http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10694221/cuonzo-martin-target-marquette-golden-eagles
After missing on VCU's Shaka Smart, Marquette has identified Tennessee coach Cuonzo Martin as one of its top targets.
Sources told ESPN.com that Martin and former UCLA coach Ben Howland are two top-tier candidates to replace Buzz Williams, who left for Virginia Tech last week. Sources told ESPN.com that Howland is extremely interested in the job while it's unclear whether Martin would seriously entertain discussions from Marquette.
Martin played and was an assistant coach at Purdue before spending three seasons as the head coach at Missouri State. Martin replaced Bruce Pearl in 2011, taking the Vols to a pair of NIT appearances before making the Sweet 16 this season. Tennessee lost to Michigan on Friday night.
Howland took UCLA to three consecutive Final Four appearances from 2006 to 2008, but was fired after last season and sat out this season.
UT barely made the tourney. I give Martin credit for getting them to last night, but they barely squeaked in the field. This after two NIT's.
And we're hot for Martin, why exactly?
Someone please explain this? He's no more qualified than Wardle.
I'm glad this article puts to rest the foolish thought being floated around that Howland doesn't have interest in the MU position.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 29, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
UT barely made the tourney. I give Martin credit for getting them to last night, but they barely squeaked in the field. This after two NIT's.
And we're hot for Martin, why exactly?
Someone please explain this? He's no more qualified than Wardle.
Low expectations and nonsensical attempts at logic.
Although his accomplishments pre UT were winning a CollegeInsider.com tournament and an NIT second round loss.
His track record is incredibly mediocre. No thank-you.
Quote from: Eldon on March 29, 2014, 01:24:42 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10694221/cuonzo-martin-target-marquette-golden-eagles
Let the games begin!!!
Looks like they will make an offer to Martin and see where he's at concerning numbers. My theory is that 1 of 2 things will happen:
1) Use him as leverage to lower Howland's number
2) Flat out sign him - if he's interested.
My guess is that he takes the job as Tennessee doesn't have much talent left after the seniors leave and their SF declares for NBA.
If he's not signed by early Monday, then consider Howland the leading candidate and expect a signing next week.
Quote from: MUStudent on March 29, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
I'm glad this article puts to rest the foolish thought being floated around that Howland doesn't have interest in the MU position.
Yes, it's good to hear from a national source that Howland is still in the mix.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 29, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
UT barely made the tourney. I give Martin credit for getting them to last night, but they barely squeaked in the field. This after two NIT's.
And we're hot for Martin, why exactly?
Someone please explain this? He's no more qualified than Wardle.
Don't forget that he didn't show up to coach the game last night, until the 2nd half.
OK, outlandish theory with Howland. Maybe there utilizing the commercial practice of "need three (3) estimates/quotes" before we make a purchase.
Then again maybe not since SS was apparently a done deal way back in the beginning of the process.
Quote from: MUStudent on March 29, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
I'm glad this article puts to rest the foolish thought being floated around that Howland doesn't have interest in the MU position.
I never saw anyone say Howland wasn't interested, just the interest wasn't mutual.
Someone on a previous blog mentioned----PETE GILLEN, he is a solid coach, would be a darn good fit. Stability.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 29, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
Don't forget that he didn't show up to coach the game last night, until the 2nd half.
I swear this whole thing is just getting worse by the minute.
Maybe Howland is still in play, if so, good- get either he or Weber in here and stop jerking around w/ the Counzo Martin's of the world.
Kind of like buzz would not gave made the elite 8 with out a miracle against Davidson?
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 29, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
UT barely made the tourney. I give Martin credit for getting them to last night, but they barely squeaked in the field. This after two NIT's.
And we're hot for Martin, why exactly?
Someone please explain this? He's no more qualified than Wardle.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 29, 2014, 01:40:33 PM
OK, outlandish theory with Howland. Maybe there utilizing the commercial practice of "need three (3) estimates/quotes" before we make a purchase.
Then again maybe not since SS was apparently a done deal way back in the beginning of the process.
Nothing outlandish about it. Of course they have to do that now. Shaka would be the exception because he would have met all the necessary criteria. 3 quotes not necessary in his case.
Keeping in mind that Martin couldn't even discuss the job leave alone interview until his team was out of the tourney I would expect things to get serious now and fast. I assume that Jon Harris (who for sure knows Cords well from his time as a player) has been the back channel to get MU interested and assess that there would be interest from Martin.
My best case scenario goes like this: MU would prefer to hire a black HC assuming a guy they believe is qualified is available. That's Martin. They want to interview him, ask some tough questions, not the least of which is will you bolt on us in the next 3 years if the Purdue job opens. At the same time they interview Howland (remember this is my best case scenario). If Martin passes the interview and accepts the details he gets the job. If not he uses the interview to pressure Tenn for more security and more $$. Then they turn and offer the job to Howland. MU rationalizes "We tried to hire a black HC but it didn't work out". Having two guys interview and one guy announced a day or so later looks just fine. Maybe Wardle gets and interview as a courtesy and a marker for next time and more money from UWGB.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on March 29, 2014, 01:42:01 PM
Someone on a previous blog mentioned----PETE GILLEN, he is a solid coach, would be a darn good fit. Stability.
He has stability - social security has already kicked in.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 29, 2014, 01:42:41 PM
Kind of like buzz would not gave made the elite 8 with out a miracle against Davidson?
He did make two other Sweet 16's.
Martin has one post-season run- ONE- thus far in his coaching career at two schools to hang his hat on.
Quote from: chapman on March 29, 2014, 01:35:59 PM
Low expectations and nonsensical attempts at logic.
Amen
NotAnAlum, I think you have it, I've settled/locked in on that scenario/strategy about 3 days ago, and have seen nothing to change my mind.
and shaka lost to Stephen F Austin ... you guys are obsessed with hiring a big name, which I don't understand considering the success MU has had with assistants ...
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 29, 2014, 01:42:41 PM
Kind of like buzz would not gave made the elite 8 with out a miracle against Davidson?
Kind of like buzz would not gave made the elite 8 with out a miracle against Davidson?
He did make two other Sweet 16's.
Martin has one post-season run- ONE- thus far in his coaching career at two schools to hang his hat on.
That game being played that you guys are talking about? You're not supposed to talk about that game.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 29, 2014, 01:43:23 PM
Keeping in mind that Martin couldn't even discuss the job leave alone interview until his team was out of the tourney I would expect things to get serious now and fast. I assume that Jon Harris (who for sure knows Cords well from his time as a player) has been the back channel to get MU interested and assess that there would be interest from Martin.
My best case scenario goes like this: MU would prefer to hire a black HC assuming a guy they believe is qualified is available. That's Martin. They want to interview him, ask some tough questions, not the least of which is will you bolt on us in the next 3 years if the Purdue job opens. At the same time they interview Howland (remember this is my best case scenario). If Martin passes the interview and accepts the details he gets the job. If not he uses the interview to pressure Tenn for more security and more $$. Then they turn and offer the job to Howland. MU rationalizes "We tried to hire a black HC but it didn't work out". Having two guys interview and one guy announced a day or so later looks just fine. Maybe Wardle gets and interview as a courtesy and a marker for next time and more money from UWGB.
when did race have anything to do with this?
Quote from: Ganzer's Source on March 29, 2014, 01:47:49 PM
when did race have anything to do with this?
Is that a serious question?
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 29, 2014, 01:43:23 PM
Keeping in mind that Martin couldn't even discuss the job leave alone interview until his team was out of the tourney I would expect things to get serious now and fast. I assume that Jon Harris (who for sure knows Cords well from his time as a player) has been the back channel to get MU interested and assess that there would be interest from Martin.
My best case scenario goes like this: MU would prefer to hire a black HC assuming a guy they believe is qualified is available. That's Martin. They want to interview him, ask some tough questions, not the least of which is will you bolt on us in the next 3 years if the Purdue job opens. At the same time they interview Howland (remember this is my best case scenario). If Martin passes the interview and accepts the details he gets the job. If not he uses the interview to pressure Tenn for more security and more $$. Then they turn and offer the job to Howland. MU rationalizes "We tried to hire a black HC but it didn't work out". Having two guys interview and one guy announced a day or so later looks just fine. Maybe Wardle gets and interview as a courtesy and a marker for next time and more money from UWGB.
Solid analysis - MU is going to weigh the pros and cons. Seems to me like this is the last candidate they want to feel out before making the final decision.
Purdue is an interesting question. Painter has recruited quite well there. I'm wondering if the past 2 seasons were flukes? They continue to nab top 100 players in recruiting. I'm thinking Painter is their awhile as long as he turns it around next season.
Quote from: XavierFan on March 29, 2014, 01:46:40 PM
and shaka lost to Stephen F Austin ... you guys are obsessed with hiring a big name, which I don't understand considering the success MU has had with assistants ...
That's because there's a lack of intelligence. (see posters that consistently write phrases and short sentences) The people who know what they're talking about typically write complete thoughts, and don't adhere to an ESPN, soap opera mentality.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 29, 2014, 01:47:44 PM
That game being played that you guys are talking about? You're not supposed to talk about that game.
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120908210644/seinfeld/images/c/ce/The_wizard.jpg)
OK, it's time for a reality check.
Of course they're looking at multiple candidates and multiple ideas. Why wouldn't they? Bill Cords was right in that Marquette is a destination program. Sorry Buzz, VaTech was not.
Dudes and dudettes, if you were spending $2.5 million, you'd be taking your jolly-ass time too! Heck, most of the posters on this board would be taking more time than Marquette is if they were spending were $2.50! Many of you are from Wisconsin, after all!
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 29, 2014, 02:03:58 PM
OK, it's time for a reality check.
Of course they're looking at multiple candidates and multiple ideas. Why wouldn't they? Bill Cords was right in that Marquette is a destination program. Sorry Buzz, VaTech was not.
Dudes and dudettes, if you were spending $2.5 million, you'd be taking your jolly-ass time too! Heck, most of the posters on this board would be taking more time than Marquette is if they were spending were $2.50! Many of you are from Wisconsin, after all!
2.5 million? That's a lot of money for Cuonzo !!! Currently, he makes 1.3 million. I don't see MU doubling his salary. 1.7 million/year with incentives seems appropriate for a man who was just on the hot seat. Granted, I don't think they should hire a guy who was a shot away from not making the NCAA tourney.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 29, 2014, 01:43:23 PM
Keeping in mind that Martin couldn't even discuss the job leave alone interview until his team was out of the tourney I would expect things to get serious now and fast. I assume that Jon Harris (who for sure knows Cords well from his time as a player) has been the back channel to get MU interested and assess that there would be interest from Martin.
My best case scenario goes like this: MU would prefer to hire a black HC assuming a guy they believe is qualified is available. That's Martin. They want to interview him, ask some tough questions, not the least of which is will you bolt on us in the next 3 years if the Purdue job opens. At the same time they interview Howland (remember this is my best case scenario). If Martin passes the interview and accepts the details he gets the job. If not he uses the interview to pressure Tenn for more security and more $$. Then they turn and offer the job to Howland. MU rationalizes "We tried to hire a black HC but it didn't work out". Having two guys interview and one guy announced a day or so later looks just fine. Maybe Wardle gets and interview as a courtesy and a marker for next time and more money from UWGB.
Ben is my guy, simple as that.
But, it would be pretty funny if Cuonzo saved $1.3MM by leaving Tennessee this coming Tuesday instead of Monday. (Which realistically probably would save MU $1.3MM or thereabouts.)
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 29, 2014, 02:08:33 PM
2.5 million? That's a lot of money for Cuonzo !!! Currently, he makes 1.3 million. I don't see MU doubling his salary. 1.7 million/year with incentives seems appropriate for a man who was just on the hot seat. Granted, I don't think they should hire a guy who was a shot away from not making the NCAA tourney.
Those numbers get thrown around loosely, but - I think $1.8M to $2.0M sounds within reason... whereas $2.5M guaranteed would not.
There are details that change how people would look at some contracts if they knew the details.. an example here is that Martin has an extreme easy APR target to reach and pocket extra earnings each year at UT. Some incentives are "gimmes"... almost guaranteed, but just at risk a tiny bit.
The devil is usually in the details. VERY true with college coaching contracts.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 29, 2014, 02:09:25 PM
Ben is my guy, simple as that.
But, it would be pretty funny if Cuonzo saved $1.3MM by leaving Tennessee this coming Tuesday instead of Monday. (Which realistically probably would save MU $1.3MM or thereabouts.)
I agree. Ben seems better than Cuonzo to me. Cuonzo seems like a huge risk that could back fire. At least with Howland, you already know what you are getting - Top Notch Defense and solid recruits.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 29, 2014, 02:13:43 PM
I agree. Ben seems better than Cuonzo to me. Cuonzo seems like a huge risk that could back fire. At least with Howland, you already know what you are getting - Top Notch Defense and solid recruits.
I'm willing to bet at this point there would be little parity in recruiting between Howland and Martin. Martin is younger, easy to relate to and Howland is no longer at UCLA.
Quote from: Ganzer's Source on March 29, 2014, 01:47:49 PM
when did race have anything to do with this?
Thank you so much for putting that line in your signature.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 29, 2014, 02:16:53 PM
I'm willing to bet at this point there would be little parity in recruiting between Howland and Martin. Martin is younger, easy to relate to and Howland is no longer at UCLA.
You can't judge recruiting ability by the age of the person. There are just too many older coaches out there that debunk that theory. Plus, Cuonzo's recruiting hasn't been the greatest most of his recruits are 2-3 stars, with about two 4-5 star recruits. That's going over a 3 year period. Howland's recruiting record was better @ Pitt than Cuonzo's Tennessee recruits.
Ok, If Howland is the guy, who fills out his staff besides Wainwright???
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 29, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
UT barely made the tourney. I give Martin credit for getting them to last night, but they barely squeaked in the field. This after two NIT's.
And we're hot for Martin, why exactly?
Someone please explain this? He's no more qualified than Wardle.
Three years in the SEC isn't more qualified than Brian Wardle.
Quote from: miggs0721 on March 29, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
Ok, If Howland is the guy, who fills out his staff besides Wainwright???
Wainwright will not been the staff. But this is what I find commical about the comments that Howland won't be able to recruit because he's a wrinkled up old white guy. Nobody has any idea who will be in his staff. Who will he bring in to recruit. That talk is just silly.
Quote from: miggs0721 on March 29, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
Ok, If Howland is the guy, who fills out his staff besides Wainwright???
Korey McCray? That was his last assistant @ UCLA. He's recruited some decent guys.
I wonder if Maymons Dad gonna help us get their coach. Lol.
Quote from: Nevada233 on March 29, 2014, 02:38:36 PM
I wonder if Maymons Dad gonna help us get their coach. Lol.
:D I'm sure Maymon's dad is telling everyone that he probably has something to do with it. I don't think I've ever heard of a guy that thinks more of himself. My guess is that Maymon will play overseas in Europe. The funny thing will be that if Maymon's dad goes to Europe, he's going to have a tough time talking to people that don't speak English. Then again.... I think most people just tuned him out anyways!
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 29, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
:D I'm sure Maymon's dad is telling everyone that he probably has something to do with it. I don't think I've ever heard of a guy that thinks more of himself. My guess is that Maymon will play overseas in Europe. The funny thing will be that if Maymon's dad goes to Europe, he's going to have a tough time talking to people that don't speak English. Then again.... I think most people just tuned him out anyways!
Maymons dad thought Jerrone was Tim Duncan. . .
If his dad goes to europe he wont be there long.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 29, 2014, 02:13:43 PM
I agree. Ben seems better than Cuonzo to me. Cuonzo seems like a huge risk that could back fire. At least with Howland, you already know what you are getting - Top Notch Defense and solid recruits.
Holy shite Deane! That's common sense talking!!
Howland is a Cadillac waiting to be driven into the garage.
Unless this Martin is a misguided ruse to try and lower Howlands price, the reward is not worth the risk. Get Howland here. IMHO. He is by far my guy. More prepared than Martin, pedigreed and a proven winner.
Martin is not worth the risk vs Howland.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 29, 2014, 01:38:17 PM
Yes, it's good to hear from a national source that Howland is still in the mix.
Hey what do I know but IMHO Howland is very interested and a no brainer. What am I missing? Truly the only consistent national level winner. Geter down MU.
Players that quit and hated Howland.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 29, 2014, 01:43:23 PM
Keeping in mind that Martin couldn't even discuss the job leave alone interview until his team was out of the tourney I would expect things to get serious now and fast. I assume that Jon Harris (who for sure knows Cords well from his time as a player) has been the back channel to get MU interested and assess that there would be interest from Martin.
My best case scenario goes like this: MU would prefer to hire a black HC assuming a guy they believe is qualified is available. That's Martin. They want to interview him, ask some tough questions, not the least of which is will you bolt on us in the next 3 years if the Purdue job opens. At the same time they interview Howland (remember this is my best case scenario). If Martin passes the interview and accepts the details he gets the job. If not he uses the interview to pressure Tenn for more security and more $$. Then they turn and offer the job to Howland. MU rationalizes "We tried to hire a black HC but it didn't work out". Having two guys interview and one guy announced a day or so later looks just fine. Maybe Wardle gets and interview as a courtesy and a marker for next time and more money from UWGB.
Q: "Mr. Martin---would you ever leave MU for a school such as Purdue if the job became available in say 3 year?"
A: "No way. Never. I will stay at MU as long as they will have me."
I'm satisfied.
Quote from: miggs0721 on March 29, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
Ok, If Howland is the guy, who fills out his staff besides Wainwright???
With Howland's past accomplishments and the money MU has been willing to pay other assistants, his staff would not be a concern. Dude didn't win a bunch of conference championships and tournament games by being unable to hire assistants....
What the f____ is the hold up??
Sit down with Howland and get our coach.
Hmmm tough choice Ben Howland or Cuonzo friggin Martin. Man what idiots.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 29, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
What the f____ is the hold up??
Sit down with Howland and get our coach.
Hmmm tough choice Ben Howland or Cuonzo friggin Martin. Man what idiots.
+1. Yep, I hear Boeheim, K, Pitino, Roy, Larry Brown, Beilein, Bo, and Huggins all struggle to get recruits because they're old and white. And while they have assistants to help with recruiting, Howland will not be allowed any. Amateur hour.
But oh, and did you see that SI article?
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2014, 02:51:27 PM
Holy crape Deane! That's common sense talking!!
Howland is a Cadillac waiting to be driven into the garage.
Unless this Martin is a misguided ruse to try and lower Howlands price, the reward is not worth the risk. Get Howland here. IMHO. He is by far my guy. More prepared than Martin, pedigreed and a proven winner.
Martin is not worth the risk vs Howland.
I concur. I think MU is pulling Martin in to put pressure on Howland to lower his price. Either way, MU should investigate and talk to all candidates on their list. MU can sit back for a week or two still. Clearly, none of the other programs with open coaching positions are worth taking. MU is the top spot, so we do have the luxury of making a well thought out, business decision.
It appears we do have time.
But... And here's where people miss the point - someone could swoop in and get Howland. There are SO few people ever as qualified... That's the rub. The fear of losing him.
That's why I'm a drama queen to get him locked up now and to stop dickin around.
I am glad his name hasn't been floated anywhere else I guess.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on March 29, 2014, 01:42:01 PM
Someone on a previous blog mentioned----PETE GILLEN, he is a solid coach, would be a darn good fit. Stability.
He's 66 years old and hasn't coached in over a decade. Pass.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
It appears we do have time.
But... And here's where people miss the point - someone could swoop in and get Howland. There are SO few people ever as qualified... That's the rub. The fear of losing him.
That's why I'm a drama queen to get him locked up now and to stop dickin around.
I am glad his name hasn't been floated anywhere else I guess.
Spot on.
As or right now, along with here; you have the Wake, Boston College, Washington State, possibly UNLV (if Dave Rice takes the USF offer) and USF (if he doesn't). I've heard Howland's name associated with every single one of them. He is the hot chick at the prom who wants to dance with us first, but if the powers that be don't act soon, she will be dancing elsewhere.
Sorry but once Shaka said no, it should be Howland or bust. Martin wouldn't be a horrible hire but he wouldn't exactly bring me to a high level of excitement. Yes, I am aware he made the Sweet 16 this year. He also beat an Iowa team that played like complete crap down the stretch, a grossly overseeded UMass and Mercer. He has been otherwise mediocre in his career.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
It appears we do have time.
But... And here's where people miss the point - someone could swoop in and get Howland. There are SO few people ever as qualified... That's the rub. The fear of losing him.
That's why I'm a drama queen to get him locked up now and to stop dickin around.
I am glad his name hasn't been floated anywhere else I guess.
Those other programs aren't going to pony up 2+ million for a coach. Don't forget, we outspend them all. Howland is just playing offense and getting his name associated with those schools to force MU to pay a higher price and make a move. Remember, it was reported that Howland was interested in the MU job, first.
The UT coaching staff has been in contact with its incoming recruiting class about Martin being linked to the Marquette opening, one of UT's four 2014 signees, who requested anonymity, told the News Sentinel on Saturday. The player said staff members have told signees through text messages that they look forward to coaching the signees and that the signees should "ignore the rumors" about Martin.
http://m.govolsxtra.com/news/2014/mar/29/report-marquette-targeting-tennessees-cuonzo-for/
Quote from: ScoopReader on March 29, 2014, 04:37:37 PM
The UT coaching staff has been in contact with its incoming recruiting class about Martin being linked to the Marquette opening, one of UT's four 2014 signees, who requested anonymity, told the News Sentinel on Saturday. The player said staff members have told signees through text messages that they look forward to coaching the signees and that the signees should "ignore the rumors" about Martin.
http://m.govolsxtra.com/news/2014/mar/29/report-marquette-targeting-tennessees-cuonzo-for/
You can take that 2 ways.....
A. It's not happening
B. Don't fly off the handle and stir up more controversy while Martin is schmoozed by MU.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
It appears we do have time.
But... And here's where people miss the point - someone could swoop in and get Howland. There are SO few people ever as qualified... That's the rub. The fear of losing him.
That's why I'm a drama queen to get him locked up now and to stop dickin around.
I am glad his name hasn't been floated anywhere else I guess.
What if it went like this?...
Ben: I luv MU. go Warriors.
MU: We need to do our due diligence on others, but we think you are our guy. New Pres, we're talking to AD's, etc.. unusual situation for us and for various reasons we need to at least consider/explore a bit more.. but we think you are our guy.
Ben: Great. I can wait. I will tell you before I get close to accepting elsewhere if things unfold that way, but MU is where I want to be.
MU: Excellent. Soon, my man, soon. Leeeggggooooo!
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...
..
MU hires Ben. Warriors back to tourney in 2014-15.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 29, 2014, 07:05:02 PM
What if it went like this?...
Ben: I luv MU. go Warriors.
MU: We need to do our due diligence on others, but we think you are our guy. New Pres, we're talking to AD's, etc.. unusual situation for us and for various reasons we need to at least consider/explore a bit more.. but we think you are our guy.
Ben: Great. I can wait. I will tell you before I get close to accepting elsewhere if things unfold that way, but MU is where I want to be.
MU: Excellent. Soon, my man, soon. Leeeggggooooo!
......
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...
..
MU hires Ben. Warriors back to tourney in 2014-15.
Probably pretty close to the truth. If MU is truly interested in Ben, he knows how things stand.
Could have gone:
Ben: Hey guys! Sorry about your coach but I'm really interested in the job.
Marquette: Appreciate it, but the SI article and way you deal with players scares us away. We are going a different direction.
Ben: Ok, I want too much money anyways. I'm pulling my name out.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
It appears we do have time.
But... And here's where people miss the point - someone could swoop in and get Howland. There are SO few people ever as qualified... That's the rub. The fear of losing him.
Who has a job opening comparable to MU that we should fear?
Ben wants the job, people. He's not going to run off to Marshall with the MU job still open.
Or better yet.....
(Yesterday)
Ben - hey Mr Cords. I see you have a new president and you will be acting AD for a year now, right?
cords - yep. That's right.
Ben - soooooooooooooo
Cords - soooo what?!
Ben - soooo bite me. I'm off to Wake.
Cords - alrighty then. We look forward to hiring a mediocre coach next month. We are. Mar-quette.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2014, 07:43:13 PM
Or better yet.....
(Yesterday)
Ben - hey Mr Cords. I see you have a new president and you will be acting AD for a year now, right?
cords - yep. That's right.
Ben - soooooooooooooo
Cords - soooo what?!
Ben - soooo bite me. I'm off to Wake.
Cords - alrighty then. We look forward to hiring a mediocre coach next month. We are. Mar-quette.
Ben: "I'm off to Wake."
Bill: "Oh, have they interviewed you?"
Ben: "No."
Bill: "But you're at the top of their list?"
Ben: "Well, um, not that I've heard."
Bill: "But they're moving swiftly on their coaching search?"
Ben: "Not exactly. Their AD was quoted as saying not to expect a hire anytime soon."
Bill: "Oh, I see. Well, good luck with that."
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 29, 2014, 07:05:02 PM
What if it went like this?...
Ben: I luv MU. go Warriors.
MU: We need to do our due diligence on others, but we think you are our guy. New Pres, we're talking to AD's, etc.. unusual situation for us and for various reasons we need to at least consider/explore a bit more.. but we think you are our guy.
Ben: Great. I can wait. I will tell you before I get close to accepting elsewhere if things unfold that way, but MU is where I want to be.
MU: Excellent. Soon, my man, soon. Leeeggggooooo!
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MU hires Ben. Warriors back to tourney win the BE, BET, and national title in 2014-15.
In the words of the Scoop Poet Laureate, "Aim high, Marquette."
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 29, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
Don't forget that he didn't show up to coach the game last night, until the 2nd half.
That makes him the ideal candidate to replace Buzz, right?
Wait...did I see Pete Gillen mentioned?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 29, 2014, 08:20:35 PM
Wait...did I see Pete Gillen mentioned?
If folks are into liberal timeout usage, he's a great option.