Building pipelines there, recruiting has been good considering he's at a mid major.
This kid has the bloodlines and has more recent success than Cuonzo.
Why on God's green earth are we mentioning Cuonzo over Archie?
How do you know Archie wants to come here? He just accepted an extension.
Also, coaching at Dayton and coaching at a post scandal Tennessee are two different things.
He's just sent Dayton on a historic run. Archie needs no excuses.
Many coaches sign extensions before leaving. What's he going to say no?
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 03:20:14 PM
Building pipelines there, recruiting has been good considering he's at a mid major.
This kid has the bloodlines and has more recent success than Cuonzo.
Why on God's green earth are we mentioning Cuonzo over Archie?
Bloodlines are hugely important when it comes to coaching college basketball.
Just ask Pat Knight, Keno Davis and Murray Bartow.
Lets see. We have Miller, Bennett, Howland, Hopkins, Wardle, Manning, Stephens, Martin....etc.
Who the hell is on first? Larry, Moe, Curly or Shemp?
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 03:20:14 PM
Building pipelines there, recruiting has been good considering he's at a mid major.
This kid has the bloodlines and has more recent success than Cuonzo.
Why on God's green earth are we mentioning Cuonzo over Archie?
If by "we" mentioning Cuonzo over Archie, you are correct. If by "we" you mean Marquette University, you are not correct.
Assuming Florida beats Dayton tonight (safe bet), let's revisit this issue after UD is done.
Note: 100% my own personal speculation.
Tony Bennett, Steve Alford, etc. had fathers that were good coaches.
Seeing as Archie's already had more success than the guys you mentioned, he seems to be in the positive category.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 03:37:36 PM
Tony Bennett, Steve Alford, etc. had fathers that were good coaches.
Seeing as Archie's already had more success than the guys you mentioned, he seems to be in the positive category.
That makes sense--we need Allie McGuire in the mix.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 29, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
Lets see. We have Miller, Bennett, Howland, Hopkins, Wardle, Manning, Stephens, Martin....etc.
Who the hell is on first? Larry, Moe, Curly or Shemp?
Nobody wants to come here, that is why we have to pay so much.
Quote from: bilsu on March 29, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
Nobody wants to come here, that is why we have to pay so much.
Finally someone who gets it. Milwaukee is a small market city. We play in an outdated hockey
arena, and the Bucks are barely an NBA team.The Wisconsin talent pool is not that deep. Not sure why everyone thinks the Marquette job is so
attractive? Lots of homers drinking up the blue and gold Kool-aid. I love Marquette as much as anyone, but lets
be realistic. We are a mid-major. I doubt Shaka would have even talked to us if it were not for Doc.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 29, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
Lets see. We have Miller, Bennett, Howland, Hopkins, Wardle, Manning, Stephens, Martin....etc.
Who the hell is on first? Larry, Moe, Curly or Shemp?
Curly just left.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Finally someone who gets it. Milwaukee is a small market city. We play in an outdated hockey
arena, and the Bucks are barely an NBA team.The Wisconsin talent pool is not that deep. Not sure why everyone thinks the Marquette job is so
attractive? Lots of homers drinking up the blue and gold Kool-aid. I love Marquette as much as anyone, but lets
be realistic. We are a mid-major. I doubt Shaka would have even talked to us if it were not for Doc.
Let's see: They flock to Lawrence, Durham, Syracuse, Norman, etc. Been to Richmond many times--it holds nothing over Milwaukee.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Finally someone who gets it. Milwaukee is a small market city. We play in an outdated hockey
arena, and the Bucks are barely an NBA team.The Wisconsin talent pool is not that deep. Not sure why everyone thinks the Marquette job is so
attractive? Lots of homers drinking up the blue and gold Kool-aid. I love Marquette as much as anyone, but lets
be realistic. We are a mid-major. I doubt Shaka would have even talked to us if it were not for Doc.
Stfu with that mid-major crap. That is what pisses me off more then anything is when people claim MU is a mid major. To think that was is absolutely ridiculous. God damn it you people are such god damn naysayers its not even fun to be associated with any MU fans who arent students.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 03:37:36 PM
Tony Bennett, Steve Alford, etc. had fathers that were good coaches.
Seeing as Archie's already had more success than the guys you mentioned, he seems to be in the positive category.
If you want to make a case for Archie Miller, have at it.
If you want to make a case for Archie Miller based on breeding and the fact he recruits Chicago - like every other single coach in the Midwest and beyond - then your case sucks.
In the meantime, while giving Dayton credit for a great run, let's nor forget they - like Tennessee - were one of the last teams to get into the tourney, and are a year removed from a season in which they couldn't even qualify for the A-10 tournament.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 03:20:14 PM
Building pipelines there, recruiting has been good considering he's at a mid major.
This kid has the bloodlines and has more recent success than Cuonzo.
Why on God's green earth are we mentioning Cuonzo over Archie?
Sir, theres nothing mid major about the A-10
Quote from: atk13thst on March 29, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Sir, theres nothing mid major about the A-10
So youre telling me you would rather have the likes of SLU, Dayton and VCU over Georgetown, Nova and Marquette? Ok... May be one of the most ignorant statements ive heard.
Why is this even a thread? MU reached out to Miller, not only did he say no, he didn't listen to MU's pitch for a minute.
Come on guys.
Quote from: MUDish on March 29, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
Why is this even a thread? MU reached out to Miller, not only did he say no, he didn't listen to MU's pitch for a minute.
Come on guys.
Thank you. What a pointless thread. Archie Miller hits a lot of things hard if the crowd shots are any indication.
Hey Willie Warrior-Good one. Curly Joe is the coach.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Finally someone who gets it. Milwaukee is a small market city. We play in an outdated hockey
arena, and the Bucks are barely an NBA team.The Wisconsin talent pool is not that deep. Not sure why everyone thinks the Marquette job is so
attractive? Lots of homers drinking up the blue and gold Kool-aid. I love Marquette as much as anyone, but lets
be realistic. We are a mid-major. I doubt Shaka would have even talked to us if it were not for Doc.
Actually had some decent points until the end. MU is far from a mid-major currently. Let's hope it stays that way.
Quote from: MUDish on March 29, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
Why is this even a thread? MU reached out to Miller, not only did he say no, he didn't listen to MU's pitch for a minute.
Come on guys.
According to whom ? I doubt they reached out when he was still coaching.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Finally someone who gets it. Milwaukee is a small market city. We play in an outdated hockey
arena, and the Bucks are barely an NBA team.The Wisconsin talent pool is not that deep. Not sure why everyone thinks the Marquette job is so
attractive? Lots of homers drinking up the blue and gold Kool-aid. I love Marquette as much as anyone, but lets
be realistic. We are a mid-major. I doubt Shaka would have even talked to us if it were not for Doc.
I grow weary of your idiotic comments. By college standards, the BMO BC is awesome. And our practice facilities and commitment to basketball is top notch. Just go away fool.
Quote from: MARQ_13 on March 29, 2014, 07:15:58 PM
According to whom ? I doubt they reached out when he was still coaching.
Jeff Goodman.
It's pretty simple to do.
MU to Miller's reps: "Would Archie have interest in MU?"
Rep: "No thank you".
MU: "Could we talk to him direct at appropriate time?"
Rep: "Not interested".
Come on guys, let's act like a big boy fanbase already.
Common sense would be u don't reach out to a coach when he's still playing....seems they waited with shaka. Be a good way to piss a coach off.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 07:30:43 PM
Common sense would be u don't reach out to a coach when he's still playing....seems they waited with shaka. Be a good way to piss a coach off.
Yeah, no one ever tampers or talks to someone through third party sources. Never happens.
For all you naive people that believe that BS, go listen to the Kenneth Tarr recordings.
Of course talks go through third parties, that's the norm.
However, most people know not to bother the coach when they're in the middle of the most important part of their season.
Quote from: atk13thst on March 29, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Sir, theres nothing mid major about the A-10
Other than the entire bottom half of the conference? There are some really strong programs in the A 10, but there are also programs that make DePaul look great.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Finally someone who gets it. Milwaukee is a small market city. We play in an outdated hockey
arena, and the Bucks are barely an NBA team.The Wisconsin talent pool is not that deep. Not sure why everyone thinks the Marquette job is so
attractive? Lots of homers drinking up the blue and gold Kool-aid. I love Marquette as much as anyone, but lets
be realistic. We are a mid-major. I doubt Shaka would have even talked to us if it were not for Doc.
Where bugs bunny when we need him. Maaa-rooooon!. alert!!!!!
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Finally someone who gets it. Milwaukee is a small market city. We play in an outdated hockey
arena, and the Bucks are barely an NBA team.The Wisconsin talent pool is not that deep. Not sure why everyone thinks the Marquette job is so
attractive? Lots of homers drinking up the blue and gold Kool-aid. I love Marquette as much as anyone, but lets
be realistic. We are a mid-major. I doubt Shaka would have even talked to us if it were not for Doc.
Hahahaha. Great input.
There really are some absolutely clueless posters around here these days!
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 07:50:48 PM
Of course talks go through third parties, that's the norm.
However, most people know not to bother the coach when they're in the middle of the most important part of their season.
If MU contacted Miller, whether directly or indirectly, then the people conducting the search are dumber than we think.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 29, 2014, 09:11:41 PM
Hahahaha. Great input.
There really are some absolutely clueless posters around here these days!
The first step to recovery is admission. Your clueless if you think we are a destination
job. Don't pretend to be something your not and you will be better for it.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
The first step to recovery is admission. Your clueless if you think we are a destination
job. Don't pretend to be something your not and you will be better for it.
Recovery from what? Marquette is one of the best programs in a conference that will be 3rd-5th best every season. I cannot fathom how any informed CBB fan can call that a MM. Marquette is not the job it was in the days of the old Big East but it is still easily a top 25 or 30 job and program. If you call that a MM, that proves how clueless you are.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 29, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
Recovery from what? Marquette is one of the best programs in a conference that will be 3rd-5th best every season. I cannot fathom how any informed CBB fan can call that a MM. Marquette is not the job it was in the days of the old Big East but it is still easily a top 25 or 30 job and program. If you call that a MM, that proves how clueless you are.
what is your definition of a high major? To me it is the big dog in the state. A school that thrives in more than just one major sport. A school that owns its own arena on campus. Does any of that describe Marquette?
Somebody explain to me how Miller's resume is better than Martin's. I'm not seeing it.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
what is your definition of a high major? To me it is the big dog in the state. A school that thrives in more than just one major sport. A school that owns its own arena on campus. Does any of that describe Marquette?
A high major college basketball team is a team that competes in a major conference that routinely is one of the top 50 teams year in and year out, invests money in their basketball program and is in postseason play nearly every year.
How in the world can you describe a school that spends more on their men's basketball program than any school in the country besides Duke a MM??
What you just described is a big state school. Every team that is not a state school is not just automatically a MM.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
what is your definition of a high major? To me it is the big dog in the state. A school that thrives in more than just one major sport. A school that owns its own arena on campus. Does any of that describe Marquette?
That's a very unique and bizarre definition. I'm not sure anyone in college bball would agree with it.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 29, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
A high major college basketball team is a team that competes in a major conference that routinely is one of the top 50 teams year in and year out, invests money in their basketball program and is in postseason play nearly every year.
How in the world can you describe a school that spends more on their men's basketball program than any school in the country besides Duke a MM??
What you just described is a big state school. Every team that is not a state school is not just automatically a MM.
top 50 is not a high major. Ask Tom Crean and Buzz Wiliams how much of a destination school Marquette is.
Both left because at the end of the day neither one was able to recruit the players they wanted to. They had to settle
for the second tier guys and had to develop cultures of out working the other more talented teams. Milwaukee is a small
market town. That is not going to change and neither will the national perception of Marquette. Just because you have
money and spend it on your program means nothing.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 29, 2014, 09:47:52 PM
top 50 is not a high major. Ask Tom Crean and Buzz Wiliams how much of a destination school Marquette is.
Both left because at the end of the day neither one was able to recruit the players they wanted to. They had to settle
for the second tier guys and had to develop cultures of out working the other more talented teams. Milwaukee is a small
market town. That is not going to change and neither will the national perception of Marquette. Just because you have
money and spend it on your program means nothing.
Ok. You're wrong but I am done banging my head on a wall.