I apologize if this has already been posted, my UT friend just sent it to me.
http://mrsec.com/school/tennessee/
QuoteTennessee: On Friday night, missed free throws cost the Volunteers a trip to the Elite Eight for just the second time in school history. On Sunday, coach Cuonzo Martin was meeting with Marquette officials. How does a major SEC school with a top-notch arena find itself on the verge of losing its coach to the Golden Eagles? Well, that petition to "Bring Back Bruce" Pearl to Knoxville is a good place to start.
A vocal segment of the UT fanbase never gave Martin a chance. He inherited an NCAA cloud and a roster picked for 10th place in the SEC. His teams got better each year, culminating with this year's Sweet Sixteen run. But fans who will accept no one other than Pearl cared not. "He can't recruit." "He's a terrible coach." "He doesn't excite us." "He doesn't play an exciting brand of basketball." All have been heard in the Volunteer State. A internet report on Friday claimed that some Tennessee boosters had denied Martin the right to use their private planes to recruit. Athletic director Dave Hart was ready to fire Martin had the Vols missed the NCAA Tournament. And on top of this, Martin has the third best record in the SEC over the last three years (behind Donovan and John Calipari) but his salary ranks 10th or 11th in the league depending on which list of contracts you trust. UT's brass didn't race to hand him an extension and a raise after the Vols fell on Friday, either.
If you were Martin and you had a chance to get back to the Midwest (he played at Purdue), make more money, re-start your clock (always the smart move), and work at a school where basketball is the top sport, wouldn't you take it?
From what we at MrSEC.com have been told, Martin and Marquette have all but sealed their deal. UT's coach and AD are expected to meet today, but at this point it would be a major surprise if Martin were to stalk the Tennessee sideline next season. The coach's buyout clause to leave Tennessee drops from $2.6 million to $1.3 million when the clock hits midnight tonight. The only negotiation today might be over that clause.
Hart and Tennessee seem to have little interest in coughing up big cash for a man they were ready to fire two weeks ago. And after being given the "You're not Bruce Pearl!" treatment in Knoxville, it's not believed Martin wants to stick around when a portion of the fanbase will always be against him. It's also important to remember that Hart played basketball at Alabama. He's a hoops guy and likely feels he can find his own basketball coach; he inherited Martin.
Things are always fluid and last-minute surprises can't be ruled out, but it looks like Tennessee is about to be in the market for yet another new coach.
#DONEDEAL
After reading that it made me much more comfortable with the Martin hire if that is to be the case.
I'll add that I had never heard of this website, but my friend said he goes there for all of his UT/SEC news and he claims the website is generally a pretty good source for SEC news. But who knows.
If it is gonna be Cuonzo, then welcome aboard!
I especially like the citation of "an internet report on Friday claimed..."
If it's Cuonzo, and signs are pointing to that happening, I love the idea of getting a head coach (with previous head coaching experience) with a chip on his shoulder.
per twitter speculation: UT will target Gregg Marshall.
Buzz only has 22k Twitter followers.
Shaka Smart has 26k followers.
Cuonzo Martin has 46k followers!
That counts for something, right?
8-)
What does Tennessees incoming recruiting class look like?
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 31, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
What does Tennessees incoming recruiting class look like?
4 3*
3 of the 4 are from the South, and the 4th is from Illinois (Larry Austin).
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 31, 2014, 08:41:35 PM
Buzz only has 22k Twitter followers.
Shaka Smart has 26k followers.
Cuonzo Martin has 46k followers!
That counts for something, right?
8-)
Includes 36,000 petition signers!
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 31, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
What does Tennessees incoming recruiting class look like?
Nothing special. No top 100 players.
My question is how does this guy lose out on 2 top 100, in-state recruits, Leron Black, from Memphis, Tennessee ...... to Illinois of all places?
And. ......
Jalen Lindsey Top 100- Another In state player..... goes to Providence.
I think the sharks realized it was open season in Tennessee. Not one guy was recruiting from in-state in the class.
You might as well send Diamond Stone a parting gift. This guy can't protect his own house.
We need a coach who is an outstanding recruiter. Then hopefully he's a great in-game coach. Recruiter is number one.
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 31, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
What does Tennessees incoming recruiting class look like?
Buncha unranked players that cap out at three stars. The UT boosters were wise to withdraw funding for recruiting when they saw a bad investment. MU's geniuses decide to sweeten the deal with even more.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
Nothing special. No top 100 players.
My question is how does this guy lose out on 2 top 100, in-state recruits, Leron Black, from Memphis, Tennessee ...... to Illinois of all places?
And. ......
Jalen Lindsey Top 100- Another In state player..... goes to Providence.
I think the sharks realized it was open season in Tennessee. Not one guy was recruiting from in-state in the class.
You might as well send Diamond Stone a parting gift. This guy can't protect his own house.
Are you serious with this garbage?!? You just cherry pick stats and anecdotal evidence to support your predetermined position.
C. Martin is not a horrible coach... stop trying to make everyone believe he is.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 31, 2014, 08:39:14 PM
per twitter speculation: UT will target Gregg Marshall.
So UT gets the good coach, and MU gets UT's discarded crap.
Quote from: MUSF on March 31, 2014, 09:04:34 PM
Are you serious with this garbage?!? You just cherry pick stats and anecdotal evidence to support your predetermined position.
C. Martin is not a horrible coach... stop trying to make everyone believe he is.
It shows he tried recruiting those players and offered them scholarships. He didn't get them. The sharks did.. not to mention, mediocre schools cherry picked his own state. That's a red flag in my book.
I want someone who can recruit, because if you don't have the horses, you're not going to get far in the race. I demand at least 3-4 star recruiting. If Martin recruiting 3-4 stars consistently, I'd be all for him to come to MU.
I hold the bar high and you reach quite low sir.
"I demand".........really? That implies you have some influence or standing.
Quote from: chapman on March 31, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
Buncha unranked players that cap out at three stars. The UT boosters were wise to withdraw funding for recruiting when they saw a bad investment. MU's geniuses decide to sweeten the deal with even more.
Really, you're going to support UT boosters and Administration? They're the smart ones in this scenario?
Let's look at a few facts...
1. Football is top priority at UT - School s**t cans national championship coach and hasn't competed for SEC since
2. UT can't hire football coach away from Duke, that's right Duke.
3. UT hires the moral pillar Bruce Pearl to helm the BBall program - he enjoys great success
4. In a huge surprise to absolutely nobody, Pearl turns out not to be such a great guy and gets s**t canned
5. New coach takes a program in disarray and improves it steadily over three seasons - many boosters treat him like a second class citizen at UT and lobby to get Pearl back.
The above hardly looks like wisdom in action.
You Should jump on the badger wagon and not come back... Really
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
It shows he tried recruiting those players and offered them scholarships. He didn't get them. The sharks did.. not to mention, mediocre schools cherry picked his own state. That's a red flag in my book.
I want someone who can recruit, because if you don't have the horses, you're not going to get far in the race. I demand at least 3-4 star recruiting. If Martin recruiting 3-4 stars consistently, I'd be all for him to come to MU.
I hold the bar high and you reach quite low sir.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
It shows he tried recruiting those players and offered them scholarships. He didn't get them. The sharks did.. not to mention, mediocre schools cherry picked his own state. That's a red flag in my book.
I want someone who can recruit, because if you don't have the horses, you're not going to get far in the race. I demand at least 3-4 star recruiting. If Martin recruiting 3-4 stars consistently, I'd be all for him to come to MU.
I hold the bar high and you reach quite low sir.
You demand??? I just stopped laughing from this.
This post, like most of your posts, is completely ridiculous. I guess you're right, you do set the bar pretty high.
EDIT: As mentioned in previous threads, Martin has gotten more 5 Star recruits at UT in three years than Buzz and Crean combined. The entire premise of your ridiculous rant isn't even accurate.
Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
"I demand".........really? That implies you have some influence or standing.
Oh man, I have no clue why, but tears of laughter are coming out of my eyes right now
"I demand" LMAO Easy there, bud. Who are you?
I suppose if you're going to make a statement, you might as well make it with some authority
"I am the source."
"Shaka Smart. Write it on the wall. In sharpie. Put varnish over it. Paint arrows pointing at it."
Quote from: MUSF on March 31, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Really, you're going to support UT boosters and Administration? They're the smart ones in this scenario?
Absolutely. They've made some questionable calls, with the aid of hindsight and a bird's eye view. I've far less confidence on the homefront.
Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
"I demand".........really? That implies you have some influence or standing.
Don't worry Tower, this guy has posted like 50 posts a day and the best thing that happened was him taking down his larger than life Brett Favre signature photo. The pool he started asked opinions, then he ripped everyone for commenting. Too many others to even waste time on. This board has been a mess the last week and there has been a decline in the usual posters have made at least a logical opinion in the past. Sorry, Mr. Deane, but it probably isn't just me, but need to slow down abit.
We're talking "c" words, hachtets to faces, idiots at MU, stupid gifs/photos and can go on, but you get the thought. Hope it ends soon.
Martin should be fine if he can maintain current players, current commitments and if he gets Stone. Thats seven four stars and one five star for 2015. If he can't coach that squad, then rip him in 2016, not now. If some leave, which I don't believe will happen with Martin hiring, play it out.
Give him or whoever a chance at least.
Quote from: chapman on March 31, 2014, 09:26:04 PM
Absolutely. They've made some questionable calls, with the aid of hindsight and a bird's eye view. I've far less confidence on the homefront.
What else do we have to go off of besides hindsight? What makes you so certain that Martin was the problem at UT and not the boosters and administration? If Mr. SEC is correct, it certainly looks like Martin is on the high ground in Knoxville.
I feel ya, NYG. It has been an odd and enlightening week. And not in a good way.
Quote from: MUSF on March 31, 2014, 09:18:54 PM
You demand??? I just stopped laughing from this.
This post, like most of your posts, is completely ridiculous. I guess you're right, you do set the bar pretty high.
EDIT: As mentioned in previous threads, Martin has gotten more 5 Star recruits at UT in three years than Buzz and Crean combined. The entire premise of your ridiculous rant isn't even accurate.
My rant is that Martin failed to protect the state. You sir, have no ammo against this. Surrender.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
My rant is that Martin failed to protect the state. You sir, have no ammo against this. Surrender.
How'd Buzz do at "protecting the state"?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
My rant is that Martin failed to protect the state. You sir, have no ammo against this. Surrender.
Scott Pastner must be a terrible head coach then as well
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
My rant is that Martin failed to protect the state. You sir, have no ammo against this. Surrender.
. Does the black knight in Holy Grail represent this guy or what....lets have at it, I'll bite you in the knee.
Deane, if you hate CM so much, please stop posting when he's hired in protest.
That'll show 'em good...real good.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 31, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
How'd Buzz do at "protecting the state"?
Well..... He did get Vander Blue and Deonte Burton. Tokoto and Looney left. Nonetheless, Buzz has nothing to do with Martin. The fact is.... Martin went after recruits in Tennessee and lost out to Illinois and Providence. That is unacceptable. At least Buzz didn't lose out to mid tier programs on in state recruits.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
My rant is that Martin failed to protect the state. You sir, have no ammo against this. Surrender.
Let the TN guy respond to this. You obviously no nothing about TN geography. Memphis is not a recruiting hotbed for UT, especially in basketball. Memphis and Knoxville are about 6 hours apart. Memphis has a good basketball program IN THE SAME CITY, Oxford is about an hour away, Mizzou about 3 hours away, Miss St. about 3 hours, Vandy 3 hours, etc. The point being that there are a lot of good schools a lot closer than Knoxville and it's not as simple as being in the same state.
Still not leaning towards any one candidate, but I'll stand up for Martin. Kind of unfair to take away the man's recruiting resources, then point to this year's class and say, "See? He can't recruit!" Self-fulfilling prophecy at its finest.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
Well..... He did get Vander Blue and Deonte Burton. Tokoto and Looney left. Nonetheless, Buzz has nothing to do with Martin. The fact is.... Martin went after recruits in Tennessee and lost out to Illinois and Providence. That is unacceptable. At least Buzz didn't lose out to mid tier programs on in state recruits.
Honest question, are you thirteen years old? Your logic is terrible and nearly every argument you make is a textbook logical fallacy.
You have no idea what the circumstances were with these two ultra-critical Tennessee recruits. Yet somehow, this is the only evidence you need to determine that Martin will be unable to recruit in Wisconsin.
How about the two five star recruits he pulled in and the sweet sixteen run? Are those unacceptable too?
Quote from: VolFan on March 31, 2014, 09:52:45 PM
Let the TN guy respond to this. You obviously no nothing about TN geography. Memphis is not a recruiting hotbed for UT, especially in basketball. Memphis and Knoxville are about 6 hours apart. Memphis has a good basketball program IN THE SAME CITY, Oxford is about an hour away, Mizzou about 3 hours away, Miss St. about 3 hours, Vandy 3 hours, etc. The point being that there are a lot of good schools a lot closer than Knoxville and it's not as simple as being in the same state.
Thank you for your insight.
Quote from: VolFan on March 31, 2014, 09:52:45 PM
Let the TN guy respond to this. You obviously no nothing about TN geography. Memphis is not a recruiting hotbed for UT, especially in basketball. Memphis and Knoxville are about 6 hours apart. Memphis has a good basketball program IN THE SAME CITY, Oxford is about an hour away, Mizzou about 3 hours away, Miss St. about 3 hours, Vandy 3 hours, etc. The point being that there are a lot of good schools a lot closer than Knoxville and it's not as simple as being in the same state.
You'll get no logical response from Deane. This post doesn't fit his fictional narrative of the horrors of Cuonzo Martin.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
Nothing special. No top 100 players.
My question is how does this guy lose out on 2 top 100, in-state recruits, Leron Black, from Memphis, Tennessee ...... to Illinois of all places?
And. ......
Jalen Lindsey Top 100- Another In state player..... goes to Providence.
I think the sharks realized it was open season in Tennessee. Not one guy was recruiting from in-state in the class.
You might as well send Diamond Stone a parting gift. This guy can't protect his own house.
Really?
Looney
Tokoto
Etc.
Quote from: nyg on March 31, 2014, 09:31:30 PM
Don't worry Tower, this guy has posted like 50 posts a day and the best thing that happened was him taking down his larger than life Brett Favre signature photo. The pool he started asked opinions, then he ripped everyone for commenting. Too many others to even waste time on. This board has been a mess the last week and there has been a decline in the usual posters have made at least a logical opinion in the past. Sorry, Mr. Deane, but it probably isn't just me, but need to slow down abit.
We're talking "c" words, hachtets to faces, idiots at MU, stupid gifs/photos and can go on, but you get the thought. Hope it ends soon.
Martin should be fine if he can maintain current players, current commitments and if he gets Stone. Thats seven four stars and one five star for 2015. If he can't coach that squad, then rip him in 2016, not now. If some leave, which I don't believe will happen with Martin hiring, play it out.
Give him or whoever a chance at least.
Whew. Good post.
Quote from: VolFan on March 31, 2014, 09:52:45 PM
Let the TN guy respond to this. You obviously no nothing about TN geography. Memphis is not a recruiting hotbed for UT, especially in basketball. Memphis and Knoxville are about 6 hours apart. Memphis has a good basketball program IN THE SAME CITY, Oxford is about an hour away, Mizzou about 3 hours away, Miss St. about 3 hours, Vandy 3 hours, etc. The point being that there are a lot of good schools a lot closer than Knoxville and it's not as simple as being in the same state.
Martin offered Leron Black a scholarship, who's from Memphis. Leron, chose Illinois.
Martin offered Jalen Lindsey a scholarship from Franklin, TN. He chose Providence.
Martin didn't get any top 100 players in the 2014 class. He recruited 9 top 100 players. All of which, turned him down. That isn't a good sign.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 10:04:08 PM
Martin offered Leron Black a scholarship, who's from Memphis. Leron, chose Illinois.
Martin offered Jalen Lindsey a scholarship from Franklin, TN. He chose Providence.
Martin didn't get any top 100 players in the 2014 class. He recruited 9 top 100 players. All of which, turned him down. That isn't a good sign.
Buzz offers anyone that's a switchable every year, and gets turned down a lot more.
You have no idea how recruiting works. Just stop.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
It shows he tried recruiting those players and offered them scholarships. He didn't get them. The sharks did.. not to mention, mediocre schools cherry picked his own state. That's a red flag in my book.
I want someone who can recruit, because if you don't have the horses, you're not going to get far in the race. I demand at least 3-4 star recruiting. If Martin recruiting 3-4 stars consistently, I'd be all for him to come to MU.
I hold the bar high and you reach quite low sir.
Because fans in Tennessee wanted him gone from the day he was hired. They loved Pearl and wanted their cheater back. No job security whatsoever which was used in recruiting against him. A recruiting budget much, much, smaller than MU.
You hate the idea of Martin so you'll cherry pick anything to denigrate him. For your next post, compare how many 5-star prospects he signed in three years against how many Crean/Buzz signed in 15 years.
Hopefully if he is hired, you will be so disgusted that you leave.
Quote from: tower912 on March 31, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
"I demand".........really? That implies you have some influence or standing.
He outdid himself on that one, Hey? Rather high opinion of himself.
Quote from: brandx on March 31, 2014, 10:09:21 PM
Because fans in Tennessee wanted him gone from the day he was hired. They loved Pearl and wanted their cheater back. No job security whatsoever which was used in recruiting against him. A recruiting budget much, much, smaller than MU.
You hate the idea of Martin so you'll cherry pick anything to denigrate him. For your next post, compare how many 5-star prospects he signed in three years against how many Crean/Buzz signed in 15 years.
Hopefully if he is hired, you will be so disgusted that you leave.
Also keep in mind MU's assistants. I mean, Chew was supposedly making $800k. That's more than what VTech was paying their head coach.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
Nothing special. No top 100 players.
My question is how does this guy lose out on 2 top 100, in-state recruits, Leron Black, from Memphis, Tennessee ...... to Illinois of all places?
And. ......
Jalen Lindsey Top 100- Another In state player..... goes to Providence.
I think the sharks realized it was open season in Tennessee. Not one guy was recruiting from in-state in the class.
You might as well send Diamond Stone a parting gift. This guy can't protect his own house.
Most Memphis players go everywhere but Tennessee no matter who the coach is. In the case of Jalen Lindsey, he played at the same school where Martin pulled the offer to Travon Landry at the last minute after he'd kept the commitment all season when Landry wasn't even starting for his high school team and was averaging under 5ppg. That coach pretty much told Martin never to darken his doorway again after that.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 10:04:08 PM
Martin offered Leron Black a scholarship, who's from Memphis. Leron, chose Illinois.
Martin offered Jalen Lindsey a scholarship from Franklin, TN. He chose Providence.
Martin didn't get any top 100 players in the 2014 class. He recruited 9 top 100 players. All of which, turned him down. That isn't a good sign.
Wow. You must have really hated Buzz. He recruited more than 9 top 100 players who turned him down. You continually amaze with your lack of knowledge.
But maybe you're good for the board. Laughter is the best medicine and I think I'm overdosing on your posts.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 10:04:08 PM
Martin offered Leron Black a scholarship, who's from Memphis. Leron, chose Illinois.
Martin offered Jalen Lindsey a scholarship from Franklin, TN. He chose Providence.
Martin didn't get any top 100 players in the 2014 class. He recruited 9 top 100 players. All of which, turned him down. That isn't a good sign.
Lets see:
2013 Top Recruits, State and Choice SchoolWiggins WV Kansas
Randle TX Kentucky
Gordon CA Arizona
Parker IL Duke
A. Harrison TX Kentucky
Walker FL Florida
AAHarrison TX Kentucky
Vonleah MA Indiana
Johnson FL Kentucky
Hill FL Florida
Young MI Kentucky
Selden NH Kansas
HEY, only Billy Donovan PROTECTS his state, lets rip all those coaches who can't keep them in state.
2104 Top Recruits, State, SchoolsOkafor IL Duke
Mudiay TX SMU, crap he didn't pick Univ of Texas, Barnes should be canned
Johnson CA Arizona
Jones MN Duke
etc
etc
etc
etc
It's the same, every year.
You have no clue is right
Quote from: brandx on March 31, 2014, 10:14:54 PM
Wow. You must have really hated Buzz. He recruited more than 9 top 100 players who turned him down. You continually amaze with your lack of knowledge.
But maybe you're good for the board. Laughter is the best medicine and I think I'm overdosing on your posts.
Why would I hate Buzz? He actually went out and got top 100 guys each year, unlike Martin. I still don't understand why you support the guy with 1 miracle season. You would dump 2.5 million on that risk?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 10:20:17 PM
Why would I hate Buzz? He actually went out and got top 100 guys each year, unlike Martin. I still don't understand why you support the guy with 1 miracle season. You would dump 2.5 million on that risk?
Dumb.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 31, 2014, 10:52:02 PM
Just like all of yours.
I've presented arguments and provided fact from sources to back up the argument. For whatever reason, this seems to offend some. Perhaps some people have too soft of a skin. Nonetheless, I will continue to ask these questions as they are critical in determining the best candidate. If anything, I like a good debate that is supported with facts and sources. Please provide and enhance the board, rather than provide phrases..... "Just like all of yours." I mean..... seriously.... are we in middle school?
FYI, just so you know, from what i have heard, Jalen Lindsey's father is from Rhode Island and is a great PC fan, and Jalen has a lot of extended family in RI. Also, Ed Cooley has a great relationship with his father. All of this played a good part in the Friars' recruitment of JL. (Also, Ed is a really good guy, charismatic, smart, and a great coach.)
I'm a Providence fan, and I want MU to get a good hire, and after reading through the many threads I really have no clue which candidate would be best. I will say that it seems like there's no wrong answer really... Cuonzo, Howland and Wojo would all be good gets. I have no idea on the other longshots like Wardle, etc.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 11:12:52 PM
I've presented arguments and provided fact from sources to back up the argument. For whatever reason, this seems to offend some. Perhaps some people have too soft of a skin. Nonetheless, I will continue to ask these questions as they are critical in determining the best candidate. If anything, I like a good debate that is supported with facts and sources. Please provide and enhance the board, rather than provide phrases..... "Just like all of yours." I mean..... seriously.... are we in middle school?
Yeah, continue to think you have a role in all of this. First, you "
demand" and now this. But, go ahead and determine all you want.
Quote from: billyjack on March 31, 2014, 11:18:02 PM
FYI, just so you know, from what i have heard, Jalen Lindsey's father is from Rhode Island and is a great PC fan, and Jalen has a lot of extended family in RI. Also, Ed Cooley has a great relationship with his father. All of this played a good part in the Friars' recruitment of JL. (Also, Ed is a really good guy, charismatic, smart, and a great coach.)
I'm a Providence fan, and I want MU to get a good hire, and after reading through the many threads I really have no clue which candidate would be best. I will say that it seems like there's no wrong answer really... Cuonzo, Howland and Wojo would all be good gets. I have no idea on the other longshots like Wardle, etc.
Respect the process Billy (insert real here). At this point expect exact opposite of what scoop insiders have to say.
Quote from: brandx on March 31, 2014, 11:20:10 PM
Yeah, continue to think you have a role in all of this. First, you "demand" and now this. But, go ahead and determine all you want.
What does "my demand" have to do with anything? It was humor and people said they laughed. Mission accomplished.
Quote from: VolFan on March 31, 2014, 09:52:45 PM
Let the TN guy respond to this. You obviously no nothing about TN geography. Memphis is not a recruiting hotbed for UT, especially in basketball. Memphis and Knoxville are about 6 hours apart. Memphis has a good basketball program IN THE SAME CITY, Oxford is about an hour away, Mizzou about 3 hours away, Miss St. about 3 hours, Vandy 3 hours, etc. The point being that there are a lot of good schools a lot closer than Knoxville and it's not as simple as being in the same state.
Well, by that line of reasoning no Milwaukee kid should go anywhere but Marquette...
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2014, 11:12:52 PM
I've presented arguments and provided fact from sources to back up the argument. For whatever reason, this seems to offend some. Perhaps some people have too soft of a skin. Nonetheless, I will continue to ask these questions as they are critical in determining the best candidate. If anything, I like a good debate that is supported with facts and sources. Please provide and enhance the board, rather than provide phrases..... "Just like all of yours." I mean..... seriously.... are we in middle school?
I don't know why I bother but...
Your facts and sources don't support the logical leap you make with your arguments.
Martin didn't get any recruits from Tennessee in 2014 - Therefore Martin will not be able to get recruits from Wisconsin at MU.
Do you not see the logical breakdown of this argument?
Quote from: MUSF on March 31, 2014, 11:34:06 PM
I don't know why I bother but...
Your facts and sources don't support the logical leap you make with your arguments.
Martin didn't get any recruits from Tennessee in 2014 - Therefore Martin will not be able to get recruits from Wisconsin at MU.
Do you not see the logical breakdown of this argument?
This is all mental masturbation. Anyone who reads haiku knows the man isn't headed to MU.
Quote from: keefe on March 31, 2014, 11:35:32 PM
This is all mental masturbation. Anyone who reads haiku knows the man isn't headed to MU.
That's all some of the old guys have left.
Quote from: brandx on March 31, 2014, 11:39:11 PM
That's all some of the old guys have left.
reading haiku?
Quote from: brandx on March 31, 2014, 11:44:43 PM
Mental masturbation.
I know. I was just funnin' ya x!
Mental masturbation got Jimmy Carter elected, mind you. (pun)