http://mrsec.com/2014/03/martins-last-stand-tennessee-vol-coach-plenty-reasons-bolt/
Again, must I reiterate that the man has never recruited any 4 star players? He continually recruits 3 star guys. Why would MU want someone that cannot land top 100 players? He has Bruce Pearl's recruits as seniors on this team, so the team is not his per say.
No thanks. We don't need a regression of talent.
He doesn't have a single 2015 recruit. Looking back, if I have my dates right, he's topped out at 3 star recruits.
THIS is what we want over Howland?
Plus
Purdue grad
Purdue's current coach just took his team to 12th place in a 12 team league...two straight non NCAA appearances.
4 & 5-stars don't go to the SEC unless it is Florida or Kentucky.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
Plus
Purdue grad
Purdue's current coach just took his team to 12th place in a 12 team league...two straight non NCAA appearances.
Also in a long line of average Purdue assistants...Weber, Stallings, Lavin, and Painter.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
Plus
Purdue grad
Purdue's current coach just took his team to 12th place in a 12 team league...two straight non NCAA appearances.
CBB, you've posted this in other threads as well. Are you saying Painter's on the hot seat, and Martin might bolt for his alma mater when it happens? Otherwise, I don't understand the relevance.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
Again, must I reiterate that the man has never recruited any 4 star players?
He has Phil Cofer coming in next year, who is a 4 star on ESPN. I would take him.
Quote from: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Also in a long line of average Purdue assistants...Weber, Stallings, Lavin, and Painter.
I think Stallings has done just fine. Coaching at Vanderbilt with their requirements is not easy and they have always had a competitive program. Weber has been good as well, but certainly not great.
Martin would be as much of a disappointment of a hire as Wardle or Weber.
I'd be perfectly content with Martin. Took Missouri State from bottom feeder to conference champion. Took the mess left by Bruce Pearl, overachieved each of the past two years (contrary to what Tennessee fans will tell you), and made the sweet 16 this year. Plus his top two assistants are midwest guys.
Damn it. Can't believe I signed up for an account. Here goes my life until a coach is picked.
I pointed my buddy CA to that piece.
Lacking any inside knowledge, I like this guy. I've watched some of their games towards the end of the year (probably because I'm fascinated that Maymon's fat ass is still playing) and they seem like a tough bunch.
More importantly, he's young, black and has professional playing experience. If he can relate to players and vice versa, that bodes well for retaining the talent from 2013's class and this falls'. Normally, I'd say not much of a big deal but Duane Wilson, Deonte and the kids we have signed could carry our program for the next few years. After that, maybe Martin's recruiting improves (if you operate under the assumption that it's not great now).
Howland, on the other hand, could scare some players away with nasty stories out of UCLA (BS or not). I also don't like the whispers of his salary demands. I don't want this guy enough to pay him Shaka money.
Of course he is ripe for the picking. He was on the hot seat just weeks ago.
I believe Martin also recruited Robert Hubbs...5 star. Not that I am in the Martin camp.....yet.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/tennessee/basketball/recruiting/player-Robert-Hubbs-129502;_ylt=AvkseGcx9iW.z34TKoTNIIqbt5B4
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
Again, must I reiterate that the man has never recruited any 4 star players? He continually recruits 3 star guys. Why would MU want someone that cannot land top 100 players? He has Bruce Pearl's recruits as seniors on this team, so the team is not his per say.
No thanks. We don't need a regression of talent.
Phil Cofer is a 4 star for his 2014 class.
Robert Hubbs was a consensus top 50 player in his 2013 class. He was the #4 SG in the class (JJJ was #3).
Rawane Ndiaye was a top JUCO in his 2013 class.
But other than that, all three star players. And he's in the Sweet 16. He also turned around a dismal Missouri State team.
You are right, his recruiting resume doesn't astound me, but he has never had access to our resources.
He's not my top pick (I think Danny Manning is my top pick) but I think he could turn out great.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 28, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
I'd be perfectly content with Martin. Took Missouri State from bottom feeder to conference champion. Took the mess left by Bruce Pearl, overachieved each of the past two years (contrary to what Tennessee fans will tell you), and made the sweet 16 this year. Plus his top two assistants are midwest guys.
Exactly
Better run. The 1000+ post people are gonna come crucify you..j/k
He might be ripe and might get picked.
Quote from: AshyLarry on March 28, 2014, 04:21:04 PM
I believe Martin also recruited Robert Hubbs...5 star. Not that I am in the Martin camp.....yet.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/tennessee/basketball/recruiting/player-Robert-Hubbs-129502;_ylt=AvkseGcx9iW.z34TKoTNIIqbt5B4
Looks like I missed That's the only top 100 player he's recruited in what, 3 years? ESPN has him @ 4 star. He has 2 star recruits on his resume as well..... that scares me.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
Plus
Purdue grad
Purdue's current coach just took his team to 12th place in a 12 team league...two straight non NCAA appearances.
Purdue grad, huh? Aren't you a Boilermaker, too? Or...wait...was that Hoopaloop?
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbuZjNNQGBlFv2pR-0B2psUVeXe7MlLnxe2QLUolZTODgXhYoGdg)
Hmm...Danny Manning. At a glance, he would appear to meet my criteria of possibly being able to retain current players and possibly recruits. Perhaps, more so than Martin.
Manning's a Kansas guy but I don't think Bill Self is going anywhere soon.
I'm putting these two at the top of my somewhat uninformed list.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
I think Stallings has done just fine. Coaching at Vanderbilt with their requirements is not easy and they have always had a competitive program. Weber has been good as well, but certainly not great.
+1. I've always liked Stallings. My wife is from Bloomington-Normal in central Illinois (ISU campus is there) and the population still raves about his coaching job at Illinois State from 93-99. I'd say he's a close second to Doug Collins down there as far as ISU notoriety.
Sidenote: remember when he brought his Vandy team into Milwaukee a few years back and absolutely torched us? That was brutal.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 28, 2014, 04:13:39 PM
Martin would be as much of a disappointment of a hire as Wardle or Weber.
Yep, as much of a disappointment...and none of the stability if we happen to be wrong.
So lots of potential downside, and no upside because he'd bolt when something bigger comes along. If we're going to settle for mediocrity, might as well be an assistant who hasn't failed (yet).
There is a danger with hiring the hot commodity this late in March.
A very real danger...
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 28, 2014, 04:52:18 PM
There is a danger with hiring the hot commodity this late in March.
A very real danger...
What danger do you speak of?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:27:50 PM
Looks like I missed That's the only top 100 player he's recruited in what, 3 years? ESPN has him @ 4 star. He has 2 star recruits on his resume as well..... that scares me.
No, you missed their best player, Jarnell Stokes. Stokes was a Five Star recruit, who graduated high school in December, 2012. He immediately joined UT in January. Stokes would have been a top 10 recruit in the class of 2013 if he would have stayed in high school.
Didn't Cuonzo Martin recruit Jarnell Stokes as well? He was a 5-star by some recruiting services.
Quote from: nyg on March 28, 2014, 04:54:49 PM
No, you missed their best player, Jarnell Stokes. Stokes was a Five Star recruit, who graduated high school in December, 2012. He immediately joined UT in January. Stokes would have been a top 10 recruit in the class of 2013 if he would have stayed in high school.
Exactly
Quote from: meehld26 on March 28, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
Didn't Cuonzo Martin recruit Jarnell Stokes as well? He was a 5-star by some recruiting services.
Yeap
Quote from: rabid652 on March 28, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
Hmm...Danny Manning. At a glance, he would appear to meet my criteria of possibly being able to retain current players and possibly recruits. Perhaps, more so than Martin.
Manning's a Kansas guy but I don't think Bill Self is going anywhere soon.
I'm putting these two at the top of my somewhat uninformed list.
I wouldn't worry so much about where coaches may or may not go in the future. Let's face it, no matter who MU hires, if that coach is successful, he's probably gone in about five years.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 04:57:03 PM
I wouldn't worry so much about where coaches may or may not go in the future. Let's face it, no matter who MU hires, if that coach is successful, he's probably gone in about five years.
Yeap, thats been the trend.
Quote from: meehld26 on March 28, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
Didn't Cuonzo Martin recruit Jarnell Stokes as well? He was a 5-star by some recruiting services.
I'm beginning to change my mind about Martin. I would be worried about Purdue, though. Painter is one of the highest paid coaches in the NCAA and hasn't earned his keep @ 1.7 million/year. Martin might want to bolt for Purdue... if that ever happens.
I'm interested in Martin.... but I'm still wary of him and some of his recruits.
Cuonzo Martin has Tennessee ranked 7th in kenpom ratings, is 17th in adjusted offense and 15th in adjusted defense. He's also recruited 2 5-star players to Tennessee in 3 years, but he hasn't landed the depth of top 100 recruits that we've seen Bazz land. He will also have way more resources and support in Milwaukee.
I understand being skeptical but every coach has flaws. There isn't a perfect coach out there who everyone will agree on. He might not be my 1st choice, but if MU ends up hiring Martin I won't be banging my head against the wall.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
Again, must I reiterate that the man has never recruited any 4 star players? He continually recruits 3 star guys. Why would MU want someone that cannot land top 100 players? He has Bruce Pearl's recruits as seniors on this team, so the team is not his per say.
No thanks. We don't need a regression of talent.
Again, read between the lines... our current players and recruits are fond of this candidate as HC. Nothing ensures future success like continued success.
Quote from: meehld26 on March 28, 2014, 06:00:21 PM
Cuonzo Martin has Tennessee ranked 7th in kenpom ratings, is 17th in adjusted offense and 15th in adjusted defense. He's also recruited 2 5-star players to Tennessee in 3 years, but he hasn't landed the depth of top 100 recruits that we've seen Bazz land. He will also have way more resources and support in Milwaukee.
I understand being skeptical but every coach has flaws. There isn't a perfect coach out there who everyone will agree on. He might not be my 1st choice, but if MU ends up hiring Martin I won't be banging my head against the wall.
I half-heartedly agree. I guess I could live with Martin. I could warm up to him. The guys who would absolutely drive me to jump out a window are Wardle...Jeter...Weber...or any assistant.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
I half-heartedly agree. I guess I could live with Martin. I could warm up to him. The guys who would absolutely drive me to jump out a window are Wardle...Jeter...Weber...or any assistant.
On that, we can full-heartedly agree
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:27:50 PM
Looks like I missed That's the only top 100 player he's recruited in what, 3 years? ESPN has him @ 4 star. He has 2 star recruits on his resume as well..... that scares me.
So, is your point that he is a great coach cuz he's in the Sweet 16 with mostly two star players?
I'm in camp Martin
Quote from: rabid652 on March 28, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
Hmm...Danny Manning. At a glance, he would appear to meet my criteria of possibly being able to retain current players and possibly recruits. Perhaps, more so than Martin.
Manning's a Kansas guy but I don't think Bill Self is going anywhere soon.
I'm putting these two at the top of my somewhat uninformed list.
Credited with developing this line of bigs: Darrel Arthur, Darnell Jackson, Cole Aldrich, the Morris twins, Thomas Robinson, Jeff Withey. Granted those were all highly regarded recruits, but for KU to bat 1.000 on them is pretty astonishing.
BrewCity did a nice piece on Martin over at BCB and I'm in the Martin camp.
I really think a strong African-American coach is what Marquette needs. He's got the coaching chops, he turned Pearl's poop-pile into a winner quickly and he'll be coming off a Sweet 16.
Not bad at all, especially considering he's probably accomplished as much as Shaka if you take away his fluke Final Four.
Quote from: PTM on March 28, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
BrewCity did a nice piece on Martin over at BCB and I'm in the Martin camp.
I really think a strong African-American coach is what Marquette needs. He's got the coaching chops, he turned Pearl's poop-pile into a winner quickly and he'll be coming off a Sweet 16.
Not bad at all, especially considering he's probably accomplished as much as Shaka if you take away his fluke Final Four.
cue the VCWho roaches in 3.....2......1.....
Well at least Martin's team plays defense like Buzz's tonight. Lets give up those open threes and foul a three point shot. Michigan looking good.
Quote from: Eldon on March 28, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
cue the VCWho roaches in 3.....2......1.....
That's cool, hard to argue they belonged in the tournament. Bilas'd.
Still wanted Shaka though, it was just too sexy. So close.
Martin will have to learn when to call a TO. Ouch.
Quote from: windyplayer on March 28, 2014, 04:30:36 PM
+1. I've always liked Stallings. My wife is from Bloomington-Normal in central Illinois (ISU campus is there) and the population still raves about his coaching job at Illinois State from 93-99. I'd say he's a close second to Doug Collins down there as far as ISU notoriety.
Sidenote: remember when he brought his Vandy team into Milwaukee a few years back and absolutely torched us? That was brutal.
Isn't he another legend like Stew Morril?
Martin's team doesn't look like it's that disciplined on defense at all. I'm not impressed. He's getting out-coached. Tennessee looks lazy at times in the half court defense. There just doesn't seem to be much continuity at all. They look lost !!! With a team that is quick and long as Tennessee, your strength should be guarding the perimeter.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 28, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
I'd be perfectly content with Martin. Took Missouri State from bottom feeder to conference champion. Took the mess left by Bruce Pearl, overachieved each of the past two years (contrary to what Tennessee fans will tell you), and made the sweet 16 this year. Plus his top two assistants are midwest guys.
+100
For anyone who thinks Wardle is on Martin's level....sorry....if Brian isn't an MU alum....his name isn't even anywhere near the list. Martin is coaching in SEC. Has team in Sweet 16. And all of the above are relevant points.
Read the article...and they take away private jets for him to recruit...due to boosters getting frustrated? Far less support for him than what he'd have at MU...and I like a coach with a chip on his shoulder..
I've heard players love playing for him. Also, he was an assistant at Purdue for 8 years. He had a hand in recruiting Hummel, Moore, and the other JuJuan Johnson. Also, played for the Bucks. He's not the sexy hire that Shaka was, but I think he can be as good or better X's and O's guy than Shaka. The Pomeroy numbers for Tennessee are very encouraging. Also, Michigan blew the doors off VCU last year too.
Below is a video. I know I'm reaching (this is probably a coach's version of a recruit highlight video), but he seems like a guy who can relate with players.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nDL2yYBKeY0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nDL2yYBKeY0)
This sounds like people are talking themselves into settling for less than an impact hire.
Quote from: nyg on March 28, 2014, 06:51:35 PM
Well at least Martin's team plays defense like Buzz's tonight. Lets give up those open threes and foul a three point shot. Michigan looking good.
Yep, terrible job with X's and O's and fundamentals tonight, so MU will be all over him.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 07:28:18 PM
Yep, terrible job with X's and O's and fundamentals tonight, so MU will be all over him.
Especially if he sucks with his rotations.
I guess you'll find out soon how interested MU is in Cuonzo. I don't know for sure but I bet Tennessee fans don't mind MU taking him off their hands. That's usually a tell tell sign.
Quote from: MARQCAT on March 28, 2014, 06:03:52 PM
Again, read between the lines... our current players and recruits are fond of this candidate as HC. Nothing ensures future success like continued success.
Where has it been reported the current Marquette players want to play for Martin?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
Again, must I reiterate that the man has never recruited any 4 star players? He continually recruits 3 star guys. Why would MU want someone that cannot land top 100 players? He has Bruce Pearl's recruits as seniors on this team, so the team is not his per say.
No thanks. We don't need a regression of talent.
Hubbs is a 5 with Rivals and Cofer was a 4 with ESPN.
I was all about Shaka and then Howland. I also know jack crap about basketball other than I love MU and get swept up with the "it guys." I knew nothing about Martin until earlier today but have been reading some articles and can honestly say he sounds like he would be a great fit. It seems like a lot of the complaints that Vols fans had (besides more losses than they would like) were about his low key personality.
I, for one, would love a coach that doesn't come off as a used car salesman. I thought we had that with Buzz before his shtick became obvious.
I think that Martin would come with a chip on his shoulder after how he's been treated down in TN.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 28, 2014, 07:39:10 PM
Where has it been reported the current Marquette players want to play for Martin?
I am not aware of anywhere outside of Scoop. I am just reading what is being posted here by reputable souls. Try the Goodman's ESPN article thread. I could be wrong, but trust those in charge of the search would only be targeting him if he was a good fit with current and future prospects. I also like the fact that Jerry Wainwright is around to help shepherd him a bit (and hope he will if Martin comes). No question, I would rather Shaka, but I think this Martin guy could do a lot for us if given the right support.
Quote from: MARQCAT on March 28, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
I am not aware of anywhere outside of Scoop. I am just reading what is being posted here by reputable souls. Try the Goodman's ESPN article thread. I could be wrong, but trust those in charge of the search would only be targeting him if he was a good fit with current and future prospects. I also like the fact that Jerry Wainwright is around to help shepherd him a bit (and hope he will if Martin comes). No question, I would rather Shaka, but I think this Martin guy could do a lot for us if given the right support.
I don't want a coach at MU that needs help. It's getting to the point of absurdity if Cuonzo Martin is a serious candidate.
Howland knows what he's doing and has done nothing but win. Just give him the job and end this nonsense.
Martin would be as big a reach as Wardle.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 08:05:02 PM
I don't want a coach at MU that needs help. It's getting to the point of absurdity if Cuonzo Martin is a serious candidate.
Howland knows what he's doing and has done nothing but win. Just give him the job and end this nonsense.
Martin would be as big a reach as Wardle.
Lmao. Okay, Ben.
For those not watching. Tenn. is doing its best to get back in this.
Quote from: PTM on March 28, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
BrewCity did a nice piece on Martin over at BCB and I'm in the Martin camp.
I really think a strong African-American coach is what Marquette needs. He's got the coaching chops, he turned Pearl's poop-pile into a winner quickly and he'll be coming off a Sweet 16.
Not bad at all, especially considering he's probably accomplished as much as Shaka if you take away his fluke Final Four.
Looks like the spin has started!
Martin was pretty much called out by the color guy on CBS for that terrible last play when they could have won the game.
now he's free
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
Lmao. Okay, Ben.
Or Brian....I can't decide....this guy has been critical of everyone other than Wardle and Howland - and those two aren't even in the same league...not sure why you'd advocate Wardle if you want Howland...
And as for that poster saying Wardle is in Cuonzo's league...tell him to come talk to us once Wardle gets just 1 team to the NCAA tourney, much less a Sweet 16..
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 08:24:58 PM
Martin was pretty much called out by the color guy on CBS for that terrible last play when they could have won the game.
No, it was Stokes for not kicking it out to McCrae at free throw line wide open. Levert had left him to double Stokes. Stokes makes pass, might have ended different.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 08:24:58 PM
Martin was pretty much called out by the color guy on CBS for that terrible last play when they could have won the game.
That was all on Stokes!!
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
Or Brian....I can't decide....this guy has been critical of everyone other than Wardle and Howland - and those two aren't even in the same league...not sure why you'd advocate Wardle if you want Howland...
And as for that poster saying Wardle is in Cuonzo's league...tell him to come talk to us once Wardle gets just 1 team to the NCAA tourney, much less a Sweet 16..
I've said before my top choice is Marshall, followed by Howland and then Smart.
Wardle shouldn't even be in the conversation. Neither should Martin.
I just love how everyone wants to speculate but doesn't bring up how Cuonzo was out-coached. If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins. Tennessee couldn't make adjustments in the first half which contributed to their demise. While they were patient in the 2nd half, it just wasn't enough.
Tennessee sure has a lot of athleticism. It's too bad it's not coached to play defense. This team had the potential to be in the final four if the coach would stress fundamental defense.
If I'm MU, I don't make the call to this guy. The talent that is on the court for Tennessee doesn't match the end result. They should be better, more efficient.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 08:34:16 PM
I've said before my top choice is Marshall, followed by Howland and then Smart.
Wardle shouldn't even be in the conversation. Neither should Martin.
Marshall cant recruit man..he even said it himself that he dont even go after FOUR or FIVE star players. I'll pass!
we could do a lot worse than martin. seems like a class act, with a solid past. if cords and co. feel good enough about him, he'd surely have my support. i still think i'd prefer howland, but i'm good with either one.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
I just love how everyone wants to speculate but doesn't bring up how Cuonzo was out-coached. If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins. Tennessee couldn't make adjustments in the first half which contributed to their demise. While they were patient in the 2nd half, it just wasn't enough.
Tennessee sure has a lot of athleticism. It's too bad it's not coached to play defense. This team had the potential to be in the final four if the coach would stress fundamental defense.
If I'm MU, I don't make the call to this guy. The talent that is on the court for Tennessee doesn't match the end result. They should be better, more efficient.
"If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins" LOL c'mon maaaaan
Quote from: avid1010 on March 28, 2014, 08:36:40 PM
we could do a lot worse than martin. seems like a class act, with a solid past. if cords and co. feel good enough about him, he'd surely have my support. i still think i'd prefer howland, but i'm good with either one.
Man, I been on the Cuonzo train for the longest. He never had a fair shake at Tennessee because of what they had with Pearl!!
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 08:38:29 PM
"If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins" LOL c'mon maaaaan
Actually, that last set play was very Buzz-like in that it was screwed up from the get-go.
I don't know how good of a recruiter Martin is, but his game coaching isn't at all impressive.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
I just love how everyone wants to speculate but doesn't bring up how Cuonzo was out-coached. If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins. Tennessee couldn't make adjustments in the first half which contributed to their demise. While they were patient in the 2nd half, it just wasn't enough.
Tennessee sure has a lot of athleticism. It's too bad it's not coached to play defense. This team had the potential to be in the final four if the coach would stress fundamental defense.
If I'm MU, I don't make the call to this guy. The talent that is on the court for Tennessee doesn't match the end result. They should be better, more efficient.
If you put Cuonzo in Buzz's spot this season, Marquette goes to the NCAA tournament.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
I just love how everyone wants to speculate but doesn't bring up how Cuonzo was out-coached. If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins. Tennessee couldn't make adjustments in the first half which contributed to their demise. While they were patient in the 2nd half, it just wasn't enough.
Tennessee sure has a lot of athleticism. It's too bad it's not coached to play defense. This team had the potential to be in the final four if the coach would stress fundamental defense.
If I'm MU, I don't make the call to this guy. The talent that is on the court for Tennessee doesn't match the end result. They should be better, more efficient.
Because Buzz was so great at making adjustments this year lol. Btw, congrats on getting to a hundred posts probably faster than anyone in the history of muscoop :o
"If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins" LOL c'mon maaaaan
We wouldn't have even got the inbound pass in!!!! Brent the idiot!!
Quote from: 6kings on March 28, 2014, 08:45:14 PM
"If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins" LOL c'mon maaaaan
We wouldn't have even got the inbound pass in!!!! Brent the idiot!!
EXACTLY!
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 08:38:29 PM
"If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins" LOL c'mon maaaaan
Ohhhh, I'm laughing...... right at you sir !!!
Tennessee was out of sync for a whole half!!! That's inexcusable! Tennessee definitely had the more talented team, yet lost. If adjustments had been made in the first half on defense, the outcome is much different. Tennessee played lazy on defense in the first half! They're not disciplined at all. That's on the coach.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on March 28, 2014, 08:44:46 PM
Because Buzz was so great at making adjustments this year lol. Btw, congrats on getting to a hundred posts probably faster than anyone in the history of muscoop :o
Registered March 26!
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
I just love how everyone wants to speculate but doesn't bring up how Cuonzo was out-coached. If you put Buzz in Cuonzo's spot, Tennessee wins. Tennessee couldn't make adjustments in the first half which contributed to their demise. While they were patient in the 2nd half, it just wasn't enough.
Tennessee sure has a lot of athleticism. It's too bad it's not coached to play defense. This team had the potential to be in the final four if the coach would stress fundamental defense.
If I'm MU, I don't make the call to this guy. The talent that is on the court for Tennessee doesn't match the end result. They should be better, more efficient.
Pretty sure its time to take off those Mike Deane blinders dude! TN is in Top 20 in nation defensively. Michigan is damn good...as was Big 10 this year...likely will have 3 of the Elite 8 after Michigan State tonight.
And as for Buzz coaching?? Did you not watch this past season? More returning letter winners than ever before in his tenure, Big East Pre Season Champ predicted, and didn't even make the damn NIT...
The better question is, if you put Howland in Martin's spot what happens.
Quote from: bean on March 28, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
If you put Cuonzo in Buzz's spot this season, Marquette goes to the NCAA tournament.
Couldnt be more true!!
I favored Pastner, but just mentioned, Howland has won wherever he went. Think he would stabilize our program.Still like Pastner or Cronin. Give anything for one of those two. If not Martin, could be LaVall Jordan.
HOWLAND
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
Ohhhh, I'm laughing...... right at you sir !!!
Tennessee was out of sync for a whole half!!! That's inexcusable! Tennessee definitely had the more talented team, yet lost. If adjustments had been made in the first half on defense, the outcome is much different. Tennessee played lazy on defense in the first half! They're not disciplined at all. That's on the coach.
Man, Cuonzo coached better THIS game than Brent coached ALL season.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 08:34:16 PM
I've said before my top choice is Marshall, followed by Howland and then Smart.
Wardle shouldn't even be in the conversation. Neither should Martin.
Yep. Really sad if we hire Martin or Wardle...or Weber for that matter. Downgrade from Buzz.
You think Martin would play a top 40 freshman??? Wow that's cool!!!
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 08:47:37 PM
Pretty sure its time to take off those Mike Deane blinders dude! TN is in Top 20 in nation defensively. Michigan is damn good...as was Big 10 this year...likely will have 3 of the Elite 8 after Michigan State tonight.
And as for Buzz coaching?? Did you not watch this past season? More returning letter winners than ever before in his tenure, Big East Pre Season Champ predicted, and didn't even make the damn NIT...
Ners, you on point with this one!!
Quote from: Eldon on March 28, 2014, 08:48:13 PM
The better question is, if you put Howland in Martin's spot what happens.
Hehe, you on to something. .
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 08:47:37 PM
Pretty sure its time to take off those Mike Deane blinders dude! TN is in Top 20 in nation defensively. Michigan is damn good...as was Big 10 this year...likely will have 3 of the Elite 8 after Michigan State tonight.
And as for Buzz coaching?? Did you not watch this past season? More returning letter winners than ever before in his tenure, Big East Pre Season Champ predicted, and didn't even make the damn NIT...
LMAO!!! What a poor rebuttal!!! I was talking about the game tonight and you didn't mention one part about it. Did you even watch it? Cuonzo was out-coached buddy... do you even know how to spot someone being out-coached?
Tennessee was longer around the perimeter and it took them until halftime to make adjustments. Those adjustments should have been made in the first half. That is on the coach... Cuonzo lost them that game.
Quote from: My source on March 28, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Registered March 26!
Thank you. Gotta compete with u vets with 1000+ posts. Wow how did u know that?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
LMAO!!! What a poor rebuttal!!! I was talking about the game tonight and you didn't mention one part about it. Did you even watch it? Cuonzo was out-coached buddy... do you even know how to spot someone being out-coached?
Tennessee was longer around the perimeter and it took them until halftime to make adjustments. Those adjustments should have been made in the first half. That is on the coach... Cuonzo lost them that game.
Martin>Brent
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 08:53:12 PM
Thank you. Gotta compete with u vets with 1000+ posts. Wow how did u know that?
Actually referring toMikDeanesDarkGlasses.
You, sir, have actually topped that. Way too much time on your hands.
You do not like Martin. Remember that when MU hires Wardle and pays him twice as much as he is worth.
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on March 28, 2014, 08:44:46 PM
Because Buzz was so great at making adjustments this year lol. Btw, congrats on getting to a hundred posts probably faster than anyone in the history of muscoop :o
At this rate he will have gone from walk-on to all-american in a matter of 4 days.
UPDATE: Just checked DraftExpress and they have the Jazz taking him in the first round. Wow.
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
Oh
Congrats on hitting 150 in 2 days! Sick, but amazing.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
Tennessee definitely had the more talented team, yet lost.
No. Just no. I'm not advocating for Martin to come to MU, but in no way is Tennessee more talented than Michigan.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
LMAO!!! What a poor rebuttal!!! I was talking about the game tonight and you didn't mention one part about it. Did you even watch it? Cuonzo was out-coached buddy... do you even know how to spot someone being out-coached?
Tennessee was longer around the perimeter and it took them until halftime to make adjustments. Those adjustments should have been made in the first half. That is on the coach... Cuonzo lost them that game.
What would the Deanster have done? Thats what I thought buddy keep your nose to the grindstone and you may catch the top of the post list
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 08:55:35 PM
Martin>Brent
Let me know when you're going to put your big boy pants on say something substantial. Martin>Brent ... I can find a middle schooler who can give me a better analysis than that.
Maybe we should start you off slow and have you analyzing "Hank" the Brewers new dog mascot.
Gotta crawl before you walk son!!!
Quote from: bilsu on March 28, 2014, 08:56:40 PM
You do not like Martin. Remember that when MU hires Wardle and pays him twice as much as he is worth.
My top 3 wish list
1. Martin
2. Howland
3. Manning (long shot)
Wardle would be a nightmare
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
Let me know when you're going to put your big boy pants on say something substantial. Martin>Brent ... I can find a middle schooler who can give me a better analysis than that.
Maybe we should start you off slow and have you analyzing "Hank" the Brewers new dog mascot.
Gotta crawl before you walk son!!!
U mad?
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
My top 3 wish list
1. Martin
2. Howland
3. Manning (long shot)
Wardle would be a nightmare
None of the above.
Although Tennessee put forth a valiant effort, in the end it was the "hot" young coach with questionable recruiting ability and a veteran team losing to an older veteran coach with a proven record of recruiting ability and success with a young team.
And of course we all know how important academics are in the SEC too!
Please MU, pass on Martin.
Quote from: cj111 on March 28, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
No. Just no. I'm not advocating for Martin to come to MU, but in no way is Tennessee more talented than Michigan.
Right. Michigan has about 4 nba guys to Tennessee's 1 maybe?
Quote from: Eldon on March 28, 2014, 08:57:46 PM
At this rate he will have gone from walk-on to all-american in a matter of 4 days.
UPDATE: Just checked DraftExpress and they have the Jazz taking him in the first round. Wow.
It's all about the reps.. I like to grind hard.
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:05:21 PM
MY wish list sir.
None of the above is MY wish list.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
LMAO!!! What a poor rebuttal!!! I was talking about the game tonight and you didn't mention one part about it. Did you even watch it? Cuonzo was out-coached buddy... do you even know how to spot someone being out-coached?
Tennessee was longer around the perimeter and it took them until halftime to make adjustments. Those adjustments should have been made in the first half. That is on the coach... Cuonzo lost them that game.
Look dude...you said TN doesn't play good D - they are Top 20 in the country..15th to be exact. And you want to suggest Buzz would have coached better tonight? We were 96th on offense and 80th in defense. Know what TN was in offense? 17th. Michigan was a seed I believe? TN an 11. Michigan should have won the game...
WAnt to talk about adjustments? How did TN cut it to 1 point game with 9 seconds left after trailing by 11 at the half. Seems to me adjustments were made.
Do you want to continue the debate after person after person here just owns you?
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
My top 3 wish list
1. Martin
2. Howland
3. Manning (long shot)
Wardle would be a nightmare
1. No way in hell.
2. YES
3. No.
Wardle - agreed.
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:04:23 PM
Right. Michigan has about 4 nba guys to Tennessee's 1 maybe?
Tennessee killed Michigan in the 2nd half. Michigan shot lights out in the 1st because Tennessee was disorganized on defense. Why didn't Cuonzo make adjustments in the 1st half?
this is a boring thread...the vast majority of it reads "this user is currently ignored"...and that's just two posters.
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 09:06:59 PM
Look dude...you said TN doesn't play good D - they are Top 20 in the country..15th to be exact. And you want to suggest Buzz would have coached better tonight? We were 96th on offense and 80th in defense. Know what TN was in offense? 17th. Michigan was a seed I believe? TN an 11. Michigan should have won the game...
WAnt to talk about adjustments? How did TN cut it to 1 point game with 9 seconds left after trailing by 11 at the half. Seems to me adjustments were made.
Do you want to continue the debate after person after person here just owns you?
I know this is a tough question for you..... but why didn't Cuonzo make defensive adjustments in the 1st half? I will tell you why..... He's not a good coach or maybe he not experienced enough yet. Otherwise, Tennessee was much more atheltic and longer. Once they made adjustments, Michigan was toast. Poor coaching beat Tennessee not Michigan.
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 09:06:59 PM
Look dude...you said TN doesn't play good D - they are Top 20 in the country..15th to be exact. And you want to suggest Buzz would have coached better tonight? We were 96th on offense and 80th in defense. Know what TN was in offense? 17th. Michigan was a seed I believe? TN an 11. Michigan should have won the game...
WAnt to talk about adjustments? How did TN cut it to 1 point game with 9 seconds left after trailing by 11 at the half. Seems to me adjustments were made.
Do you want to continue the debate after person after person here just owns you?
PREACH!
Indeed Michigan should have won. They were the better team! To say that Martin was out coached is laughable. And to say that Brent would have won that game is....im not gonna even say.
Ners, dont even waste your time with him. Its obvious he dont know what he is talking about
Quote from: avid1010 on March 28, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
this is a boring thread...the vast majority of it reads "this user is currently ignored"...and that's just two posters.
MikeDeane will go away after the new coach is hired. hoping....hoping....hoping....
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 28, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
1. No way in hell.
2. YES
3. No.
Wardle - agreed.
Thats your opinion.
Also, I'd shudder to think what a Beilein coached team that shoots the 3 well would do to a Buzz Williams coached defense. Yes, we beat them that one year in an early season tournament, but that team wasn't nearly as good as the last two years Michigan teams.
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
PREACH!
Indeed Michigan should have won. They were the better team! To say that Martin was out coached is laughable. And to say that Brent would have won that game is....im not gonna even say.
Ners, dont even waste your time with him. Its obvious he dont know what he is talking about
Agree - In his view anytime a team trails at any point in time in the game of basketball the coach isn't making proper adjustments. Whatever. I'd say plenty of adjustments were made. TN is NOT that athletic...Maymon and Stokes are heavy on their feet...albeit physical presences...but Michigan with Robinson, Stalskus, Levert, Irvin...those guys all probably play in the NBA one day...
Martin has a lot more to talk with recruits about in this day and age than does Howland - and he just proved this season, as well as the previous 5...he can coach. He's young, played college ball, played in NBA in last 10 years....that stuff reasonates...and now has a Sweet 16 under his belt..
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 28, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Also, I'd shudder to think what a Beilein coached team that shoots the 3 well would do to a Buzz Williams coached defense. Yes, we beat them that one year in an early season tournament, but that team wasn't nearly as good as the last two years Michigan teams.
Brent is overrated. .yea he took us the elite 8 and 2 sweet 16s blah blah blah. I wasnt never a fan of his because he never played his BEST 5 players!
Brent wont last 3 years at VA Tech. Mark my word! Done deal or however yall wanna spin it! Im going to bed!
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:19:49 PM
Brent is overrated. .yea he took us the elite 8 and 2 sweet 16s blah blah blah. I wasnt never a fan of his because he never played his BEST 5 players!
I didn't say that. I think Buzz is a very good coach. Better at X's and O's than he's been given credit for. However, I don't see him going up well against Beilein.
His first 5 years, I think he was great. Last year, not so much. I'm hoping the next coach is able to play freshman more. Buzz was very successful with experienced talent. People mentioned Martin's lack of recruiting (which has been slightly disproven). I saw somewhere a person posted how he usually does pretty well playing freshman.
I think Buzz made things too complex on defense that most freshman couldn't live up to his expectations to get time. I wouldn't mind a simpler scheme that allows players to pick up on it quicker and develop in the system, rather than riding the bench since they can't learn the defense. See Burton early on and JuJuan.
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
Agree - In his view anytime a team trails at any point in time in the game of basketball the coach isn't making proper adjustments. Whatever. I'd say plenty of adjustments were made.
Stunning analysis on the game.... You still haven't explained the drastic differences in the two halves. ....... This forum would be soooo much more interesting if people knew anything about actual basketball.
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
Agree - In his view anytime a team trails at any point in time in the game of basketball the coach isn't making proper adjustments. Whatever. I'd say plenty of adjustments were made. TN is NOT that athletic...Maymon and Stokes are heavy on their feet...albeit physical presences...but Michigan with Robinson, Stalskus, Levert, Irvin...those guys all probably play in the NBA one day...
Martin has a lot more to talk with recruits about in this day and age than does Howland - and he just proved this season, as well as the previous 5...he can coach. He's young, played college ball, played in NBA in last 10 years....that stuff reasonates...and now has a Sweet 16 under his belt..
Howland can make some pretty interesting talk with recruits discussing all the guys that he's put in the NBA. I would think that would resonate pretty strongly.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 28, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
I didn't say that. I think Buzz is a very good coach. Better at X's and O's than he's been given credit for. However, I don't see him going up well against Beilein.
His first 5 years, I think he was great. Last year, not so much. I'm hoping the next coach is able to play freshman more. Buzz was very successful with experienced talent. People mentioned Martin's lack of recruiting (which has been slightly disproven). I saw somewhere a person posted how he usually does pretty well playing freshman.
I think Buzz made things too complex on defense that most freshman couldn't live up to his expectations to get time. I wouldn't mind a simpler scheme that allows players to pick up on it quicker and develop in the system, rather than riding the bench since they can't learn the defense. See Burton early on and JuJuan.
Spot on.
Seemed like our players played tight with Brent too. Very frustrating.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
Howland can make some pretty interesting talk with recruits discussing all the guys that he's put in the NBA. I would think that would resonate pretty strongly.
I concur. How does that guy even know what Martin says to his players or any recruits? It's a pretty lame comment. He's only saying that because Martin is younger and is assuming Howland is some out of touch old guy. lmao !!!
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
Howland can make some pretty interesting talk with recruits discussing all the guys that he's put in the NBA. I would think that would resonate pretty strongly.
Definitely don't disagree with you on this point...although of his guys in the NBA - how many came from UCLA, and how many from Pitt? Recruiting to UCLA is quite the luxury...to land 5 star talent..
He is likely next coach. For the record again, not an impact hire.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 09:30:09 PM
Stunning analysis on the game.... You still haven't explained the drastic differences in the two halves. ....... This forum would be soooo much more interesting if people knew anything about actual basketball.
You are the same guy who said if Buzz was coaching in this game TN would have won. Ever see Buzz's teams get shredded by the 3-ball?? Don't think Michigan would have rained 3's on Buzz coaching TN? Still waiting for you to address TN being Top 20 in Offense and Defensive Efficiency. How does that happen for an entire season with sh$tty coaching? If you want to micro-analyze this Michigan game, and get obssessed over 1 half of basketball - go for it. Knee jerk all you want. I'll trust the data over TN's 35 games that put them 15th in the country defensively. And 17th offensively. Maybe just some blind/dumb luck for them in spite of their coaching, huh??
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 09:36:23 PM
Definitely don't disagree with you on this point...although of his guys in the NBA - how many came from UCLA, and how many from Pitt? Recruiting to UCLA is quite the luxury...to land 5 star talent..
TRUE!
No offense to anyone else, but NERS you know your stuff!!
Who did you have as impact hires? Howland and Smart? I'm on the Martin bandwagon, but wouldn't call him an impact hire. He won't be the super sexy hire that Shaka was. However, I think he can have a lot of success here.
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 09:39:19 PM
You are the same guy who said if Buzz was coaching in this game TN would have won. Ever see Buzz's teams get shredded by the 3-ball?? Don't think Michigan would have rained 3's on Buzz coaching TN? Still waiting for you to address TN being Top 20 in Offense and Defensive Efficiency. How does that happen for an entire season with sh$tty coaching? If you want to micro-analyze this Michigan game, and get obssessed over 1 half of basketball - go for it. Knee jerk all you want. I'll trust the data over TN's 35 games that put them 15th in the country defensively. And 17th offensively. Maybe just some blind/dumb luck for them in spite of their coaching, huh??
Tennessee played in a watered down conference this year so their defensive stats are inflated. If Buzz had a backcourt that was athletic like Tennessee's it'd be a different ballgame. Wayyyyy different. Buzz's teams get shredded because Jake Thomas and Derrick Wilson are slow to the ball. It's not because of his coaching...... sigh.
I had Ben Howland. But I think that ship has sailed. Im on the Martin train simply because I think hes the best AVAILABLE
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
Tennessee played in a watered down conference this year so their defensive stats are inflated. If Buzz had a backcourt that was athletic like Tennessee's it'd be a different ballgame. Wayyyyy different. Buzz's teams get shredded because Jake Thomas and Derrick Wilson are slow to the ball. It's not because of his coaching...... sigh.
I'm new to basketball.....so Jake and DWil sub themselves into the game?
Quote from: Ners on March 28, 2014, 09:36:23 PM
Definitely don't disagree with you on this point...although of his guys in the NBA - how many came from UCLA, and how many from Pitt? Recruiting to UCLA is quite the luxury...to land 5 star talent..
Players Howland recruited to Pitt that played in the association:
Brandon Knight
Aaron Gray
Chris Taft
But keep in mind, Pitt was a disaster when Howland arrived. Hard to get elite talent to a program that hasn't been to the tourney for six years.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
Tennessee played in a watered down conference this year so their defensive stats are inflated. If Buzz had a backcourt that was athletic like Tennessee's it'd be a different ballgame. Wayyyyy different. Buzz's teams get shredded because Jake Thomas and Derrick Wilson are slow to the ball. It's not because of his coaching...... sigh.
Man you are lost in the sauce. Brent wouldve got blown out simply because he dont play his best players. He wouldve had that athletic backcourt on the bench.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
Players Howland recruited to Pitt that played in the association:
Brandon Knight
Aaron Gray
Chris Taft
But keep in mind, Pitt was a disaster when Howland arrived. Hard to get elite talent to a program that hasn't been to the tourney for six years.
You mean BREVIN knight?
Brevin, the Anthony Mason lookalike, went to Stanford I think.
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:51:49 PM
You mean BREVIN knight?
No, I mean Brandin.
Brevin is his brother.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2014, 09:55:42 PM
No, I mean Brandin.
Brevin in his brother.
Pakuni right and he was one hell of a player.
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/knight_brandin01.html
Quote from: nyg on March 28, 2014, 09:56:55 PM
Pakuni right and he was one hell of a player.
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/knight_brandin01.html
Aw yea. He was pretty good
Quote from: drewm88 on March 28, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
CBB, you've posted this in other threads as well. Are you saying Painter's on the hot seat, and Martin might bolt for his alma mater when it happens? Otherwise, I don't understand the relevance.
I think finishing dead last in the Big Ten isn't a good thing...it's not like they lost four 1000 point scorers. Two years in a row missed the dance and actually accepted a CBI bid two years ago....not good.
I would think he needs to make the NIT next year at a minimum
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
Players Howland recruited to Pitt that played in the association:
Brandon Knight
Aaron Gray
Chris Taft
But keep in mind, Pitt was a disaster when Howland arrived. Hard to get elite talent to a program that hasn't been to the tourney for six years.
Oh man, Chris Taft. Remember that dude?
Situationally speaking he's an impact hire - tourney and conf tourney success, SEC head coach switching to Big East and MU - players seem to be on board - diverse
Quote from: keefe on March 28, 2014, 04:29:31 PM
Purdue grad, huh? Aren't you a Boilermaker, too? Or...wait...was that Hoopaloop?
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???
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
Oh man, Chris Taft. Remember that dude?
I couldn't stand watching Aaron Gray.
Quote from: AshyLarry on March 28, 2014, 09:47:40 PM
I'm new to basketball.....so Jake and DWil sub themselves into the game?
Well done. Meanwhile, far more athletic options ride the bench - Dawson and JJJ.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 04:57:03 PM
I wouldn't worry so much about where coaches may or may not go in the future. Let's face it, no matter who MU hires, if that coach is successful, he's probably gone in about five years.
I worry more about 2 years with the way Purdue is playing
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 09:39:42 PM
TRUE!
No offense to anyone else, but NERS you know your stuff!!
Thanks...lots of good posters here...and you join that club!
This guy..Mike Deane's Dark Glasses....not so much. But...I do give him props for a great username and avatar..that is well done..his basketball analysis...while...think he's been pwned here...
Quote from: AshyLarry on March 28, 2014, 09:47:40 PM
I'm new to basketball.....so Jake and DWil sub themselves into the game?
You didn't know that? And yes, they recruited themselves too!
Wow Ners, there's no helping this guy.
Glasses, why don't you take the next couple of plays off and lay low for awhile.