We're fucked. We're a joke. Long time poster. Boom.
I'm assuming your source is yourself.
Yes and 50 beers.
We can do better than Martin. If our salvation was hiring a guy with 1 NCAA bid in 6 years, then him pulling out didn't make us a joke. It was already there.
Personally, I choose to believe we can do better. Someone might have to gulp hard for a few guys, but there are some extremely good coaches out there if MU is will to step up.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 12:21:03 AM
We can do better than Martin. If our salvation was hiring a guy with 1 NCAA bid in 6 years, then him pulling out didn't make us a joke. It was already there.
Personally, I choose to believe we can do better. Someone might have to gulp hard for a few guys, but there are some extremely good coaches out there if MU is will to step up.
And who might they be?
I have no idea what you're talking about. But I love your energy.
High five. Up top. Boom.
Quote from: denverMU on April 01, 2014, 12:24:49 AM
And who might they be?
I believe they have been mentioned here for the last 10 days. For some reason, MU doesn't want to engage with some of them it seems, or maybe that isn't the case.
If MU's best bet is to go after a guy with 1 bid in 6 years, we have bigger issues. We can do better.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 12:27:33 AM
I believe they have been mentioned here for the last 10 days. For some reason, MU doesn't want to engage with some of them it seems, or maybe that isn't the case.
If MU's best bet is to go after a guy with 1 bid in 6 years, we have bigger issues. We can do better.
I'm not sure of your definition of better is, but it seems current MU administration thinks it's defined as WOJO!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 12:27:33 AM
I believe they have been mentioned here for the last 10 days. For some reason, MU doesn't want to engage with some of them it seems, or maybe that isn't the case.
If MU's best bet is to go after a guy with 1 bid in 6 years, we have bigger issues. We can do better.
.... but Chico, he was top 20 in offense and defense on KenPOM this year !!!
Boom.
Boom.
Boom.
This crap bores me. I like boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. OP is onto something.
Quote from: denverMU on April 01, 2014, 12:29:49 AM
I'm not sure of your definition of better is, but it seems current MU administration thinks it's defined as WOJO!
Perhaps. It would fit the Cords mold. I was really hoping we could finally get away from another assistant coach hiring, but he would make somewhat of a splash because of the name. For those expecting him to be here long, obviously that won't happen.
Still holding out hope that MU, for once, can get a very good coach from another program to come over. Martin didn't fit that bill in my opinion. A Smart, Marshall, Howland (there are issues there), etc would fit that bill.
As the world turns.....
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 01, 2014, 12:29:56 AM
.... but Chico, he was top 20 in offense and defense on KenPOM this year !!!
Keep pretending that stat is meaningless... it's not.
It doesn't matter at this point though. I hope MU gets the best coach possible. Evidently, Martin was not that guy or I'm sure they would have gotten a deal done.
Boom.
Boom.
Boom.
This crap bores me. I like boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.
OP is onto something.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 12:32:50 AM
Perhaps. It would fit the Cords mold. I was really hoping we could finally get away from another assistant coach hiring, but he would make somewhat of a splash because of the name. For those expecting him to be here long, obviously that won't happen.
Still holding out hope that MU, for once, can get a very good coach from another program to come over. Martin didn't fit that bill in my opinion. A Smart, Marshall, Howland (there are issues there), etc would fit that bill.
As the world turns.....
I prefer your choices but it seems MU likes Wojo and I agree he will not be here long.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 12:27:33 AM
I believe they have been mentioned here for the last 10 days. For some reason, MU doesn't want to engage with some of them it seems, or maybe that isn't the case.
If MU's best bet is to go after a guy with 1 bid in 6 years, we have bigger issues. We can do better.
When is the last time we hired a coach, currently employed as a HEAD COACH, at a BCS school, that is coming off of a 2 point loss in the Sweet 16, that has his team ranked in the top 20 in Offensive and Defensive efficiency, who in his 6 years as a head coach at 2 different schools....has improved the team's record year over year, 6 years in a row??
Why is Howland out of work? Why hasn't he been hired elsewhere yet? Who else do/did you want us to get? We went hard after Shaka Smart. Don't think Izzo is going to leave MSU for Marquette, or Coach K, or Pitino, or Calipari...
Quote from: denverMU on April 01, 2014, 12:36:30 AM
I prefer your choices but it seems MU likes Wojo and I agree he will not be here long.
More than a hunch?
Quote from: MUSF on April 01, 2014, 12:34:04 AM
Keep pretending that stat is meaningless... it's not.
It doesn't matter at this point though. I hope MU gets the best coach possible. Evidently, Martin was not that guy or I'm sure they would have gotten a deal done.
I'm just giving you a hard time MUSF. I hope they get the best candidate as well as that benefits us all the most. We all truly want MU to succeed and win a national title just as Cords thinks. I don't think Cuonzo was national title material. That man who is capable of such feats, is out there, and Cords is doing his best to find him. We'll get him...... Respect the Process.
I almost hate to bring it up... but where do you go if Cal hires Wojo?
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 01, 2014, 12:39:04 AM
I almost hate to bring it up... but where do you go if Cal hires Wojo?
You take take a deep breath, hold your nose, and hire Howland.
That would be my guess.
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 01, 2014, 12:39:04 AM
I almost hate to bring it up... but where do you go if Cal hires Wojo?
Disband the basketball team? Jump in Lake Michigan? Sob deeply in your Ford Focus in the Al parking lot? Or...
Find someone else.
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 01, 2014, 12:39:04 AM
I almost hate to bring it up... but where do you go if Cal hires Wojo?
Wardle
Quote from: Ners on April 01, 2014, 12:38:09 AM
When is the last time we hired a coach, currently employed as a HEAD COACH, at a BCS school, that is coming off of a 2 point loss in the Sweet 16, that has his team ranked in the top 20 in Offensive and Defensive efficiency, who in his 6 years as a head coach at 2 different schools....has improved the team's record year over year, 6 years in a row??
Why is Howland out of work? Why hasn't he been hired elsewhere yet? Who else do/did you want us to get? We went hard after Shaka Smart. Don't think Izzo is going to leave MSU for Marquette, or Coach K, or Pitino, or Calipari...
It's still 1 bid in 6 years. That one bid, the play in game. They got lucky that Mercer bumped off Duke most likely...part of the crapshoot. Five two star recruits....ouch.
Howland was out of work last year because he made too much money to go back to work. He was better off not working and collecting money. This year, I don't know. Red flags, too much money, etc? Who knows. Don't think anyone here is claiming we should get Pitino, Izzo, Cal or anyone of that nature. However, I think plenty of people were concerned about a coach with 1 bid in 6 years, a bunch of 2 star recruits and a fan base where he currently is at that had 36,000 fans sign a petition saying they wanted another guy. That's plenty of red flags.
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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 12:21:03 AM
We can do better than Martin. If our salvation was hiring a guy with 1 NCAA bid in 6 years, then him pulling out didn't make us a joke. It was already there.
Personally, I choose to believe we can do better. Someone might have to gulp hard for a few guys, but there are some extremely good coaches out there if MU is will to step up.
I am beginning to wonder, Chicos, if we can indeed do better than Martin. Think high, Cords/Strong. They must be high on something.
As in "we the posters" - yeah you are a joke. You have no f'ing clue what is going on. You think Counzo dumped Marquette? This is coach speak for "I was not going to get the job."
Either wait for Marq to announce before trashing or just go join the Badger bandwagon...
I did realize Marquette has such jackhole fans...
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 01, 2014, 12:03:03 AM
We're unnatural carnal knowledgeed. We're a joke. Long time poster. Boom.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 01:13:38 AM
It's still 1 bid in 6 years. That one bid, the play in game. They got lucky that Mercer bumped off Duke most likely...part of the crapshoot. Five two star recruits....ouch.
Howland was out of work last year because he made too much money to go back to work. He was better off not working and collecting money. This year, I don't know. Red flags, too much money, etc? Who knows. Don't think anyone here is claiming we should get Pitino, Izzo, Cal or anyone of that nature. However, I think plenty of people were concerned about a coach with 1 bid in 6 years, a bunch of 2 star recruits and a fan base where he currently is at that had 36,000 fans sign a petition saying they wanted another guy. That's plenty of red flags.
What has Wojo done?
Slapped the floor and developed Shavlik Randolh, mcRoberts and Sheldon Williams.
I thought Collins was the better recruiter.
Again, not an impact hire. No
Assistant really is.
Quote from: atk13thst on April 01, 2014, 06:43:15 AM
What has Wojo done?
Ease up -- no one is ecstatic about him either
What? No slap of five?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2014, 12:27:33 AM
I believe they have been mentioned here for the last 10 days. For some reason, MU doesn't want to engage with some of them it seems, or maybe that isn't the case.
If MU's best bet is to go after a guy with 1 bid in 6 years, we have bigger issues. We can do better.
A-men!