Just saw this on Twitter via PT (aka FloorSlaps)...
Jajuan Johnson will talk with his mom this week and coach Wojo before making a decision. Duane Wilson, OTOH, says he's here to stay.
Let the recruting begin. As others have said, how he does with current and incoming players will go a long ways towards what type of early impression he makes.
My gut feeling, which is worth nothing, says he stays.
I don't like the sound of that, but who knows, maybe Wojo can win him over
Just a guess, but I think we keep one of JJJ or Hill. If one of them backs out, there's a ton of playing time for the other.
Maybe Wojo doesn't want him. Remember, Buzz didn't want some guys. Depends what type of offense he runs, etc. I suspect he wants him, I also suspect Wojo doesn't want them all
For all we know JJJ just wants to make sure hes not the same as Buzz. You can look at it both ways.
Just a guess, but I suspect JJJ would have been having the same conversation with his mother had Buzz stayed.
And then there's this:
@AndrewGruman: Marquette guard Jajuan Johnson says he's "most likely" staying at the school.
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 01, 2014, 02:56:33 PM
Just saw this on Twitter via PT (aka FloorSlaps)...
Jajuan Johnson will talk with his mom this week and coach Wojo before making a decision. Duane Wilson, OTOH, says he's here to stay.
Rob Jackson runs my son's AAU team and Marcus Jackson coaches it. I was at their practice last night and there were only a few other parents in the gym, plus Duane Wilson and Deonte Burton getting ready to workout after. Both told me that they are here to stay and that they thought JJJ was as well but he would have to see about the new coach.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 01, 2014, 03:04:03 PM
Rob Jackson runs my son's AAU team and Marcus Jackson coaches it. I was at their practice last night and there were only a few other parents in the gym, plus Duane Wilson and Deonte Burton getting ready to workout after. Both told me that they are here to stay and that they thought JJJ was as well but he would have to see about the new coach.
This is all very good news
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
Just a guess, but I suspect JJJ would have been having the same conversation with his mother had Buzz stayed.
And then there's this:
@AndrewGruman: Marquette guard Jajuan Johnson says he's "most likely" staying at the school.
Great point. Maybe he was set on transferring while Buzz was here. Now that Buzz left, maybe JJJ wants to talk to his mom about changing his mind, that is, maybe he should stay.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
Just a guess, but I suspect JJJ would have been having the same conversation with his mother had Buzz stayed.
And then there's this:
@AndrewGruman: Marquette guard Jajuan Johnson says he's "most likely" staying at the school.
This, since his pt was non existent. I believe Hill will stay committed also and he is the real deal.
What I have been hearing (source is NOT scoop) is that JJJ was transferring at the end of the season. It was part of the reason he get benched towards the end of the season.
I have been told that with Buzz gone, we actually have a very good chance to retain JJJ.
We want JJJ to stay and start
If Wojo's "turning offense to defense" philosophy from the presser holds true, JJJ will fit very nicely and likely see a large spike in playing time this year (from zero to xxx).
So far over the years I really havn't truly been disappointed at a transfer(obviously Id prefer they didn't happen but none were anything to fret over).
I like everyone believe losing Hill would be terrible
But at the same time I still really think JJJ would be a big loss too. I think he just needs some damn PT.
This is the biggest reason why I thought Buzz was a fool. We were losing with Jake and Derrick regardless. Why not give the younger guys minutes...1. develop them 2. keep them happy O and 3. they are simply better.
Good riddance.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2014, 03:12:11 PM
What I have been hearing (source is NOT scoop) is that JJJ was transferring at the end of the season. It was part of the reason he get benched towards the end of the season.
I have been told that with Buzz gone, we actually have a very good chance to retain JJJ.
That is great news!! He's going to be a stud!
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2014, 03:12:11 PM
What I have been hearing (source is NOT scoop) is that JJJ was transferring at the end of the season. It was part of the reason he get benched towards the end of the season.
I have been told that with Buzz gone, we actually have a very good chance to retain JJJ.
So the whispers about JJJ's grades were inaccurate? If the rumors were false Buzz deserved even more criticism for not playing him. Hopefully WOJ can convince JJJ to stay his upside his tremendous.
It's easier to stay when you have one year under your belt and you start/build relationships with teammates. For the incoming class, your decision has to be largely based on the coach that recruited you, though I suppose you can connect with some guys on the team during your visit, and hell, the facilities and string of MU success are not too shabby either.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 01, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
If Wojo's "turning offense to defense" philosophy from the presser holds true, JJJ will fit very nicely and likely see a large spike in playing time this year (from zero to xxx).
Didnt he say turning defense into offense?
Quote from: BenCat12 on April 01, 2014, 03:15:56 PM
So the whispers about JJJ's grades were inaccurate? If the rumors were false Buzz deserved even more criticism for not playing him. Hopefully WOJ can convince JJJ to stay his upside his tremendous.
I don't know about the grades, I didn't ask. My guess is that it is hogwash.
It would be funny if the one year we don't have any transfers is the year Brett leaves.
Brent is the only transfer this year.
that would be freaking awesome
Quote from: Litehouse on April 01, 2014, 03:19:11 PM
It would be funny if the one year we don't have any transfers is the year Brett leaves.
and would love for Wojo to make the dance with "Buzz's team" that did not make the dance...
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 03:29:38 PM
and would love for Wojo to make the dance with "Buzz's team" that did not make the dance...
While starting Duane/Dawon, JJJ, Mayo and Burton ;)
Quote from: BenCat12 on April 01, 2014, 03:15:56 PM
So the whispers about JJJ's grades were inaccurate? If the rumors were false Buzz deserved even more criticism for not playing him. Hopefully WOJ can convince JJJ to stay his upside his tremendous.
Duh. We all knew this
I expect that we will hear something like this from most underclassmen and recruits.
Is it safe for Newbill to come back?
Quote from: Fullodds on April 01, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
Is it safe for Newbill to come back?
Well at the very least, it is safe for MU to go back to Philly
Quote from: THRILLHO on April 01, 2014, 03:18:06 PM
Didnt he say turning defense into offense?
haha yes, my bad
I just want to keep 2 out of 3 of Mayo, JJJ and Hill. Not sure how I would prioritize them.
Quote from: frozena pizza on April 01, 2014, 03:55:39 PM
I just want to keep 2 out of 3 of Mayo, JJJ and Hill. Not sure how I would prioritize them.
Agreed, but I'd go Hill, JJJ, Mayo
Quote from: Eldon on April 01, 2014, 03:05:31 PM
Great point. Maybe he was set on transferring while Buzz was here. Now that Buzz left, maybe JJJ wants to talk to his mom about changing his mind, that is, maybe he should stay.
Im pretty sure, He'll be back.....
If Buzz stayed he was gone.....
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2014, 03:12:11 PM
What I have been hearing (source is NOT scoop) is that JJJ was transferring at the end of the season. It was part of the reason he get benched towards the end of the season.
I have been told that with Buzz gone, we actually have a very good chance to retain JJJ.
Where are all the Buzz slurpers now to comment?
Quote from: willie warrior on April 01, 2014, 04:24:55 PM
Where are all the Buzz slurpers now to comment?
Hi Willie!
I didn't say it was a bad thing that Buzz ran things that way. The coach is the boss. If you want playing time, you follow the boss' orders. That's the way Buzz saw things.
I don't agree with that style. But it is Buzz's style. He can't go back on it...he'd lose all credibility with his players
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2014, 05:41:39 PM
Hi Willie!
I didn't say it was a bad thing that Buzz ran things that way. The coach is the boss. If you want playing time, you follow the boss' orders. That's the way Buzz saw things.
I don't agree with that style. But it is Buzz's style. He can't go back on it...he'd lose all credibility with his players
Man, you are clueless. He did lose it--as attested to by their performance. Talk to some people closer to the Program than yourself.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 01, 2014, 06:00:47 PM
Man, you are clueless. He did lose it--as attested to by their performance. Talk to some people closer to the Program than yourself.
He doubled down and failed. It happens. Move on.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2014, 06:19:34 PM
He doubled down and failed. It happens. Move on.
I am not sure what doubling down means, but if it means he went all in on Derrick and Jake, then that was proven to be a losing strategy . He almost ran the program into the ditch with it and the senseless benching of Steven Taylor JR and JJJ. Hopefully we get JJJ to stay
Quote from: Fullodds on April 01, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
Is it safe for Newbill to come back?
My fearless prediction. Newbill commits to MU, then in late May J.P. Tokoto announces that he is transferring to be closer to home. Then an assistant coach calls up Newbill to see if he's filled out his transfer application, yet...
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 01, 2014, 06:19:34 PM
He doubled down and failed. It happens. Move on.
Still defending your boy! Move on.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 01, 2014, 07:26:37 PM
My fearless prediction. Newbill commits to MU, then in late May J.P. Tokoto announces that he is transferring to be closer to home. Then an assistant coach calls up Newbill to see if he's filled out his transfer application, yet...
"I'm sorry D.J., your signature is not notarized."
Quote from: willie warrior on April 01, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
Still defending your boy! Move on.
Na, he's right. Buzz had two roads: Either go full on mea culpa, or double down on his strategy. He doubled down and lost big time.
Some people just don't have the vitriol for Buzz that you do :)
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 01, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
Na, he's right. Buzz had two roads: Either go full on mea culpa, or double down on his strategy. He doubled down and lost big time.
Some people just don't have the vitriol for Buzz that you do :)
You call it vitriol, I call it calling out a phony. Look at how it affected the season, some of the kids and the program. It is inexcusable what he did, and you shrug it off. That's fine for you. But to say it is vitriol is ridiculous. Grow up and look at what happened.
It seems like every player has spoken, and said they are staying, except JJJ. Has he said anything publicly?
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 01, 2014, 10:18:38 PM
It seems like every player has spoken, and said they are staying, except JJJ. Has he said anything publicly?
That he will talk it over with his mother. He also said that he would probably stay.
Hey, let's just respect JJJ's process here.
Seriously.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 01, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
Still defending your boy! Move on.
You'll notice the only time I have "defended my boy" is when you make comments to the effect of "where are all the slurpers now?"
I think JJJ definitely has a future in Wojo's offense/defense.
He can quickly convert a TO into an offense opportunity.
He can be MU's Andre Dawkins.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 01, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
You call it vitriol, I call it calling out a phony. Look at how it affected the season, some of the kids and the program. It is inexcusable what he did, and you shrug it off. That's fine for you. But to say it is vitriol is ridiculous. Grow up and look at what happened.
Grown ups forgive and forget... children hold grudges forever and can't grasp when people choose to let things go. Which one do you think you're acting like right now?
Quote from: BenCat12 on April 01, 2014, 03:15:56 PM
So the whispers about JJJ's grades were inaccurate? If the rumors were false Buzz deserved even more criticism for not playing him. Hopefully WOJ can convince JJJ to stay his upside his tremendous.
In Hunt's article, he states "Johnson said he needed to speak to his mother
and make sure his grades were in order before deciding whether to return."
So apparently the grades comments were completely untrue.. Or Hunt is just completely off base.. Link below
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/marquette-players-excited-for-wojo-b99238359z1-253486761.html
Quote from: PunchingPiper on April 02, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
Grown ups forgive and forget... children hold grudges forever and can't grasp when people choose to let things go. Which one do you think you're acting like right now?
Sorry Pal, your carte blanke statement that grown ups forgive and forget reeks of condescension. BTW, have you forgotten your remarks to Melissa? They were real mature.
And I will not forget the phony BS manure that Buzz spread. I am glad however that you have.
Quote from: PunchingPiper on April 02, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
Grown ups forgive and forget... children hold grudges forever and can't grasp when people choose to let things go. Which one do you think you're acting like right now?
I didn't follow the whole thread, but this quote made me chuckle. It is essentially the opposite of what I witness in the world. Children are resilient and remarkably adjustable. So called "grown ups" are experts at holding grudges.
Per Mike Hunt, JJJ apparently said said he needed to speak to his mother and make sure his grades were in order before deciding whether to return.
Quote from: Done Deal on April 02, 2014, 01:55:55 PM
Per Mike Hunt, JJJ apparently said said he needed to speak to his mother and make sure his grades were in order before deciding whether to return.
Sounds like he's gone to me. If your grades aren't in order you can always take summer school courses to beef up your GPA or retake classes.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 01:58:23 PM
Sounds like he's gone to me. If your grades aren't in order you can always take summer school courses to beef up your GPA or retake classes.
I didn't take it that way. I'm thinking he had a very disappointing experience this past year and was considering heading for the door if Curly was still coach, so the talk was likely to happen anyway.
With a new coach, it's still a talk he needs to have but, in my opinion, if he likes the new coach he might be more likely to stay at MU. And he's got plenty of time to gets things squared away for summer school - it's only April - if he decides to stay.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 01:58:23 PM
Sounds like he's gone to me. If your grades aren't in order you can always take summer school courses to beef up your GPA or retake classes.
Dont know how you get that hes gone from his GPA...
It's a MUScopers prerogative to jump to unfounded conclusions...
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on April 02, 2014, 02:07:25 PM
Dont know how you get that hes gone from his GPA...
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 02, 2014, 02:08:37 PM
It's a MUScopers prerogative to jump to unfounded conclusions...
He said he had to make sure his grades were in order. That can only mean he's having difficulty with classes and that there must be some issue with his gpa. For example, last semester he may have gotten below a 2.0. If he gets below that, this semester, he's violated academic probation and could be ineligible to play.
What else would "make sure grades are in order" mean?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 02:24:21 PM
He said he had to make sure his grades were in order. That can only mean he's having difficulty with classes and that there must be some issue with his gpa. For example, last semester he may have gotten below a 2.0. If he gets below that, this semester, he's violated academic probation and could be ineligible to play.
What else would "make sure grades are in order" mean?
Yet he did play this semester so he wasnt ineligible. He could be having a hard time but that doesnt mean hes ineligible. They have tutors for days in the AL. He will be in good hands for the rest of the semester.
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on April 02, 2014, 02:26:03 PM
Yet he did play this semester so he wasnt ineligible. He could be having a hard time but that doesnt mean hes ineligible. They have tutors for days in the AL. He will be in good hands for the rest of the semester.
I'm not saying he's ineligible right now. In order to be ineligible, you have to have 2 consecutive semesters of below 2.0 gpa (usually...depends on the school but this quite typical). What I'm saying is that last semester, he could have gotten below a 2.0. If he gets below a 2.0 again (this semester).... then he's in trouble. It might be a credit issue as well. Sometimes athletes only take 12 credits a semester during the school year to lessen the workload during athletics. 15 is a normal load, so they usually make up the 6 credits during summer. There comes a point, where if you don't have enough credits to be a sophomore, and you're in your 2nd year at the school, you can be put on probation as well if you are involved in athletics.
I used to have roommates that played collegiate football and wrestling so I got to see first hand how academics were juggled. Typically, if there are issues with grades, then it is GPA. Total # of credits related to class standing is much less common of an infraction.
Nonetheless, this was a different school than MU, so the rules might change a bit there, but they're usually within the same ballpark.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 02:24:21 PM
He said he had to make sure his grades were in order. That can only mean he's having difficulty with classes and that there must be some issue with his gpa. For example, last semester he may have gotten below a 2.0. If he gets below that, this semester, he's violated academic probation and could be ineligible to play.
What else would "make sure grades are in order" mean?
Or it could be a 19 year old kid speaking off the top of his head and everyone here is way over analyzing this.
and to be honest, M Hunt didn't put his words in quotes but only paraphrased them (is that the right term?), that's why I just copied/pasted from his article
Quote from: willie warrior on April 02, 2014, 06:51:04 AM
Sorry Pal, your carte blanke statement that grown ups forgive and forget reeks of condescension. BTW, have you forgotten your remarks to Melissa? They were real mature.
And I will not forget the phony BS manure that Buzz spread. I am glad however that you have.
What remaks to Melissa? You mean being the first guy to call out stonecold for his calling her the C-word? You're right I must be terrible! Don't try to lump me in with that awful person for your own twisted sense of righteousness
And I will back up my old RA any day for his beliefs in this Buzz Williams matter. You on the other hand won't let it go and accept that others have a belief different than yours.
I think JJJ has a big upside, I hope Wojo can keep him.
Quote from: DUNKS45 on April 02, 2014, 04:59:40 PM
I think JJJ has a big upside, I hope Wojo can keep him.
I do too. It is simply mind boggling how Bert managed the team last year. That guy needs help.
Just tweeted "I'm all in."
Hopefully that is in regards to MU.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 02:39:42 PM
I'm not saying he's ineligible right now. In order to be ineligible, you have to have 2 consecutive semesters of below 2.0 gpa (usually...depends on the school but this quite typical). What I'm saying is that last semester, he could have gotten below a 2.0. If he gets below a 2.0 again (this semester).... then he's in trouble. It might be a credit issue as well. Sometimes athletes only take 12 credits a semester during the school year to lessen the workload during athletics. 15 is a normal load, so they usually make up the 6 credits during summer. There comes a point, where if you don't have enough credits to be a sophomore, and you're in your 2nd year at the school, you can be put on probation as well if you are involved in athletics.
I used to have roommates that played collegiate football and wrestling so I got to see first hand how academics were juggled. Typically, if there are issues with grades, then it is GPA. Total # of credits related to class standing is much less common of an infraction.
Nonetheless, this was a different school than MU, so the rules might change a bit there, but they're usually within the same ballpark.
So how does grades = he is gone. If he were to become ineligible when he transfers then he would have to sit and have to get his grades up. he can also not use any exception to play right away.
Quote from: keefe on April 02, 2014, 05:08:58 PM
I do too. It is simply mind boggling how Bert managed the team last year. That guy needs help.
You are using the phrase, "managed the team' liberally in Brent/Bert/Britt/Buzzard's case last year.
Quote from: PunchingPiper on April 02, 2014, 04:30:05 PM
What remaks to Melissa? You mean being the first guy to call out stonecold for his calling her the C-word? You're right I must be terrible! Don't try to lump me in with that awful person for your own twisted sense of righteousness
And I will back up my old RA any day for his beliefs in this Buzz Williams matter. You on the other hand won't let it go and accept that others have a belief different than yours.
Respect JP. OD1SE!!!
Quote from: Sharpie on April 02, 2014, 06:18:33 PM
Just tweeted "I'm all in."
Hopefully that is in regards to MU.
"@chosenJAUN: I'm all in"
I'd take it that way. Unless he is playing poker and live blogging the game via Twitter.
Quote from: keefe on April 02, 2014, 05:08:58 PM
I do too. It is simply mind boggling how Bert managed the team last year. That guy needs help.
(形) 正しい; 礼儀にかなった
(動) 正す; 校正する; 訂正する; 矯正する; 叱る
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
(形) 正しい; 礼儀にかなった
(動) 正す; 校正する; 訂正する; 矯正する; 叱る
You can go to prison for writing things like that...... Just like Buzz, Mike Hunt, and Thunder.
Keefe knows some Japanese, as do I....just having a little fun.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 12:22:34 AM
Keefe knows some Japanese, as do I....just having a little fun.
Carry on. I'm just the acting Moderator this evening.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 03, 2014, 12:37:43 AM
Carry on. I'm just the acting Moderator this evening.
Are you moderating Cracked Sidewalks tonight as well?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 12:53:48 AM
Are you moderating Cracked Sidewalks tonight as well?
Not yet. I'm more or less like a mall cop. I have a badge, but little power. Nonetheless, I shall peek into every nook and cranny, exposing evil ---- wherever it may lie.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
(形) 正しい; 礼儀にかなった
(動) 正す; 校正する; 訂正する; 矯正する; 叱る
Kare ga warukatta
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 11:47:15 PM
You can go to prison for writing things like that...... Just like Buzz, Mike Hunt, and Thunder.
Ha!! Nicely done.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
(形) 正しい; 礼儀にかなった
(動) 正す; 校正する; 訂正する; 矯正する; 叱る
I thought it was an add for Ugg boots or Louis Vitton bags.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 03, 2014, 06:59:53 AM
I thought it was an add for Ugg boots or Louis Vitton bags.
those were Buzz spamming Scoop so we probably won't see those now
彼は、道化師です
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
(形) 正しい; 礼儀にかなった
(動) 正す; 校正する; 訂正する; 矯正する; 叱る
Hey Chicos, no Japanese, "Your momma's so fat....", jokes on Scoop.