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Poll
Question: If UW wins the NC this year, will Bo be back?
Option 1: Yes votes: 101
Option 2: No votes: 29
Title: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on April 03, 2014, 07:41:02 AM
UW doesn't reload as fast as the Blue Bloods, and this is likely their last serious shot at a national championship for the foreseeable future. Does Bo go out on top?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ecompt on April 03, 2014, 07:43:28 AM
They will still be very good next year, and with a national title Bo will get virtually any player he wants in Wisconsin. He is not going anywhere.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: mugrad2006 on April 03, 2014, 07:45:47 AM
They've got a solid pipeline and will be tough again next year, especially if Dekker and Kaminsky stay. I would bet he stays.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: chapman on April 03, 2014, 07:56:17 AM
What else is he going to do?  Kind of pointless for the undead to retire.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: BallOccasionallyLies on April 03, 2014, 07:56:54 AM
I mean, they only lose Brust next year so they will continue to be strong. Add Nigel Hayes into the starting 5 and that's a solid team. Not sure who they are bringing in recruits wise though. I think Bo is 61 years old right now and comfortable with his legacy at UW. I believe he stays. Is anyone coaching an elite program on the hot seat/retiring?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Litehouse on April 03, 2014, 08:06:43 AM
He's 66.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 03, 2014, 08:13:42 AM
Lifer
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 03, 2014, 08:22:21 AM
Quote from: Litehouse on April 03, 2014, 08:06:43 AM
He's 66.

Really? He looks terrible.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: The Lens on April 03, 2014, 08:24:43 AM
Quote from: Ganzer's Source on April 03, 2014, 07:41:02 AM
UW doesn't reload as fast as the Blue Bloods, and this is likely their last serious shot at a national championship for the foreseeable future. Does Bo go out on top?

The guy has been to 13 straight NCAAs and we're wondering how fast he'll re-load?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 03, 2014, 08:25:57 AM
Quote from: Ganzer's Source on April 03, 2014, 07:41:02 AM
UW doesn't reload as fast as the Blue Bloods, and this is likely their last serious shot at a national championship for the foreseeable future. Does Bo go out on top?

They lose Ben Brust.  Thats it.

If they win the NC, they are preseason top 5 team, likely number 1... Plus the B1G should be down(ish) next year.

This assumes that Kaminsky and Dekker don't declare for the draft (They shouldn't).

IMO, Bo retires if those two declare for the draft and they win the NC.  If they don't declare, Bo tries for the NC next year.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Litehouse on April 03, 2014, 08:38:50 AM
I don't see Bo retiring any time soon as long as he has solid assistants, since they do most of the grunt work.  If Gard and some of his other assistants would leave, and Bo had to start from scratch with his staff, he might not be interested in doing a lot of that grunt work anymore.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Mu2323 on April 03, 2014, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 03, 2014, 08:25:57 AM
They lose Ben Brust.  Thats it.

If they win the NC, they are preseason top 5 team, likely number 1... Plus the B1G should be down(ish) next year.

This assumes that Kaminsky and Dekker don't declare for the draft (They shouldn't).
IMO, Bo retires if those two declare for the draft and they win the NC.  If they don't declare, Bo tries for the NC next year.

They wont... They arent named Vander Blue
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 03, 2014, 08:56:57 AM
Quote from: Mu2323 on April 03, 2014, 08:50:39 AM
They wont... They arent named Vander Blue

Eh, Dekker is projected first rounder, and Kaminsky's stock is extremely high, and he might consider selling.

Nothing is guaranteed.  Millions of dollars dangled in front of me at 20 years old and I would have probably thought long and hard about it.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Texas Western on April 03, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
They won't even come close to the national title. They will lose by 20 in their first game. Not enough athletes to compete.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: MDMU04 on April 03, 2014, 09:43:20 AM
Brent to UW
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:43:57 AM
They are loaded for next year.  He is coming back regardless
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 03, 2014, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on April 03, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
They won't even come close to the national title. They will lose by 20 in their first game. Not enough athletes to compete.

I guess that you're saying that they're no Texas Western, hey?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on April 03, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
They won't even come close to the national title. They will lose by 20 in their first game. Not enough athletes to compete.

They rarely get blown out and Kentucky's youth will make them struggle against UW in my opinion.  Anyone's game.

Good news for Bo, he doesn't have to worry about doubling Estill.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on April 03, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
They rarely get blown out and Kentucky's youth will make them struggle against UW in my opinion.  Anyone's game.

Good news for Bo, he doesn't have to worry about doubling Estill.

I think there are a few match-ups down low that might require a double by UW.  Especially when Dekker is playing the 4.  Question is, did Bo learn his lesson from last time?  This could be very similar.  I think you are right tho.  Close game...
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 03, 2014, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on April 03, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
They won't even come close to the national title. They will lose by 20 in their first game. Not enough athletes to compete.

Have some cash to back that up?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 03, 2014, 09:53:36 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on April 03, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
They won't even come close to the national title. They will lose by 20 in their first game. Not enough athletes to compete.

They may lose but that Arizona team they beat had some pretty good athletes.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: CoachesCorner on April 03, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
I think there are a few match-ups down low that might require a double by UW.  Especially when Dekker is playing the 4.  Question is, did Bo learn his lesson from last time?  This could be very similar.  I think you are right tho.  Close game...

He refuses to double team, its not in his dna
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: mugrad2006 on April 03, 2014, 09:59:12 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
They rarely get blown out and Kentucky's youth will make them struggle against UW in my opinion.  Anyone's game.

Good news for Bo, he doesn't have to worry about doubling Estill.

Continuing the analogy to 2003 KY lost a key player to ankle injury.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 10:02:40 AM
Quote from: mugrad2006 on April 03, 2014, 09:59:12 AM
Continuing the analogy to 2003 KY lost a key player to ankle injury.

Yup, and the ONLY guy that could beat the Badgers he let beat them by refusing to double him up.   It was fun to watch.

Strange, he's a terrific coach but what mindblowing stupidity in that game.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: klyrish on April 03, 2014, 01:25:01 PM
Why is this the conversation? Let's just hope that they lose horribly on Saturday and it's so embarrassing they lose all their recruits for the next 2-5 years.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 03, 2014, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 03, 2014, 09:46:55 AM
I guess that you're saying that they're no Texas Western, hey?

Theyre the exact opposite of Texas Western.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on April 03, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
what about Frank Kaminsky?  If he has 2 more really good games.  Does he go?  One can only hope  ;D
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 03, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Quote from: CoachesCorner on April 03, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
what about Frank Kaminsky?  If he has 2 more really good games.  Does he go?  One can only hope  ;D

Why would Dekker or Kaminsky go into one of the deepest NBA drafts, in recent memory?  They are better served to stay another year to increase their draft stock.  Both of those players are 2nd rounders, most likely, with the ability to crack the 1st round next year. 
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on April 03, 2014, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 03, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Why would Dekker or Kaminsky go into one of the deepest NBA drafts, in recent memory?  They are better served to stay another year to increase their draft stock.  Both of those players are 2nd rounders, most likely, with the ability to crack the 1st round next year. 
Dominic James would like to discuss this with you.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on April 03, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:43:57 AM
They are loaded for next year.  He is coming back regardless

Sounds like the way we were describing this year's MU team last year, and look what happened.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: brandx on April 03, 2014, 04:36:27 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
He refuses to double team, its not in his dna

Yeah, but we were great at it   :P   Make the other team shoot open threes all day.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 03, 2014, 04:39:57 PM
I'd like to think he may go out on a high note, but definitely ain't no AL since he didn't declare his retirement before the Tourney started.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
Quote from: Otule's Glass Eye on April 03, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Sounds like the way we were describing this year's MU team last year, and look what happened.

They don't have Sybil as their head coach.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on April 04, 2014, 08:16:44 AM
If Bo Ryan leaves, should he be sent to prison?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2014, 10:14:44 AM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on April 04, 2014, 08:16:44 AM
If Bo Ryan leaves, should he be sent to prison?

They will name a prison after him, and 100 other state buildings
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: NersEllenson on April 04, 2014, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 03, 2014, 08:56:57 AM
Eh, Dekker is projected first rounder, and Kaminsky's stock is extremely high, and he might consider selling.

Nothing is guaranteed.  Millions of dollars dangled in front of me at 20 years old and I would have probably thought long and hard about it.

I don't get all the Dekker love from scouts....I don't see one thing he does at an elite level right now?  He's a good athlete - certainly not elite level - his perimeter shooting is solid, not spectacular.  Feel he regressed a little this year.

Kaminsky on the other hand - He plays out of his mind Saturday and they make Championship game and does the same...he may give it serious thought....could potentially play himself into lottery consideration.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
Quote from: Ners on April 04, 2014, 10:19:27 AM
I don't get all the Dekker love from scouts....I don't see one thing he does at an elite level right now?  He's a good athlete - certainly not elite level - his perimeter shooting is solid, not spectacular.  Feel he regressed a little this year.

Kaminsky on the other hand - He plays out of his mind Saturday and they make Championship game and does the same...he may give it serious thought....could potentially play himself into lottery consideration.

This is bordering on Mitch McGary talk from last year.

Kaminsky is not a lottery pick....no way, no how, not this year.  He's not even a mock draft lottery pick NEXT year right now.  He's a late first round pick at this point.


Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: rjay.stephen on April 04, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
Lol at the thought of Bo leaving after this year. Dekker has already said he is staying next year (he'd be stupid to declare). Big Frank isn't a solid NBA player until he puts on 20 pounds of muscle, which he could do this offseason. Highly doubt he leaves. Wisconsin will, in all likelihood, be even better next year, and there's no way Bo passes up the opportunity to go to back to back Final Fours.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: rjay.stephen on April 04, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
Lol at the thought of Bo leaving after this year. Dekker has already said he is staying next year (he'd be stupid to declare). Big Frank isn't a solid NBA player until he puts on 20 pounds of muscle, which he could do this offseason. Highly doubt he leaves. Wisconsin will, in all likelihood, be even better next year, and there's no way Bo passes up the opportunity to go to back to back Final Fours.

I think they beat Kentucky and come up just short in the title game.  They come back next year hoping to win it all, on a mission, etc, are top 10 most of the year, and get upset in the Sweet 16 by a coach they all despise.  It would be rather humorous.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: muwarrior97 on April 04, 2014, 11:24:11 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on April 03, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
They won't even come close to the national title. They will lose by 20 in their first game. Not enough athletes to compete.
Yeah, Baylor squad agrees.....NOT

Have you actually watched them play?  Take the golden glasses off, the Badgers are very good
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on April 04, 2014, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: rjay.stephen on April 04, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
Lol at the thought of Bo leaving after this year. Dekker has already said he is staying next year (he'd be stupid to declare). Big Frank isn't a solid NBA player until he puts on 20 pounds of muscle, which he could do this offseason. Highly doubt he leaves. Wisconsin will, in all likelihood, be even better next year, and there's no way Bo passes up the opportunity to go to back to back Final Fours.

Not saying Big Frank goes to the NBA this year.  But NBA teams draft players based on potential.  Do they think they can put 20lbs on big Frank and will that make the difference in their eyes.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: MUSF on April 04, 2014, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 03, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Why would Dekker or Kaminsky go into one of the deepest NBA drafts, in recent memory?  They are better served to stay another year to increase their draft stock.  Both of those players are 2nd rounders, most likely, with the ability to crack the 1st round next year. 

Dekker could certainly benefit from another year in college, but if Kaminsky has another good game his stock likely won't get any higher, regardless of the strength of the draft. I don't think he will declare, but I think it wouldn't be a bad decision if he did.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: MUSF on April 04, 2014, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Ners on April 04, 2014, 10:19:27 AM
I don't get all the Dekker love from scouts....I don't see one thing he does at an elite level right now?  He's a good athlete - certainly not elite level - his perimeter shooting is solid, not spectacular.  Feel he regressed a little this year.

Kaminsky on the other hand - He plays out of his mind Saturday and they make Championship game and does the same...he may give it serious thought....could potentially play himself into lottery consideration.

I agree completely agree on Kaminsky. I think you're shortchanging Dekker though, at least from a pro prospect perspective.

You may be correct that Dekker doesn't do anything at an elite level right not, though I do think Dekker is closer to elite athlete level than you think he is. Either way, how he has performed this season has less impact on his future pro prospects than his potential, which is through the roof IMO. He could be come a very good all around player and a matchup problem in the NBA with some improved shooting and defense.

Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 04, 2014, 01:57:53 PM
Quote from: MUSF on April 04, 2014, 01:05:18 PM
I agree completely agree on Kaminsky. I think you're shortchanging Dekker though, at least from a pro prospect perspective.

You may be correct that Dekker doesn't do anything at an elite level right not, though I do think Dekker is closer to elite athlete level than you think he is. Either way, how he has performed this season has less impact on his future pro prospects than his potential, which is through the roof IMO. He could be come a very good all around player and a matchup problem in the NBA with some improved shooting and defense.



+1
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Earl Tatum on April 04, 2014, 02:12:06 PM
Dekker will have to work on his shot. He really sucked on it this year. Also Defense.
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 05, 2014, 09:50:14 PM
Bo has a real shot at Stone. Why would he want out?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: MUeng on April 05, 2014, 10:05:46 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 05, 2014, 09:50:14 PM
Bo has a real shot at Stone. Why would he want out?
if he does land him, hope he stays and stone turns into butch 2.0
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 05, 2014, 10:10:32 PM
Why so venomous? Why can't we see the good in others's accomplishments?
Title: Re: If UW wins the NC, does Bo Ryan stay?
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on April 05, 2014, 11:40:15 PM
Guess we'll never know.
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