been perfect.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 04, 2014, 08:35:19 PM
I would imagine I am younger than you. Please enlighten me on all things Al so I'm informed.

Read You Can Call me Al.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: keefe on April 04, 2014, 08:40:12 PM
as long as we don't copy Oregon and that vomit floor...

Frankly, the Oregon program has many fine attributes worth emulation.


(http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-sports-guru/files/2011/06/oregon-cheerleaders-hot.jpg)


(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130117154524-25-cheerleader-savannah-single-image-cut.jpg)


(http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/mash/oregon-cheerleaders-triangle-lake-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Goose on April 04, 2014, 09:03:00 PM
Keefe

That picture of Al captures thirteen years of his greatness. Location where picture was taken only makes it better. That is one every fan regardless of age should understand how that picture represented a generation of program's history likely to never been seen again.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: keefe on April 04, 2014, 09:16:28 PM
Keefe

That picture of Al captures thirteen years of his greatness. Location where picture was taken only makes it better. That is one every fan regardless of age should understand how that picture represented a generation of program's history likely to never been seen again.

Goose

That will never be replicated. Reflecting on Al and how he lived his influence extended far beyond the Marquette community. He helped set the concrete of social progress during a time of tremendous national instability and questioning. Al's actions spoke volumes - he did what was right, not because there was any benefit for him, but, rather, because it was the correct course of action. He will never be forgotten.

By the way, if you pass through Lan Kwai Fong have the ossobuco and some grappas at Va Bene and give my regards to Pino.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Goose on April 04, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
Keefe

No doubt on the social issues of the times. He knew more about people and how to get most out of them than anybody I knew. Street smart Phd and used it everyday. Still remember when the guys were boycotting playing and Al explaining to them how to better get their point across. Would be hard pressed to find player of Al's that did not learn more than they earned playing ball. Many thought of Al as former Packers thougt of Lombardi.

Unfortunately no time in LKF as I am 1500 miles to the north. A grappa or two at Va Bene would be very welcome today though.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Coleman on April 04, 2014, 11:35:48 PM
Frankly, the Oregon program has many fine attributes worth emulation.


(http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-sports-guru/files/2011/06/oregon-cheerleaders-hot.jpg)


(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130117154524-25-cheerleader-savannah-single-image-cut.jpg)


(http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/mash/oregon-cheerleaders-triangle-lake-1.jpg)

Gimme a Marquette broad with a taste for Schlitz and Bratwurst any day of the week. Oregon can keep their beauties, I want em strong and tough and able to stay with me drink for drink.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: wildbill sb on April 05, 2014, 12:00:02 AM
as long as we don't copy Oregon and that vomit floor...


If we're in retro mode, why not the Robert Indiana Mecca bball floor with the Warrior hint?

(To refresh your memory, Google "robert indiana basketball floor")
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: keefe on April 05, 2014, 01:32:13 AM

If we're in retro mode, why not the Robert Indiana Mecca bball floor with the Warrior hint?

(To refresh your memory, Google "robert indiana basketball floor")

I looked over that court but can't figure out the Warrior hint...
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: seakm4 on April 05, 2014, 01:56:50 AM
I don't think a Black jersey would be a bad idea.  Have the tri-colored trim on the outside and Yellow Lettering or something.

I'm from a younger generation and am sure 85% of this board hates the highlighter colors.

How about a blue court, Boise St style?
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 05, 2014, 02:10:46 AM
I like the court, dont see what can really be changed. LOVE, the jerseys as well. Including the piping on the collar. Dont see anything wrong with them and are some of the best jerseys ive ever seen.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: SuddenSam on April 05, 2014, 08:26:04 AM
Go Ducks.  I'd have no prob. bit downsize on center court logo and look at trim options.  Keep the Al.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: The Lens on April 05, 2014, 09:45:58 AM
We should play on Al McGuire Court.  And I'm glad we have a state of the art facility with his name on it.  I just think his name on the front of our jerseys is too much.  I do think the collage on the back is kind of unique and subtle so it's fine with me.

TC got us to the FF
Buzz had us playing on 3 straight Second Weekends
KO re-woke MU Hoops
and even Deane-o won our only Conf Tourney Title

Al is not the only thing we have.  Jeez...we're not Loyola!  #IRELAND

And no one needs to tell me what Al meant to MU.  As 4ever can attest, I know.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Coleman on April 05, 2014, 09:58:20 AM
We should play on Al McGuire Court.  And I'm glad we have a state of the art facility with his name on it.  I just think his name on the front of our jerseys is too much.  I do think the collage on the back is kind of unique and subtle so its fine with.

TC got us to the FF
Buzz had us playing on 3 straight Second Weekends
KO re-woke MU Hoops
and even Deane-o won our only Conf Tourney Title

Al is not the only thing we have.  Jeez...we're not Loyola!  #IRELAND

And no one needs to tell me what Al meant to MU.  As 4ever can attest, I know.

I actually agree
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: WarriorFan on April 05, 2014, 10:48:02 AM
I'd be up for taking "Al" off our jerseys.

No, No, a thousand times no.

Not until we have a greater legend.
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Coleman on April 05, 2014, 10:52:01 AM
No, No, a thousand times no.

Not until we have a greater legend.


"Scoop"
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: keefe on April 05, 2014, 11:35:01 AM

"Scoop"

Frankly, I think that would be appropriate. Seattle has its "12th Man." Marquette has its Legions of Loyalists on Scoop. We have been heard and listened to. Now it's time we be recognized!
Title: Re: Bradley Center Court
Post by: Moe on April 06, 2014, 12:32:10 PM
Goose

That will never be replicated. Reflecting on Al and how he lived his influence extended far beyond the Marquette community. He helped set the concrete of social progress during a time of tremendous national instability and questioning. Al's actions spoke volumes - he did what was right, not because there was any benefit for him, but, rather, because it was the correct course of action. He will never be forgotten.

By the way, if you pass through Lan Kwai Fong have the ossobuco and some grappas at Va Bene and give my regards to Pino.

Isn't that the place that gives you all the grappa soaked grapes you can eat?

To stay on topic, we need new jerseys, something more cutting edge, new material, new look, whatever.